Andrei Arshavin: perfect for Manchester City but too good for Everton?
by Dexter on June 20th, 2008 115 commentsThe jewel in Russia’s crown made his Euro 2008 debut against Sweden after missing the first two games due to suspension. Arshavin turned in an awesome performance, which has managers across the world drooling over him; and with everyone salivating over the Russian skillster, this BBC journo feels he is too good to be at Goodison…
The BBC’s Phil McNulty uncorks his journalistic champagne and drizzles Arshavin with praise in his article, but his feelings about any Everton bid are less than complimentary.
Everton’s interest, as so often, has been talked about without materialising into fact and after he destroyed Sweden I suspect he may have more illustrious clubs on his trail.
Sorry to sound cruel Everton fans, but I am afraid that falls into the harsh but fair category. I do not see why Arshavin would end up at Everton. (BBC)
Admittedly the Russian is on £50,000-a-week at UEFA Cup winners Zenit St Petersburg, but to imply that he is too good for Everton and then say that Manchester City should have a splurge on him (which he does later in the article) is a little rich isn’t it? Moyes’ interest in Arshavin started when Everton entertained Zenit in the UEFA Cup, and the flame-haired Jock has declared his interest in bringing in players that will drag Everton up another level.
Is Arshavin really an unrealistic target for Everton?
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... - June 20th, 2008 at 10:31 am
everton are the 5 best club in england. Arshavin personally said he likes Everton, so man city fans can get lost. Money wont buy you success as we have seen with liverpool
jim bobbys - June 20th, 2008 at 10:31 am
If anything, maybe Everton are too good for him…..
Arthur Bolokov - June 20th, 2008 at 10:33 am
McNulty is a notorious Kopite. He is a wum.
If Arshavin is on £50K /week, and as Zenit are in Champions League, he might be best suited staying where he is. If Man City want to pay him £100K weekly then good luck to them.
Joe - June 20th, 2008 at 10:34 am
No he’s not. He’s exactly what we need to push on and mount a serious challenge on the top 4.
Phil McNulty is quite simply, a cretin.
Liam Blue Nose - June 20th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Am i right in saying that this article suggests Man City are a better team than Everton ? And Arshavin will join them ?
Biggest load of rubbish i have read from you yet Dexter !
MCFC - June 20th, 2008 at 10:40 am
It did with Chelski though – come on in Arshavin and welcome to Manchester.
stu b - June 20th, 2008 at 10:43 am
What a tit! Man City are better than Everton. Did he go to the 2-0 at eastlands?
ANDY DAVIES - June 20th, 2008 at 10:44 am
I find that comment a little naive and rather disrespctful to Everton football club and its fans to be honest. Correct if I’am wrong but have Everton consistenly finished above Man City in the league? Have Everton ever had a chairman to throw wasteful millions about??.. The answer is no, and to say Arshavin should go to Man city, then yes if money is his motive.
Dave Kay - June 20th, 2008 at 10:48 am
he would be better at City as we at least try to play entertaining football. maybe at this time Everton are a little better, but not for much longer
jase - June 20th, 2008 at 10:49 am
I think playing infront of more fans could tempt him more. We’ll be way ahead of Everton in about 3 years anyway. Phil McNulty is a blue anyway!
Adam - June 20th, 2008 at 10:57 am
I have to agree with the comments made by ANDY DAVIES, I think it will say alot about the character of Arshavin if he does choose a move to Man City over Everton. I think its a sad predicament that the premier league finds itself in. Money over Ambition, its quite sad.
Arthur Bolokov - June 20th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Dave Kay, aka known as soft lad. When Everton have the full squad available we play very entertaining stuff. How entertaining will City be with Mark Hughes and his Blackburn snide style? He should stay where he is or go to another Champs Leagues side who will pay him more. I don’t think any of them (Europe wide) may want him, but if he only wants the cash then you can have him.
Ken Cheese - June 20th, 2008 at 11:01 am
I think Everton are a bit rubbish and Arseshavin’ is not quite the finished article. He should go to Hull
stu b - June 20th, 2008 at 11:02 am
I wonder who will be the next manager at City? Maybe Moyes eh!
Ken Cheese - June 20th, 2008 at 11:03 am
I think Everton are a bit rubbish and Arseshavin’ is not quite the finished article. He should go to Hull City.
Arthur Bolokov - June 20th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Stu B. City could have gone for Moyes this time round. Maybe they didand got knocked back! Whilst I am not daft enough to think Moyes is at Everton for ever, I don’t think he is daft enough to link up with Sinatra for 6 months.
Mr Bluesky - June 20th, 2008 at 11:08 am
I agree whole-heartedly. Manchester City are currently similar size to Everton, but with all due respect and considering the ambition our club and chairman are showing – City will be a club only Everton fans could dream of in the near future. Go on Everton fans… now have your dig – truth hurts doesn’t it ?
gaga - June 20th, 2008 at 11:08 am
IM A CITY FAN HE IS NOT TOO GOOD FOR EVERTON BUT SAYING THAT IT WOULDNT BE STRANGE TO CHOOSE CITY OVER EVERTON AS THE PROJECT GOING ON IS POTENTIALLY HUGE ON TOP OF THAT I DONT THINK HE WOULD FIT IN EVERTONS TEAM AS GOOD AS CITYS, I THINK A GOOD BUY FOR EVERTON WOULD BE BENTLEY I THINK HE PLAYS TO THE SAME KINDA PACE AS EVERTON, PLUS IF YOUR HONEST WITH YOURSELF EVERTON FANS CITY ARE A BIGGER CLUB THAN YOU WITH OR WITHOUT MONEY AND WE ALWAYS WILL BE AND THATS TRUE NOT BECAUSE IM A BLUE .BY THE WAY THE GUY THAT SAID CITY FANS CAN GET LOST WHY ITS NOT OUR FAULT WE DIDNT WRITE THIS ARTICLE.
