Liverpool’s Ryan Babel Can Still be Our Thierry Henry
by YNWA on August 19th, 2009 531 words | 39 commentsStranger things have happened!
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Yes, like my fellow Liverpool fans, I was left very frustrated indeed by Ryan Babel’s abject display out on the left wing against Tottenham, and yes, I like countless others, was left wondering if the Dutchman has indeed been a big mistake of a signing. However there is a solution.
Who would have thought when Dirk Kuyt was first purchased by Rafa Benitez as a no nonsense no frills old fashioned striker that he would in fact become far more useful to the cause as a right winger? Well not me that’s for sure. Now the gaffer has to work that same magic and re-invent our misfiring Dutch winger in a do or die attempt to see if he is indeed capable of becoming an important cog in the Anfield machine.
Yes Babel has been on occasion employed as an out and out striker but not really been given enough chance to really grow into the role. Remember when Arsene Wenger purchased Thierry Henry he too was more well known for playing out on the flank and with a bit of work he made the position of striker his own and never looked back.
True Thierry has attributes and abilities that right now Ryan can only dream about but he is still only 22, which was the same age at which Wenger brought in the French international to north London. Our number 19 has pace, bags of it but often tries one trick to many and can lose the ball far too frequently and maybe that’s because he gets the ball to often and is therefore continuously looking to do something with it rather than keeping possession, now if he was simply an out and out striker he would in theory receive the ball far more often when in the danger area.
Obviously the former Ajax man is not lethal in front of goal but that is a talent that can be honed in time. Think again of Henry, before he arrived at Arsenal his scoring rate was poor, 31 goals in 161 games to be precise. This is simply because scoring goals was not his game plan but once it became his main task then he didn’t look back.
So could Babel work alongside Torres? Well it would be tricky but by no means impossible. He is after all pretty decent in the air and stands at six feet so could be used more ably as a player who can head down and create for El Nino and of course he has the pace and power to scare defenders. Obviously it’s not a natural partnership but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t work.
Such a move would also allow Yossi or Albert to play out left. Personally I would prefer Benayoun in this role but that’s another matter. There are some players who offer little and are a genuine headache and should be offloaded but then there are those players who just so often show glimpses of quality that a club can try to build up and nourish, Ryan is one well worth sticking with.
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Bruce - August 19th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
I generally agree with what you’re trying to say and you almost have been believing it, but Babel needs to earn respect on the pitch and he just hasn’t done it yet.
Can't Remember - August 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
‘Pretty decent in the air’ i’m sorry but have you ever watched Babel go up for a header? More often than not he completly misses the ball. I would like to say miss judges but i think it’s more a yellow streak than anything else
liverpoodlian - August 19th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
play him as a striker rafa..
Kop King - August 19th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
To Can’t Remember
Babel has scored some headers for us, I guess as he is quite tall he could be better. Again as he plays out wide its hard for him to improve in that department
lvslfc12 - August 19th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
i like babel, hence why i have him on my liverpool shirt, and i think he should be played alongside torres
Thierry Henry - August 19th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
How dare you compare ryan babel to me? he is shit. he will always be shit. He doesn’t have the passion to be world class.
Anonymous - August 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
clutching at straws
jason - August 19th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
TORRES BABBEL
RIERA BENAYOU
MASCH GERRARD
INSUA
SKIRTEL AGGER GLEN J
Jimi.G - August 19th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
it’s simple play him up front. He is a striker not a left winger. He can’t defend, all his strengths are in attack. He can’t create but i bet if his only responsibility was to score he would. As an optional side to play
—————————————-Reina—————————————————-
—-Johnson———–Carragher————–Skrtel————————-Insua——
———————————–Mascherano————————————————
Kuyt—————————–Gerrard————————————–Benayoun—
—————————————————-Babel—————————————
———————————Torres————————————————————-
Gooner - August 19th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Wenger may yet sign him. Babel or Chamakh will be the final jigsaw piece for Wenger in my opinion. He does have the attributes, but I think it would be hard for him at Liverpool behind Torres – the best striker in the world.
simon borg - August 19th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Yeah yeah right are you on drugs or what this guy has been with us for long enough taking all that cash in wages farting around. noway is he fit enough to tie John Barnes shoes lace let alone be mentioned in the same breath. Barnes was brilliant fact skillful intelligent entertaining.he’d take 5 or sixplayers on and leave them for dead this guy cannot even trap a ball!! Barnes was an instant hit skillfull players don’t take years to settle down they are instant hit you either have it or you don’t two players that would not need years to settle down I gaurantee you are Silva and Villa I put my head on the line for that one Barnes my arse!
