£230m Reasons Why Liverpool Are Yet to Win the Premier League
by vou_snipes89 on August 19th, 2009 570 words | 46 commentsGood money after bad?
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Since his arrival at Anfield in the summer of 2004, Rafael Benitez has proven himself as one of the best tacticians around, winning the Champions League in his first season and turning Liverpool FC into a prominent European force.
The Reds have also made steps closer to winning that illusive Premiership title under Benitez. The Kop faithful feel like it is just a matter of time before their 19 year wait comes to an end after finishing just four points behind Manchester United last season, and for many, playing the best football in the process.
However, in the last five years, the Spaniard has sold/released 76 players and brought in 75. Such a frequent change of personnel can only hamper a team’s hopes of building the required stability to be a serious title threat year after year.
Benitez’s signings share a striking resemblance to Cristiano Ronaldo’s free kicks; a successful one is outstanding but it may take five shockers to eventually achieve it.
The former Valencia boss has indeed made some superb signings but it often takes him a handful of average transfers before he splashes out on the real deal. It took Josemi, Jan Kromkamp, Antonio Barragan, Alvaro Arbeloa and Philipp Degen to finally sign a top class right back in Glen Johnson. We also saw the likes Peter Crouch, Craig Bellamy, Robbie Fowler and Fernando Morientes before Fernando Torres brought the solution to Liverpool’s striking problems.
Liverpool fans debate that financial instability at Anfield has been the reason behind their impotency to sign the best players, yet, in the last five years, ‘Rafa’ has spent a reported £230 million on transfers whereas Sir Alex Ferguson has spent around £175 million. Although Benitez has recovered £150 million of that sum, Ferguson has regained all but £10 million of his expenditure.
During his reign, Benitez has sold 18 of his own first team signings, of whom only Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia and Alvaro Arbeloa can be regarded as having successful spells.
Sir Alex Ferguson, in contrast, has sold only six signings made from 2004 onwards. His knack of acquiring players with ability then turning them into world class players is the defining difference between himself and Benitez. Players like Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra, Michael Carrick and Cristiano Ronaldo were brought to the club with strong reputations in their respective countries but, under the guidance of the Scotsman, have been nurtured into some of the best players in their positions. Ferguson’s patience and determination to stick with those who have not developed as quickly as others is a major factor behind his success of getting the best out of all of his squad members.
Over the summer, Benitez again failed to sign adequate cover for Fernando Torres. If ‘El Nino’ suffers a spell on the sidelines, not Andriy Voronin, Nabil El Zhar and David N’gog combined could provide a temporary solution upfront. Lack of finance cannot be an excuse in a summer which has seen Manchester United and Chelsea sign Michael Owen and Daniel Sturridge respectively, on free transfers.
While Liverpool fans should not hold this against their manager, or doubt their title credentials, Benitez’s failure to sign the right player first time around is evidently a contributing factor as to why they have not tasted Premier League glory during their current manager’s time in power.
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Bruce - August 19th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Some fair points. Rafa is still the man for the job but is he the manager who can work best within the financial constraints imposed on him by the American? The Yanks have to go!
RaNE - August 19th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
THEN BRING IN RAFEAL SOBIS WHO IS FREE
Can't Remember - August 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
And Sol Campbell is free and would do a better job than this Greek lout we are apparently going to spend 2m on. He couldn’t even make the grade at Rangers FFS
Steve - August 19th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Seriously, what a pointless article. The fact that Ferguson has had a flowing squad for 20 years, is completley different to Rafa’s 5 years.
Rafa came to Liverpool with 3 or 4 quality players, he had to build a whole new team…and its taken him 3 or 4 seasons because he doesnt have the money of Chelsea or United to spend. Ferguson already has the foundations, which is why he hasnt spent as much over this 5 year period.
Your talking about Ferguson turing playing into world class players…….., Look at Liverpool. Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia, Alvaro Arbeloa, Albert Riera, Pepe Reina. All of these players where no hope of making the Spain squad before joining Liverpool. We can go on….Mascherano…..since joining Liverpool hes the Argentine captain. Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel, two fantastic centre backs… did you here about these guys before Liverpool?