blue - June 20th, 2008 at 11:08 am
City are not even a premier league team they will be back in the championship in a year or 2
Everton have won more in 50 years of history than city in 100 i dont see this changing either
Steve - June 20th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Given his dramatic impact for Russia I can well see the likes of clubs in the CL looking at him to strengthen their squads. Having got his UEFA cup medal surely he’ll be looking to better that. If true, a price tag of c.£10m+ would be a snip for the likes of Manure, Chavski the Arseoles probably even the Kopshytes and a host of continental clubs. So yes I can see Everton missing out but REALLY! what the hell suddenly puts no-mark City into the frame? Idiosynchratic club at best of times and now a chairman to match. Their new found money may help overcome their flakey finances and to pay a silly money to has beens like Ronaldinho but with no recent successes to talk about they’re on a par with the barcodes – all mouth no trousers.
topov - June 20th, 2008 at 11:18 am
re: dave kays comment…..everton have been better than city since 1878
city have a new manager who likes his teams to boot the opponents into submission
everton have a midfield where every player can swap positions at any time and still look comfortable
where would any decent footballer go given those facts…? money may sway him though and who wants mercenaries….?
phil mcnulty spouts garbage from every pore and always has done – he was hated by all footy fans during his stint at the liverpool echo
Stick your effin Toffee up your 4rse... - June 20th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Is this even worthy of using (not so valuable) space on the web….? pure speculation…
stu b - June 20th, 2008 at 11:20 am
The truth is in your history. Money can not buy you everything, look at Liverpool, if he goes to City it will be money not the team or manager that will make the difference. Everton have an settled team, where as City, well? Really who cares anyway, he will probably go to a bigger club than both of us, now that he has had a good game in the Euro? So that is that, a load of wind if you ask me. Buy him and we will still stuff you this season anyway! Like we always stuff Blackburn! COYB!
Dave Kay - June 20th, 2008 at 11:27 am
So Graveson, Carsley, Neville, Sharp, Gray, were all great clean players who never kicked anybody ?????
Bristol City Fan (I come in peace) - June 20th, 2008 at 11:28 am
@ Blue – you are obviously as clueless as you are dilluded.
@ Adam – You can hardly question City’s ambition
@McNulty – as biased a journalist as you are likey to find
I’m unsure whay Arse Shavings would go to either team, seeing as he currently plays for the UEFA Cup Champions, is on 50,000 a week and is a hero in his homeland.
Dave Kay - June 20th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Blue & topov, boys you have made my day. You should have gone on Britains got talent as a double act. This country is lacking comedians
blue - June 20th, 2008 at 11:39 am
City will not qualify for europe through the fair play league with hughes in charge
top 10 will be a good season for city finshing 7th is the best they can hope for but again they will not be in europe next year
Everton will be challenging for 4th place again
a player who has ambition will know royal blue is the color
BlueMooner - June 20th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Same old Everton bangin on and on about the past, look at City then look at Everton.
City have a fanatastic stadium, facilities to match and a board proactively chasing improvements on and off the pitch.
Everton on the other hand remind me of City in the early 90’s all talk of new investment just around the corner and bargain basement signings.
As for the comment about money not buying success, look at the transfer fees the Scum over at the swamp have shelled out and they are currently champions of England and Europe. So money can and does buy success pity you will not see either anytime soon Toffee boys.
Dave Kay - June 20th, 2008 at 11:47 am
HA HA HA HA
Challenging for 4th and actually finishing there are two different things !!!!
Without Arteta and Cahill another non kicking midfielder, you are nothing
City will finish above the royal blues this season
topov - June 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am
dave kay here is something else to make you laugh….
your team who are so much better everton have won as many titles as PNE, burnley, spurs, portsmouth & derby county….they are bettered by the likes of the mighty huddersfield, sheff wed, wolves, chelsea and blackburn….and they were playing in the 3rd division 5 minutes ago – you must be so proud
and try quoting players who actual play for us in your next pop, only neville is at goodison and he’s a defender
clever lad you la
efcuk1 - June 20th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Michael Johnson & Arshavin signing for Everton next Wednesday. Heard it hear first.
blue - June 20th, 2008 at 11:58 am
city have have spent more time in the championship than the prem …..
Bluboy - June 20th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I have always thought of City fans as “proper” fans of one of their cities football teams,much like Evertonians and theirs,but they do have short memories.Older supporters can remember the checkbook management styles of Allison and Bond and recent times with Keegan and Sven and the bottom line is City are an ordinary,sometimes midtable club.A decent new manager,and a chairman with little sense but lots of money wont change a thing.
adam doyle efc 4 life - June 20th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
please, please tell me i did not just read this bolloks, city are shite you injected funds into thier team an finished far off a uefa cup place, beatin 8-1 by shitty middlesborough, 6-0 by chelski were in division two only a few years back, got uefa cup through the gay fair play league and were smashed on both occasions by the mighty blues so how the hell can you Mr Bluesky say that were on the same level and come back to the real world city will not be on the same level in a few years or never but they will never be better than us.
