“Forget challenging the Big Four - let’s look to the future” says Tottenham boss

by stresster on July 18th, 2008

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Out of all the Premier League teams outside the ‘Big Four’, the bookmakers expect Tottenham to be the strongest next season. Indeed, you can bet on who will finish highest out of the remaining sixteen clubs, with firms making Juande Ramos’ men the overwhelming favourites, despite the possibility of losing Dimitar Berbatov and Robbie Keane this summer.

However, the Daily Telegraph reports that Spurs’ Spanish manager is not expecting his team to trouble the top teams next season, claiming that there is a long journey ahead for his squad before they can be playing in the Champions League (unless they join Man United or Liverpool of course). Nice to see a manager with his finger on the pulse rather than living in cloud cuckoo land.

Ramos said: “We have to be realistic. It’s clear the top four are made up of Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

“They are the teams who in the last few years have taken the Champions League places and it is very difficult to break into that group.

“You have to understand that this club is on the stock market and we have to submit our accounts at the end of the season.”

Assuring the White Hart Lane faithful that they would have a competitive squad next season, he said: “The idea is to sign good young players with quality and a good future and if we get good offers for older players to study them to see if it benefits the club.

To think that Martin Jol suggested last season that his Spurs side were targetting a top-four finish, when in actual fact, they failed to finish in the top-half. It appears that Tottenham fans will have to be patient over the next season or two, with the club building for the future rather than trying to hastily assemble an ageing squad. Tottenham fans, are you happy to wait for glory?

{ 13 comments read them or add one }

George - July 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

No we are not..Spend big now.Who are ever going to challenge them otherwise.
Spurs Dude - July 18th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

All Spurs fans know that we are not going to finish in the top 4 EVER…..
Every time we look like we might get there, we go and sell our best players to the competition.
Granted, you can’t keep an unhappy player, it’s counter productive to him and the club, but for Christ sake, why sell to one of the top4. Even if it means losing a bit off the value, sell abroad….If a player is that good, there’ll be interest elsewhere…..
denboy - July 18th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Today was the future.
~SPURDABOYZON - July 18th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz,

It the other part of his interview he said he is targeting a top 4 finish but the long term succuess must be considered as well!

but that would have ruined your article if you had mention that bit, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

seriously im falling alseep
Kieran - July 18th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

I agree with you George, the top four will only keep making more money unless another team catches them now……Plus, I doubt JR will be here any longer than 2 years if we don’t make it.

Spend, outbid, tap-up, illegally approach, and don’t sell Keano!!
gettingthereslowly - July 18th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

well whats new then if you loose your best two strikers you know your e not going to be up there challenging for a top spot but they should be able to adress this problem and find someone who knows where the net is they still need to qualify for europe otherwise no way will they attract the quality players, ramos is trying to get better odds so he can have a flutter and save face at the same time .(clever)
davspurs - July 18th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

SPURS DUDE YOUR SPOT ON THE ONE THING THATS NOT BEEN SAID IS WE ARE SIGNING PLAYERS UNDER FALSE PRETENSES WHEN WE SIGNED MODERIC WE HAD KEANE AND BERBATOV FOR HIM TO WORK WITH AND DOS SANTOS EXPECTED THE SAME NO WNDER PLAYERS ARE FAILING TO INPRESS LIKE KABOUL WHEN HE CAME HE THOUGHT HE HAD ENGLANDS NUMBER ONE IN GOALS WHEN HE WAS ENGLANDS NUMBER SIX SO LETS STOP BUYING TALENTED PLAYERS FOR UTD AND THE REST AND BLOOD THE KIDS OTHER WISE WE ARE GOING TO BE A LAUGHING STOCK . WHAT GOMES IS THINKING GOD ONLY NOSE. HE LEFT A CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TEAM AND COME TO A TEAM WITH 5 SPOT AMBITIONS I THINK RAMOS IS HAVING A DIG AT LEVY AND THE BOARD HERE WE HAVE DONE WAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR THREE SEASONS DROPPED ROBBO AND BOUGHT A TOP 4 KEEPER AND NOW WERE SELLING A TOP 4 ATTACK CRAZY. IF SPURS HAVE LOW AMBITIONS HOW COME THE HAVE HIGH PRICES.
Spurs Dude - July 18th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

