Liverpool 2-0 Manchester United Player Ratings and Analysis
by YNWA on October 26th, 2009 41 commentsThe kind of performance that silences critics.
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Well that was just what the doctor ordered…and then some. Its hard to imagine a more perfect result for Rafa and Liverpool Football Club, obviously having Javier Mascherano sent off late on was not ideal but in many ways him giving his all for the team all the way until the last seconds, hence the late challenge on Edwin Van der Sar, is in many ways a good thing and shows that the Argentine is mentally back on the ball.
Yes Man United looked subdued and were by no means firing on all cylinders but that can not take the gloss off our own very capable, very measured and very organised performance. Throughout the side there was a sense that it was time to deliver and time to show the boss that they were going to fight for the cause and battle in his defence.
The match moved at its expected 100mph style but from first to last whistle, with rare exception, every player seemed to be a picture of concentration and they appeared to want the win and perhaps more importantly, believed they were capable of putting Sir Alex’s side to the sword for the third time running.
In my view there was no better player on the park than Yossi Benayoun. The Israeli scampered and harried for everything. When he had the ball he used it intelligently and was always looking for an attacking option, when he lost it, he made sure that the opposition couldn’t progress and when needed he put in an expert pass wrong footing the United defence giving Fernando Torres the chance to out muscle Rio Ferdinand before firing an unstoppable finish.
Long before that Fabio Aurelio was a big threat, his expertly swung in set pieces were causing their defence loads of problems and one can imagine just what score we could have racked up if Ben Foster was still between the sticks, thankfully for the Old Trafford side Edwin Van der Sar kept them in the game with a couple of fine saves, one from an Aurelio free kick and another from a header from the Brazilian, which was laid on a plate by Yossi Benayoun, that to be fair Aurelio should have buried.
Lucas and Javier Mascherano bossed the midfield and silenced Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick. It was Javier’s best game of the season and Lucas continued his progress from also ran to genuinely capable player.
Yes it’s true that Ferguson’s claim for a penalty when Jamie Carragher flung himself at Michael Carrick may have been just but as he himself respectfully agreed, Liverpool were still the better team and one who deserved the victory.
David Ngog’s late second will do him wonders. The Frenchman is still very much adjusting to the Premier League and his calm and assured finish would last season probably have ended up in Van der Sar’s midriff.
All in all Rafa needed this result, and this performance, more than anyone else did. What he must however hope for now is that a result of this nature is backed up in forthcoming ‘easier’ games against Fulham and Birmingham because it is in those less high profile games that we tend to shoot ourselves in the foot and we have done so far too often already this season that we don’t have much of a foot left to aim at.
This season promises to be one of the most open in recent years. The top nine are separated by just nine points and even though we have already lost four matches this term, other sides have dropped points with alarming regularity which keeps us in the hunt. Just think what would have happened if Stevie G had been passed fit?
Reina 7 – Rarely troubled
Johnson 7 – A more measured performance. Rafa wisely advised him to cut back on the marauding runs
Agger 8 – Top notch performance. Dealt with just about everything and sprung out from the back with the ball to great effect
Aurelio 8 – One of Fabio’s best games in a Liverpool shirt. Inch perfect delivery
Insua 7 – Did well to shackle Valencia for most of the game
Carragher 8 – Wholehearted display. Would expect nothing less from him
Benayoun 9 – Always a danger, always a threat
(Skrtel) 6 – Brought on for final three minutes
Mascherano 8 – Commanding performance
Lucas 8 – Was able to cut out the misplaced passes that so often earn him boos. Had a good game
Torres 8 – Took his one clear cut chance with aplomb just as World Class strikers will always do
(Ngog) 7 – Took his goal well and will hopefully gain some much needed confidence from doing so
Kuyt 8 – Tireless display
YNWA
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anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Too good!……….great performance……..hope the run continues!
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 11:07 am
you just said about everything there was to say…and what makes this performance even better is that gerrard’s absence was barely noticeable…which means that the other players(often too much criticised of late) have duly delivered and hopefully they will get a boost from that…let’s hope for a new run…a winning run this time…it was about time we showed what we could do!!!
Come on kops!!!
YNWA
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am
biiiig liverpool fan bt the ratings are a bit over the bar if u do understand my drift..,bt hey i had a moment of pure pleasure n hey im stil tryin to regain my voice that was lost durin the celebrations
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
I agree, life long LFC fan bust those ratings are generous. Dirk Kuyt had a poor game in my opinion…tireless maybe, but on more than one occassion wasted chances in the final third.
Great goal from Torres after a peach of a pass from Yossi – move of the game deserving of what was really the match winning goal.
My ratings:
Reina: 7
Johnson: 6
Aurelio: 8
Insua: 6
Carragher: 7
Benayoun: 9
(Skrtel): 6
Mascherano: 8
Lucas: 7
Torres: 8
(Ngog): 7
Kuyt: 5
Benitez: 8
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Liverpool are a one man team, eh? Well there goes that theory!