Red Devil - June 20th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
City are a bigger club than little Everton and are about to get bigger, so it would be a sensible choice. Like a choice between Liverpool or Tranmere that.
steve - June 20th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Im a City fan. I think this player would be suited to both City and Everton who are of similar size. Credit where credit is due, Everton have done fantastic over the last couple of years and probably need a player of this stature to move upwards and so will City.
The decision will come from him and will depend on the Project and ambitions of the club. This will obviously require financial clout which City have at this moment in time so I would say on the back of that City would be favourites (unless the like of Chelski came along that is)
Robbo - June 20th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
‘Gaga’
Ciry are bigger than Everton? 9 league titles says different, and that doesn’t mean lower league titles either!!!!
SUPER BLUE - June 20th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
THIS BLOKE IS A MUPPET RED SHYTE FAN. Of COURSE HES GONNA TALK BOLLOX LIKE THIS, WHEN HE OBVIOUSLY KNOWS SWEET FA ABOUT FOOTBALL. HE SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON HIS OWN SHYTE SPANISH CLUB
rob arrowsmith - June 20th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Arshavin has already said a number of times he will only go to a club that can offer Champions League Football, which neither us (EFC) or City can offer so it looks like both will miss out.
anyway, how was that Monday night back in Feb when the toffees came down to that big, new, shiny (usually empty) stadium of yours and not only wiped the floor with you but also ended any hopes you had of Europe?
Lee B - June 20th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
i cant believe all this rubbish, city have just nicked there ground off the local council and have a man in charge who is a criminal in his own country,and back door entry into the uefa cup, typical city no stability, where as u look at efc and the amount of debt we will NOT be in when our chairman leaves compared to your flash in the pan. u need about another 6 seasons just to be challenging us for 5th spot, good luck anyway in your top half fight.
Ash - June 20th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
City will be much better than everton next season. Who are everton buying this summer? Were possibly getting the likes of Ronaldinho, Jo, Arshavin, Podolski etc…
Lee B - June 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
ASH the big world there mate is POSSIBLY, we are possibly getting the same players (except ronaldinho)
Ash - June 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Haha were in europe rob!!
Adam - June 20th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Bristol City Fan, Im not questioning Man Citys ambition, I believe that they will do well. What Im questioning is Arshavins. In terms of picking Man City over Everton its a no-brainer, Everton have built something and are a consistent club now, Moyes has laid the foundations of a very good team who have been consistantly in the top ten on a shoestring budget. The only thing that can turn Arshavins head to the eastlands is money, which in my opinion is ashame, because Everton are a better TEAM than Man City.
Evertonfc4eva - June 20th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Yeah, Mcnulty doesn’t know what he’s on about, Arshavin personally said if he was to leave for England Everton would be his first choice because he loved the way we played and the atmosphere when Zenit visited Goodison last year.
If he wants money then he’ll move to City because we have a wage cap of about 55 grand a week i believe whereas City don’t but if he wants football which i am certain he would prefer over money, he would want to be playing for Everton, now that they’re an established UEFA cup team after qualifying for Europe 3 times out of the past 4 seasons, whereas City are about as stable as a one legged man doing the oki-coki.
Moyes, bring in the Russian shaven-arse!
... - June 20th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
to ASH, weve been runmoured with arshaivn, joaquin, kallstrom, Jo and Owen. Man city a few years back were like wigan, now they have money they think there chelsea. Even if you do finish 4th or first, people will still think of you as a promotion team, at best, a small club.
manufan08 - June 20th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
arshavin is a good prospect but hasnt proved to b world class yet but he is exactly what evertn need !! everton are a team who if they buy good players could stay one of the best 5 teams in england or better. they are a team on the up. man city havent been in the frame for a long time
Jamie - June 20th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Ash – yes, you’re in Europe, and WHAT a great way that you qualified.
I’m neither a City nor Everton fan, but to suggest that City are a more attractive proposition than Everton for ANY reason other than money is quite frankly ridiculous. £200k p/w for a washed up Ronaldinho anyone?
Everton have done an impressive job of building over the last 6 years under David Moyes, without trying to buy success by spending outlandish amounts of money. They have gradually strengthened each season and I fully expect them to do so again this season, and once again be pushing the top 4 all the way – whether they can crack that barrier remains to be seen, but they’ll come a lot closer than City… again.
Ruddy Perfect - June 20th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Arshavin would be an astute Moyes signing, and would make an impact. Citeh are going nowhere, they are very unstable.
Lee B - June 20th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Some city fans are even more deluded thinking they are better than efc, than liverpool fans thinking there gonna win the league, some unbelievable comments on here, i think city are newcastle in disguise big big fan base with a board and players that just are not good enough,
And dont even get me started on replacing Eriksson with Sparky, thats like everton gettin ian rush to be our next manager haha laughin stock
gareth - June 20th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Man City fans, ask youself one question, were you, or were you not in the 3rd tier of English football? Nevermind a few years ago, in your history! That is laughable to turn around and say you are a big club. Everton have never been outside the top 2 divisons and have played over 100 years of top flight football.
We are one of the original big 5 (Everton, lpool, Arsenal. Spurs and United). City are nowhere near it! You last won a cup in the 70’s i think (or am I being generous?). No one knows who you are if it wasn’t for United.
We are the original big 5 and now we are in the top 5 with no major money spent. You only wish you had a chairman, Manager and fans like Everton.
Remember this…….Feed the Yak and he will score!
