Oh Man, England Could Be Screwed
by CaughtOffside Team on August 8th, 2007
Lucas thinks that England’s problems go far beyond whatever fool happens to be in charge.
After watching England at the Euro U-21 Championships, it’s occurred to me after a long while that England are going to have a pretty tough time on the international stage once the “Golden Generation†as it were, gets older. There were a lot of passionate players, for sure, which you love to see in the face of the senior side’s consistently listless performances. Witness Reading striker Leroy Lita’s “kid with Tourette’s Syndrome goes apeshit in a department store†goal celebration - and you know they’re putting a lot of themselves into the game.
What you don’t see, of course, is a whole lot of skill or technique. These young players, far from picking up some flair and variety of play from the increased number of foreign footballers at Premiership clubs, appear to be most comfortable playing the simple “lump the ball up to the striker and see what happens†type of game. So I’m hoping to weed through the squad and identify, or at least make some vague suggestions, as to who might make an impact beyond the U21s.
So, here’s who could realistically expect to earn a significant amount of caps from the senior squad:
Leighton Baines: One of the more underrated players in the Premiership, he’s finally moved out of the obscurity of Wigan for the, ah, bright lights of Everton. He’s excellent of set pieces, and should be listed as Ashley (TOSSER) Cole’s backup, at the very least. Indeed, if Cole continues to have injury problems (it can’t be easy, trying to balance being a top footballer and having that troublesome vagina of his) I would say that Baines should be penciled in at left-back for the Euro 2008 qualifiers.
Mark Noble: The guy is a goddam pit bull in midfield. This is important for England, as the holding midfielders they currently play are either ineffectual (Michael Carrick) or wildly overrated (Owen Hargreaves.) He could be a decent foil for Steven Gerrard, who likes to roam, or Frank Lampard, who can’t find it within himself to move more than twenty yards at a time.
Matt Derbyshire: The Blackburn youngster isn’t really fast, or technically skilled, but he can poach goals, and I don’t really see that from any of the strikers England have been able to rely on for form and fitness recently. An odd inclusion, maybe, but he’s the type of player who will definitely get better with age and experience.
Three players, then, in my opinion, who have the quality to be regulars in the national team. This is something of a depressing fact, as you need eleven to field a full side. The main problem is that there doesn’t seem to be a realistic plan for the U-21 team as a feeder for the senior team. The FA seems to look at it as simply an exhibition squad, and makes no effort to put in any sort of continuity with coaches or tactical setup that would help mold the nations most talented into class players ready for the next level.
It’s easy to see that the same teams are contending in the U-21 tournaments every time around. Italy and the Netherlands, to be specific. These teams have the same coaches for years at a time and attempt to play with a similar style to the senior teams, grooming their best to be the best. The Italians dive and complain, and the Netherlands play stylish passing football, although it should be noted that the Dutch youth squads don’t seem to share the senior team’s propensity for disappointing losses and chronic underachievement.
In the end something must be done- a legitimate strategy must be concocted, as there is no way England can survive on the international stage without a viable feeder program for the main squad.
And ‘hoofing it up to the big man’ doesn’t count.


Scruffy Beard - August 8th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
spot on England’s coaching is by far the worst and it shows all the way to the top level. This isnt even just the national team that is hurt but the clubs that those prospects arem eant to represent. If they dont get good coaching at junior england level and junior club level they will end up like Emile Heskey
Anonymous - August 8th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Derbyshire will be an england player within 3 seasons, with Hughes system there are plenty of balls flying into the box and as you said he is a real poaching talent who is in the right place at the right time. Owen will never be healthy and Matty can step in
Blackburn fan
Roversforthecup - August 8th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Yeah spot on. But slow and no technical ability? I think that’s slightly harsh to a player that’s only 21 years old. Like Blackburn Fan said: with Sparky’s great managerial and coaching skills, this lad COULD turn into the next Gary Lineker.
topfourherewecome (westham) - August 8th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Mark Noble is an extremely good player, bearing in mind i’ve seen Lampard, J Cole, Carrick progress through their early 20’s and i’ve gotta say Noble is far better than Lampard and Carrick at the same age. Absolute pitbull as mentioned and capable of chipping in with a few goals. He’ll be one of the hottest properties by the end of the season, and the best part of Mark Noble is the fact he’s loyal and passionate and will stay at West Ham for the rest of his career.
