New Liverpool signing upset with how milk turned sour at Aston Villa
by stresster on July 9th, 2008It’s a matter of time (days?) before Liverpool finally get their way and sign Gareth Barry for somewhere between £15million and £20million, depending on which newspaper you read. Unlike players such as Ronaldo, Adebayor and Hleb, The Guardian reveals that the midfielder does have a conscience about the matter and is sad about how things have turned sour between him and Martin O’Neill this summer.
Barry has not spoken publicly since he was fined two weeks’ wages and banned from pre-season training after he criticised O’Neill in an interview, but Martin Laursen revealed that the Villa captain has told him that he is “not happy with the way it has ended”. The Danish defender also admitted he felt “sad” at the manner of Barry’s departure and, mindful that Liverpool visit Villa Park in the Premier League in August, urged the club’s supporters to remember the midfielder’s contribution over the past decade.
“It is sad,” said Laursen, referring to the bitter falling out. “A player that has done so much for this club, it is sad it has ended in the way it has done. I don’t know what Gareth wants. I can only say that I am sad that the fans are angry with him now because they have to remember how much he has done for the club and that he has been a really good player. With his quality and the goals he has scored, I don’t think the fans should forget that. I hope they will keep that in mind.”
The saga had begun amicably in May, when O’Neill and Barry had initial discussions about the player’s future, with the England international deciding that he did want to leave. However, with Liverpool preparing to make only baby steps towards Villa’s asking price, it has left the duo frustrated for different reasons. There’s no doubt that the soon-to-be-ex Villans captain will get a mixed reception on his return to Villa Park, not least because the fans will feel the player has messed them around.
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Tagged Under: Aston Villa FC, Liverpool FC, Martin Laursen, martin o'neill, rafael benitez



Abe - July 9th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Barry has done nothing wrong! Players, like the rest of us, change jobs at varied times in our careers. I agree with the Guardian that Barry has acted in a dignified manner right through this saga. I will welcome the Barry Gentleman at Anfield any day. See you in the Champs League next season Bro!
Annoyed - July 9th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
In all of this … how has Barry messed anyone about? He wanted Champions League Football and Liverpool are in a position to offer him what he wants.
Barry has given 11 years of his football career to Villa and he wants a move to become better… if Villa fans want to boo him then he was at the wrong club to begin with.
Missing The Point - July 9th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I think a lot of people are missing with the point as to why the Villa fans are upset. If you’d have asked them about a month ago, they would have totally understood why he was leaving, but, the matter of which he is now leaving is what has annoyed a lot of Aston Villa fans.
For instance, the fact that he hasn’t put in a transfer request so that he can still get his loyalty bonus, if he wants to leave so badly put in the request. Also, the way he went to the papers and put O’Neill and Villa down, you wouldn’t want this off anyone, never mind a supposed hero at the club.
Finally, don’t forget what Aston Villa and Martin O’Neill especially has done for Gareth Barry, he hasn’t exactly done too bad out of it himself, especially since O’Neill made him captain, wouldn’t you be a little annoyed if you were treated this way after you helped a player progress so much?
Mattyslost - July 9th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Its true 7 weeks ago us Villa fans would have been happy with Barry asking for a transfer. The fact is he hasent as he wants to get his £3m loyalty bonus and still get a transfer. The final straw came when he decided to be little MON the Club and us supporters. To be honest im not bothered if he stays or goes. Every player has his day and Barry has had his at VP.
1874AVFC - July 9th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
The problem with Barry is he stated that he wanted Champions League football (don’t all players?), but then when MON offered to double his salary to stay (even though he is still contracted to Villa for 2 years!!), he went whingeing to the press that Villa had done nothing to keep him!! Stating that MON would rather spend time in Austria than sort out his future has riled a lot of Villa fans as this is just his attempt to blame MON for him (or his agent) wanting him to leave. I hope Liverpool dn’t sell Alonso and pull out of the Barry saga, he can come and sit on the bench at VP then and say goodbye to his England career (which was, incidentally, resurrected by O’Neill!). Villa don’t want him to leave hence their “excessive” valuation of him.
