Liverpool to Make January Move for “New Alonso”? Midfielder Nilton Would Cost Nothing
by Mr Neutral on October 18th, 2009 423 words | 36 commentsRafa considers Brazilian raid apparently.
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Liverpool have been linked with a January move for Vasco da Gama’s promising young midfielder Nilton.
The 22-year-old Brazilian joined the Rio de Janeiro outfit from Corinthians last year, but Vasco, who once beat Manchester United in the World Club Cup, have slipped into the Brazilian second division.
And Nilton, whose contract at Vasco expires in January, is said to be considering his options having grown discontent at the club’s plight and life outside the top-tier of Brazilian football.
The former Brazil U20 international did his already burgeoning reputation no harm by scoring a spectacular overhead volley in Vasco’s recent 4-1 victory over rivals Vila Nova.
Liverpool have endured a shaky start to their Premier League campaign, suffering losses to Chelsea, Aston Villa and Tottenham Hotspur already this season, as well as succumbing to defeat in a Champions League tie with Fiorentina.
Both pundits and fans alike have pinpointed the absence of Xabi Alonso, who moved to Real Madrid this summer, as the cause for Liverpool’s poor start.
Doubts remain at Anfield over Lucas Leiva, while summer recruit Alberto Aquilani has yet to make it out of the treatment room following his £17 million transfer from Serie A side Roma.
And Rafael Benitez may swoop for Nilton, primarily a defensive midfielder, in a bid to reinforce his depleted midfield. (Four Four Two)
Many Liverpool fans have rightly been concerned about the ailing nature of their defence but there also seems to be some serious issues with their midfield. With Xabi Alonso gone and Javier Mascherano, when picked to start, doesn’t look half the player he did last term, so with that in mind would Rafa be considering a move for this young Brazilian?
Well the fact he appears to be available for nothing come January will at least please the club’s moneymen, who do not seem likely to give Benitez much in the way of capital when the transfer window re-opens, but is Nilton really ready for such a big step up from the second tier of Brazilian football to the top end of the Premier League?
Anyone who is dubbed the “next Zidane/Pele/Maradona” has more often than not been compared to a great player by the player’s agent, and this appears to be the case with this particular individual. I don’t think the Liverpool boss will bring in this youngster and would do better to have a word with his Argentine international and try to get him firing on all cylinders.
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anonymous - October 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Cool
Ryan Babel - October 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
for free worth a try.
Retryboy - October 18th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
People blame the loss of alonso funny how O’Neill has coped with the loss of barry from a squad half the size of ours and from a team with nowhere near the quality of players bad start is down to rafa alone.
Red_Phoenix - October 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Anyone thats better than Lucas is fine by me
anonymous - October 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I can’t help but to now feel that our poor start is solely down to the formation of the teams that rafa has been putting out i mean for example this team could beat any
Reina
Johnston Skrtle Agger Aurelio
Benayoun Mascherano Gerrard Riera
Torres Babel
This team for me would be around top spot if not top right now.
What do you all think cos we still have a superb team.
anonymous - October 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Above post from Kop King
Also for this team to be possible we need to start with a more possitive formation which we rarely ever do.
Retryboy - October 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Kop king spot on would personally have Gk-reina RB-johnson LB-aurelio CB-carragher CB-agger CM-mascherano CM-gerrard LM-benayoun RM-babel CF-torres CF-kuyt/nemeth
We have the quality of players to attack they just aren’t used and if they are its in the wrong position.
Hoogleboogybugleboy - October 18th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
I’m sure that if the teams that you suggest above were played and didn’t win Benitez would still be blamed. It’s unbelievable really as people have been griping on and on about Benitez not giving Spearing a chance. He gets a chance on Saturday and plays crap. Babel again was dire as was Agger.
Who played in the “wrong” position yesterday then, just out of interest?
anonymous - October 18th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
lucas isnt as bad as spearing
Retryboy - October 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Kuyt has none of the attributes needed to be a lone striker look at the people who can do that role well torres, Adebayor, drogba, agbonlahor, anelka all have pace or power or both kuyt has neither is more of a linking striker every time rafa has tried it its failed. Babel looks better every time he plays on the right or as a striker thought benitez had learnt that this season but again he started on the left whereas benayoun has proved he can be equally effective either side or behind a quick striker. Dunno how you can try and defend a formation with only 3 attacking players that even rafa had to ditch by then it was too late.
Retryboy - October 18th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Oh and to give spearing a chance in as bad a team as was put out is a poison chalice think he was better than lucas and should get his chance in a decent team alongside gerrard when massa is injured or needs a rest in a 4-4-2 with good players around him not that waste of space brazilian and a fucked up formation
anonymous - October 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Kop King
To hoogleboogyboogleboy ryan babel is continually played out of position yet still gets criticised and i for one am definitely not one of those who was calling for the inclusion of spearing as i have said in previous posts that i don’t rate him. You cannot justify such negative tactics but in saying that i am still 100% behind the Rafa and still have confidence that he can turn things around.
