Could This Really Be Liverpool’s Next Steven Gerrard?
by YNWA on September 16th, 2009 368 words | 43 commentsImproving midfielder makes unwise comparison.
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“I’m in my third season now and I’m playing more games,” Lucas told BBC Radio Merseyside.
“Steven, ten years ago, started like me,” he continued. “But when you are focused and you work hard you can get a chance [to show what you can do].” (BBC Sport)
Whilst I would agree that Lucas has improved this season I think comparisons made by the Brazilian to Stevie G may be getting a little ahead of himself. To be fair to the young midfielder he is still finding his feet at the club and he played perhaps two of his best games for the club against Stoke City and then Burnley.
It is hard to pigeon hole the 22 year old as a certain type of midfielder. As discussed on here before It is clear he is not a Javier or a Xabi as such but more a composite of both players, which can be useful but no doubt also a little tricky for the player to adjust to the role that best suits his abilities.
I think he is on the verge of justifying his place in the team and the problem will arise when Alberto Aquilani is fully fit and then Rafa will have to juggle things around or more likely, have Lucas sit out some games and that may be a hard pill for the Brazilian to swallow and will be a test of his character and maturity.
Leiva’s passing has improved of late and that was in many ways the attribute that most angered us as supporters, was his ability to lose the ball with a wayward misdirected ball, even the most simple five yarder seemed to occasionally trouble him but now he seems a more fluid player, able to keep the play moving without slowing it down needlessly.
He may not be the next Steven Gerrard but I do feel there is a place for him at the club and he could yet become a player of great value to the club and the rest of this season will be crucial to his chances of becoming a Liverpool player of merit.
YNWA
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anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
You’re getting better Lucas, but don’t get carried away.
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Always good to see yourself high targets
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
He has been much better this season. You’re right about him being a bit of a defensive midfielder, a bit of an attacking midfielder, and then kind of not enough of either.
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
I’m proud of him, he’s certainly no Gerrard, but he will defantly be in a few years. I admire the kid.
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
hw surely has the capacity to>> but it jst might take him some tim to shape up as gerrad
Retryboy - September 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
ffs this is the biggest joke of all time at 22 he aint gonna get much better he is so improved this season he already cost us 3 points in the villa game he could at best be a back up to mascherano think aurelio is better than him in that position tho if massa gets injured and at his age gerrard was dominating teams and slamming hardcore tackles into the likes of roy keane banging goals in from 40 yards what are these attributes that make him good enough for liverpool cos i don’t see them
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
do u remember a couple of weeks ago every1 was ripping chunks into him saying he should leave now all of a sudden he has a good game and every1 like o we all sed he was ok which is a lie as every1 slated him, puh every1 hated him b4, he gonna need alot more good performances to make up for all the bad ones he has made at the club and only then can you say he’s a good player turning into a great 1.
i think if we can spend a bit of money on january then we should bring in michael johnson of man city he’s a great young player and would be an asset at liverpool
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Micheal Johnson is s*it aswell!!! Get a f*ckin grip another hyped up English player who will amount to nothing!!! Lucas is still s*it aswell what we’re seeing now is him in form!!! God help us when he goes off the boil again!!!
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
retry boy. the supposed peak age for a striker is 27 and then it gets older as u go back. so a midfielder is about 28 peak age, defenders about 29. as for sayin he wont improve much, look how much gerrard has improved in the last 3 or 4 seasons since benitez has been here. massively. the same can be said for alonso. he was never a 30 mil rated player until last season when it all just seemed to click for him.
Retryboy - September 16th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Gerrard has always been class from his debut lucas has been getting games for 2 years and costing us games lucas liability leiva may improve but will never be a world class player in my eyes just doesn’t have the attributes
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Retryboy is correct!!! Lucas will never be a world beater!!!!
