Has Man United, Liverpool and Everton target made the right choice by joining Arsenal?
by stresster on June 10th, 2008
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Some might argue that Theo Walcott hasn’t made a great deal of progress since leaving Southampton for Arsenal, although there are countless examples of Arsene Wenger signing a player and helping them progress into a world-class talent. Take Cesc Fabregas for example, or Kolo Toure. Maybe Thierry Henry instead, or Emmanuel Adebayor. Will Aaron Ramsey be a star of the future, or even next season, after agreeing terms with the Gunners according to the BBC?
Aaron Ramsey has joined Arsenal from FA Cup finalists Cardiff City in a £5m deal, BBC Sport understands.
Champions League winners Manchester United and Premier League giants Everton were also fighting to sign the 17-year-old Welsh wonderkid.
But Ramsey has chosen Arsenal after the Gunners flew him out to Switzerland for face-to-face talks with boss Arsene Wenger, who is at Euro 2008.
Cardiff confirmed that Arsenal was the “best cash offer” for the young star.
Once the midfielder was on that plane, Arsenal moved firmly into the driving seat to sign him, although it remains to be seen as to whether he plays much of a role next season or instead farmed out on loan to glean some Premier League first-team experience.
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Stuart Mitchell - June 10th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Probably the worst choice he could have made.
Everton for me was the best bet, Moyes has a knack of bringing players from lower leagues and making them into prem stars and you cannot argue with Fergusons record of developing young talent.
Better start learning french and getting to know the arsenal reserves.
weller - June 10th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Wrong choice. Everton was the right choice……as it’s the only team he would get anywhere near regular football. No chance with the other three.
He’d better hope they have a good carling cup run!!
thecat - June 10th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Probably gets a bumming once a week from Mr Wenger written into his contract.
Torres - June 10th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
of cours not.
Liverpool were the best.
he would have got good money and he would play much more because liverpool’s only good striker is “el Nino”.
arsenal have van persi, adebyore, teo walcott, eduardo, and are even trying to buy david villa: which all are better than ramsey!!!
Erichero - June 10th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Wenger will teach him tricks he won’t learn elsewhere. It’s not necessarily about the playing chances he will get, but what he can learn and become. While Ferguson pays big money for pre-trained stars, Wenger makes stars. If Wenger can take no name brands and turn them into something, imagine what he can do with known talent.
Matt - June 10th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Bitter jealous Evertonians!
Patrick - June 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Probably the best choice he could have made.
Wenger has a proven track record of turning a young player with potential into world class. He´ll have a lot of mates with the many young English youngsters coming through and if he´s good enough he´ll get games already this season unlike at Man U.
Welcome to Arsenal lad!
Rizal - June 10th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
For a fan base chat, the fans answer will be = Ramsey will only make the right choice if he choose to choose your own supporting teams.
pretty football boy - June 10th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
wot else was he gona do… rot in the stands of old trafford… waste time at everton for them to ‘attempt’ another go at breaking into the top 4. this was probly the best decision hes ever made!! n hopefully one of the best signings wengers ever made. lets see next season.
the futures bright for the goons!!!
PC - June 10th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Bad choice. Can’t see him breaking into Arsenal’s first team anytime soon and certainly not before some of the foreign talent they already have in the squad. Will probably end up another wasted British talent for the next few years. Arsenal have already done it with Bentley, they’re on their way to doing it with Walcott and Chelsea have already wasted a few years of Wright Phillips career.
Still at least they play good football to watch at the Emirates so he won’t be bored in the stands!
Steve - June 10th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I think either of the 4 clubs would have been a good choice, they’re all exciting teams. I hope he blossoms into a great player.
weller - June 10th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Torres……..what you on bout you complete tool…….he’s a midfielder you sack. don’t write anything if you don’t even know what position he plays
RayParlourforPresident - June 10th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
PC - Bentley was shit - you mentioned Reyes being shite on a different post (oddly enough it was the same post only worded differently) obviously not much news around if COS are just recycling the same story it now being the “result” of where Aaron has gone
Reyes was good
Bentley had an attitude problem, the main part of it being he was nowhere near as good as he thought he was, so far as I can see, apart from the fact he can now cross he is exactly the same,
look at the way he has treated Blackburn over the last few weeks, same attitude, same arrogance, same ridiculous unjustified self-belief,
not meaning to shoot you down but using suggesting we failed bentley rather than the other way round I feel slightly vexed by, the guy is an overrated tosser
how exactly have we ruined Walcott’s career?
and how also is that in any way comparable to the hari-kiri SWP took when he moved for the money at Chelsea…?
