If Martin Jol Leaves Tottenham For Ajax Then Everybody Wins
October 9, 2007
Mr. C ponders an opportunity for a clean break.
In the space of 5 weeks, the Tottenham Chairman has gone from hero to zero and why some of us had always had doubts of the man’s credentials it looks like he is finally going to be let off the hook and from the most unlikely of sources.
Nobody was hurt more than Dan Levy when Frank Arnesen defected to Chelsea and quite rightly so took them to the cleaners with a £8m settlement. Martin Jol also felt let down by Arnesen as he had a few weeks previous persuaded him to ignore the overtures of the Ajax job to stay and finish the job…isn’t it kind of ironic that these three clubs could be involved again in a merry go round which will see Henk Ten Cate move on to Chelsea, Jol finally being put out of his misery by taking the Ajax job and Levy will be relieved that he doesn’t have to fork out in excess of £6m to get rid of a man clearly has no faith in.
It is the ultimate win, win situation for all parties, with Jol leaving with dignity and the Spurs board saving a shed load of cash. As Spurs fan I don’t think I would ever be in a position where I would want to thank Chelsea for what in my opinion will be saving Tottenham’s season.
After a disastrous start to the season which has only seen three victories in all competitions and an appalling result in Cyprus it is clear that Jol is a dead man walking. There is this great myth that is obviously coming out of the Dutchman’s PR machine that the players are all behind the man…is it just coincidence that the only players backing the manager in the press are the ones who lets face it can only be described as his favourites in Paul Robinson, Jermain Jenas and Robbie Keane.
All three players have had atrocious start to the season especially Robinson and Jenas but even after his brace against Liverpool he is primarily in the team because he is captain which adds an unfair factor into our four striker rotation. The reaction of the players when Jermain got his first goal against the Cypriots was a big two fingers up at Jol and you can tell in his face he didn’t like it.
It is clear for all Spurs fans that there could be light at the end of this tunnel and we may salvage something from this season. It will benefit all parties involved and Jol will finally get the chance in a poor league to maybe reach a CL place. Mr Levy you’re a very lucky man.
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You say Jol leaving now would be best for all concerned but how would it best for Spurs? You fail to mention who we would get to replace him?
As for just 3 players supporting him, Bent, Bale, Berbatov, Kaboul and Defoe have all made statements of support to Jol. And as for Robinson, Keane and Jenas having been “atrocious”, Jenas has hardly played but, as ever, been mostly effective, at times sloppy but made a scapegoat for things that aren’t his fault and Keane has scored 6 in 6 games, hardly atrocious! 6 games, which I might add, Spurs haven’t been beaten in. 4 draws is not great by any means in that time but it’s finally drawn a line under the poor start, they’ve shown signs of confidence and with a run of games between now and the new year that see us play none of the top 4, a good draw in the Carling Cup and a winnable UEFA Cup Group you want the club to descend back into managerless chaos again? You don’t come from 4-1 behind to get a draw if the players don’t back the manager, nor do you go to Anfield and Bolton and battle for draws if the manager has lost the dressing room. He clearly hasn’t. What the team needs for the next few months is stability. The end of the season is the time for Jol to move on, providing a better replacement is lined up.
I Agree with the above! Whoever wrote this article is a T**T!
I’d echo what Steve says; how is leaving Spurs leaderless a ‘win’? How was the result in Cyprus “apalling” considering we fielded a largely B-team and won the two legs 7-2 on aggregate - I’d call that emphatic.
Yep, I’m with Steve.
Yet another pointless Spurs bashing article! You are probably the moron that sat behind me at the Villa game (thats if you actually do watch Spurs at all) banging on that you hoped we wouldn’t get anything out of the game because it may actually save Jol’s job!!!
All I ever hear (apart from all 90% of us that sing Jols name) is you want him out etc. When will anyone actually come up with a world class and more importantly realistic replacement????
Dont bitch about problems if you dont have a viable solution.
i agree with the above we need jol now we are getting some result’s must stay to the end of season when he will get Holland job
we should all get behind jol and the team
Agree with all comments.
