Liverpool Have Officially Sold Out, So Who’s Left?
by CaughtOffside Team on July 16th, 2007Lucas is upset at having his footballing innocence whittled away to… a very whittled thing.
As I’m writing this I’m eating a big plate of chocolate chip pancakes. Taking an already unhealthy breakfast food and adding chocolate is a uniquely American thing - like the Big Mac, or segregation. Another trait strong in Americans is the tendency to root for the underdog. Liverpool, for a variety of reasons, have always been the people’s team, a less-talented side that wins through the kind of working-class determination that resounds throughout the world. People can identify, for instance, with the exuberance of Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher throwing themselves around the pitch for the club they idolised growing up. Mistakes can be overlooked because, well, they tried their best.
Of course, Liverpool have just been purchased by Americans Georges Gillet and Tom Hicks, who honestly don’t know a damn thing about football, except that it makes money. (“Liverpool Redsâ€, anybody?) This is a sad, sad thing for me. Though I don’t support Liverpool, and indeed support Tottenham Hotspur, who have been rumoured to be on the verge of a buyout for a long time now, it always made me feel just a little bit better about the Premiership to know that there was a top side that wasn’t just a sham for the rich to play with. It’s hardly the first instance, of course, with Chelsea and Manchester United already under ownership from foreign businessmen, but Liverpool were holding out as the history-rich exception to the rule.
The purchase of Fernando Torres amid legions of other imports marks an end to the era in which there was something even remotely resembling a “people’s team†in England’s top flight. Liverpool weren’t my second team but it was nice to see someone with true English values doing well - Stevie and Jamie, Anfield and the Kop. But Rafa has been gradually moving the squad in the direction of the modern hodge podge of foreign talent and it’s clear he intends to take it even further with his newly minted owners.
So who are we supposed to half-heartedly root for in secret? With 34 million pounds spent already this off-season, it can’t be Spurs. With the amount of jackassery surrounding their last six months, it can’t be West Ham. And with Newcastle doing whatever it is Newcastle normally do, it can’t be them either. Everton are probably our best bet, but in picking up the English footballing spirit they’ve also taken on the mediocrity that comes with it.
What I realized writing this, though, is that there really isn’t room for a people’s team in the Premiership now. With the amount of money coming in, there really won’t be a time when you can look at a team and respect them for playing the right way in the face of financial and talent inequalities. What does the average person have to say about Ashley Cole publishing a book strictly, it seemed, to bitch about money? Or Frank “It’s not about the money†Lampard holding out over an already ridiculous amount of cash? Or, indeed, anything Kieron Dyer has done in the last five years?
I guess in the end you have to not think about it. Simply watch the game because you love it and want to be entertained, and try not to consider that maybe half the players don’t care nearly as much as you do whether they win or lose, because they’re going home to a mansion after the game, and some wannabe model will fellate them just because they’re famous? (Why oh why didn’t I train harder!?)
The sun will rise, the sun will set, and watching football will get more and more depressing.



Simon - July 16th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
It is very sad, I also rooted for Liverpool out of all the english sides in the CL these past few years despite being a Blackburn supporter. But if this year’s side features the same galaxy of overrated stars as CHelsea and United, i’ll be putting on mhy AC Milan kit
Roversforthecup - July 16th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
Yeah Liverpool were the only club left. It’s a shame really. AC Milan kit? Where’s the money for the Rovers kit going? Joking
Daniel - July 16th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Don’t be daft, Simon. AC Milan? You having a laugh. You wanna stick to purity, go support teams in the lower leagues. As if AC Milan aren’t tainted, and with much worse too.
Dave - July 16th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
It may look like a ’sell out’ but football now is not the same as when we won the league every year, the only way forward is to go for foreign investment. Either that or fall further behind. As long as its done in the right manner it can only be a good thing not just for the club but for the entire city of Liverpool.
Fivelamps - July 16th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Oh gee wizz gosh…..oh you college kids..’Tottenham’ and ‘Blackburn’supporters who root for good ol ‘Liverpool’…stick to homework and the NPL guys…your woeful lack of knowledge is just gobsmacking - ‘Peoples game’? It hasn’t been that for 10 years or more..
ollick - July 16th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Carragher was a blue growing up, the rest of what you’ve said is neither new nor interesting.