2D - June 10th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
no its not if he really wants to earn 50p a week
Jens is a legend - June 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Arsenal was a great choice because he will work with some of the best players in the world(fabregas adebayor etc.)
plus he will make a lot of apperances
so all everton, liverpool and man u fans
we got a class player and u didnt
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA……… HA HA HA HA…………….. HA HA HA HA
now all we ave 2 do is sign
samri nasri
david villa
hatem ben arfa
robert green, juusi j or joe hart
Steve - June 10th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
lol @ RPFP, I can’t believe you said Bentley’s self-belief is unjustified. Self-belief is never unjustified.
PC - June 10th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Don’t remember saying that Reyes was shit??? You might have me confused with someone else on that one. Thought he was OK but had an attitude problem.
Completely agree that Bentley has an attitude problem but he’s managed to get his PL and England career back on track by dropping down the league a bit at Blackburn and getting more first team action. Don’t agree that he’s shit though, he’s definitely improved in the past year or so. Fabio seems to think he’s worth a look and so do Liverpool if rumours are to be believed.
I also didn’t say that you had ruined Walcotts career (check the post above). What I said was that young players have wasted valuable time at top four clubs not getting in the team when they could potentially progress quicker if they joined mid table PL clubs and get more first team games under their belts. Then if they realise their potential they can move back up to a top four club.
Just makes more sense to me that a younger player should take that avenue rather than sit on the bench at a big club. SWP might have done much better for his england career if he’d chosen a different club.
I’m not a fan of Bentley but he seems to have made the right career choices so far.
blake - June 10th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
carling cup 4 me but give it when he is 20 ill be getting more regular starts in the premiership.
RayParlourforPresident - June 10th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
it is if you’re Bentley,
you are right though - it was a poor choice of words, mainly because I wrote the post in anger, tends to bring out my malaprop side.
PC - June 10th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Don’t remember saying that Reyes was shit??? You might have me confused with someone else on that one. Thought he was OK but had an attitude problem.
Completely agree that Bentley has an attitude problem but he’s managed to get his PL and England career back on track by dropping down the league a bit at Blackburn and getting more first team action. Don’t agree that he’s shit though, he’s definitely improved in the past year or so. Fabio seems to think he’s worth a look and so do Liverpool if rumours are to be believed.
I also didn’t say that you had ruined Walcotts career (check the post above). What I said was that young players have wasted valuable time at top four clubs not getting in the team when they could potentially progress quicker if they joined mid table PL clubs and get more first team games under their belts. Then if they realise their potential they can move back up to a top four club.
Just makes more sense to me that a younger player should take that avenue rather than sit on the bench at a big club. SWP might have done much better for his england career if he’d chosen a different club.
I’m not a fan of Bentley but he seems to have made the right career choices so far.
PC - June 10th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Don’t remember saying that Reyes was s***??? You might have me confused with someone else on that one. Thought he was OK but had an attitude problem.
Completely agree that Bentley has an attitude problem but he’s managed to get his PL and England career back on track by dropping down the league a bit at Blackburn and getting more first team action. Don’t agree that he’s shit though, he’s definitely improved in the past year or so. Fabio seems to think he’s worth a look and so do Liverpool if rumours are to be believed.
I also didn’t say that you had ruined Walcotts career (check the post above). What I said was that young players have wasted valuable time at top four clubs not getting in the team when they could potentially progress quicker if they joined mid table PL clubs and get more first team games under their belts. Then if they realise their potential they can move back up to a top four club.
Just makes more sense to me that a younger player should take that avenue rather than sit on the bench at a big club. SWP might have done much better for his england career if he’d chosen a different club.
I’m not a fan of Bentley but he seems to have made the right career choices so far.
PC - June 10th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Don’t remember saying that Reyes was shit??? You might have me confused with someone else on that one. Thought he was OK but had an attitude problem.
Completely agree that Bentley has an attitude problem but he’s managed to get his PL and England career back on track by dropping down the league a bit at Blackburn and getting more first team action. Don’t agree that he’s s*** though, he’s definitely improved in the past year or so. Fabio seems to think he’s worth a look and so do Liverpool if rumours are to be believed.
I also didn’t say that you had ruined Walcotts career (check the post above). What I said was that young players have wasted valuable time at top four clubs not getting in the team when they could potentially progress quicker if they joined mid table PL clubs and get more first team games under their belts. Then if they realise their potential they can move back up to a top four club.
Just makes more sense to me that a younger player should take that avenue rather than sit on the bench at a big club. SWP might have done much better for his england career if he’d chosen a different club.
I’m not a fan of Bentley but he seems to have made the right career choices so far.