Though have to say that if Jol leaves then fair play to him. The board have been particularly cack-handed in dealing with this issue. Jol deserves respect and if he moved on to this job, he could go with his head held high. Much as I’d hate to lose him, he’s been treated ridiculously badly this term.
Added to this who would we replace him with? Ramos will head for higher pastures next season when he’s more bankable, Mourinho will do likewise. I can’t see Hughes swapping what he’s got at Blackburn for the maelstorm at White Hart Lane. At least he has autonomy, rather than a jumped up Director of Football who seemingly couldn’t spot talent if it spanked his arse. I can’t see any decent manager being available, and certainly wouldn’t want “‘Appy ‘Arry’s Wheeler ‘N Dealers Inc” in town, especially with the threat of his son as coach….
“we fielded a largely B-team”
We had robbo, dawson, Lee, hudd, zokorra, malbranque,defoe and our 16.5m super sub bent.
Hardly a “B team” ok the players did not want to get injured b4 the liverpool game but we were playing a bunch of plumbers.
We need to pick our best team and stick with it, unfortunatly we our playing a keeper that is totally out of confidence and form, he needs to be dropped, cerny’s moral must be rock bottom, he needs to be given games so robbo can concentrate on getting back to his best and losing some of that flab.
Also our defense is sh*t we our doomed unless jol deals with these problems. IF he knows how.
+1 to the comments on this pathetic article. It makes no sense to sack Jol now, especially without a valid replacement. It would send a clear message to any potential manager that the Spurs board panics if Spurs have a run of a few bad games, and would in all likelihood sack you unless we’re at the top of the league from the word go. Yes, this is a shitty start to the league campaign but things look like they’re turning. If we’re still in the bottom half after Xmas then yes, get another coach. For me, a bigger capacity stadium is a more important issue.
Jol is a decent chap but not the right calibre of manager to take us to the enxt level, that being top4 or actually winning a cup.
offload him asap, i’d rather see clive allen as a caretaker till the end of the season than more of jols shambles
Palace have just sacked Peter Taylor. Why don’t we get him zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote comment=”68290″]I’d echo what Steve says; how is leaving Spurs leaderless a ‘win’? How was the result in Cyprus “apalling” considering we fielded a largely B-team and won the two legs 7-2 on aggregate - I’d call that emphatic.[/quote]
Letting the team from Cyprus score twice is pretty appaling. And in the second leg it was hardly your B team.
quote comment=”68315″][quote comment=”68290″]I’d echo what Steve says; how is leaving Spurs leaderless a ‘win’? How was the result in Cyprus “apalling” considering we fielded a largely B-team and won the two legs 7-2 on aggregate - I’d call that emphatic.[/quote]
Letting the team from Cyprus score twice is pretty appaling. And in the second leg it was hardly your B team.[/quote]
Blackburn and Everton conceded more against teams just as bad.
We conceded goals at 5-0 and 6-1 on aggregate in the tie.
When the game was alive they never came close to scoring.
To criticize the concession of those 2 goals is ridiculous and pointless.
You’re all a bunch of cunts!
Happy hunting in the championship next year……..hahahahaha
[quote comment=”68320″]quote comment=”68315″][quote comment=”68290″]I’d echo what Steve says; how is leaving Spurs leaderless a ‘win’? How was the result in Cyprus “apalling” considering we fielded a largely B-team and won the two legs 7-2 on aggregate - I’d call that emphatic.[/quote]
Letting the team from Cyprus score twice is pretty appaling. And in the second leg it was hardly your B team.[/quote]
Blackburn and Everton conceded more against teams just as bad.
We conceded goals at 5-0 and 6-1 on aggregate in the tie.
When the game was alive they never came close to scoring.
To criticize the concession of those 2 goals is ridiculous and pointless.[/quote]
Mentioning Evertons and Blackburns results is pointless, what has that got to do with Spurs. Conceding goals is Spuds main problem, your defenders are to worried about how they’ll celebrate their next goal (because you strikers don’t seem to). 1 clean sheet in so far is pretty bad, even worse when you know part timers scored against you.
What a pointless sensless arguement by the kind of fan that typifies the blow in Spurs fans who have been calling for Jols head since the second game of the season. Part of the same fickle group who have simply added to the surmounting pressure on the shoulders of our very young (and undoubtedly talented) squad. Probably one of the lightweight supporters who walked out after we went 4-1 down to Villa (if you have indeed ever been to the ground.