Villa fan - July 9th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Simple facts are:
1. Liverpool tried to tap Barry before the end of last season - against the rules and unprofessional - they are doing the same with Keane at Spurs and David Villa
2. Liverpool have failed to make a bid equal to the valuation of a club that does not need to sell a good player
3. Liverpool have consistently over-valued their own cast-offs (Crouch, Pennent, Riise etc.) and under-valued the players they want to recruit - suggesting they have no longer have the financial clout - underlined by trying to phase payment on a deal for Barry on longer than normal terms (going bust under the debt?)
4. $tevie Me broke the rules by tapping ‘Bessie Mate’ Barry in the papers - how happy were Liverpool fans when others did that when he was courted by Chelsea?
5. Best of all - Barry slags off O’Neil and Villa in the NOTW talking about a ‘dream move’ yet to this day he has not handed in a formal transfer request because he wants Villa to rollover, accept a lower than market bid and pay him £2-3m on the remainder of his 2 year contract.
Summary both Liverpool and Barry have lacked class and respect throughout and are welcome to one another. But when Barry gets grief at Villa Park understand why it is. A shame really - he was a decent player over several years. He had a chance to be fondly remembered by the fans but due to his greed, he has blown it.
bill - July 9th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
i aint bothered about barry, if we can sell him for 18 million good riddance, your all going on about him being booed at Villa Park thats if hes playing.
Simon - July 9th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
O’Neill has acted like a prick.
Barry is not worth 18m and he knows it.
Crouch will prove a bargain for 11m. Everyone was laughing when Liverpool paid 7m for him. But enough clubs wanted him at the end. No other club has shown an interest in Barry.
Barry didn’t come through the Villa youth system, they bought him for feck all. They are making a huge profit.
1874AVFC - July 9th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Simon,
How can you say MON has acted like a prick. Demand and supply, Liverpool want Barry, we didn’t want to sell him, so Liverpool have to pay what we want. Suppose you were ok with Benitez wanting £10M for Carson? Pot and Kettle come to mind…..
Yes, we are making a huge profit on Barry, but O’Neill is sticking to his guns and proving we aren’t a selling club, unless the scousers (or any of the supposed Top 4) are mug enough to pay £6M over the odds for an average player.
Hitman - July 9th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Brighton had a sell on clause, not sure if its still active though!
I wont boo Barry if and when he returns…
I think it will make more sense to get behind the current villa players, and show Barry that life goes on…
Villa fan - July 9th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Sorry Hitman - Villa bought out the sell-on clause when Brighton were strapped for cash. Looks like good business now - as does £18m for Barry!
Simon - your toys seem to be coming of the pram. If he’s not worth it, tell Al from the Toy Barn to not buy him. He can sit in the reserves as far as we are concerned. Remember we don’t need to sell.
You are an average team with two quality players - you might just be about to add another (above) average player and still make no impact. I suggest you direct some energy and anger towards a manager that has spent the money and made no progress and/or the board who think they might make a quick buck.
barrys arse hole - July 9th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
i shit it
Banksy - July 9th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
European, FA, Super Cup and Carling Cup. Reserves league, Youth Cups in successive seasons is hardly no progress. Admittedly not exactly dominating like the 70’s and 80’s ……but stilllllll, ‘no progress’ ….come on be fair
Banksy - July 9th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
….and its gotta be said, whilst I dont think Barry is the best footballer on the planet, hes certainly not far off the same valuation as Carrick or Hargreaves, who of course were the same price. If anything Barry is a bargain if compared to Hargreaves…..at least he can pass a ball !!
Banksy - July 9th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
noooooo what am i doing ?? I promised myself i’d never post anything on this site !!!!!!!!!!!!
CY - July 9th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
To be honest, the whole Barry saga has been blown up and I sure agree with the Villa fans that it could have had been handled better. But then again, the blame does not go to Benitez alone, for MON has to take some of it too. I just wonder if its worth it should Rafa decide to withdraw his interest in Barry and pursue another player such as Silva and leave Barry at Villa Park to face all the repercussions. Villa will 1. Lose their best player should the rift btw MON and Barry not heal 2. Lose out on the 15 million had MON actually let Barry leave when LFC offered 15. Surely this does not bode well for Villa, and would affect their start to the season with all these internal strife. Your thoughts?
Kop yourselves on - July 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
SIMON..