If anything, I’d say United without Rooney would come to a screeching halt. I also find it quite amusing how they’re suddenly calling Darren Fletcher their best player, and how his absence cost them the match.
If the scum’s best player is Darren Fletcher then I am a very, VERY happy man
RaNE - October 26th, 2009 at 11:41 am
lucas probably had the best game of his life in a liverpool shirt and its good to see what we can get out of him and hopefully his form continues
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Good ratings at 11:28am (really 10:28 am), although maybe Lucas deserved an 8 as well.
saif - October 26th, 2009 at 11:44 am
guy giving the ratings you forgot about agger
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
So i did, apologies:
Agger: 8
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
As we were shown the team are good enough to win any/every game as long as Rafa sticks to a good positive formation and plays the experienced players!
Lets hope this is the way we play for the rest of the season.
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Liverpool is a very very awesome team even without gerrard……….. and even though torres was injured…….. he scored!!!!! Now thats the spirit of a Liverpoolian
Retryboy - October 26th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Only just got in from celebrating we got the performance and result we needed. aurelio, benayoun, carragher all immense even when they got their 5 minutes injury time for no reason there was never any fear of united creating anything hopefully this can be the start of a long winning run! and lucas best game he has had for us
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
.great performance
isaac hunt - October 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
reina 7 (had nothing to do!)
insua 7(looked a bit nervous at the start)
agger 9 (rooney and berbatov are still in his pocket)
carragher 9(same as agger)
johnson 8 (very good defending)
lucas 9 (where did that come from?)
mascherano 9(ran his balls off)
kuyt 7 (ran his balls off but lacks quality)
benayoun 9 (should play behind torres every match)
aurelio 8 (gives us a better balance defensive wise)
torrees 10 (not many can play at 80% and make fools of ferdinand and vidic)
rafa 9.9 (should have put voronin on!!!!!!!)
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
the back four yesterday is the teams best and should be used all the time. Aggar really is a fine centre half in the Hansen Mould. I hope to God he is not sold by Rafa any time soon…….
Aquilani4goals - October 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Can you beat that,wonderful performance…liverpool too hot for man u..when man u come close they get burnt…
Retryboy - October 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Reina 7 (never troubled) johnson 8 (top class defending) insua 6 (comfortable against valencia who again looks shit lack of pace still worrying though) carragher 9 (commanding, dominating) agger 9 (adds culture to compliment carragher’s all action style) mascherano 9 (did what he does best got frustrated after getting penalised for good tackles but you can’t take the fire out of his game) lucas 7 (great first half one of his best performances in a liverpool shirt quiet second half) aurelio 8 (has to be in the team week in week out if only for his set piece delivery have never seen him have as much effect on a game as yesterday) kuyt 6 (hard work but some poor decisions why didn’t he shoot!!) Benayoun 9 (have wanted to see him in this role for a long time the new beardsley!) Torres 8 (worked hard things weren’t going his way but then he got the chance and you just knew he was gonna bury it!)
Rafa 10 (got it spot on)
Red_Phoenix - October 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Agger is better than skrtel, injuries are his only problem. He has an attcking threat, both shooting and in the air. seems to have more pace and is more assured than skrtel. I hope he stays fit and in the team for the year, we would be a lot better for it. Player ratings
Reina 7
Johnson 7 [defended well and didn't leave us open at the back]
Carragher 8 [typical battling performance]
Agger 8 [same as Carragher]
Insua 7
Benayoun 9 [man of the match, never a sub]
Mascherano 7 [would be 8 barring the red card]
Lucas 8 [not a fan but best game for the club, shows he'a a DM not CM/AM]
Aurelio 8 [great game all round]
Kuyt 7 [wasteful in the last third, but tireless effort]
Torres 8.5 [80% fit, can't wait till 100%, what a game]
Rafa 9 [got it right with what he has, hope he keeps it up]
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
retryboy spot on mate…i have not been the biggest fan of lucus but yesterday really surprised me, i would have given him man of the match. i thought he got stuck in, and really bossed a experienced united midfield. yes he gave quiet a few free kicks away but i think he’s timing will get better, he is our most improved player so far, and he’s just converted me to a fan… carra was awesome i mean this guy is supposed to be “past IT”, or so some say… i would say he is “IT”. The tackle on carrick, amazing… Agger looked comfortable and took care of rooney and berba… our defence looked really good. was happy skrtel was left on bench…and what the hell has happened to benni boy?????
i mean towards the end of last season the guy was amazing, but he’s like another player this season truly a Match winner…. some clever liverpool fan said he was like beardsley,, great comment… with aqua man coming back the midfield is starting to look very tasty…..
personally i would stick riera and kuyt on the wings. although aurelio is the set peice king… and have one defensive midfielder, masch or lucus.. and have aqua/benni and gerrard playing behind torres..who needs whats his name,,, gabi alinso or something….
we are starting to look pure class again..