To you and your compatriots who form this group know what it is to be a fan-remember what life as a spurs fan was like before the Dutch took the helm and grow up, get behind your team. Just when things seem desperate and hopeless things will turn around and this bunch of highly talented will start to fit the billing they have been given by most of the intelligent football pundits up and down the country before the season began.
Have a little faith.
COYS
What an absolute load of nonsense this article is! Where is the bloody sense in Jol leaving now? I echo so many of the comments, where and who is the replacement? If anyone it will be a caretaker! Enter Mr Pleat?????? No No No anything but him. Jol must stay until the end of the season when then and only then his position like any other manager should be reviewed! That said i do agree that Jol clearly has his favourites at the club and players such as Robinson,Jenas, Tainio,Zokora and Huddlestone should be dropped! Keep chanting Martin’s name,Keep the faith,we’re spurs and proud!
I would prefer Jol to stay and be given an extended run but if he goes to Ajax the the Spurs board, assuming Ramos et al dont want to take the job then the could do worse than look at George Burley. His sides play attractive football and he has done well in many of his previous jobs
I agree that Jenas is awful. Personally, if I were Jol I would leave. Levy and Comolli are c-u-next-tuesdays
Retard
Its funny to see spuds fans arguing about conceding goals against a pub team in the uefa cup,so far away from qualifying for champions league, so that was your b team. 6mil defoe, 16.5 bent,6mil ghetto kid, 7mil for kaboul, 10mil for bale, that is a very expensive b-team.
Every1 knows the uefa cup is for low rate teams, so have fun spuds.
[quote comment=”68322″]You’re all a bunch of cunts!
Happy hunting in the championship next year……..hahahahaha[/quote]
…Oh dear… This guy puts us all in the shade with his deliciously insightful comments.
I will replace Jol because I am not sure that I want to remain at Sheffield Utd and get them relegated
To all the people who are talking about how wonderful Jol is: have you looked at the table recently?
[quote]remember what life as a spurs fan was like before the Dutch took the helm[/quote]
I don’t remember spending a whole lot of time in SEVENTEENTH place back then. It’s been 30 years since we’ve finished a season as low as we are right now.
Who should we get as a replacement? Someone who can show the team how to mark at set-pieces, preferably. It would also be nice if the new guy could explain to the players that the game lasts 90 minutes, not 88. For some reason, Jol has been unable to get these things through to them.
[quote comment=”68392″]To all the people who are talking about how wonderful Jol is: have you looked at the table recently?
[quote]remember what life as a spurs fan was like before the Dutch took the helm[/quote]
I don’t remember spending a whole lot of time in SEVENTEENTH place back then. It’s been 30 years since we’ve finished a season as low as we are right now.
Who should we get as a replacement? Someone who can show the team how to mark at set-pieces, preferably. It would also be nice if the new guy could explain to the players that the game lasts 90 minutes, not 88. For some reason, Jol has been unable to get these things through to them.[/quote]
spurs are a joke now and you’ve only got three decent players Berba, King and Keane. The rest are championship standard and ya manager would be better of in some mickey mouse league. So much for all your summer talk of “THE BIG FIVE” - you’re in the bottom three more like. hahaha
[quote comment=”68310″]”we fielded a largely B-team”
We had robbo, dawson, Lee, hudd, zokorra, malbranque,defoe and our 16.5m super sub bent.
Hardly a “B team” ok the players did not want to get injured b4 the liverpool game but we were playing a bunch of plumbers.
We need to pick our best team and stick with it, unfortunatly we our playing a keeper that is totally out of confidence and form, he needs to be dropped, cerny’s moral must be rock bottom, he needs to be given games so robbo can concentrate on getting back to his best and losing some of that flab.
Also our defense is sh*t we our doomed unless jol deals with these problems. IF he knows how.[/quote]
BMJ was a defender, of some repute, so he should be able to find a solution to our problems, apart from waiting for Ledley, like he’s some sort of Messiah who will lead us to the promised land.