Retryboy - October 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I thought the same way until Sunderland the formation that was already too defensive being made even more defensive. The waste of babels talents on the left again has just proved that rafa is incapable of learning.
anonymous - October 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Yeah Yeah Babel played out of position, boohoo, he’s like twenty three for gods sake, he should be able to cope with a match “out of position” given he’s been played there for years. Truth is he doesn’t care about liverpool, doesn’t care if we win or lose, only cares about getting his move to another club. I defended babel as much as anyone thru the summer, now i regret defending him as he really doesn’t do anything when playing for us. Flog him if we can, get someone who can actually do at least one positive thing each match. Babel is a joke.
Retryboy - October 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Love the way you would rather blame a player that you admit has been played out of position than the managers ridiculous tactics
anonymous - October 18th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
rafa shud hav put this team out against sunderland
reina
johnson carra agger insua
mascherano
benayoun aurelio
babel riera
kuyt
bench voronin, skrtel, cavelieri, lucas, dossena, spearing, ngog.
Warren Bloggs - October 18th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
At a free Nilton is worth a punt seeing as we have a very depleted midfield and no funds, we need more depth and if he is as good as he is supposed to be he may well be a bargain, and if he isn’t then there is nothing lost from the reds we can sell him on and make a quick buck?
Hoogleboogybugleboy - October 18th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
As I said before. We beat the Mancs on Sunday and Everton the following week and attitudes of the fickle will change again.
Hoogleboogybugleboy - October 18th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
The best thing would be Benitez getting sacked and then open a book on how long it takes the fickle to get on the new guys back. I’d say he’d get a shorter honeymoon than Benitez.
anonymous - October 18th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Hoogleboogy bugleboy, good call! When things aren’t going right, the daggers are out on Rafa’s back. He’s been blame for starting Babel in the wrong position. Well, against Sunderland he got his favoured start as a forward. Frankly he was invisible and when he gets the ball, he’s shit. His sense of awareness is just so poor. He looks much more comfortable running with the ball and cutting from the left. I think Rafa may have got that right previously.
Then there is the call to start Spearing. Well, he was given his chance. Quite honestly, my granddad would have played better. He was very slow for the level. When you are in the middle and losing ball all the time, you can’t blame Lucas for failing to make impact. Lucas wasn’t super but he wasn’t as bad as Spearing.
Some said it’s Rafa’s formation. Shit, i think some just don’t fully grasp how football works. Formation has value but it doesn’t win you the league. You build formation around the players you got! If 4 4 2 is the favoured position, then most of the EPL teams would have won the championship by now! We lost the game quite frankly because most of the team played like shit. Agger was very poor. Spearing, clearly at least for this game it’s out of his range. Babel is total let down. Lucas can’t carry the whole midfield alone. The whole team needs to shape up. I have a sad feeling we will be lucky to get 4th this season.
anonymous - October 19th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Spearing isn’t a center midfielder …..
Retryboy - October 19th, 2009 at 12:42 am
Hoogleboy. I am not fickle you are just blind to our situation. 8th place with the scum twice, chelski once, gooners twice, villa once, spurs once, shitty twice, everton twice we have played 3/12 of our hardest games this season. Villa’s squad is nowhere near the strength of ours but O’Neill knows how to get the best out of players. Rafa and yourself along with the scum fans and the press think we are a 2 man team and the best way to get results is to have 8 men behind the ball and wait for them to do something special. I don’t i have more belief in our squad than that. By the way i have supported liverpool for 25 years and will do for life no matter what and come lyon and united will be cheering us on believing we can turn things around but thats my heart not my head and you know as well as anyone when you see that team sheet your heart will probably be sinking again too.
Donavan Ried - October 19th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Give him a trail, if he does well sign him if not …..
anonymous - October 19th, 2009 at 2:03 am
agree with donavan give him a trial and see how he goes
anonymous - October 19th, 2009 at 2:23 am
Even though I’m a Liverpool fan, I really don’t see Liverpool winning anything because I don’t see any teamwork or co-ordination during the last few games that I’ve witnessed.
But the two stupid individuals that piss me right off is Babel and Benayoun, these two idiots don’t contribute enough to the team, when they’re at the oppositions danger zone they always want the glory to themselves, they are so stingy to pass the ball to a team member who is free in the box and has a better chance to score or at least hit the fucking target.
I’ve seen them doing the same mistake countless times now and it’s irritating to see them on the pitch shooting the ball wide and not learn from their mistakes, which costs Liverpool the glory.
Watching Arsenal play is like how Liverpool used to play back in them days having to rely on fantastic teamwork.
But from the last couple of years I’ve been seeing less and less of Liverpool playing as a team, Its more about glory for certain individuals.
(Ranz10)
anonymous - October 19th, 2009 at 3:06 am
fuck off lucas.benitez fuck ur fucking strategy.really fucking annoying with ur damn plan
anonymous - October 19th, 2009 at 9:29 am
generally when a player cost nothing there shit and after a huge pay rise and no descant team wants them example voronin who we must have already spent 2 million on wages for him don’t know anything about this guy but the next alonso that for me sends out warning signals.sell the dead weight first before bringing in more
anonymous - October 19th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Rafa fuck off out of liverpool and take dem yank twats wid you please …….Today.