Monsterlfc - July 16th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
everton? ha, a bitter club supported by mongrels.
Brian Hall - July 16th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Being a Liverpool fan, I know that it hurts at some point, but the thing is, if this takeover didn’t happen, the club would never win the League title or even come close! … The rise of the Premier League since its bow in 1992 have made clubs become more and more richer, just this summer Sunderland and Fulham have spent nearly 10 million quids already, so what about the supposedly big four. Arsenal are way out of it in the market. Though as you stated the soul might not be there, but fans and supporters bring that soul back by themselves, I might be wrong, but it’s not all doom and gloom, not all players like to go back to their mansions, and not everything is wrong, something’s gotta be right so we can cheer on… YNWA
Austin - July 16th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
I don’t think they’ve sold out, it’s not like they’ve started to bring in every recognizable star you can name who has featured in an Adidas commercial a la Chelski. They may in future do that, it’s hard to say, but the attitude of Rafa and the team is still one that values hard work over flair and a devotion to the team and its history. They brought in Torres because he was only willing to leave Atletico for Liverpool, same with Benayoun (who’s hardly a Galactico) and Babel is young and has loads of potential, but can’t be called a star by any stretch of the imagination. The lack of English players is worrisome, but the reserve squad is filled with ‘em, so maybe in five years there will be a greater English presence.
As a Liverpool fan, I hate to defend Man U, but I think for the time being, they are still a side that can be supported for more than just their attacking style and their glamorous names. At base they’re a side with a British core who’ve been put together over the last decade in a way that’s emphasized their organization from the top to the bottom. They’ve brought in and stuck with a number of academy players even when they might have been better advised to have bought abroad. I think once the era of Carlos Quieroz gets into full swing (as it’s already begun,) they may go the way of Chelsea. I somehow doubt it though. They’ll spend big, but on young talent, not galacticos.
Phil McThomas - July 16th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
It’s got to be the Boro, hasn’t it?
Chairman Steve Gibson is a local businessman made good, who refused to sell out to the stock market. I’m pretty sure that Boro will be the last club to change hands.
If you choose to strike Boro on the grounds of mediocrity, you may have a point. However, they do have the occasional jaunt to the League Cup or even the UEFA Cup final.
BigNutz - Liverpool Fan - July 16th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
being a proud liverpool fan from malaysia, i have to say dat dis article does make a lot of sense…however, i dun really blame whoever involved in da takeover for da takeover itself… initialy, i din like da idea of a takeover but with chelsea n man u n several other teams as well having money pumped in, i guess da only way 2 move forward is da one dat saddened me…u wudnt expect igor biscan 2 go against lampard/ballack/scholes…or imagine troure against henry(whn he was in arsenal)…very good write up tho…not takin anythin away frm it… cheers…
Josh - July 16th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Nicely written mate. I’m not here to have a go at you or anything, but I’m a Liverpool fan from Liverpool and I enjoyed reading your column. But one point stood out to me, the one about ‘true English values doing well - Stevie and Jamie, Anfield and the Kop’. As a scouser and a Liverpool fan, i see these things as ‘true scouse values’ rather than English. As the banner on the Kop says ‘Were not English. We are Scouse’. I couldn’t care less about England, ask the vast majority of Liverpool fans and they will tell you the same thing.
Bill Vector - July 16th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Mmmm - i had been thinking the same for some time. Unfortunately Liverpool have been forced into this move to keep up - otherwise they would have fallen further and further behind. However, I think Liverpool won a lot of fans over, not only with the passion of the home support and the lack of big spending, but also with their style of football. Before the hideous Murdoch and his big Media Machine took over football and then the Village Idiot with his stolen oil share money came and made the situation about a hundred times worse, Liverpool did win through hard work and brilliant teamwork - you must surely remember the 7-0 at Anfield when your team came up with Ardiles and Villa for the first time. If Rafa can bring back the style to LFC’s play - which is what he has been talking about recently - then maybe in this horrible age of big money and business-led football LFC can once again show the others how it’s done. We;ve had a solid defence and a strong midfield, now we are building towards a more attacking approach. After all one of the best attacks in the world just got crushed 3-0 by Brazil - and why? Because the ageing defence of Zanetti, Ayala and Heinze (for LIverpool? don’t make me laugh - once a Manc, forever tainted) and G Milito (younger, but not up-to-scratch, once again, not for Liverpool) just couldn’t stop a good attack. It’s all in place now as long as the 3 new signings are as good as they would appear - all we lack is one more top quality centre-back as cover. Don’t give up on us yet Blackburn and Spurs fans… the future is bright, not Murdoch shite
Satpal - July 16th, 2007 at 4:26 pm
Although Spurs do well in capturing young english talent, they dont seem to win anything in their careers. I know for a fact that, if we (Liverpool FC) went for any of the names you went for like Dawson, Routledge, Lennon etc, the price would have hit the roof.