And the reason Liverpool havnt signed the right person first time round. Is basicly due to lack of funds. Your garenteed a few duds with the amount of money he is given.
peter - August 19th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Fair points but not being given the financial muscle of utd is the problem. i know the figures add up about the same but where we have had to buy second best (Torres exception) utd have been backed to buy the best. One other point Sturridge has signed for Chelsea
fer - August 19th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Why do people have little knowledge need to blog and have shitte opinions. stick to fapping to porn please.
Martin - August 19th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
You make a comparison between the amount of money that each Man U and Liverpool have spend on transfers compared to how much they re-couped…
Net outlays:
Liverpool = £80m
Man U = £10m
If you were to wind back to before this transfer window, the Net outlays would look more like
Liverpool = £100m
Man U = £100m
Now, given that Liverpool have closed the gap on Man U in a very big way from where they were 5 years ago…. this report, written just 2 months ago would be hailing Benitez as the more shrewd in the market.
It’s unfair to judge the current positions of each clubs net outlays as you dont know where each club will finish at the end of the season…. that will be the time to make these judgements and lets face it… Man U’s Net outlay only looks so good becouse of the recent sale of Lady Boy to Moneybags Madrid
K C ANG - August 19th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Steve is spot on, Rafa have been eyeing players that he need but most of the time he cannot get due to the bloody Americans – blame the person who had advised the ex-chairman to sell Liverpool FC to the ulterior motive $$$$ americans who out to make profit out of Liverpool FC who get their hands burnt by refusing to sell cos’ they wanted hugh mountain of $$$$$$$$$$ … typically americans othing is for free
LFC4Life - August 19th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Rafa wasn’t given that money right away, let alone 20 million pounds a year!
First, he was given a “shit”y squad to start with, except Gerrard and Carragher, Owen left the first year and Cisse’s purchase and Heskey’s sale were pre-arranged during Houllier’s time. Rafa’s funds have been in the 10-15 million pound range to buy 4-5 average players.
A team like Liverpool need to spend 20-30 million pounds a year for five years in order to see the right results in the future. Have a look at Chelsea – they have won two EPLs and have come close to the CL on 2-3 occasions.
Rafa was promised 20 million pounds + the proceeds of the Robbie Keane transfer money. Instead, the owners are giving the 1 finger salute to a manager, who can instantly find a job with the likes of Man City, Real Madrid, AC Milan.
We missed out on so many transfer deals because we were short by 1-2 million pounds (Simao, Alves, Milito, Vidic, Barry, Silva),
In the end, Rafa should be patient and wait for the Americans to leave the Club. A good example is Kevin Keagan. If he had patient with Man City, who knows he could still be managing Man City with a much improved team roster!
Cheers
Kop King - August 19th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
This could well be the shitiest article ever i mean raf had no choice nut to make so many change considering the team he had inherited and not to mention the state the youth set up was in before his arrival given time rafa is the man but some of you obviously either have a real lack of general understanding or really do believe in miracles.
The MAN - August 19th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
agree with you frenz..
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Kop King - August 19th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
LFC4Life you are spot on.
gaga - August 19th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Valid points on both sides of the fence, but rafa has spent alot of money on lots of bottom table players where he should have kept the money and got himself 1 or 2 class players. All these cheap free transfers etc is not really free considering the amount u pay in wages and up front fees.
Rafa has had some money, his biggest problem is being able to get the right player when he wants. Rafa is a fool for believing that he had X amount as a budget consider everyone knows liverpool are finanically bust with these yanks.
Of course he wasn’t going to have any money, the yanks got to pay back many millions. Something like 230 odd? The 60 million to refiniance the loan was more than likely rafa budget lol.
Next year will be the same again and again. Although who does he sell this time around to pay the yanks debts? Gerrard? Torres?
Liverpool need a mircale to win the title personally, they will again win nothing this year. Their squad will let them down in the end. No depth.