DAVSPURS….. Have you seen the comments from the twat WILL THE GOONER on TRIBAL. Reckons that we’re both giving it the BIG I AM….What a TOSSER!!!!!.
I dread to think what the team will look like on the 16th AUG.
I suppose that we have to try and show a bit of trust in JR. He’s not got the mentality of a loser, I’m assuming(praying) that he has players lined up to replace BERBS and KEANE.
You’re right though, Modric and Gio must be wondering what they’ve let themselves in for ?????
Sean - July 18th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

I read the full article - your editing is cvery contentious.
He actually said that the goal is to break into the top four, and that not to aspire to doi this, before the season even starts would be unjustifiable.
You select quates in such a way as to suggest that he was stating categorically before the season even starts that there is no hope of doing this this year -and then you fill in your own comments suggesting that this tendentious formulation of yours is indeen the only viable interpretation.
You are wrong and mischevious.
Bobby - July 18th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

Yes, you are wrong and mischevious, you little tyke. Like a feral child from a mountain tribe who seeks to steal the fruit from his ugly grandmother’s Bobo tree. Curse you!!
Piers - July 18th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

All supporters of all clubs natuarally want success for their beloved team - and correctly so. However there is also the case of “being realistic”. Optimism is all well and good, but to make any sense, it has to be realistic. Of course there are the odd “huge” surprises from time to time, but they really are few and far between and vary rarely, if ever, repeated the following year.
So as a adoring Spurs fan, I realise that Spurs will not win the Premiership next season. My optimism can only go so far. However I do actually believe before every single game that we can win it. Well I suppose if we did that 30 odd times, then we would actually win the title ……. there we go, off on another unrealistic optimistic dream, but hey it is fun to dream.
So the article asks if Tottenham fans are happy to wait…… well I do not think it is a case of being happy to wait when there actually is no alternative. Again it comes back to being realistic. Yes Spurs could break into the top 4, but not the top 2. At the end of the day this sport is all about money, and realistically speaking the clubs that spend the most, win the most. So until Spurs can outbuy Man Utd and Chelsea, they will not be finishing above them. As for Arsenal and Liverpool, well yes, we should be able to starting from next season, it just depends whether it is next season, or the next, or the next…. or the next.
Either way, bearing in mind that there are only 4 possible cups to be won in any one season, and that all too often one club will win more than one of them, then for every fan of every club to expect to win something is again, completely unrealistic.
However it is of course only natural for a fan to want their team win, and therefore this will inevitably mean that most fans will have to wait, and wait, so you may as well be happy doing it. !!!!!
stone hards nightmare - July 18th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

dream on u wank, u can never finish above arsenal or even liverpool for that matter
Sean - July 18th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

Bobby -
You sum it up perfectly.
Oh how these urchins need a ‘cyber-spanking’ for stealing our precious time with their misleading titles and naughtily edited articles.
Obviously, this is just ‘The Internet’ - the Twilight of Champions has been initiated over a phone line - tres triste, a mon avis.

George - July 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

No we are not..Spend big now.Who are ever going to challenge them otherwise.

Spurs Dude - July 18th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

All Spurs fans know that we are not going to finish in the top 4 EVER…..
Every time we look like we might get there, we go and sell our best players to the competition.
Granted, you can’t keep an unhappy player, it’s counter productive to him and the club, but for Christ sake, why sell to one of the top4. Even if it means losing a bit off the value, sell abroad….If a player is that good, there’ll be interest elsewhere…..

denboy - July 18th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Today was the future.

~SPURDABOYZON - July 18th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz,

It the other part of his interview he said he is targeting a top 4 finish but the long term succuess must be considered as well!

but that would have ruined your article if you had mention that bit, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

seriously im falling alseep

Kieran - July 18th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

I agree with you George, the top four will only keep making more money unless another team catches them now……Plus, I doubt JR will be here any longer than 2 years if we don’t make it.