There will never be a day when a top flight english team will field an English 11, especially when you see players like Bent being purchased for £17million, Walcott for £12million. English players prices are inflated.
It is a business nowadays, and the only way to compete is to invest.
jono - July 16th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
nice article reds still peoples club though
BobbyBoy - July 16th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
“… the people’s team, a less-talented side that wins through the kind of working-class determination that resounds throughout the world.”
Liverpool were considered a “people’s team” long before they could be considered “less-talented”. Not to go too far back but even the days of Rush, Barnes, Aldridge, Beardsley and co. You think they could be considered “less-talented”?!!
Barnes was a record breaking signing. Dalglish was a record breaking signing. This did not stop Liverpool from being people’s team then and it will not now.
That’s because it’s not the fact that the players or owners were English that made them a people’s team.
Liverpool are a people’s team because of the passion of their supporters, the passion of those that run the day-to-day business of the club (not just those at the very top) and the passion and love for the game that all of that therefore DEMANDS of the players! That is why they will remain a people’s team in spite of the new found wealth and the foreign ownership.
blah - July 16th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
im a liverpool fan, and i think they are english values, i moved from liverpool when i was fairly young to the south and still have the same values, not because i’m scouse because i’m english, outside of liverpool there are people with these values
Strange But True - July 16th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
[quote comment=”51158″]Nicely written mate. I’m not here to have a go at you or anything, but I’m a Liverpool fan from Liverpool and I enjoyed reading your column. But one point stood out to me, the one about ‘true English values doing well - Stevie and Jamie, Anfield and the Kop’. As a scouser and a Liverpool fan, i see these things as ‘true scouse values’ rather than English. As the banner on the Kop says ‘Were not English. We are Scouse’. I couldn’t care less about England, ask the vast majority of Liverpool fans and they will tell you the same thing.[/quote]
If you had said ‘Scousers’ I would have agreed with you, but the vast majority of LFC fans do NOT come from Liverpool. LFC is a worldwide club with followers everywhere. The next time Stevie G scores for his national team I expect you not to care…..
blah - July 16th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
>>>
Bill Vector - July 16th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
We’ve never identified with the vast majority of English people - there’s a hell of a lot wrong with England.
Alex Ferguson - July 16th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Soon all Premiership clubs will be owned by millionaires which in my view is a good thing,this is were all the worlds top players would like to ply their trade, to the benefit of the supporters and up and coming players. I cant wait for the season to start. If you want to watch the peoples club then go to the Championship, were clubs who fail to find investment are sure to be found.
word - July 16th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
well as you are basing most of this on finances then wavering the lack of englishness you have to hand it to arsenal. despite the huge current debts they strongly evaded the american takeover because they know they can do the job STANDING ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET and didn’t jump at the chance like most others to take the easy option and buy success with tens and tens and tens and tens of millions of pounds. we spent pennys last year in comparison and walked joint 3rd place. not only can we get results we play some of the most attractive footie in the world.
after all that burnt money (babel-13m vs rigters-350k - complete joke) who can respect liverpool when they fail to beat the budget club with a bankload of class -arsenal. i am supremely confident liverpool will not finish above us this year but prepeared to humbly eat my words
money doesn’t buy class people, wenger will ruin any club in the world on his day with less money spent than two chelsea players - who else can claim that?
Bill Vector - July 16th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
good luuck word - wenger has done a great job without spending much - although the africans via the belgian feeder club was a little bit naughty. That aside, great manager, great team - and deserved to win more - i have a lot of respect for the arse - though i hope you will be humbly eating those words
Biscan - July 16th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
Oh for heaven’s sake.