And for the dope who said City play good football??? With that with Shaun Goater!!!! ha! You bunch of idiots! Come back when you have Dixie Dean, Alex Young, Dave Hickson, Alan Ball, Brian Labone, Bob Lachford, Andy Gray, Gary Lineker, Greame Sharp, Big Dunc and now the Yak! You can’t include Niall Quinn or Rosler in your list!!!!! ha. Calling us a small club! Not one of your ex players could lace their boats!
TrueBlue1878 - June 20th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Jesus, i cant believe how, by having a chairman whos loaded, they seem to be living in dreamland! I think city are a decent team so im not writing this to take a dig but Everton are a bigger club by far with a huge history and, like city, loyal fans. I think Arshavin would fit in well at both clubs, we both have a good foundation to push for the top four in time but i think it should be respected that Everton will do it without the easy route of mass foreign investment. Yes, i wish we had more money to spend but Moyes and Kenwright have to be praised for getting us where we are now considering we were 20 million in debt when he took over!!
Lets just hope we can keep progressing and and after another couple of seasons and a few decent signings we can keep moving in the right direction and finally start creeping into the Champions League every year.
Maybe a richer club, but bigger???!!! d’oh!!
Harvster - June 20th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
City = Coucil House, No trophies In 30 Years, Mercenary Players (and Manager), Bent Chairman, Yo-yo Team.
Everton = Brand New Stadium On The Horizon, Players Whom Play For The Shirt, Fourth Best Trophy Haul In The League, Manager Of The Season 2 Out Of Last 4 Seasons, Longest Overall In English Top League.
Yeh, dead hard choice that Andrei!
steve - June 20th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Lets just see where he goes shall we. All these Everton fans have a complex about size. Its ridiculous!! It must be a scouser thing.
Blue Olly - June 20th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
‘Money won’t buy you success look at Liverpool’ ha ha ha ha you bitter muppet – city ARE a bigger club than Everton.
Harry Kewell - June 20th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Both Blue teams are pure shite. Why would Arshavin, gr8 name by the way Tiger, go to Citeh or the Toffee Spacko’s??? Please. He will end up @Highbury!
steve - June 20th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
52 Harvster – New Staduim hey !! You just need some fans to put in it
Mr Bluesky - June 20th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Talking about this guy as if he’s the only footballer in the world !! as for a lot of you Everton fans – all you seem to be talking is a load of bolox. England won the world cup in 1966 (before most of you were probably born)… but wouldn’t it be nice to see them win it in 2010… what I’m getting at here; is the past is dead and buried, enjoy your memories Everton because between the two of us THE FUTURE IS CITY’S !!
Jay2409 - June 20th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Mr Bluesky:
For success, you need 1 thing above all – stability.
How are City’s stocks of stability doing?
Gareth - June 20th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
THE FUTURE IS CITY’S !! haha, the future is United!!!!!!!
And then Everton!
Harvster - June 20th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
steve…seem to remember we averaged slightly bigger crowds than you when you were at Maine Road.
Taking our obstructed views away, we fill our stadium every home game. Don’t know if you’ve been but we have the worst obstructed views in the league.
In years gone by, those seats were sought after! But not anymore.
We all know don’t we, that you gain 10,000 new fans at a new stadium.
FFS, even Boro fans will testify to that!
Tim - June 20th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
ok now lets look at the present, not what city will be because the wont be, city will end up like leeds spend spend spend nothin to show for it therefore debt, wages dropp, players leave, new manager every 7 losing streak, in the future, there will only be 2 clubs in manchester , united and united reserves, (truth hurts doesn’t it) city arent in the champions league, arent in uefa, now tell me again why city would be a better move? because al ive heard is in the future they will…… they wont!
Tim - June 20th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
city your not even has beens, your never was, the reason us evertonians like to talk about our past is because we can, cant say the same for u like, everton are on the up you know it, i know it, we earn our money through success, and spend on players, u lose money because you dont succeed, but lukily uve got a bent chairman to bail you out, all i can say it let hope he doesn’t leave because the only championship at mancity in the furture will be the football there playing.
EVERTON ARE THE TEAM TO FOLLOW.
Hardy - June 20th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Council House, Dodgy chairman, No trophies…Blah blah. We are City and we’ll always be from Manchester…..Good Luck in Kirkby Tesco boys.
mike collins - June 20th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
everton are not going any further than what they have done already, infact they have over acheaved so every credit to moyes, he is a crackin manager , so dont be surprised that he leaves everton soon just like hughesy did with blackburn. as for arshavin it is a no brainer city are going places everton are only going down so sorry my little scouse freinds that is the truth, and scousers you cant handle the truth
mike collins - June 20th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
stability. fuck me look we are englands future
rosler - June 20th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Tim, Typical idiotic childish post of someone who lacks either education or intelligence. You say lets look at the present then proceed to look at what you hope will be the future IN YOUR OPINION. Citys past debt has been eliminated. Wages are not dropping, on the contrary they are increasing sharply. What players of City’s have you heard are leaving? Only ones not contracted or classed as dead wood will be going. Yes we kick out managers who dont achieve. The regime is more ruthless than before. The Sven story is not as simple as it appears. City are in UEFA – see you there soon? True they are not in CL but Hughes has £200m to make sure they are within 2 years. City only played United twice last season. Beat them both times. But you wouldnt know about that I supppose – beating United at OT. You are seriously thick pal. And as a Scouser I presume you are a criminal too.