Scouse Magic - October 19th, 2009 at 10:45 am
If he was that good surely he would have moved already!! And getting on about Benitez yes i think he’s lost the plot, however with all the goings on at the club you can probably see why things are going seriously wrong. What Benitez cannot deny though is that it was plain to see that we needed a striker and he didn’t go out and get one, now with Torres injured we have to rely on the very poor Babel, Ngog, and Voronin, these players are just not fit to wear the shirt. As for Spearing give the guy a chance it was his first start in the premiership, Lucas has had two years and has performed approx twice, you people have short memories when Spearing came on in the Champions league last season for 20 mins he was class alongside Gerrard, when you play with quality it gives you confidence when you play with shit you are brought down to their level.
Retryboy - October 19th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Anon 11.57 “babel got his favoured start as a forward”… No he was on the left wing. Formations might not win you the league but they sure can lose you it. By the way every team that has ever won the epl has done so playing 4-4-2. Anon at 2.23 babel and benayoun piss you off they are to stingy to pass the ball to a player free in the box… When you only have one other attacking player in the team don’t think there was ever much chance of anyone getting free against 4 players. Well said Scouse magic answering the spearing point 2 years worth of first team action for lucas to get to average and spearing gets an hour in a bull shit formation next to a waste of space like lucas.
Hoogleboogybugleboy - October 19th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Retryboy. I don’t remember naming any names when i said “the fickle”.
How you can say i am blind to our situation when you don’t even know me and just go off some posts on an internet forum is beyond me. I live and breath Liverpool football club 24/7 and i am not blind to any situation, I just choose to be positive and realistic rather than come out with knee jerk reactions every time we lose. Of course I’m disappointed that fucking Spurs are doing better than us so far this season and that we not only got beat by Sunderland but they were actually better than us. I am bloody furious about the state of our club from the top down but I don’t buy into the fact that it’s all Benitez’s fault. Of course he should take some of the responsibility and he probably does but no one will ever convince me that it is only his fault and that sacking him will solve the problem. The only way to turn this around is for the players to stick together, work harder and try and put in a better performance next week. As for the fans. I agree that Benitez has made some horrible signings, Babel springs to mind but who could have forseen that a player will turn out to be as disinterested in playing for Liverpool as this guy has. And just for the record. Babel has always played as a left sided attacker so even the fickle can’t say that he’s played out of position.
Donavan Ried - October 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Hoogleboogybugleboy – October 19th, 2009 at 1:00 pm ……… Look first off i may have been too jugdemental towards you and this is by now way intended to be critical of you, or me having a go. But i wish too touch on a few piont that you have raised …… “I just choose to be positive and realistic” While i have no doubt about you being positive it is you being realistic that i question, Rfa has made mistakes, we all make they, but he seems either unwilling or unable to learn from them. ……
“Babel springs to mind but who could have forseen that a player will turn out to be as disinterested in playing for Liverpool as this guy has.” ……. I agree with this. But why is he still here??……
“but I don’t buy into the fact that it’s all Benitez’s fault “……… No it is not, but he has to strart taking blame for what goes on; on the pitch ……
Look I want to show you some thing i posted here after the Aston Villia match
Liverpool 1-3 Aston Villa Premier League Highlights (Video)
by Mr Comfort on August 24th, 2009 ………… “The free kick that lead to the first goal was soft, (and not being the biggest fan of Lucas), i refuse to blame him for it. ….. I also refuse to blame him for the attempted headed clearrance that found the back of the net either …. It happens.Ask Gerrard,Carra’ Agger,and Riise ……..
I Felt for Lucas …… You could see he was gutted …… But i was impressed with his response, almost getting on the end of a cross to level things up in the very next attack…..”
I have also deffended Rafa on occassion ……. I will not blames someone when it is not their fualt ……… But this is so clearly Rafa’s
Retryboy - October 19th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Its the remarks questioning peoples loyalties that get me coming out fighting especially when we have just seen a performance like that. I agree that the constant turmoil behind the scenes does nothing for us and the owners have to go but all the problems on the pitch are 100% rafa he has had complete control of all areas for years, enough money. Do you not think Hoogleboy that rather than think all the players have forgotten how to play maybe they have lost belief in rafa and are disillusioned too?
Retryboy - October 19th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Also have you not noticed that babel is right footed? So how can his natural position be left wing he put in 2 good substitute appearances on the right banging in a pin point match winning cross and when it comes to this game you can guarantee he thought he would get a chance to start on the right or up front and when he saw himself on the left again he must have been gutted you know why rafa didn’t play him there? Cos he doesn’t want to admit he has been wrong for 2 years and the fans and pundits have been right.
anonymous - October 19th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
this is how i could see our team..
reina
johnson carragher agger insua/skrtel
mascherano
gerrard aquilani nilton benayoun
torres
team worthy of winning the premiership!
anonymous - October 20th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Big mistake, loaning out Nemeth, watched him a few times for the reserves he looked really good. why loan him out anythings better than voronin