Net spending of £26 million is only £6M above Liverpool’s typical summer spend.
Even teh Manchester Buccaneer’s spend this summer is merely ‘quite large’ when you consider they spent practically nothing last year.
The sky is not falling.
As for why less homegrown players make it through, that’s simple. The academies are shit. As soon as the FA realise that, and stop overregulating the nation’s youth out of a their first team chances, we can get back to producing Owen, Gerrard, Scholes, Carragher, Giggs et al.
Anon - July 16th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
Haha this made me laugh for many reasons, not least because of the fact that Spurs have easily spent more money NET over the past 2 seasons than Liverpool have.
Who is the sell out then chump?
Rushback - July 16th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
Fair article, but it’s been coming for a long time has this. No finacial muscle means mediocre squads equals low standings, unhappy fans and eventually an article asking why the once great Liverpool are now considered a mid table team.
Anon - July 16th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
And the Arsenal fan comparing Rigters to Babel, go watch some Dutch footy and you will see the reason in the difference in price. Also, Liverpool have finished above Arsenal the last 2 years, so everything you say is just void. I am sure you have been standing on your own two feet while spending £10 mil + on Reyes, Walcott, Henry, Wiltord etc.
russel - July 16th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
I would agree with everyone about the money and the whole “selling your soul to the devil”. I loved being able to dig at Chelsea supporters for buying their silverwear.
First point: It’s a case of do you want to be left behind? If liverpool wanted to get back with the likes of Man U and Chelsea, they had to get investment for the future and present. Unfortunately football in general has sold it’s soul to the devil. If you want to survive you have to change with the times and I think that’s what you have to remember. I would say the same for other teams in the premiership as well.
Second point: I think Liverpool and Man Utd deserve a little bit of slack compared to chelsea. One man has brought Chelsea success..abro!
Football is no longer about football…this is the problem we face. Don’t blame the football clubs (except chelsea lol) blame the people making money from football.
Conor Purcell - July 16th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
[quote comment=”51166″][quote comment=”51158″]Nicely written mate. I’m not here to have a go at you or anything, but I’m a Liverpool fan from Liverpool and I enjoyed reading your column. But one point stood out to me, the one about ‘true English values doing well - Stevie and Jamie, Anfield and the Kop’. As a scouser and a Liverpool fan, i see these things as ‘true scouse values’ rather than English. As the banner on the Kop says ‘Were not English. We are Scouse’. I couldn’t care less about England, ask the vast majority of Liverpool fans and they will tell you the same thing.[/quote]
If you had said ‘Scousers’ I would have agreed with you, but the vast majority of LFC fans do NOT come from Liverpool. LFC is a worldwide club with followers everywhere. The next time Stevie G scores for his national team I expect you not to care…..[/quote]
Totally agree with the comment above. I live in somerset and there all mancs and liverpool fans. Ive been too liverpool and from what i saw there all everton fans. i even saw a lot of tramere fans!
Anonymous - July 16th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
That was, genuinely, a horrible article.
Simon - July 16th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
[quote comment=”51192″]That was, genuinely, a horrible article.[/quote]
mate on this site its not always about the article, theyre meant to be discussion starters and we got some good discusison. read the article and the comments
Yogi - July 16th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
[quote comment=”51184″]Fair article, but it’s been coming for a long time has this. No finacial muscle means mediocre squads equals low standings, unhappy fans and eventually an article asking why the once great Liverpool are now considered a mid table team.[/quote]
Mid Table club GROW UP, 2 Champions League finals in 3 years, you have to be top 4 to be in the Champions League (Unless you win it) 20 clubs and3rd place is mid table? Mid table numpty starts at 7th or 8th.
Steel Billy - July 16th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
I liked the part
[quote comment=”51151″]everton? ha, a bitter club supported by mongrels.[/quote]
Quote of the century !
Austin - July 16th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
[quote comment=”51176″]well as you are basing most of this on finances then wavering the lack of englishness you have to hand it to arsenal. despite the huge current debts they strongly evaded the american takeover because they know they can do the job STANDING ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET and didn’t jump at the chance like most others to take the easy option and buy success with tens and tens and tens and tens of millions of pounds. we spent pennys last year in comparison and walked joint 3rd place. not only can we get results we play some of the most attractive footie in the world.