Last weeks quote from you…..”we will pay what we want for Barry and Crouch will be sold at £15m because we control the deals and clubs will do what we say” … If you dont remember go and check…
YOU REALLY ARE A TIT AREN’T YOU. Typicla koppite Gobshite Prick proved WRONG AGAIN!!!!!
Jokers who see the world through rose tinted glasses - July 9th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
MON crys to the press about liverpool leaking the story about Barry coming to liverpool, when in all truth the story was first published in the midlands press and not the Echo which MON has branded as Liverpools way of tapping up players, MON said to Rafa that its was ok for him to talk to Barry, then when the story leaked he realised that he was going to look bad to the fans for letting him leave so he then went about slagging Rafa to save his own skin, i presonally don’t care which way this transfer goes, as for gerrard tapping Barry up, get used to it, this is the way of the world, you will not get the 18 mil you think he is worth, and if you dont budge you will be left with a player who doesn’t want to be there any short in the pocket, enjoy the bottom 10 this season.
villa are letting themselves down - July 9th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
MON say’s he is going to take the high road, and that rafa is out of order for using the press, then he goes and uses the press at any given opportunity to strengthen his position, MON is the pot calling the kettle Black, get a grip, realise that your only good player want’s to leave, oh sorrry i forgot ashley young i wander how much longer he’ll be with you.
Kop yourselves on - July 9th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
We are about to rob you scousers…Oh the Irony……
BTW crouch ONLY £8.5 m plus add - ons.
Barry £18 straight cash within 1 year….how bad a business man is the fat waiter. LOL
josh - July 9th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
gareth barry has been a brilliant severnt to villa but no wonder he wants to leave with fans like that and a very childish manager , if arsenal came in with a £15m bid for ashley young he would make his mind up in a second any of villas players would leave to join a big four club and dont say they wuldnt cuz they wuld !
The next player to leave Villa - July 9th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Now knows that he has to leave Villa on Martin’s terms…result…Villa get a bigger transfer fee and player power is stifled… a more stable and successful club resulting in our elevation =in the league
Liverpool….overpay for players, mercenary attitude, poor management and Prima Donna culture….the spice boys live on…shite house fans on the rob from each other and a club on the brink of bankruptcy…UTV
Manc Best - July 9th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Villa are shit…End of
Kop yourselves on - July 9th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
YOU CANNOT AFFORD BARRY YOU ARE BROKE>>>>>>>> JUST THINK IF you pay over the odds for barry, in 12 months time you will have to finance 20m for torres (still owe this much to banks for this deal), 18m for mash (Still owe this to banks for this deal). and 9m for barry…all at the same time and try and finance a new stadium…and you currently loose £2m a WEEK!…check out your last accounts..Muppets the lot of you.
villa fans are idiots - July 9th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
barry has sweated blood and guts for villa and i guarntee he will be booed by the shower of ungratefull GREEDY wankers…enjoy your mid table finish next season.LOOSERS
Kop yourselves on - July 9th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Idiots about to get £18m for a just above average player. Wow what idiots.
Ben - July 9th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Barry is right to want to play CL footie! he did nothing wrong, hopefully he will be our player soon!
Rafa's Merry-go-Round - July 9th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Letter from MON to Raffle Beneathus and his Liverpool yankee doodle owners also translated into Pigeon Spanish/Scouse/Yankee so that all parties can understand the contents.
Dear Mr Beneathus,
Following your recent text messages with various offers for G Barry, we are placing OUR terms for the sale of this player in Oxford English to ensure that you and your employers and advisors have a full grasp of our requirements.
1. The asking price is £18,000,000 to be paid in full within 12 months of sale.
2. We do not want any make-weight reject players (especially Pennant).
Please only reply in writing by letter in English.
Kind regards
Martin O’Neill
Manager
PS - I enclose transalations in all appropriate languages as suggested by Mr Gerrard who advises his friends in the press that you are difficult to understand when you are talking. I’m surprised that you can understand him anyway!
1874AVFC - July 9th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
God, there are some tossers on this site - “Manc best”, time for bed and don’t forget to kiss Mummy and Daddy goodnight before you go.
