Hamburg scared off from Liverpool raid: Rafa said £16m, who is he kidding?
by jakepjohnson on August 7th, 2008
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Hamburg, looking to regroup after suffering the loss of Rafael van der Vaart to Real Madrid, enquired about one of Liverpool’s squad players, but were scared off by Rafa Benitez’s ridiculous valuation.
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As Anfield co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are still refusing to bail Rafa out with extra funds for Gareth Barry, the Spaniard needs to sell off some of his dead-wood squad players. Hamburg came sniffing around Dirk Kuyt, the Holland international. However, they ran off to look at other targets after Liverpool vastly overvalued the player to the tune of a stunning £16 million:
Hamburg coach Martin Jol tried to sign former Feyenoord striker Kuyt for Tottenham nearly three years ago and launched another attempt after selling Rafael van der Vaart to Real Madrid. But the Bundesliga club soon dropped their interest after being told the fee was £16m.
Daily Mail
Liverpool paid Feyenoord £10m for the Dutchman two years as he arrive from Feyenoord, scoring 25 goals in 92 appaearance, so a £6m price hike is a bit steep for the 28-year-old.
Rafa is now stuck with the hard-working striker cum-midfielder and has a great big hole where money for Gareth Barry should be.
With Rafa also placing huge price tags on other players heads - £10m for Carson, £15m for Peter Crouch, £18m for Xabi Alonso - is he slightly deluded as to how good his squad really is? If he were to have made realistic demands, he would have sold Kuyt and Alonso and manged to raise enough for Barry. Instead he is without the England international and stuck with two players who are undervalued as players and overvalued as transfer targets.
Do Liverpool fans think that Rafa has made realistic valuations and I just don’t understand how good his players are? Or has he just gone a bit crazy in demanding so much for players he does not seem to want?
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Anonymous - August 7th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
does rafa think everybody else is stupid?
surely he is trying to improve the quality of his squad by buying better players, so why is he putting ridiculous price tags on players he is trying to flirt and then expecting to pay less for the ones he wants??
billy - August 7th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
To be honest he should be worth less than what he was when Liverpool bought him he hasn’t exactly set the place on fire with his goals and thats why they bought him.
Infact most people would say he’s been a flop since he arrived at anfield, especially as they bought him to score goals.
Rafas md i wouldnt pay over 4 million for kuyt.
fred - August 7th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
So Barry isn’t overpriced at £18m? and Tevez is worth £32m? Adebayor worth £34m? do me a favour. For once we’re not being bent over a barrel for players we have no need to sell just so we can fork out the money on a player we don’t need to buy. Keep Alonso, keep Kuyt and leave Barry at Villa - sorted.
DAZ - August 7th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Typical robbing scouse bastards.
Dom - August 7th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Your an utter idiot. Kuyt is def worth around 16mil.
He was amoung the best players for holland which would have boost his valuation. Ontop of that he is one of the hardest working players alive, and gets goals exactly when they are needed. And with his new position out wide he has found himself. We are yet to see the best of him and this season we will. If we would have sold him i would have been disapointed to see him go.
And JAKEPJOHNSON, the quality of Kuyt is underated, especially by your slanderous post. Which is the reason why you probaly earn a reasonable wage, and write these nonesense articles, and why Kuyt earns more in a week than you do in a year.
Its also the difference between you writing this and him not even bothering to read it!
What D’ya think about that then!!
Tony - August 7th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Has it occured to any of you that Rafa doesn’t want to sell him one week before the season starts, unless he gets enough money to buy a good replacement?
He’s not spectacular, but he’s the best choice on right midfield at the moment. His workrate is incredible, he can score and create goals, he is better on defense than any other winger, and he has a good mentality that is good for the team.
He’s not worth £16 million, Rafa knows that. But it will cost a lot of money to replace him.
zekk67 - August 7th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
This IS ridiculous… Dirk Kuyt is ONLY worth 16million? Come on, Barry is already valued at 18m, much more than he’s worth, I may add. Kuyt should get us at least 20m. If clubs are not interested then buzz off. Liverpool FC is not a club that others can sell their players at a higher price OR others can buy from at a ridiculously low price. We have already done stupid deals already this transfer season (Crouch at 10m, but well worth 20+m, Danny Guthrie 2.5m, but could have been valued at 5+m, Scott Carson, 10m price agreed by Villa, would have been a bargain for them), and thanks to the media who constantly undermined us by setting their own low prices for our players (Pennant 4m, Voronin 2m, Benayoun 7m, Finnan 1m, and lastly Xabi Alonso, which the media accused Rafa of overpricing when Arses stated their interest with less than 10m). Stop stating your own opinion like it was some objective news article and let the professionals and the football clubs handle it.