BlueSte - June 20th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I am a City fan, and being honest, I think there are great parallels between City and Everton. I think in the main we represent our respective Cities and the ideologies of our respective cities better than our more *illustrious* neighbours, and while Everton’s trophy cabinet is considerably larger than City’s in terms of where it counts, in the here and now, the question was asked *are City a more attractive proposition than Everton?*…not who has won more trophies.
Well both are offering european football next year, both have similar fanbases, and both have vibrant cities to live in, so I think its a close call. I would offer a word of warning though, as having been a City fan for all my 31 years, from a family of blues, and having seen it all, and been through it all, I would warn Evertonians of harping on about yesteryear, and how wonderful it was. So what if you were one of the big 5, at the turn of the 1900’s Royal Engineers, Wanderers, Old Etonians were part of the big 5. When your history is all you have to go on about, even them memories will fade for many of you. Afterall, you’d have to be over 25 really to remember the last truly great Everton side, and your annual flirtations with relegation, and bent goalies are only recently a thing of the past for you lot, hopefully.
Anyhoo, all the best for the new season, and hopefully we can finish above you this time, and start reversing the trend.
woodsy - June 20th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
you sad pathetic scouse muppets. why would he join city over everton? well, first of all yes, he would get more money. that unfortunately is a fact in football these days. secondly, a manager known around the world from his playing days and who did a great job at blackburn…….as appose to David ‘preston north end’ moyes. also, we have a top football ground (owned or not) rather than a ramshackle 1960’s pit. we have money to build for the future. we have arguably the best youh acadamy in the country. We have the bestyoung defender in the country (micah richards), one o the best yound midfielders (Johnson), whom I believe you sad acts want o buy from us but have no chance. and w have a future england no.1, possiblyeven this season. Need I go on?????? tossers!
Mr Bluesky - June 20th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Sweet “Dreams” Everton.
ourtetas view - June 20th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Woody,who told you too come up with that shite,buzz lightyear.We let johnson join your academy from ours,and hes obviously done well since going there,but if he wants to try and lay cl football then efc is a much more realistic team to achieve that.Yes he can play at a bigger ground but if he wants to play in front of a full house then again he’d choose efc.Hughes is known as a player,but moyes is known more globally as a manager,you need at least 4/5 players to have a team challenging the top 5,so good luck with that.
Adam - June 20th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
To Mike Collins, as for Everton not going any further than they already have, well i bet alot of Man City Fans would take Evertons acheivements. You’ve done nothing in the past five years when compared to everton. We have had european football 3 of the past 5 seasons (Im sure you were in the first division during that time????) You had all the money last year to carry out what your claiming your gonna do this year, but what happened. Everton are only on the up my friend. It will take City atleast 3-4 years to get even near Everton and what they have acheived. (Well that is if your owner isnt banged up before then).
alan parks true blue - June 20th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
city to finish above everton your having a laugh rnt u????
look at the money u spent last year and where did u finish? your only in europe through the back door. It should of been everton in the uefa cup final last year beating zenit (who we already beat in the group stages).
You get one of the best managers in the world and sack him after not even a year and get a manager in who is not nearly as qualified as sven. I rate mark hughes i do but he is no where near davey moyes yet. We has turned everton from a relegation battling team to a team challenging for the champions league.
Now if you where arshavin who would u choose a team challenging for champions league with european experience and a great team spirit and not to mention a bigger history and fan base
or
a team just making it into the uefa cup by the fair play league, a chairman who just bought the club to stop himself gettin arrested in his own country who cud change the manager if he doesnt get success straight away, a half enpty stadium with no history
a easy decision to make i think not that arshavin will choose everton or city he will be playin champs league next yr for arsenal, real, inter etc.
Raver - June 20th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Come back when you play entertaining football, Blue Scousers !
I bet those obstructed views sell first, at your home games!
Ha Ha Ha
Jed - June 20th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Just read this storey. I’m a neutral, but when you look at the ambition Man City are showing compared with Everton then surely this guy would go to City if he has the choice. I went to both City & Everton’s grounds last season – the set-up at City is on a much bigger scale than Everton, you just get the feeling this club is going places. Their fans have waited in pain for years, but i can’t see that lasting much longer. Big club, big loyal fan base – looks like it will be them heading for the big time (not Everton, sorry).
Everton - June 20th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Raver – Come back with entertaining football? A win is a win, as you saw against us, twice this season, pretty clear which team is better there.
Come back and win a few games, it wasnt long ago when you were celebrating our first goal in what? 6 months or something? The only reason you got into Europe is because you didnt foul anyone, and you think that will bring top class players to you?, now Everton qualified for Europe, 5th best team in the premiership, only on the up. Man City, 3 good players, NNEEHH – 3 good youngsters thats all, which will be taken off you soon.
Connor Rohrer - June 20th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I’m an Evertonian and I think Arshavin would see both Everton and Man City as good up and coming clubs to join. Thats what we are. We have good loyal fan bases, we have good, young talented players and two up and coming managers. There are alot of positives Arshavin could look at when joining Everton or City. At the moment we are sligtly ahead but there’s no dounting City have alot of potential.
I think alot of people are being childish bringing up history and money. Does it matter? I know for a fact we are a bigger club than City but it means nothing. Thats in the past and I doubt Arshavin is going to study both clubs history and make his decision. It won’t happen so don’t delude yoursleves.
The fact that Everton don’t have alot of money has been mentioned for a few years now. We here things like you’ve peaked and you won’t improve yet we outperform big spenders every year. Its not all about how much money you have. If you have the money to atleast compete which we do then you’ll be fine. Its all comes down to how good your manager is in the market and Moyes has proven he’s very good in that deparment with the likes of Arteta, Cahill, Lescott, Pienaar, Jagielka and Yobo all coming for reasonably low prices.