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
i have always been a lucas supporterand i wont stop now, as for fucking babel whats his fucking problem
Donavan Ried - September 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
We can all dream can’t we Lucas
footybanter.co.uk - September 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
He’s good, but not that good. I think when Aquilani is fit his first team chances will be somewhat limited.
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
i hope when aquilani is back, his first team chances are limited ‘cos he is not very good at all and is still a bit of a liability. but he does need encouragement and credit where credit’s due, he has improved and added some value to the team. his shooting isn’t as lame as before and may trouble keepers. his passing was slightly better… BUT put a few through balls for torres and gerrard or anyone else in a goalscoring position [assists], score a few [ maybe 5-10] convincing goals this season and then we can talk of being a good going to great player… for now, close but no cigar…
Dom - September 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Lucas was the second best player on the pitch on saturday. When he came to take a corner the whole stand stood up and applauded him. Then he clapped back.
Dom - September 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Retryboy – September 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
ffs this is the biggest joke of all time at 22 he aint gonna get much better he is so improved this season he already cost us 3 points in the villa game
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So gerrard slide tackling in the area and giving away a penalty when we was chasin the game didnt cost us it?
Who is to say if lucas didnt get a head on that somebody else wouldnt score?
Who is to say that somebody else wouldnt have scored an og? Carra perhaps?
dave - September 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
i watched lucas play at st james’s park in the 5-1 thrashing of newcastle and thought he was outstanding,although he should of scored twice
Retryboy - September 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Up to that point villa didn’t look like getting one and lucas gave them the free kick then scored the own goal from it changing the whole game every player is allowed mistakes but he has cost us points on many occasions giving away penalties getting sent off and generally being lame whilst u can count the good games he has had on one hand how can u compare him to gerrard total opposites in my book gerrard wins games for us best we can hope for when lucas plays is that he doesn’t fuck things up 2 much
Warren Bloggs - September 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Lucas will improve i beleive as he has already made some improvement although he is still getting a bit ahead of himself.
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
you heard it here first masch will be gone in jan and lucas will fill his boots and the fat yanks will have another 30-35 mill in there banks. well done lucas for a good start to the season lets get behind the lad
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
the above post was posted by redtilidie 4 got to log in
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
ha this player is one of the dirtest players i the league and is by far not like gerrad his is the shit on my shoe
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
shit shit and shit
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
cant pass,cant shoot,shits himself when other players r near, 3 ok games in 80, pushed off the ball easy,only passes backwards…..fucking shit. sell the cunt
RaNE - September 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
he can aim high but hopefully he wont shoot low
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
If he is the next gerrard than ryan babel is the next maradona ha ha.
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
omg u must be joking, thats never a comparison
srry it will NEVER!!!! HAPPEN!!!! hes shit
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
LucARSE LeaveUS is and always will be crap. If Rafa hadn’t paid £6m he would have left. Spearing is a lot better…….
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
he may be playing more games at the moment, but when aquilani is fit lucas will be benched. long way to go but he is playing well. there is only one steve g. is he the new dunga?
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
I’ve just seen the champions league game and despite our overall team performance being substandard I honestly thought Lucas played well and hope he proves the doubters wrong.He’s still young and has world class players to learn from,he won’t improve on the bench or in the reserves,so cut him some slack and support our TEAM.The players and manager rate him highly enough, and if he doesn’t improve he won’t be the first or the last not to make the grade at a club with such high standards,and will be shipped out.
The day the fans start picking the team will be a very worrying one.
anonymous - September 16th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
I thought he was the man of the match tonight in the Champs lg, keep up the good work Lucas. YNWA
Retryboy - September 16th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Football is all about opinions every1 has one and in this new defensive role 2nite he actually looked really good hope he does prove me wrong and carry on in this fashion u can’t blame the fans for getting on his back for the way he performed up till now but did look totally different player so prepared to get behind him was never not behind the team didn’t think he was good enough still think when Aquilani is fit he will be on the bench but if he carries on in this vain he could be good
anonymous - September 17th, 2009 at 3:39 am
Lucas was brought in to be the next Gerrard. We do not know how good he is going to be. It is still far too early to judge, given that he didn’t play that often. One player whom i think is really showing signs of becoming the next Gerrard is Stephen Ireland. He is so good that Mark Hughes built a team around him.
anonymous - September 17th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Let us the young man a chance. I think he has the ability to improve especially that he is now a first team choice.
anonymous - September 17th, 2009 at 8:00 am
anonymous – September 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
LucARSE LeaveUS is and always will be crap. If Rafa hadn’t paid £6m he would have left. Spearing is a lot better…….