Adam Griffin - August 19th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
All valid points that we have heard a few times before. Rafa has spent plenty of money and been willing to let go of many players in order to try and get the balance right. I think most of the discussion, while interesting, is kind of moot. Who really cares about players that have been gone from the club for a number of seasons? The simple reality of the situation is that Benitez has ultimately put together a very competitive team that is capable of winning the title and in his time has produced Liverpool’s two best seasons in the history of the modern Premier League. It has cost, out of pocket, about 55 million quid. I think that’s just the reality of modern football. Comparisons to United and Fergie are also great to argue about but it’s hardly an insult to Benitez to suggest he has fallen short of possibly the most successful manager in the history of English league football. United’s sums on the transfer market are skewed by the sales of Ronaldo and the 10 million they got from Chelsea for a player who never even pulled on a United training shirt. Now if United win this season without Ronaldo then the comparison becomes much more relevant and all credit to the United manger. But if Liverpool actually muster enough guts and goals to top the table this season then almost all of these discussions, articles and web logs suddenly will start to look rather dusty and pointless.
Kida - August 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I dont get why we have to sit and read about how much money we have or dont have after 1 loss.
Why is every tom,dick and harry writing off Liverpool’s chances so early into the new season? We’ve played one game, and lost that game by 1 goal. Yet everyone is super quick at ramming there jabs down liverpool throats because of this. Man U only managed to get 1 goal (AT HOME) against a newly promoted Birmingham City, but no one has even mentioned anything about that or anything to do with Man U’s finance’s. Fair enough they WON the game, but not as convincingly as they would of a year ago or so…It winds me up, right to the core.
At the end of the day, the talking is done on the pitch! Not in club’s wallets or bank balance’s…
Liverpool Fans – FEAR NOT!! It aint over till the fat lady screams.
On another note, i do think Rafa let Robbie Keane go way to early. He should of kept his patience and gave him more games up front with Nando IMO.
Y.N.W.A
Donavan Ried - August 19th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
If Rafa had brought one quality sign four years he was here and one he could take a chance on we would have a even better time now …. Rafa has had the money but have failed to buy Quality players
gary - August 19th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
it doesnt matter how much money rafa has to spend because he will still play rubbish like lucas! even if he was given £200m to spend we still wouldn’t win the league ‘coz the stupid dope, after 5 years in charge, still doesn’t know how to defend a set-piece!
my prediction for this year:
WE WILL BE FIGHTIN IT OUT FOR 4TH WITH CITY
Vou - August 19th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
THis is spot on! Now im a Liverpool fan but i agree that if we made the right signing at the first time of asking we would be up their at the end of the season. I love Rafa to bits and noone could do a better job with the 11 out their but instead of eg signing Riera and Pennant why not blimmin sign DAVID SILVA to get it over and done with.
Good article, alot of Rafa lovers have to admit that he may need a sporting director
dave - August 19th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
rafa has mostly been good in the transfer market,he has made money on most signings,its just the yanks are not giving him it to spend,watch liverpool tonight,i beleive they will be much improved.watch it on the internet for free go to http://www.gamebetting.co.uk they have links to the game live.
Dave Sanders - August 19th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
rafa is a legend but hes not that smart in the transfer market
last year dont forget he wanted to sign barry and sell alonso!!
Jonny boy - August 19th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
“Benitez’s signings share a striking resemblance to Cristiano Ronaldo’s free kicks; a successful one is outstanding but it may take five shockers to eventually achieve it.”
LMFAO!!!
Jonesy - August 19th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
abit harsh on benitez i think. yes he has made some mistakes but we’re stronger than we have been for longer than i can remember
appledave - August 19th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
i agree with RaNE, rafael sobis is a legend.
Rafa is not competent - August 19th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Rafa has not been too good in terms of signing,furthermore not really players of good qualities dat fit in his pattern of playing in EPL,i dont think not getting enough funds to buy players should be his main execuse for not winning the league.Rafa need absolute sensitization on kind of players to buy.MUFC!!!
RaNE - August 19th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
HAS RAFA WALKED OUT OFF LIVERPOOLFC ?