RJ - August 7th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Fred & Tony = Men with sense!
I swear to god some of us liverpool fans are two faced bastards constatly criticising rafa, yet when we win things ur strait on his balls. Im pleased he hasnt made any first team signings as we need stability in a fragile period. Its obvious he doesnt want to sell Kuyt but its the case of i sayiing 16 mill would be an offer to good to refuse
Phil Kirwin - August 7th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
The price was intended to scare Hamburg off. End of.
lol - August 7th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Exactly what I was thinking Tony. Rafa isn’t in favour of Kuyt leaving, as he is a crucial part of the team. Just read interviews from other 1st team members were they praise Kuyt for the work his does on the right, and how it enables the likes of Torres and Gerrard more chances on goal.
It’s pretty simple really, the valuation is at 16m because Rafa doesn’t mind at all if Kuyt stays, but if someone matches the valuation, we can go out and improve with other players. (Silva?)
Anonymous - August 7th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
your missing the point
no, Barry isnt worth 18million, keane isnt worth 20mil. But, they are/were under contract at clubs that didnt want to or need to sell them so they could put whatever price they wanted on their heads.
THEY were in the position of power, not liverpool. if liverpool have to sell to buy, then they are are gonna have to bite the bullet and accept fees lower than they could normally command
if however, like Phil Kirwin says, they didnt want to sell kuyt in the first place, then they did the right thing buy putting a ridiculous price on his head to warn off potential suitors. which is EXACTLY what villa have been doing with Barry
UWAT - August 7th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Kuyt maybe the hard working player who chips in with goals but he is not a natural wide man. I can see why Rafa is keeping him, but if he needs to sell to get Barry then why the hell not! I’d prefer to see Barry at Liverpool than Kuyt. Who would you guys rather see?
Kuyt + 8-10 M OR Barry?
Ridwaan - August 7th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Bloody fools!! cant u see that rafa is only doing that 2 scare off teams who targets our very best players. Indeed he is not willing 2 sell them both(alonso and kuyt) as we wud certainly suffer without them… As for Barry, he’s a great player and i think that the hicks should get on with their loan as we dnt want 2 lose our best players. And when the loan gets through and Barry seals a lfc contract, rafa should then consider deals for voronin, itanje, pennant(and maybe benayoun) which may rise up to 20m(if benayoun is included). He can then go for silva or some world class winger and we wud b ready 4 our 19th title.
Wise plan, what do u say????
Lee Delaney - August 7th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
So UWAT, U’d rather have Barry when we already have Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, Lucas and Plessis, at the expense of Kuyt, when we only have Benayoun (who, however great, isn’t an out-n-out winger) and Pennent (who is probably about to leave)? I think Barry will be an excellent signing but we need Kuyt much more. Back to the point, in what signing has Rafa undervalued players? Keane 20m at 28? Barry at 18m at 27 and having never played European football and about a dozen caps? Also, your comment that ‘the Spaniard needs to sell off some of his dead-wood squad players’ shows how much of an idiot you are. Both the players you mentioned are first team players. Both establised international footballers, one of which has just performed excellently in a European Championship winning team, who where last season key to Liverpool’s best form. What about the fact that Kuyt probably played in more games than any other outfield player in the Liverpool team (except maybe the evergreen Jamie Carragher) last season? Please go back to the drawing board and throw away your anti-Liverpool psyche and try and write an article that will do nothing other than make a couple of Liverpool fans laugh at how pitiful your knowledge of football and journalism is.
Kamster - August 7th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Sell Kuyt, Voronin, Pennant, Finnan, Itanje for £25m add £10m from Hicks and Gillet - Buy David Sila and Barry and we will win the EPL. Although Kuyt is hardworking he his not up to the mark - the rest are deadwood and their places can be taken by our B team and allow Nemeth, Plessis, Darby, Spearing, El Zhar to come on when were 3 goals up and get valuable experience. We will then have a mix of old and young combining to form a spine for the future - Rafa is not far away but he needs to let Kuyt go - good but not good enough.