I disagree with all this MON crying to the press to stir things up originally - with 2 games left and a chance of finishing ahead of Everton do you really think he would of done that to his own team? The bottom line is we don’t have to sell Barry as he is contracted for 2 more years so why shouldn’t we try and get every penny out of a club willing to buy him? Everyone on here would want there club to do exactly the same, yes? Also if Liverpool do withdraw from this saga, I believe he will possibly go to Arsenal and I would be quite happy for him to go for as “little” as £15M. I don’t think Liverpool have done themselves any favours in this situation (and some might say nor have Villa), and I just wish he would move on and we can concentrate on rebuilding without him.
Stevo - July 9th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
You miss the point, how in the name of god are players employees? These are club assests, like a computer or a piece of machinery.
Can you imagine your PC saying it doesn’t want to work on your desk but wants to work in the office over the road…….its crazy!
The sooner we resolve this issue the better the game will be
Pedro Idiota - July 9th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
These Villa fans are a right stupid bunch of monkeys
Rafa's House Maid! - July 9th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
I don’t see what all the fuss is about:
1. Team linked with a player (happens everyday)
2. Team say player not for sale (happens everyday)
3. Player from team trying to buy player gets excited (happens everyday)
4. Player himself gets excited (happens everyday)
5. Manager from team not wanting to sell gets excited (happens everyday)
6. Price inflates through the roof (happens everyday)
7. Teams at loggerheads over valuation (happens everyday)
8. Eventually player changes teams (happens everyday)
It makes no difference who is at fault, it is part and parcel of the game today and unfortunately every party claims innocence, when infact they all have a part to play.
The way i see it is:
1. Barry wants move
2. Liverpool want Barry
3. Villa get 15-18 Mill
EVERYONE’S A WINNER ( i suppose)
JOBO - July 9th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
I am going to make some unbiassed and honest comments - that most fans should agree with.
Firstly, if you do your own research and collect dates of publishing then you will find that the Barry/Liverpool saga emerged from the midlands press.
Secondly, who has been the most loyal player for AV over the last 10 years - Gareth Barry.
10 years of service means that this loyalty should have been repaid.
He loves Aston Villa - but wishes to play Champs League football.
The only person stopping this is MON who has only been at Villa for a couple of seasons. Is this fair on a player who has given everything for Villa.
I agree that Villa do not have to sell, but they are certainly holding Liverpool to ransom. I know this because MON said that Barry’s price should go up a few million because he was England captain - this was a petty thing to say. He’s just finding anything to up the price.
My verdict - MON has ruined a great relationship between Barry and Villa fans. I just hope you can forgive him one day - now he won’t even get a testimonial.
Steve the Baggie - July 9th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Savo Milosowhatsit once said, “All Villa fans are a bunch of dirty backward smelly kunts and stink like cat piss”
He’s right, Villa fans from the west of birmingham are generally known to finger cats, there was at least four at our school who were renowned for that behaviour
Also…..
Martin O’Niell is a whiney pikey gyppo, it’s a well known fact amoung the league managers association and when in attendence, most, if not all other managers pretend to hold their noses whenever he walks past. Alex Ferguson has been known to give him a boot up the arse to help him on his way from time to time.
Mrs B O'Niell - July 9th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I’m Martin’s wife and believe me, I steer well cleer of that dump where my husband works, it’s full of tramps and smelly cat fingerers
Also, just because my Husband is a pikey, there’s no need to think he smells like a Villa fan, he’s only been there two years and as of today, his twinky still bears the fresh aroma of our goat ‘Tina’… not as some would have you believe, a cat.
I hope this clears things up.
Charlie - July 9th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Meeeowwww ddoor daaaarrr waaaar mii miiooooowwwww
Charlie says “My arse is killing me since my last visit to the bullring”
Sweary Bert - July 9th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Villa have won the league once in the last 100 years, what makes you think they will win it next season?
Rafa's Merry-go-Round - July 9th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Now I know what the FC stands for after Liverpool - Former Champions
Villa fan - July 9th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
OK. Maybe we made a mistake by expecting anything other a lack of respect and no class from the Bin Dippers but it was not always the way. Liverpool of old used to conduct themselves better - a sign of desperation perhaps.
What shocked and then annoyed Villa fans - and most neutrals still haven’t worked out - is that Barry slagged off the club and the Manager in order to engineer his ‘dream move’ but with the Bin Dippers still unable to scrap together the fee he still won’t hand in a transfer request because the greedy git wants a £2-3m payout. That is why he has spoiled the relationship he had with the fans - he will get loads when he comes back to VP (whether he plays or sits in the stands).