How can people compare Lucus and Spearing when we only see Spearing play a few mins for the first team….Rafa see them in training everyday and I think he knows who is the better player!
I also remember many giving similar shit to Carra when he scored a few own goals as well….. What is the point of giving all these shit to our own player? He is 22 and have time to improve.
baggins09 - September 17th, 2009 at 8:42 am
i think lucas was our best player last night, gerrard gave the ball away more than anyone, torres didn’t look interested, insua was poor, johnsons crossing was shite,yossi and skrtl played ok carra wasn’t his usual self, reina kept having the look on his face of a man who wanted to be at madrid with his bitch alonso, riera was wasteful but made some good runs, lucas was as bad as everyone else first half but definately best player second half.
did anyone else think there was a look of tension in the tunnel no one looked determined it was as if they was expecting a poor game i thought.
THE BIG I AM - September 17th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Lucas plays alot better than people give him credit for! no one talks about him when he plays well and his efforts go uncredited . . . as soon as he makes a mistake its. . . aaaaww lucas is shite, its totally unbalanced.
Most players would strugle when there own fans boo them
hes improving, hes doing well now, hes only 22 so he will get better he has a good 6 years before hes in his peak and he will improve . . he is improving!
As lucas gets more confident hell play waaay better, confidence is evrything in football and you can tell hes getting more confident.
anonymous - September 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
From last night’s game. Only lucas and kuyt were smiling to each other. Why? Because they both know they have done a good job.
Posted by jintanah
baggins09 - September 17th, 2009 at 9:46 am
i think lucas will be great in the next few years i think been part of a three man mid might suit lucas better knowing masch is behind would put less pressure on him defensively and he could play with a bit more freedom him and gerrard would both get back if needed anyway without playing such dissaplined role and could push up more. id try-
————————————-masch———————————
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—————-lucas/aquilani———————-gerrard————
kuyt——————————————————————-yossi
————————————torres———————————–
and then rotate lucas with aquilani when he’s fit to break him in, then against less attacking teams have lucas holding and gerrard aquilani attacking, i think we need to focus on getting a new dm though i don’t think this masch to barca thing has dissapeared regardless of weather or not he’s signed a new contract or not.
baggins09 - September 17th, 2009 at 9:51 am
jintanah i forgot to mention kuyt in my 8:42am post kuyt had fairly good game but i definately think he suits playing out wide now.
anonymous - September 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Lucas’ biggest problem is that he is more like Steven Gerrard, than Alonso or Mascherano.
His favoured position is ‘attacking midfielder’ however he’s never gonna play in that position ahead of Gerrard. Last night when we set up as a 4-4-2 (or 4-41-1 with Kuyt playing slightly behind Torres) Lucas was left with the ‘holding role’ whilst Gerrard obvioulsy pushed on behind Torres & Kuyt.
I reckon that Lucas could play a more attacking role with Masch holding and Gerrard playing off Torres, but whilst he is partnering gerrard in the middle he is always going to be the more defensive of the two.
I believe this lad will make the postioin his own eventually, Gerrard is 29 now and will have to pace himself a bit more, over the next couple of years he will have to play a mopre withdrawn role and perhaps Lucas will then come to the fore
Retryboy - September 17th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Was a strange one gerrard and lucas both seemed to be playing deep lucas did fine holding lot better with benayoun down the middle behind torres and kuyt out on the right