[/quote]
Right, so then what’s going on at Arsenal with Stan Kroenke isn’t a buyout, it’s just some friendly financial help from across the pond? You’ll be bought in less than a year, Wenger will be in Spain, and you’ll still be behind the top 3, playing pretty but failing to score goals. Arsenal has become the most pathetic club in the prem.
carlos - July 16th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Why did I waste my time reading this completely pointless article? Now I’m wasting even more time commenting on it. Tosh.
Alan - July 16th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Hey Guys, thats football, its all a business now, but if Liverpool win the league over the next 3 years or so, will any Liverpool fan complain, hell no!!
Rushback - July 16th, 2007 at 11:31 pm
YOGI you pranny, read what I said again, stuff it, i’ll explain…sod it, I can’t be bothered
Anonymous - July 16th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
[quote comment=”51188″][quote comment=”51166″][quote comment=”51158″]Nicely written mate. I’m not here to have a go at you or anything, but I’m a Liverpool fan from Liverpool and I enjoyed reading your column. But one point stood out to me, the one about ‘true English values doing well - Stevie and Jamie, Anfield and the Kop’. As a scouser and a Liverpool fan, i see these things as ‘true scouse values’ rather than English. As the banner on the Kop says ‘Were not English. We are Scouse’. I couldn’t care less about England, ask the vast majority of Liverpool fans and they will tell you the same thing.[/quote]
If you had said ‘Scousers’ I would have agreed with you, but the vast majority of LFC fans do NOT come from Liverpool. LFC is a worldwide club with followers everywhere. The next time Stevie G scores for his national team I expect you not to care…..[/quote]
Totally agree with the comment above. I live in somerset and there all mancs and liverpool fans. Ive been too liverpool and from what i saw there all everton fans. i even saw a lot of tramere fans![/quote]
but your not from Liverpool, and i am, so i consider myself to have a bit more inside knowledge than yourself.
Anonymous - July 16th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
[quote comment=”51166″][quote comment=”51158″]Nicely written mate. I’m not here to have a go at you or anything, but I’m a Liverpool fan from Liverpool and I enjoyed reading your column. But one point stood out to me, the one about ‘true English values doing well - Stevie and Jamie, Anfield and the Kop’. As a scouser and a Liverpool fan, i see these things as ‘true scouse values’ rather than English. As the banner on the Kop says ‘Were not English. We are Scouse’. I couldn’t care less about England, ask the vast majority of Liverpool fans and they will tell you the same thing.[/quote]
If you had said ‘Scousers’ I would have agreed with you, but the vast majority of LFC fans do NOT come from Liverpool. LFC is a worldwide club with followers everywhere. The next time Stevie G scores for his national team I expect you not to care…..[/quote]
My mistake, i actually did mean scousers, but if your going to support the club you should adopt the values, and that is club not country. At all, whether gerrard scores for england or not, thats why Carra has been given so much support in the city over thinking about quiting England.
Gerry Beckett - July 17th, 2007 at 10:55 am
[quote comment=”51188″][quote comment=”51166″][quote comment=”51158″]Nicely written mate. I’m not here to have a go at you or anything, but I’m a Liverpool fan from Liverpool and I enjoyed reading your column. But one point stood out to me, the one about ‘true English values doing well - Stevie and Jamie, Anfield and the Kop’. As a scouser and a Liverpool fan, i see these things as ‘true scouse values’ rather than English. As the banner on the Kop says ‘Were not English. We are Scouse’. I couldn’t care less about England, ask the vast majority of Liverpool fans and they will tell you the same thing.[/quote]
If you had said ‘Scousers’ I would have agreed with you, but the vast majority of LFC fans do NOT come from Liverpool. LFC is a worldwide club with followers everywhere. The next time Stevie G scores for his national team I expect you not to care…..[/quote]
Totally agree with the comment above. I live in somerset and there all mancs and liverpool fans. Ive been too liverpool and from what i saw there all everton fans. i even saw a lot of tramere fans![/quote]
I have never read such ill-informed rubbish in all my life. Liverpool is dominated by REDS fans you tossers. Where did the 3/4 million people who lined the streets come from? Hey, Mr Somerset, f8ck off, you plastic supporter. We don’t want you near OUR club. ps Buy yourself some glasses and take a quick glance in Liverpool. You may discover the truth, not some half-baked lie bandied around by Evertons, bitter with jealousy. As for selling out, go f*ck yourselves. Liverpool are the greatest club in The World and indeeed the most succesful club in Britain, ever ! We are also one of the 3 most successful clubs in Europe, ever ! We have appeared in more European Cup Finlas than all of the other British teams put together, supported as always by legions of Scouser REDS. Go and swallow some facts you plastic w*nkers.