By the way, don’t go overboard on the fantastic servent crap - three times he has been talked out of a move by an offer of more money and in the last 2 years MO’N has turned his career around from (above)average premiership player to being an England regular.
The same player who was spotted going nowhere in Brighton reserves as a kid and protected from the media and himself when a teenager - passed his test age 17 on the Thursday and done for drink-driving on the Saturday. He has done well enough from his time at VP - time to move on if the price is right. We make that decision not the Bin Dippers.
By the way - for the Tesco Carrier bags on here - do one. Your childish ramblings are embarassing.
VillaCasual - July 9th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
rite then
first of all, steve the baggie, who the fuck r yu
u can start slaggin villa off when you have a better team than us, which is never going to happen, so fuck off
secondly, calling us brummies cat fingerers, yeh ok, go to bed you twats.
as for the scousers, they can have barry. if he wants to go to a team where hes going to benchwarm, fair play, roll on the 18 mill.
another thing, he can have his house robbed, like his bum boy stevie g and the rest of the clown squad.
and as to say villa are shit, look in the fuckin mirror, liverpool cheat to win, gerrard the divin prick, then whinges to get his own way, how about stop bein a tit
so would all u scousers stop thinkin ur the best team in the world, cuz ur not, and not even close. so i hope u rot next season
o good luck with the “title challenge” u try n put up every season
UTV SOTC + the scouserS!!
Liam - July 10th, 2008 at 1:30 am
I’m not sure where all the animosity is coming from, but……
Various Villa fans on here have stated things like:
-Barry isn’t that good
-We don’t need the money
-Liverpool are broke
-Liverpool are on the way down.
-Rafa talks to the media too much
-MON is a better person and manager than Rafa
And that seems to be the gist of complaints, so here are my responses:
-So why value him so highly?
-same as above
-Yet still finsihed above Villa and are favourites to do so again with no money(especially with one of Villas best players)
-same as above
-I’m pretty sure that u will find MON has said alot mroe and alot more often
-Look at their teams and who the players actually want to play for…..
Let the man have his move, Villa can charge what they want, but why the anger??? Is it a case of a lover scorned??? Who cares if Barry has said to the media he wants to leave, MON has been saying something about it every day, is only one of them allowed to share his thoughts???
Rafa may have publicly stated his prices for players but as any sensible business man will dohe overpriced them in anticipation of negotiation(like with Crouch).
Or people question 10m for Scott Carson……the same price that MON and Villa agreed to pay for him last year in the loan agreement…….
Still Seeing Stars - July 10th, 2008 at 7:30 am
We are looking at a deal that was actually a good thing for the player. Gareth is good, not great but he can improve, even if its for another 3 years.
Liverpool gained by making the move, yes even paying that much, but we are all jumping the gun here, same way when we ran up Torres. Overall the season will decide if it was a good or bad move. That’s how the league has existed for soooooooooooooo long.
Anyway, no offence to any fans here but what the player, manager or club decides, lets have it in good faith. Enjoy the football next season, and may the better club talk about achievements come the end of the season.
5 times - July 10th, 2008 at 7:39 am
You don’t like losing your best player…end of.
5 times - July 10th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Let’s call all Scousers robbers, that’s hilarious….NOT…..how 70’s of you all. Move with the times you idiots.
1874AVFC - July 10th, 2008 at 8:42 am
5 times - same as you wouldn’t like losing Torres to say, Chelsea? Sol you would lie back and just let him go? I will also apologise on behalf of all the “children” on this page - there is no need for slagging teams and supporters just for the sake of it (manc best and baggie steve take note).
As I said in a previous, let Barry go and lets hope we can get near to the £18M that MON wants. Personally I would welcome £15M and Finnan - think he is a solid defender, much like Carragher used to be before he seemed to move up another level.
AussieRed - July 10th, 2008 at 9:56 am
9 1874AVFC 07.09.08 at 3:46 pm Simon,
How can you say MON has acted like a prick. Demand and supply, Liverpool want Barry, we didn’t want to sell him, so Liverpool have to pay what we want. Suppose you were ok with Benitez wanting £10M for Carson? Pot and Kettle come to mind…..