LiverPaul - August 19th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
You can´t blame the defeat on one player.
Yeah he (Babel) was crap, but so where the other 10 on the pitch.
Apart from Reina!
They have all been crap all preseason.
One win, yes against Singapore! Gutted red
YNWA
Mac Mohan - August 19th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Ha ha have you lost your mind???Ryan Babel that too Thierry Henry???Boy,the news I have heard is this is his last season in the league if he doesn’t perform.
And yeah BTW,Rafa can never be Wenger.Wenger plays with boys who plays like men.How many prodigies has Rafa produced since his Anfield days other than some high budget buying ?That team worked because of three men Torres,Gerrard and Alonso out of which only two remains.Liverpool will descent as Torres gets injured every season and so does Gerrard. Just give him Money so that he can buy some good talents and that is what he is best at.But I can’t believe he brought an injured player whose recovery time is also unknown!!!
simon borg - August 19th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Jimi G your better than Benitez?! how about
Riena
Johnson-Skyrtel-Agger-Aurelio-
Mascherano
Silva Aquilani Reira
Gerrard
Torres
sub: carra insua benayoun villa etc people that can change the game.
Liverpool Press Office - August 19th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
It would be fair to say that in in the current climate that Liverpool are not in any position to bring in another big money signing. However the option to play Ryan Babel supporting lone striker Torres is not unrealistic.That may enable Steven Gerrard to fill the gap Xabi Alonso’s departure has made in central midfield along side Mascherano.Lucas has been unable to hold that position succesfully and Gerrard is the very best option for that position pending the full fitness of new signing Alberto Auqulani.
Waka - August 19th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Lol..babel need to be sold..this guy cant even control a ball properly guys
Ray - August 19th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
When he signed for us didn’t he say at the press conference “I prefer to sit behind the striker, but I can do a job out on the left”. Or words to that effect? I remember it as it made me laugh that Rafa had signed him to be a winger. I thought here we go again, another Diouf or Cisse!!!
Given that a) we are short of dosh b) short of Xabi, why doesn’t Rafa move Stevie back a little and put Babel in the attacking midfield role that Stevie now commands?
Give him 5 or 6 games and see what happens. He has the pace to link up with Torres and run at defenders.
Ryan is a BIATCH!! - August 19th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
to Ryan:
ur name shud be Potential!
dats wat u wil always be!
POTENTIAL POTENTIAL POTENTIAL!!
just shut up already!
JOIN FUCKIN ARSENAL IF U WANT, ASSHOLE!
u aint got wat it takes to be a red!
u know wat?!?!
u shud just pursue ur rap artist dreams!
dat way people wil hav a headache listening 2 ur crap!
stevey - August 19th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
liverpool should play a diamond against teams who are just going to defend like stoke tonight for example. This is what chelsea have been doing under ancelotti and it is working very well. tonights team should be.
——————reina
johnson- carra- skertl- insua
—————masch
kuyt—————————benayoun
—————-gerrard
babel —- torres
Can't Remember - August 19th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
simon borg………. why Silva? he dosen’t play for us. Might as well put Messi in there too. Why to people keep picking line ups with players that don’t play for us. How about this 1
Reina
Johnson Carragher Terry Cole
Messi Gerrard Essien Ronaldo
Kaka Torres
I think the prem would be ours with this line up bla bla bla.
simon borg - August 19th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
he has the pace to run at players but he’d leave the ball behind him. tried and tested,result=USELESS!
Mr. Chopper - August 19th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
I thought he was bought as a striker, but then as soon as he did his first press conference he was giving it the old “I want to play striker but the manager wants me to play out of position so I’ll give it my best shot and hope I get rewarded” shtick (otherwise known as Robbie Keane Syndrome).