Stop the bickering and discuss properly. Slagging off opposition clubs gets us nowhere.
Ian - June 20th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
To be honest as a neutral looking on, Everton and Man City have always been big clubs but City seemed to have took off now to another stratosphere. Until Everton find someone to pump some funds in they will struggle to keep up with city’s ambitions.
The only thing that matters in football is money, look at Blackburn when they virtually bought the title. Now Chelsea have become one of the biggest clubs in the world purley by pumping money in. Man U have always pumped cash in and always bought the best available no matter what the price, Liverpool did the same thing during the 70s and 80s.
Man City over the next couple of years of massive investment will overtake teams like Everton, West Ham and Portsmouth etc. Obviously players ae going to see this and choose the team with the most ambition (and cash) its obvious. After all Football is more a business now than its ever been
Drew Vader - June 20th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
citeh fans talking about their shiney new council house as an attractive factor is hilarious. Its at full capacity once and only once a year, when United come to town.
Anonymous - June 20th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
all use everton fans are loser, man city are a far better and rich club than use, has ronaldiniho ever considered a move to mersyside?? answer is no, use beat us last season because our manager was to laid back, so get a life and keep on dreamin u scowse gippos and for the joker hu said we only fill da stadium once at united, sorry to spoil your wee party but the only time we filled it this season was against liverpool, so do ur homework before coming up with this bullshit and this is for the ten year old who says man city only have 3 good players, if they only has 3 good players then why are all their players playing professional football ya dick, and ur tramps use cant afford a new stadium use r trying to share with liverpool and yes we get a so called council house but we have a billionaire chairman to back us up, what do use have?? some gippo from liverpool occupying a slum in mersyside!!!
Adam - June 20th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
The only reason Ronaldiniho is considering a move to Man City is because he can fill his pockets. If he is going to be such a great signing why are’nt Man Utd, Chealsea, Arsenal etc goinig after him. And to the knob who said we cant afford a stadium, atleast it will be OUR stadium not a hand-me-down. As for your chairman, he is a criminal. Anonymous, go and learn a thing or two about football before you post comments. Idiot
Citizen Sid - June 20th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Jamie – How can you say Ronaldhinio is washed up? 1 bad season (most of which he’s been injured). You clearly have no idea of the bigger picture. The only reason Frank is interested in the buck toothed one is PR and shit loads of money. Now look at the serious FOOTBALL links – Jo, Arshavin, Podolski etc. Who have everton been linked with? That tells you where the ambition and future lies. Everton are a great top 6/5 club but will always be in Liverpool’s shadow, just like City in the Rags, but at least we’ve got the potential to break into the top 4 in the not so distant future!!!
woodsy - June 20th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
ourtetas view – Moyes known more globally as a manager?? hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Has another scouse muppet nicked whats between your ears you clown. You ‘LET’ Johnson join our academy??? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. how does that work then? you see a good player and then think, ‘you know what….I think we’ll give him to Manchester City’ hahahahahaha you tit! he obviously picked us. says alot that don’t you think. How any of you idiots can take the piss out of our council owned ground when you were beggin to join forces with your enemy is just fucking laughable. No money, shit ground, muppet fans……ourtetas view = knobheads view.
woodsy - June 20th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
drew vader….your name says it all you fucking gimp
Rich EFC - June 20th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
This is suggesting that Man City are better than Everton is it not? This is completely naive. Everton played oustanding last season, and will only improve. Man City are on equal with Blackburn and Tottenham, and Arshavin at those clubs? He deserves success, and will not find it at Man City. I would be proud to have a player like him at Everton, as would be a shame to see an excellent striker to go to waste at a rich pig club.
tom - June 20th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Some of these opinions are pathetic.
Biased or what.
Everton play better, win more matches and dont need waste money on players like Ronaldinho just to sell a few shirts.
Man City have a pathetic chairman and i feel sorry for any manager who is pusuaded to take over there.
Adam - June 20th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Woodsey I have to say you are a tit. Everton have got on fine without Johnson yet you have struggled. Everton never wanted a ground share, Why do you think there has been so many appeals by Everton, it was the council who were pushing for the grounshare. Are you one of those fans who have just realised your a Man City fan cos your being linked with Ronaldiniho. I think you are. Dickhead
Everton - June 20th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
To “anonymous” – sort your grammar out. Full stops, and capital letters, people in junior school know that.
Man city fans saying Everton have been linked with no-one? We have been linked with moutinho, arshavin, joaquin, and many more.
Man City fans thinking they are going to break into the top 4 straight away? Come on, a team isnt just about good players, its about a good attitude, good morale and all that. Give it 3 or 4 years maybe, but right now, with 2 more signings and a season without cahill injured, we can and will push for top 4.
fozzy - June 21st, 2008 at 1:23 am
having money doesnt make you a “big” club just ask newcastle supporters!
oh no better not cuz they are “great” aint they!
its all about tropheys boy and girls and man city are no were near everton!
City Slicker - June 21st, 2008 at 2:37 am
Has anyone seen Evertons proposed new stadium? It reminds me of my local B&Q….mmmm classy.Where are you going la?I am going shopping at the B&Q mega mart? Everton the one chant football team
Jamie - June 21st, 2008 at 4:07 am
Citizen Sid-
Who have Everton been linked with?