Liverpool Press Office - August 19th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
No …Benitez is at Anfield right now
guillem balague muppet - August 19th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
rane thats all over the web betting has been suspended by some bookies
dave - August 19th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
rafa has money to spend,have you not realised that when he sold alonso it was for an undisclosed amount.and then aquilani was also an undisclosed amount.he will make a two shock signings before the window slams shut and get them for cheaper prices.i have found a website for links to watch the match v stoke tonight go to gamebetting.co.uk
SHHHHHHH - August 19th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
some people on here make me laugh rafa hasnt made any decent signings!!!!! fuckoff what about torres and alonso
Dave Dhindsa - August 19th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
The guy who’s published this story doesn’t have a proper handle on the game. This story is so shortsighted I wonder if he could actually read what he was writing!!
Makes me laugh how one can compare a succesful team (Man U) who need maybe one or two (Max) BIG money signings per season.
Remember it took SAF 8 yrs to sample success and he was given a bunch of money to spend.
Rafa has it all to do…..
- Acquired a very poor team
-Needed Millions just to build half decent strength in depth
-Without the resources of the other top 3
If he had been given 100’s of millions to spend in a couple of seasons i’m sure you’d see a team challenging on all fronts. Hang-on……!! Pool are doing that already with a modicum of success albeit no premiership thus far.
It’s all well stating what Rafa has spent but he has HAD to delve in the market and on average make at least 3/4 signings per season, with not a lot of money. He’s had to wheel and deal hence the time taken to build the team. I was hoping now that he has a nucleus of a very good side with decent stregnth in depth he’d move on and make a couple of world class signings. Unfortunately no! We’ve lost Xabi, but I’m sure this was on the proviso that Rafa would have the money accrued plus a good 20 million on top. It looks like the yanks have renaged on this. They’re a bunch of cheating deceiving, liars not fit for anything British!!!!!
Troy - August 20th, 2009 at 12:30 am
im not a liverpool fan but in general he is a great manager liverpool only finished out of the top 4 once in his time managing the club but he won the champs league that year which makes up for it what liverpool have is a manager that can get top 4 finish almost ever season with money issue
peter - August 20th, 2009 at 2:26 am
You are a d%$khead snipes 89, go back to red noses first five years at manu and tell me how much he spent compared to a certain liverpool manager at the time, and i do believe it took red nose six years to win a prem title back then as well so keep playing with yourself.
el nino - August 20th, 2009 at 4:22 am
liverpool win 4-0………….utd loose 1-0…………………..cheer up guys…………..!!!!!
nana - August 20th, 2009 at 7:06 am
in rafa we trust, #19definately this year.
THE CHOSEN ONE - August 20th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Very good points guys both ways but i`d tend to agree with Steve and back rafa.
His and other comments say it all.
However were I would give Rafa criticism is his inability to groom the youth players speedily for the first team. Its been 5 years now guys. A 19 year oil bought would be 24 now. there absolutely no excuse. Its our youth that should be our squad players now and we should only be making one big signing or two tops to improve the team.Rafa would of been told this if I was the owner of Liverpool Fc. One could argue he never had control of the academy but thats really a silly excuse. Yes a few are coming through like isua, plessis, spearing but how many would we feel comfortable with. thats were Sir red nose taggot beats him hands down. Look at John evans, the brazilian twins, that their striker. Thats 4 players already that id say are class and theres more. we shouldnt be spending a penny on a defender and rafa knows it. I dont blame the owners on that one at all. however our weakness from fans perspective are another wide right player and a striker, i think well be ok in the middle.
ok strikers, we have babel, kuyt, voronin, ngog,torress and gerrard, The weakest link is voronin, Do we really need a striker.If we sell him for 4 mil what can we buy for that.
the right midfield, we have kuyte, benyoum,babel (who is more effective there than the left ) and el zak whos the weakest but more direct. Shouldnt that be enough?