Spend, outbid, tap-up, illegally approach, and don’t sell Keano!!

gettingthereslowly - July 18th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

well whats new then if you loose your best two strikers you know your e not going to be up there challenging for a top spot but they should be able to adress this problem and find someone who knows where the net is they still need to qualify for europe otherwise no way will they attract the quality players, ramos is trying to get better odds so he can have a flutter and save face at the same time .(clever)

davspurs - July 18th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

SPURS DUDE YOUR SPOT ON THE ONE THING THATS NOT BEEN SAID IS WE ARE SIGNING PLAYERS UNDER FALSE PRETENSES WHEN WE SIGNED MODERIC WE HAD KEANE AND BERBATOV FOR HIM TO WORK WITH AND DOS SANTOS EXPECTED THE SAME NO WNDER PLAYERS ARE FAILING TO INPRESS LIKE KABOUL WHEN HE CAME HE THOUGHT HE HAD ENGLANDS NUMBER ONE IN GOALS WHEN HE WAS ENGLANDS NUMBER SIX SO LETS STOP BUYING TALENTED PLAYERS FOR UTD AND THE REST AND BLOOD THE KIDS OTHER WISE WE ARE GOING TO BE A LAUGHING STOCK . WHAT GOMES IS THINKING GOD ONLY NOSE. HE LEFT A CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TEAM AND COME TO A TEAM WITH 5 SPOT AMBITIONS I THINK RAMOS IS HAVING A DIG AT LEVY AND THE BOARD HERE WE HAVE DONE WAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR THREE SEASONS DROPPED ROBBO AND BOUGHT A TOP 4 KEEPER AND NOW WERE SELLING A TOP 4 ATTACK CRAZY. IF SPURS HAVE LOW AMBITIONS HOW COME THE HAVE HIGH PRICES.

Spurs Dude - July 18th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

DAVSPURS….. Have you seen the comments from the twat WILL THE GOONER on TRIBAL. Reckons that we’re both giving it the BIG I AM….What a TOSSER!!!!!.
I dread to think what the team will look like on the 16th AUG.
I suppose that we have to try and show a bit of trust in JR. He’s not got the mentality of a loser, I’m assuming(praying) that he has players lined up to replace BERBS and KEANE.
You’re right though, Modric and Gio must be wondering what they’ve let themselves in for ?????

Sean - July 18th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

I read the full article - your editing is cvery contentious.
He actually said that the goal is to break into the top four, and that not to aspire to doi this, before the season even starts would be unjustifiable.
You select quates in such a way as to suggest that he was stating categorically before the season even starts that there is no hope of doing this this year -and then you fill in your own comments suggesting that this tendentious formulation of yours is indeen the only viable interpretation.
You are wrong and mischevious.

Bobby - July 18th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

Yes, you are wrong and mischevious, you little tyke. Like a feral child from a mountain tribe who seeks to steal the fruit from his ugly grandmother’s Bobo tree. Curse you!!

Piers - July 18th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

All supporters of all clubs natuarally want success for their beloved team - and correctly so. However there is also the case of “being realistic”. Optimism is all well and good, but to make any sense, it has to be realistic. Of course there are the odd “huge” surprises from time to time, but they really are few and far between and vary rarely, if ever, repeated the following year.
So as a adoring Spurs fan, I realise that Spurs will not win the Premiership next season. My optimism can only go so far. However I do actually believe before every single game that we can win it. Well I suppose if we did that 30 odd times, then we would actually win the title ……. there we go, off on another unrealistic optimistic dream, but hey it is fun to dream.
So the article asks if Tottenham fans are happy to wait…… well I do not think it is a case of being happy to wait when there actually is no alternative. Again it comes back to being realistic. Yes Spurs could break into the top 4, but not the top 2. At the end of the day this sport is all about money, and realistically speaking the clubs that spend the most, win the most. So until Spurs can outbuy Man Utd and Chelsea, they will not be finishing above them. As for Arsenal and Liverpool, well yes, we should be able to starting from next season, it just depends whether it is next season, or the next, or the next…. or the next.
Either way, bearing in mind that there are only 4 possible cups to be won in any one season, and that all too often one club will win more than one of them, then for every fan of every club to expect to win something is again, completely unrealistic.
However it is of course only natural for a fan to want their team win, and therefore this will inevitably mean that most fans will have to wait, and wait, so you may as well be happy doing it. !!!!!

stone hards nightmare - July 18th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

dream on u wank, u can never finish above arsenal or even liverpool for that matter

Sean - July 18th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

Bobby -
You sum it up perfectly.
Oh how these urchins need a ‘cyber-spanking’ for stealing our precious time with their misleading titles and naughtily edited articles.
Obviously, this is just ‘The Internet’ - the Twilight of Champions has been initiated over a phone line - tres triste, a mon avis.

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