He played as lone striker against some Nomarks Athletic (in the Carling Cup I think) and he looked pretty decent. I think Rafa thinks he can pull another Kuyt with him, but that isn’t going to happen. Kuyt was bought whilst he was playing on the right-hand side of a three-forward system, yet Benitez played him out of position as striker and he was… not great. He’s become a much better player over the last few years and the formation has been changed to accommodate him in the role he was originally used to. Obviously this is more to do with accommodating Capn’ Fantastic and Torres, but Kuyt benefited from now being played “out of position” even though he was finally being played in his rightful spot.
Ryan is still stuck out on the left. He’s still trying to come inside. He really needs to either play where Gerrard does, or understudy Torres. The problem is that Rafa sees Ngog as Torres’ understudy and Kuyt/Voronin as his cover. He still refuses to give Babel a fair chance on his terms, as when he plays him this seems to be Rafa saying “there’s your chance, show me what you can do”, even though he’ll only ever be a disappointment out on the wing. I feel sorry for the lad, but figure he must just not train hard enough. Those that train hard seem to get preferential treatment (as well they should), which is why you end up with odd starting line-ups. Lucas as CM rather than dropping Gerrard back and trying Babel SS..? Maybe if Lucas wasn’t such a hard worker in training then Babel might just get a chance.
As it stands I wouldn’t be surprised if he went in January, to be replaced by someone on the turn for about £8m like Bentley. And with him will go a fantastic opportunity to shape and mature someone who could be a world beater, for a fraction of the cost.
xile - August 19th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
—————————————-Reina—————————————————-
—-Johnson———–Carragher————–Skrtel————————-Insua—
———————————– Mascherano———————————————
—Kuyt—————————–Gerrard————————————–Riera——
——————————————Benayoun——————————————
———————————Torres———————————————————
Babel on the bench where he belongs
RaNE - August 19th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
he didnt play in his natural position for ages so itll take him time to find his feet
but if we are looking for a back up for torres how about rafeal sobis he is spanish, great passing, very good at shooting and he costs nothing because hes currently a free agent
lvslfc - August 19th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
look at georgie thompson on sky sports news. shes lookin hot today
Anonymous - August 19th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
sobis is brazilian
JCWW - August 19th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
BABEL BOLLOCKS!
The strength & pace of this lad is & could be phenomal however he has sadly been wasted throughout his career here. yes some of has been down to his attitude but under Rafa it just will not work. He has on most occasions been played out of position a tactic that rafa seems to employ on players who are intitially brought in as strikers. I have said before under a different manager ie Wenger Babel would be without doubt displaying his obvious skills to the world so unless rafa changes his trusted formation and puts the kid up front & not for half here & there we are sadly will never see the promise he could offer. but whos fault is that…………..four letters….rhymes with fafffa or crapper or kappa.
as for the opening game it does not bode well…mark my words…little activity on the fucking star signings required & needed…instead a look to the bench to see the likes of Veronica & untried youth is an embarrasment & each season appears to be getting worse …yes we have several key injuries Agger etc but beyond 12 – 15 players our squad is PITIFUL. ten games in I wonder what reaction towards the trust in Rafa brigade will be? because if any injury occurs for eg torres & b4 wait a minute he missed games last season…& we won without him…do people really believe this can happen again? the teams around us then the Chelseas etc were not in the form they could have been….and despite manures loss of Ronaldo etc will still be a force…throw in the equation of several others….this season could be one huge MISS….and no I am not a pessimistic…but a REALIST…..right thru’ the club the owners, the manager, the endless cheap & garbage signings to just make the numbers up is a joke, the import of youth players who I know will in most cases never see a first team shirt again is a noose that seems to suggest someone must be on a huge BACK-HANDER I mean seven hungarians the bedrock & home of football…the endless moans Rafa….& the blinkered views of fans who are convinced that this man could fart gold dust from his arse etc all need to addressed….if not the repurcussions will be evident!
rant over but I feel much better
Si P - August 19th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
It’s time he moved on. he’s not the type of natural athlete that Henry was/is. He may be quick, but he can’t really change direction and twist and turn like a winger. He doesn’t have the speed of foot to take the ball with his back to goal and turn, beat a man and shoot either. So as a winger or a striker, he is just not going to cut it in England.