Well, just off the top of my head from stuff I’ve read in the last week or so, Arshavin, Moutinho, Veloso, Turan, Owen, Jo, Engelaar, Kallstrom, Joaquin, a permanent move for Manny Fernandes, Huddlestone, Bentley, Dudu.
And that’s just in the last couple of weeks.
As for Ronaldinho, if I’m wrong about him being “washed up” then tell me, why are only 2 clubs in the whole of Europe interested in him? One being Man City, and the other being Milan, who are scrapping to sign pretty much anyone to keep their fanbase happy after their worst season in god knows how many years. Surely if he was going to be such an amazing signing (especially given the fact that he’s gonna be going for a relatively low fee) then the world and his wife would be after him?
Davo - June 21st, 2008 at 7:56 am
Seriously, you mancs are getting like the the geordies. Get back in your box you biffs. You all dress like you are from the eastern europe in the 1980’s and will be in the championship along with the geordies within 5 years.
Jed - June 21st, 2008 at 10:15 am
Why is the fact that Man City ‘rent’ their stadium from Manchester council such a bad thing ? Anyone in business will tell you that keeping your overheads to a minimum is the only way to be sucessful, and this is exactly what Man City do ? Reading through the comments it is obvious a lot Everton fans are green with envy about Man City – and most of them probably rent their own council house !
jeote - June 21st, 2008 at 10:54 am
i think that if he is earning 50k a week and playin champions leaugue footbal next year living in his home country .. why would he want to leave?? .. i dont think any club will sign him this year i think he will stay put. unless a bigger club like inter…liverpool..man utd..barca..etc. offered him contracts i dont see why he would leave. with no disrespect intended towards everton nd man city fans intended in this comment mite i add.
St. Domingo F.C - June 21st, 2008 at 11:21 am
to be honest asharvin would prob be better for city than us, as i really don’t rate him.he played well in one or two games, but now suddenly everyone loves him. i would prefer van der vaart. spend money on some one else joaquin is a good choice, with arteta leaving we need some one else in midfield in arteta mould. i say put in a bid for alonso if those prats at liverfool don’t want him we will;
Kuyt - June 21st, 2008 at 11:24 am
I agree everton are a small club and always will be, end off.
Superblue - June 21st, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Any player looking at Everton and City will be looking for future potential not past history. Everton are probably playing at there full potential and are doing great with limited resources but can they really compete with the top 4 unless they get a massive investment? Never mind transfer fees but what about the huge wages the really top players demand. I think Everton are already shooting above there weight. City on the other hand are definatley not! They are vastly under achieving. However with the owner apparantly willing to invest massive amounts, (far greater than Everton can dream of), the future, although not guaranteed, will look far more enticing to prospective players. Money talks. Ask Chelsea fans. Look where they were before the Russian arrived.
Toffe Boy - June 21st, 2008 at 12:20 pm
lets ber honest city fans u do sell out ur stadium its just a shame every1 goes in fancy dress …. as ur stadium seats. My back garden has more people in it than ur stadium!
Jed - June 21st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Think you will find Man City pull bigger crowds than Everton when you look at the Facts:
Average Attendance Rankings
Team Pld Total Highest Average Capacity Pct
1 Manchester United (1) 19 1438136 76013 75691 76212 99.3%
2 Arsenal (3) 19 1141335 60161 60070 60432 99.4%
3 Newcastle United (12) 19 959266 52307 50488 52387 96.3%
4 Liverpool (4) 19 827111 44459 43532 45362 95.9%
5 Sunderland (15) 19 823540 47802 43344 49000 88.4%
6 Manchester City (9) 19 800400 47321 42126 48000 87.7%
7 Chelsea (2) 19 786549 41837 41397 42055 98.4%
8 Aston Villa (6) 19 766560 42640 40345 42551 94.8%
9 Everton (5) 19 702142 40049 36955 40394 91.4%
10 Tottenham Hotspur (11) 19 683370 36178 35967 36310 99.0%
11 West Ham United (10) 19 657423 34980 34601 35647 97.0%
12 Derby County (20) 19 616216 33087 32432 33597 96.5%
13 Middlesbrough (13) 19 507450 33952 26708 35100 76.0%
14 Birmingham City (19) 19 497438 29252 26181 30009 87.2%
15 Blackburn Rovers (7) 19 454928 30316 23944 31367 76.3%
16 Fulham (17) 19 451696 25357 23773 26600 89.3%
17 Reading (18) 19 448115 24374 23585 24200 97.4%
18 Bolton Wanderers (16) 19 394183 25414 20746 28723 72.2%
19 Portsmouth (8) 19 378367 20556 19914 20688 96.2%
20 Wigan Athletic (14) 19 361876 25133 19046 25138 75.7%
Jed - June 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pm
When you weigh up there are only 3 prem sides in North East compared with 7 in North West then you can quite comfortably class Man City in the Top 4/5 in the country.
Man City’s average crowd is 42,126
Everton’s average crowd is 36,955
End of story boys !
Jamie - June 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
It’s not REALLY the end of the story though is it. Man City average 5000 less than capacity, while Everton average 3000 off capacity… and when you consider that the majority of those 3000 seats are restricted views… the line becomes even less clear.
Josh - June 21st, 2008 at 4:14 pm
He will fit perfectly into Man City a team on the up , everton have not got the financial qualites to compete with man city so get over it !