We have a team unit with good team spirit, we only need one addition per year whose class. We should be good enough and we are good enough. We rely on collective not individual.
just my opinion, yep owners hav`nt helped but give em a break we aint man city and rafa has done a good job.
millz - August 20th, 2009 at 10:04 am
rafa has turned less known players into world class
torres bought-25mill now worth 60mill+
alonso bought-10.5mill sold for 30mill
also the likes of cisse,baros,pongolle,garcia,traore and owen have gone downhill since leaving liverpool.
johnny barnes - August 20th, 2009 at 10:12 am
rafa has done e great job… The Moores are the ones who really screwed Liverpool… Liverpool are the most successful british team ever yet the likes of chelsea, Arsenal, Man u out sell our shirts world wide??? why is this?? why weren’t we better marketed in the 80’s when we had the greats lkike rush, beardsley and barnes et al??? why has it taken so many years for us to win the anything decent??, champs league… i think hollier brought players good enuf for the uefa but he could only take us so far… rafa has made the team we have now and has developed great players out of nothing… good i mean he has to be good if he made traore look half decent….
torres is a massive success, this wasn’t a sure thing that he would be a success here. i remember that people were saying that he would take 6 attempts to score a goal and his shooting was wild… yes he had the potential but he is now one of the best strikers in the world… that down to rafa…
i really believe Rafa loves liverpool, i mean thru everything he has still stuck in, when he could have gone to Madrid he chose liverpool… you can see it in his face when the kop sings his name… he will win us the league he is making liverpool a name to fear again…
and if he were sacked then were would that leave liverpool?? back in mid table again??? give the guy a 60mill budget and see what he does, this was the year to spend big, especially as chelsea and man u just seem to be weaker… buying johnson will prove to be a great signing and Aquilana is something a little bit special… so come on liverpool fans lets get behind our leader!!!
Donavan Ried - August 20th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Morning JB,THE CHOSEN ONE …..
THE CHOSEN ONE – August 20th, 2009 at 7:08 am …….”However were I would give Rafa criticism is his inability to groom the youth players speedily for the first team. Its been 5 years now guys. A 19 year oil bought would be 24 now. there absolutely no excuse. Its our youth that should be our squad players now and we should only be making one big signing or two tops to improve the team.” ……. You have this spot on ……. Why we fail to bring these young players though is anyones guest, but if needs to be rectified with all possible haste..
johnny barnes - August 20th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Donavan Reid the youth development has been a little worrying since Rafa has been at liverpool, we’ve had FA cup and League winning youth teams yet no one one has really come up. But with Insua last season and the likes of Ayala, (who i was mightily impressed with against stoke#), Spearing, El Zhar, Darby, Nemeth, Pacheco coming through and having an opportunity to really make a difference i think the future looks good.
I must admit that i would have liked to have kept both warnock and guthrie as they seem to be getting better…but the other youth players have not really made a difference any where else which proves that rafa was prob right not to bring any thru….
rafa ain’t perfect, i would love spearing to develop into the new gerrard and finghers crossed it will happen
SHHHHHHH - August 20th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
johnny barnes……………….you will be waiting a long long time for spearing to be the new gerrard
SHHHHHHH - August 20th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
DAVE DHINDSA …..SPOT ON GREAT SHOUT
THE CHOSEN ONE - August 20th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
thank you Donavan Ried
on spearing hell be a squad player come 30 unless we are bloke by then . Hes like david mellar ……average at best but may have some good nights.
Those that support wat rafa has done with the youth system should remember that it will now cost 10 million to buy a squad player. eg, that cammerole from i think stoke. Very average 10 mil. 5 of them in a squad and its 50 mil!!! We really need more youth. Its the only way forward. spotting the talent is an art, developing it is different.
And theres only one stevie g ………………..
THE CHOSEN ONE - August 20th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Donavan Ried we meet again nice one
barne and co
one knows how good a youth player is with the price tag put on his head.
I rest my case after 5 bloody years !!
anonymous - August 20th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
i dont get why every one is moaning about.
rafa started off with a crap squad and now as build it tobe one of the best teams in the world.
we might not have lots of ,oney like city anc chelsea to buy any player we want but we have enough money to buy a few class players every season.
dont forget about the money that went in to giving contract extentions to torres,gerrard,rafa… ect and even in the talks with mascherano to keep him at the club.
i would rather have the money going on them to keep our best players and manager at the club and then add players after
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