PC - June 10th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Don’t remember saying that Reyes was s***??? You might have me confused with someone else on that one. Thought he was OK but had an attitude problem.
Completely agree that Bentley has an attitude problem but he’s managed to get his PL and England career back on track by dropping down the league a bit at Blackburn and getting more first team action. Don’t agree that he’s s*** though, he’s definitely improved in the past year or so. Fabio seems to think he’s worth a look and so do Liverpool if rumours are to be believed.
I also didn’t say that you had ruined Walcotts career (check the post above). What I said was that young players have wasted valuable time at top four clubs not getting in the team when they could potentially progress quicker if they joined mid table PL clubs and get more first team games under their belts. Then if they realise their potential they can move back up to a top four club.
Just makes more sense to me that a younger player should take that avenue rather than sit on the bench at a big club. SWP might have done much better for his england career if he’d chosen a different club.
I’m not a fan of Bentley but he seems to have made the right career choices so far.
cambsgooner - June 10th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
the choice if it has been made?is hopefully the one which the player has weighed up all his options and will enhance his reputation etc etc.However he is only 17…………and i will only consider it a done deal when it appears on The Arsenal web site.Also can somebody please explain why ridsdale cant stay out of the media spotlight may he not blight Cardiff as he did at poor old Leeds
Mats - June 10th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
How can anyone say that Arsenal have ruined Bentley and Walcott. Bentley is one of the few English players with top class technical ability, where did he learn that? at Arsenal. He left simply because he lacked patience and wanted to play, there are many worse reasons for leaving a club.
As for Walcott, he is progressing nicely. This season he has started 20 games for and came on as sub in 19, scoring 9 goalsalong the way. Thats not bad for a 19 year old.
Le - June 10th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
French is easier to learn than scouser stuart, didn’t we beat you 4-1?
Le - June 10th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Torres said:
of cours not.
Liverpool were the best.
he would have got good money and he would play much more because liverpool’s only good striker is “el Nino”.
arsenal have van persi, adebyore, teo walcott, eduardo, and are even trying to buy david villa: which all are better than ramsey!!!
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WTF, ramsey ain’t no striker, your making the city of poo look silly again. And to the guy who thinks we are wasting walcott, have you seen his performances in the last 10 games, very consistant, 2yrs and the average roon will be nothing but even fatter.
Jens, we need a CB better than both toure and gallas and a powerful DM also (not song).
Anonymous - June 11th, 2008 at 11:25 am
You’re forgetting that Demento also has an excellent record of throwing young talent on the scrap heap in favour of splashing cash on finished products leaving the Glazers to continue indebting the club. Whereas there have been countless arsenal youngsters who have gone on to forge promising careers elsewhere.
As for Everton, if he’s any good, he’ll stay there for two seasons, Demento will throw some money about and he’d have ended up at United anyway. I love the fact the MEN were saying united had already signed him last week. And you have a go at Madrid for arrogance!
dogmanstar - June 11th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
You’re forgetting that Demento also has an excellent record of throwing young talent on the scrap heap in favour of splashing cash on finished products leaving the Glazers to continue indebting the club
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Otherwise we’d have a first team squad full of youth team players playing attractive football but winning fcuk all - a bit like Arsenal & get your facts right, MEN said we’d agreed a fee with Cardiff subject to agreeing terms with the player. Hardly arrogance you prick, just bad PR.
David Langham - June 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
In his position I would have gone to Everton. Less pressure to perform yet it’s still a top class team. I’ve seen him play on the right but he seems to favor drifting inside… Does that make him a winger or a central midfielder? If he prefers the center hes in for a long wait, just ask Diarra. With Fabregas, DIaby, Gilberto, Denilson he will probably end up being shunted to the wing. He is a winger I suppose but with Wacott comfortable on the right & Hleb maybe leaving he’ll probably be shunted off to the left. Everton really woulld have been a better option.
alan B'stard M P - June 12th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
quote “Erichero”
” While Ferguson pays big money for pre-trained stars, Wenger makes stars.”
Yeah, Wenger makes stars and they bugger off to other clubs. 17 years old. Better off with an older, wiser chap from gunner lower grades
Biscuitbum - October 23rd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Sorry to end this topic, but Theo Walcott has now come on a bundle, and is probably a first-choice pick for England (youngest hat-trick scorer). Aaron Ramsey has just scored for the gunners against Fenebahce in istanbul in the Champions League. Ramsey will quickly learn a lot more by training and sometimes playing with world-class players than he would by remaining at Cardiff or being loaned out to, or signing for, middling teams like Wigan, Bolton or Boro`. The proof of the pudding is as they say……