Scouse Billy - July 17th, 2007 at 11:09 am
Gerry Beckett - you said it all, brilliant!
YNWA
Shocked - July 17th, 2007 at 11:09 am
Firstly, as a Liverpool fan from Liverpool, i admit it is sad that teams are looking to foreign investment to go to the next level, but it now necessary for success.
I’d rather it be kept English but hey, i support the club and the team, not the money men and owners, the club will be here long after them.
A lot of people have written some pretty good responses, some have been well ignorant though, from people who know little of Liverpool.
As for the guy preaching about good old English arsenal fighting against the big boys, what a load of sh!t mate. Arsenal, the team that had less english players than real madrid in 2004. Poor Arsenal with no cash…yeah right, 17m on Reyes, 16.5m on Da Silva, 14m on Wilitord, 10m on Walcott. hahaha what a joke
word - July 17th, 2007 at 11:10 am
[quote comment=”51204″][quote comment=”51176″]well as you are basing most of this on finances then wavering the lack of englishness you have to hand it to arsenal. despite the huge current debts they strongly evaded the american takeover because they know they can do the job STANDING ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET and didn’t jump at the chance like most others to take the easy option and buy success with tens and tens and tens and tens of millions of pounds. we spent pennys last year in comparison and walked joint 3rd place. not only can we get results we play some of the most attractive footie in the world.
[/quote]
Right, so then what’s going on at Arsenal with Stan Kroenke isn’t a buyout, it’s just some friendly financial help from across the pond? You’ll be bought in less than a year, Wenger will be in Spain, and you’ll still be behind the top 3, playing pretty but failing to score goals. Arsenal has become the most pathetic club in the prem.[/quote]
i said we apposed the buyout, i didn’t deny it was attempted… that would be completely disillusional. it may even be the right thing to do if david dein is involved again. kreonke on his own would be less neccesary but still quite possible.
you media whores are pathetic, henry leaves at 30 and suddenly arsenal are doooomed like we could actually slip below tottenham. as if wenger is not aware of the problems and couldn’t fix them. what good reason would wenger want to leave 10years worth of infrastructure and investment hes put into arsenal to join a glamour club in the sun… not really his style. he will sign a new contract in the coming weeks i garantee you
my point is any club on a budget (everton, bolton, reading) can still buy clever and do a good job without spending millions. i for one do not want to accept that whoever spends the most money each year wins the league, therefore all clubs should ‘get with the times’ and let money grabbing foreign millionaries take them over. it kinda takes away the sence of acheivement if you do a chelsea doesn’t it?
i definately appreiciate the young gunners talent more when i see them playing better than a 1/4 billion pound chelsea team (even tho we lost-carling cup). isn’t that why footballs great and most neutrals support the underdog? it isn’t all about the trophies
word - July 17th, 2007 at 11:15 am
and to all the others, yeah we spent our own hard earned money not some arabs or russian dirty oil money!!!! bit of a difference
Bitter - July 17th, 2007 at 11:40 am
Football is shit and you’re all cunts
Scouse Billy - July 17th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Bill, did you sort out Setanta?
Josh - July 17th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
Gerry Beckett what a legend. ‘were not english. we are scouse’
mackerr - July 17th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
Im an LFC fan - Yes. Liverpool have sold out. I wish we still had a good strong English team like the old days. Toshack, Dalglish, Souness, Hansen, Grobbelar. Those were the days.
Scouse Billy - July 17th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Yeah you must be right.
Now my club has sold out, think I’ll wander over to Prenton Park.
Bit like I used to think smoking was ok but luckily the government has pointed out that I’m really a child killer.
whats the problem? - July 17th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
the times theyare a’changin….simple as. support your team, not the owner. if any team dont get this invested money, they cannot compete.