I was a goal keeper. I played behind defences like SPUR’s. You don’t know whether you’re a keeper or a sweeper. You end up shattered by the worry of how the clowns in front of you are going to deal with things. You never know when to come and when to stay because, even if you shout/call for the ball you never know who’s going to clatter into you or just get in the way.
I think that that’s PR’s great problem. If the ball bounces or skids, awkwardly then you often miss it but if your own team look for all the world like they’re going to deal with the ball and then they just let it past, eg. defensive walls, then what can you do ?? You miss it, they score, you get ballock’d.
How can some chelsea idiot come on this message board and slag off Spurs? Without the russian fairy godmother you tossers would be playing at a shed in front of 6000 retards in league one at very best. I cant wait for Abramovitch to pack his things and go. I reckon they could make a film of it. “LEEDS UNITED 2, SLIDE INTO OBLIVION.”
[quote comment=”68362″]Its funny to see spuds fans arguing about conceding goals against a pub team in the uefa cup,so far away from qualifying for champions league, so that was your b team. 6mil defoe, 16.5 bent,6mil ghetto kid, 7mil for kaboul, 10mil for bale, that is a very expensive b-team.
Every1 knows the uefa cup is for low rate teams, so have fun spuds.[/quote]
Kaboul didn’t play, Bale was on the bench, Keane and Berbatov are first choice, so yes, Bent and Defoe are our B-Team and Boateng hasn’t been in the 16 apart from that day so, yes, he is also our b-team, it’s building a squad.
Check your facts before your gloating, you just look arrogant and gormless.
[quote comment=”68392″]To all the people who are talking about how wonderful Jol is: have you looked at the table recently?
[quote]remember what life as a spurs fan was like before the Dutch took the helm[/quote]
I don’t remember spending a whole lot of time in SEVENTEENTH place back then. It’s been 30 years since we’ve finished a season as low as we are right now.
quote]
It’s been a lot longer than 30 years since the season finished in October as well.
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, is it a deadly sin?
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, waiting for a win
There are a few new signings and a chap called Darren Bent
It seems to be a waste, the money that we spent.
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, with a manager called Martin Jol
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, it tests your very soul
Our stadium, it stinks and it’s not a pretty sight
How come for some many years we’ve been a pile of shite?
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, maybe I should retire
When considering the team’s position, wallowing in the mire
With Berbatoss up the front, his path to goal is clear
But how often does he shoot, and bring the usual ‘oh dear’
Oh to be Tottenham fan, we hate the boys in red.
They often seem to win the league, it does us in the head.
Yet we never seem to improve or learn things from our peers.
‘cos Tottenham Hotspur Football Club have won nothing for f***ing years.
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, do I need to see a shrink?
I only date fat ugly girls, perhaps it’s the dreadful stink
The jealousy, it is so painful and if I had realised sooner
I could’ve been with The Arsenal boys singing ‘Oh to be a Gooner’
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, taking lots of stick.
I’ve nothing to respond with – it really makes me sick.
Rubbish players, rubbish manager and so we leave before the end.
No wonder being a Tottenham fan is sending me round the bend.
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, secretly wishing I was a Manc.
For they buy players willy nilly with the cash they have at bank.
At Tottenham we borrow large and make sure to spend it all
Then discover some weeks later that we’ve pi**ed it up the wall
Oh to be a Tottenham fan ‘cos life is so hum drum
A Carling Cup would do us, any little crumb
Season after season, the players are all the same
It’s a pity they’re all such crap and cannot win a game
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, with shirts all lilly white
Shame the side was so expensive but still a bag of shite
I wish I was a Gooner, then my mates would think me clever
But I have just had to admit that we are ‘the worst fans ever’
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, just how bad can we get?
Now I’m bound to lose 50 notes to Sparkie, wagered in a bet.
‘cos the lilly whites can’t win a game and are the worst team in this town
If Jol doesn’t leave very soon, we’ll sure be going down
Oh to be a Tottenham fan, the crap team in the south,
Boy do I wish I hadn’t been so quick in shooting off my mouth.
Near the foot of the table, terrible in defence and severely off the pace,
In a matter of just a few weeks I’ve got egg all over my face
fat jol