Mike - August 8th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
Im a west ham fan, I like Matt Derbyshire, it’s always nice to see a local lad play for his local team. Thats what we have in Mark Noble. I deffinately think that things need to change in regards to English football, all of the top 4 clubs go out and buy promising youngsters from abroad, and this is neglecting our own talent. England is a super-power in world football, but we have nothing to show for it. There doesn’t seem to be any discipline in the England team either, Rooney hasn’t scored for England for at least 2 years… so why not drop him? Unfortunately the way our national team seems to work is that if your a superstar for you’re club you walk straight into the England team, but no matter how good or bad you are for England your name gets you on the team sheet. Do I see this as being likely to change in the future? No chance, Im afriad the big clubs now have foreign idea’s… and what that means for the youth academies is that very soon it will be rare for them to have young English players in them, meaning nothing will get produced. Action has to be taken, there should be some sort of rule introduced where you can only have 3 foreign players in your youth academy at one time, thats the only way it’ll change.
Evil Neil - August 8th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
With Beckham returning to the 1st team on the right wing the u 21s could still look a better team with David Bentley in
mark - August 8th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Noble who the hell is he?.. never heard of him
Jim - August 8th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Baines is pure class - a steel for £5m and Everton have really pulled off a coup!
I see him as the new Stuart Pearce - i.e. tonnes of England caps!
Paul - August 8th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Interesting points but I feel you have missed out the player with the most potential. At 19 years old James Vaughan was the youngest player in the squad and, despite only playing for seven minutes, has an extremely promising future ahead of him (if he can ever stay injury free!) He is already the youngest goal scorer in Premier League history and has looked a class act when he has turned out for the Everton first team. He capped a magnificent all round performance by scoring against Chelsea on the last day of last season in a game that should have (bar two atrocious refereeing decisions) been the first victory at Stamford Bridge for an away team for more that two years. He will be a much better player than Derbyshire.
Also, am I mistaken in thinking that England were just a kick away from the final in this tournament? They may not have played the prettiest football but were a damn sight more successful than the senior England team have been for the last 10 years.
Anonymous - August 8th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
[quote comment=”54542″]Noble who the hell is he?.. never heard of him[/quote]
and you call yourself a football fan!
Evertonman - August 8th, 2007 at 8:14 pm
[quote comment=”54551″]Interesting points but I feel you have missed out the player with the most potential. At 19 years old James Vaughan was the youngest player in the squad and, despite only playing for seven minutes, has an extremely promising future ahead of him (if he can ever stay injury free!) He is already the youngest goal scorer in Premier League history and has looked a class act when he has turned out for the Everton first team. He capped a magnificent all round performance by scoring against Chelsea on the last day of last season in a game that should have (bar two atrocious refereeing decisions) been the first victory at Stamford Bridge for an away team for more that two years. He will be a much better player than Derbyshire.
Also, am I mistaken in thinking that England were just a kick away from the final in this tournament? They may not have played the prettiest football but were a damn sight more successful than the senior England team have been for the last 10 years.[/quote]
Here Here….I agree!
Dan M - August 8th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Mark Noble: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tkzATSFJjuU check out the third goal.
Mr Immolation - August 8th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Yeah, don’t expect much progress to be made with the youngsters while the England manager is more concerned with attending Arsenal vs Manchester United than actually watching the likes of Baines or Warnock.
Mark - August 8th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
[quote comment=”54542″]Noble who the hell is he?.. never heard of him[/quote]
I think he came on here from a cricket website. He has obviuosly never watched English football.
Rover_til_i_die - August 9th, 2007 at 6:48 am
[quote comment=”54539″]With Beckham returning to the 1st team on the right wing the u 21s could still look a better team with David Bentley in[/quote]
Bentley is no longer elligible for the U21s, seeing as he’s nearly 24!
But I’m glad the OP admitted the U21s is an exhibition team, now maybe you will lay off Bents for not joining them….
fg - August 9th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
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bob - December 12th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
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