Yes, we are making a huge profit on Barry, but O’Neill is sticking to his guns and proving we aren’t a selling club, unless the scousers (or any of the supposed Top 4) are mug enough to pay £6M over the odds for an average player.
MON is being a prick because he is making it all public and turning on a servant of the club.
1874AVFC 07.09.08 at 6:17 pm God, there are some tossers on this site - “Manc best”, time for bed and don’t forget to kiss Mummy and Daddy goodnight before you go.
I disagree with all this MON crying to the press to stir things up originally - with 2 games left and a chance of finishing ahead of Everton do you really think he would of done that to his own team? The bottom line is we don’t have to sell Barry as he is contracted for 2 more years so why shouldn’t we try and get every penny out of a club willing to buy him? Everyone on here would want there club to do exactly the same, yes? Also if Liverpool do withdraw from this saga, I believe he will possibly go to Arsenal and I would be quite happy for him to go for as “little” as £15M. I don’t think Liverpool have done themselves any favours in this situation (and some might say nor have Villa), and I just wish he would move on and we can concentrate on rebuilding without him.
What you fail to realize is that when Liverpool and AV sorted out the loan deal for Carson, it had an option to buy with a 10 mil price, which was agreed upon. MON is pulling out of that and then making Rafa out to be the bad guy. He’s getting to be very good at that. Another way he’s holding Liverpool to ransom is that he wanted Crouch, and he wants Finnan, but yet wanted their deals to be seperate. Shows how selfish he is.
1874AVFC - July 10th, 2008 at 10:09 am
AussieRed,
I see your point, but MON is only “turning” on Barry, because it was him that talked him into staying at Villa, and it is him that has turned him into a regular England player - he is still contracted to Villa and was offered a double your wages to stay, so where does Barry get all this “MON has done nothing to keep me at Villa” from?
Surely with Carson, we had an “option” to buy which means we have a choice to buy him at that price and we declined it. I think whatever happens between now and the 31 August, neither club or manager would have come out of it very well and hopefully we can put it all behind us and move forward.
lfc - July 10th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
if MON was that fussed about keeping his captain he would talked to gareth rather than talk a load of shite at the euros.
when garry lineker (spelling) said to MON what is the GB situation he said…
liverpool have been in contact with us over GB, illegally if you ask me and GB has told me he would consider a move but i will talk with GB when i go back…
WHEN I GO BACK
lets not forget that was the second day of the tournament so MON is putting his captain and best player behind sitting in a studio boring every one to death.
No wonder barry wants to go maybe his manager will actually want to talk to him!
1874AVFC - July 10th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
lfc,
Even though he had spoken to him before GB went to Trinidad and Tobago and offered to double his wages (although he is still contracted to Villa for 2 years). You can have him, keep your bench warm for a season, drop out of the England setup, just so that he can make a few cameo appearances in the Carling Cup. I’d rather have Alonso than him, what is Benitez up to?
Tony Clayton - July 11th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
You miss the point, how in the name of god are players employees? These are club assests, like a computer or a piece of machinery.
Can you imagine your PC saying it doesn’t want to work on your desk but wants to work in the office over the road…….its crazy!
The sooner we resolve this issue the better the game will be
ARE YOU INSANE!!!
Players are people first and employees second! They are only ‘assets’ in the human resource sense of the word which is completely different to way non-sentient physical objects can be described as assets!
Can you imagine if a pimp came along with your daughter one day and tried to tell you your daughter was his asset first and a person with human rights second. Are you telling me you wouldn’t flip???
The bottom line is that managers have far too much sway in European sports. Some eg. Mourinho are even considered better than the players that play for them yet, get this - its the PLAYER who puts the ball in the net, makes a save or flicks the ball over an opponents head!
This is what confuses me so much, player like Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods are awesome and (magically!) they don’t need a manager to boss them around. Sure Woods plays an individual sport but believe me he does have a manager and Jordan, well the truth is he consulted more with his manager rather than actually taking orders! To me that’s the difference, here managers can only operate if they’re allowed to give orders, if they actually have to listen to what players think they go beserk cause then the might have to admit to the possibility that there are players out there that know more about football than they do!
As for your comments Stevo, saying that about people is so way out of line that its difficult to comprehend what’d make you feel you have to say stuff like that.