Ridwaan - August 7th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Bloody fools!! cant u see that rafa is only doing that 2 scare off teams who targets our very best players. Indeed he is not willing 2 sell them both(alonso and kuyt) as we wud certainly suffer without them… As for Barry, he’s a great player and i think that the hicks should get on with their loan as we dnt want 2 lose our best players. And when the loan gets through and Barry seals a lfc contract, rafa should then consider deals for voronin, itanje, pennant(and maybe benayoun) which may rise up to 20m(if benayoun is included). He can then go for silva or some world class winger and we wud b ready 4 our 19th title.
Wise plan, what do u say????
Ridwaan - August 7th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Bloody fools!! cant u see that rafa is only doing that 2 scare off teams who targets our very best players. Indeed he is not willing 2 sell them both(alonso and kuyt) as we wud certainly suffer without them… As for Barry, he’s a great player and i think that the hicks should get on with their loan as we dnt want 2 lose our best players. And when the loan gets through and Barry seals a lfc contract, rafa should then consider deals for voronin, itanje, pennant(and maybe benayoun) which may rise up to 20m(if benayoun is included). He can then go for silva or some world class winger and we wud b ready 4 our 19th title.
Wise plan, what do u say dr friends????
CY - August 7th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
A few points:
1. Im a liverpool fan.
2. Dirk kuyt ’s real worth is about 1.6 million
3. I wish Rafa could have just tricked others to buy him for 10 million cos that would make me laugh my ass off at the stupidity of the buying club
4. Rafa is not selling Kuyt for only ONEEEEEEEEEEEEE reason
5. Kuyt gives good blowjobs and hes gay with rafa.
End of story. (We dont need need hardworking strikers who cant cut it and turn into Right Backs)
billy - August 7th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
if hes has good has you lot say you wanna keep him then?
Hes not a winger he’s a tryer and thats about it.
heheheheheheheheehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he’s pooh
calvo - August 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Why doesnt Rafa just say that players like alonso,kuyt etc arent for sale.
rather than dream up ridiculous prices.if someone asked abt torres o gerrard he wud say straight away no.so maybe he does not require them but doesnt no there value.bcz kuyt is never worth 16m that is 4 sure.he is no more than a squad player.
dappa_viz - August 7th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Its all bolloks! Ur al bolloks lol
Anonymous - August 7th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Is Voronin ever going to leave?
Ticky - August 7th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Can’t even believe Rafa is even considering selling Dirk Kuyt. He’s the unsung hero of the Reds’ side right now. Okay, so he doesn’t score as many goals as he should, but no one works harder and he can make the right-hand side of mid-field his own this year. If the crowd get off his back and let him get on with his job, he’ll excell this year.
Sell Kuyt? Don’t make me laugh!
david lovell - August 7th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
…and do you not think that barry is over priced,treat unto others as they treat you ,or something like that as they say
Y.N.W.A. - August 8th, 2008 at 1:08 am
Makes perfect sense. For 16 mill, we could get a top quality winger to replace Kuyt. For 10 mill we could get diddly squat. Kuyt is a hard-worker, he tracks back, he’s a Holland regular, and he scores (occasional) goals from the wing. He’s worth 16 mill to us. If we don’t get 16 mill, we don’t sell. Furry muff.
jakepjohnson - August 8th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Lee Delaney: “Also, your comment that ‘the Spaniard needs to sell off some of his dead-wood squad players’ shows how much of an idiot you are. Both the players you mentioned are first team players. Both establised international footballers, one of which has just performed excellently in a European Championship winning team, who where last season key to Liverpool’s best form.”
If you noticed, I didn’t say that anyone in particular, including Kuyt, was “dead-wood”. So if my statement shows “how pitiful your knowledge of football and journalism is”, what light does your knee-jerk reaction shed you in?
Exactly.
Liverpool need to sell players to raise the ccash for Barry. That is simply what I stated. That and £16m for Kuyt, regardless of how well he performed last season, is terribly overpriced.