Bill Vector - July 17th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
[quote comment=”51271″]Bill, did you sort out Setanta?[/quote]
No - can’t get it.
Scouse Billy - July 17th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
[quote comment=”51350″][quote comment=”51271″]Bill, did you sort out Setanta?[/quote]
No - can’t get it.[/quote]
Aw that is shit - I’m going to sign up now.
Regards to Mark E Smith, btw… enjoy.
Rafa Benitez - July 18th, 2007 at 10:49 am
Ha ha, ze English peoples club was never us, it was always our more illustrious neighbours, the mighty Everton who we couldn’t score a goal against last season. I am here simply to waste this dirty American money on mediocre players and make Liverpool even worse, much like the Everton fans Stevie Gerrard and Jamie Carragher are doing, they have blue blood till they die la
mike - July 18th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
depressing…..if your a spurs fan yeah.
get real no LFC fan is complaining just like man utd fans and chelsea fans and spurs fans if you get investment then actually WIN something, you cant live off past history and values in 2007 !!!
…or else you win nowt !!
mike - July 18th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
[quote comment=”51448″]Ha ha, ze English peoples club was never us, it was always our more illustrious neighbours, the mighty Everton who we couldn’t score a goal against last season. I am here simply to waste this dirty American money on mediocre players and make Liverpool even worse, much like the Everton fans Stevie Gerrard and Jamie Carragher are doing, they have blue blood till they die la[/quote]
…..if your not into football…. why type this…? take up golf and let football fans do the talking.
thankyou.
mal - July 18th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
“it always made me feel just a little bit better about the Premiership to know that there was a top side that wasn’t just a sham for the rich to play with. It’s hardly the first instance, of course, with Chelsea and Manchester United already under ownership from foreign businessmen, but Liverpool were holding out as the history-rich exception to the rule.”
that would be the Liverpool that were bankrolled by the Littlewoods Pools empire giving them an Abramovich style advantage in an are of clubs owned by smalltime shopowning businessmen? The redscouse bought their success every bit as much as Man Utd or Arsenal did and Chelsea are doing now. If you want some local colour look at ‘Boro or Villa whose squads have several youth products after academy success in the FA Youth cup over several seasons. Or you could carry on peddling the redscouse myths…
p - July 30th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
[quote comment=”51246″][quote comment=”51188″][quote comment=”51166″][quote comment=”51158″]Nicely written mate. I’m not here to have a go at you or anything, but I’m a Liverpool fan from Liverpool and I enjoyed reading your column. But one point stood out to me, the one about ‘true English values doing well - Stevie and Jamie, Anfield and the Kop’. As a scouser and a Liverpool fan, i see these things as ‘true scouse values’ rather than English. As the banner on the Kop says ‘Were not English. We are Scouse’. I couldn’t care less about England, ask the vast majority of Liverpool fans and they will tell you the same thing.[/quote]
If you had said ‘Scousers’ I would have agreed with you, but the vast majority of LFC fans do NOT come from Liverpool. LFC is a worldwide club with followers everywhere. The next time Stevie G scores for his national team I expect you not to care…..[/quote]
Totally agree with the comment above. I live in somerset and there all mancs and liverpool fans. Ive been too liverpool and from what i saw there all everton fans. i even saw a lot of tramere fans![/quote]
I have never read such ill-informed rubbish in all my life. Liverpool is dominated by REDS fans you tossers. Where did the 3/4 million people who lined the streets come from? Hey, Mr Somerset, f8ck off, you plastic supporter. We don’t want you near OUR club. ps Buy yourself some glasses and take a quick glance in Liverpool. You may discover the truth, not some half-baked lie bandied around by Evertons, bitter with jealousy. As for selling out, go f*ck yourselves. Liverpool are the greatest club in The World and indeeed the most succesful club in Britain, ever ! We are also one of the 3 most successful clubs in Europe, ever ! We have appeared in more European Cup Finlas than all of the other British teams put together, supported as always by legions of Scouser REDS. Go and swallow some facts you plastic w*nkers.[/quote]
majority of fans 3/4 mill seemed to speak with a irish accent for champs league
Nick - September 14th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Just support Reading if yer desperate for an honest ‘people’s club’