Jed - June 21st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Doesn’t matter if Everton had a 60,ooo seater stadium – you average 36,000 and that’s it. Are you trying to tell me Wigan would get 80,000 if they had a 100,000 seater stadium… I don’t think so. Admit it, Man City are a bigger club (full stop) and I don’t even support them.
jamie - June 21st, 2008 at 8:00 pm
this argument about who is the biggest club is stupid. to answer this you have to agree on a criteria that you will use to judge who is biggest.
Measure of stature
1) stadium size
2) Success
3) Fans
4) Finance
5) any other suggestions???
1)Man city have a bigger stadium – but they rent it! everton own theres. therefore it is an assest. Surely owning your own stadium makes you bigger?
2) On success:
a. Everton have played in the topflight more then any other club
b. on silverware are the 5th most sucssefull club in English Football
c. if you add up all the points gained by any english club Everton come top
3. congratulations to man city they get a few extra thousdan fans on average attendance over the season. wow that makes you a bigger club well done. we all know that difference would change significantly WHEN everton get their new ground. WHICH WILL HAVE 12,000 MORE CAPACITY. Everton sell out at present on all their big games. so apply a little common sense here
4) Man city are cash rich at the moment, well thats if “sinartra” doesnt have his assests frozen. A cash rich investor doesnt make you a big club. Its a clubs capabilitly to generate and maintian its own income through, sponsorship, TV, match tickets and prize money. UNLUCKY that would make everton a far bigger club then man city (at present).
come on lets be sensible i could not give a toss who was bigger, its not important. i love a good argument and debate but only with people who are sensible and have common sense. Just think about what you say before you say it and people will have more respect for your point of view. “we are the biggest club coz we get 3 ,000 fans more then Everton every week” I mean come on, thats a good , well thought out argument isnt it? well done, are you still at primary school?
woodsy - June 21st, 2008 at 9:39 pm
scouse bin dippers
thailand - June 22nd, 2008 at 2:14 am
Fuck you
EVERTON - June 22nd, 2008 at 4:12 am
MAN CITY SUX!!! DATS ABOUT IT…
EASY AND SIMPLE!!!
epl fan - June 22nd, 2008 at 4:47 am
I want him to play for Arsenal..
Best replacement for Hleb
petrov&elano - June 22nd, 2008 at 10:03 am
NO OFFENCE but everton is undoubtedly more prestigious in terms of history and bla bla bla . But i seriously think, that with Hughes in the city hot seat now, things are gonna be different from past seasons. From a neutral point of view-personally i feel that city is gonna be ahead of everton in the upcoming season. Hughes have a brilliant record for managing”growing” teams eg.( Wales –in the past) .With the steady cash flow from Sinawatra, buying in-demand players would be entirely possible. Whereas, Moyes-(also proven to be top-flight manager), lack the funds. Theres no doubt everton will end up top 8 or maybe better.(due to spurs spending spree, buyin big names like modric and dos santos—they will prove to be a strong challenge to both city and everton ).I am in no position to judge, just giving my 2 cents worth. we will have to wait and see for ourselves. so goodluck blue mooners and toffees
mike - June 22nd, 2008 at 5:36 pm
So city think there big time because the papers, have linked them with all these big time players. City will never be bigger than everton our trophy cabinet tells it’s own story. Plus do really think these players are coming to you ( if they are ) to play for city! No there coming to fill their boots and couldnt give a toss about your football team.
woodsy - June 23rd, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Mike – I’d rather have good players coming to play for us for the money than distinctly average players coming to us becuase they have ran out of options……such is the case at Everton. Darren Bent? hahahaha
ourtetas view - June 24th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Woody – hahaha,you fckin pillock.Your knowledge is woeful,johnson was taken to 3 clubs after being realeased,by efc youth officer.he was too small for any top club so had to drop down divisions,and decided on man city,ahead of tranmere and macclesfield which i believe was a good choice,as you are a bigger club than both of those,just.
Now the lad wants to leave,and is interested in efc,says it all ya tart!
As for me’brain,fully intact you mate.your knowledge tells me your a sofa soccer viewer,also known as a tw*t.
Your knowledge on your own club is bad enough,but saying we wanted a ground share is hilarious,you know all about councils and football grounds,so you will know it was members of the council that suggested that,and BOTH clubs said no.
So efc = real fans,traditional ground,intimidating atmoshere,a history,5th best in the country at this time,and growing.
mcfc- money available from a corrupt pm,soon to be in debt when he’s in jail,some deluded fans,wannabe top 6 team.
As for moyes known globally,again you laugh,and again your knowledge shows you up for the window licker you are.Efc had a competition in china for a young player to make it into their academy,at our now elite training complex,and the figures for the entrants hit 6 figures.Moyes was known throughout the country,and is also a hero in thailand due to our sponsors,unlike your chairman who is known there as a criminal,and hated by the people.
We also had a sim ilar competition in canada/usa,and moyes went there,and funnily enough was well known.
Woody = your idiotic comments save me the name calling.
Know the game,know your club and its players,it helps.
mike - June 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
init la !
Hampo CTID - June 26th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
hu the fuk wud rather go to mersyside n av ther fukin hub caps stolen off ther cars then cum to manchester n play for a big club in a big ground rather than play in a fukin shed? Easy answer i think Andrei
ourtetas view - June 26th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
hampo std – ya ground seems so big because its so bloody empty.Im sure he’d rather play in a shed with an atmoshere,than an empty dome with echoes and awkward silences.
He enjoyed playing at gp before im sure he’d do it again.
I dont think he is a player that would suit relegation fight,so shitteh are out of the question.
Anyway he’s going to the next best thing after efc,barca.
Get a dictionary ya soft manc t**t.