He’d be better of in Italy where defenders afford wingers and strikers more space, and you can get away with being a lazy so and so …
Kop King - August 19th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Hey i am Kop King to the user using my name bog off and just for the record babel has had his chance now to get rid.
Donavan Ried - August 19th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Alittle bit about me ….. I was born in London, My Mother was Jamaican born, her Father was German, Her mother Jamaican,and her mother was Irish, My father too was Jamaican born, His mother was Jamaican and father was Dutch ….. I am proud to be Black and eveally proud that my mother brought me up to look at people for who they are and not for the colour for there skin,or sexual orientation ……. Have said that, i may help to understand where i am coming from with this …..
since jioning Liverpool Ryan Babel has made little to no progress what so ever, Ok he may not stand on or forget the ball as often as he use to, but apart from that this tackling is still like what you would expect to see in the school playground, his control and dribbling is woeful at best …… Not whether this is down to the Player, coaches, System, or Rafa ( I don’t think anyone can really blame this one on Rafa) Ryan Babel is just not improving …… As a Black man i would love to see Babel become a true success at Liverpool, My four year old Like Man
Donavan Ried - August 19th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Sorry Hit The Submit button, …… My four year old supports Man Utd …. I asked him why? …. He said that there is no good black players at Liverpool thats why ……….. Ryan( Also the name of my 4year old) Babel is just not cutting it, Nor will he
Kopite - August 20th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Sell d idiot. He is no good 4 d team.loses d bol easily dnt see him improvin
anonymous - August 20th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
drop gerrard back to centre mid, get rid of that shitter lucas and give babel a chance up top along side torres. Rafa is just ruining wat could of been a great player for us by playing him on the fucking left.
Donavan Ried - August 20th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Come on lads register those names and log in so we can all see who is saying what …. No more idiots posting comments in other peoples name
anonymous - August 21st, 2009 at 12:07 am
Travis- Agree with chopper 100%. I stated 6 weeks ago, is the liverpool we see at the start of the season the one that was so good the last 8 weeks of last season, or the defensive minded crap we saw in dec/jan? Against tot- it was the latter, against stoke the former. With an attacking mentality, I believe Babel could be lethal. Played just behind torres, recieving a beautiful pass from gerrard, shapes to shoot but dummies,round the last defender…GOOAAAAAALLLLL. DONT give up on the bab just yet, he has had his confidence destroyed by raf, everytime he goes out there he must feel like he is playing for his carrea. Rafa needs to play him just behind torres, and give him this simple instuction….ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK, AND score me some goals
anonymous - August 21st, 2009 at 3:39 am
babel is a very gud player note … on his day wen liverpool are 3 or 4 goals up dats why rafa brings him on 60 or 70 minutes into the game and as ye all seen against tottenham rafa gave him an oppurtunity and as ye remember he didnt take it 40 minutes into the game i forgot babel was even on the pitch ha he cud be a great player he has all the attributes to become one but one thing he dosnt have which every great has is desire and passion for the game nd he simply dosnt have it.
anonymous - August 21st, 2009 at 11:06 am
Ryan Babel is neer going to make it at Liverpool FC. He just does not have the mentality. As soon as the going got tough for him he was trying to orchestrate a move back to Holland. That is not the sort of player we want. We want a player like Yossi who is prepared to sit on the bench like he did against Spurs, then come on and perform like he did in the closing stages of the spurs game, and then again aginst Stoke. Yossi get’s better. Babel get’s worse. He’s had his chance’s. Time to offload back to Holland.
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rassell - November 18th, 2009 at 4:37 am
I agree with your article completely apart from the heading bit, torres is better at that and also createing the goals for babel…babel is just an out n out striker and should rafa give him the chance he will prove to be a awsome striker just have a look at him on u-tube before he came to us…..rafa has made the kid a nervous wreck by abusing him and using him on the wing.
we should play 442 -
Reina
Johnson Skertl Agar Aurillio
Yossi Gerrad Aquilliani Riera
Torres Babel
Call back Nemeth
Bench
Carra, Kuyt, Ngog, Nemeth, Insua
Sell Mr i am too big for the club Mascherano (if he don’t wanna play fr our club then we don’t need him) for 36mil and buy both VDV and also Sneijder and we would have a great side.
What do you all think?