Aquaman - October 26th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
You called, anonymous? (GNYAAAHAHHAHA! REGISTEREARARERAR! sorry.)
Great post, look forward to reading some more (provided you regiSTEERAREARARA! GAHHAahaa…. harah ….hrng….hnm….. phew)
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Me No Register!
Aquaman - October 26th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Me know where you live. Me hunt you down and register you while you sleep.
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Man U was good but liverpool is better
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
I am a fan of Lucus. He has had nothing but stick from all the LFC fans since he arrived at anfield. the fact is he has never had a proper run of games and how do you expect someone to settle into a squad and play well if they a game here-and-there. he will prove to be a growing talent in the years to come if he is given regular starts. He got a huge amount of attention from all the top clubs in europe just before he joined liverpool and if finally showing us why!!!!!!
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
sorry i meant to say if they get a game here and there. to the comment above.
anonymous - October 26th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Great performance liverpool
Retryboy i was at the game yesterday and insua struggled aginst valencia it was a good job Aurlio was playing to cover for him he had a great game. Insua struggled against lyon which in my view upet part of the balance of the side.
Lets hope thisis our bad patch and that we push on from here.
Regards
Pete
Donavan Ried - October 26th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Three Blackburn player plus a couple form French league have come down with “Swine Flu” …… Blackburns Carling Cup match my be called off
jimmyk - October 26th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
can i just point out exactly how good lucas played (AGAIN). the boy is getting better and better and better.
player of the season contender if he plays like this throughout.
and if ngog keeps banging in goals every time he comes on he will make things v.difficult for nemeth when he comes back.
anonymous - October 27th, 2009 at 12:23 am
What a cracking performance and a phenomenol result!
Assuming 10 to be “perfect”, 7 to be “good” and 5 to be “could try harder”, my ratings are :-
Reina 8 – having a great season – must be pushing Casillas for South Africa
Insua 6 – pace continues to worry and decision making not always the best yet
Johnson 7 – less dynamic going forward, but some lovely defending
Carragher 7 – would have been 8, but for the potentially dodgy decision to bring down Owen, with another ref that could all have gone wrong
Agger 8.5 – good to see him back, the pick of the defense
Lucas 7 – best I’ve seen him, but still no Alonso (I know, time to stop harping on, but in reality, we still miss him)
Mascherano 8 – great attitude, very effective, just work on that decision making thing and we’re sorted
Benayoun 8 – very dangerous,shame he is so lightweight, needs a minder – good job we have Masch for that
Aurelio 8 – what a left foot, shame about the head
Kuyt 8 – not the best in front of goal, but his attitude is inspirational and he never, ever gives up on anything – the number of times he breaks up opposition moves before they get started and the number of Liverpool moves he gets started by harrassing the opposition helps the rest to look good
Torres 8 – not fit and still an 8 – worldclass
Aquilani4goals - October 27th, 2009 at 4:29 am
no doubt about liverpool we are winning the epl this season if we can put up the same performance against man u even better…
anonymous - October 27th, 2009 at 4:43 am
wow! look at every1 sayin liverpoool guna win d EPL n dat lucas is awesome…. Yeh nt doubt liverpool dominated utd, but 1game isn’t enough 2 convince me dat lucas can keep dat same form, along wit carragher, kuyt, ngog… 2 many par performances dis season 4 me 2 get carried away… Dis is a game liverpool needed 2 kick start dere season but i wont b surprised if liverpool drop points nxt week, its been dere achilles heel, beatin top teams but losing or droppin points 2 lesser clubs. Eg – Lyon, Sunderland, Fiorentina, Aston Villa, Spurs… Beatin d top teams in EPL dnt win titles, its bein consistant. Jst 2 cap things off ne1 culd av scored d goal dat david ngog scored… even a guy wit a dog n white cane was odds on 2 score… Gr8 performance by liverpool against utd… well done
Retryboy - October 27th, 2009 at 6:02 am
Isaac not accepting comments on the other story so will respond on here… I am not eating any words its the same squad that you have been blaming for the poor run that just played united off the park so think that proved my point more than yours. rafa did some of the things a lot of us that have knowledge on the game have been crying out for him to do. Don’t try to tell me how to support my club.
Retryboy - October 27th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Lucas has improved loads still think he will only ever be good enough to be a squad player we are all rating him at 7/8 because of the crap we have seen before out of him if stevie g put in that performance would have been a 6
anonymous - October 27th, 2009 at 6:18 am
Kop King
I am still gravely worried about kuyts l;ack of pace and believe it seriously takes the edge off of liverpool when they attack as there where a couple of moments when he should have been away but instead just held it up well sort off.
anonymous - October 27th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Kop king
Lucas is DM and potentially an excellent one at that but i would never play him in any other position.
...samlfc.... - October 27th, 2009 at 8:48 am
I would Give out ratings for each player but i’m really ill so i’m just goingto say that: Lucas played his best game in liverpool shirt, Torres can now be called the best Striker on the planet if he was only 80% fit and Yossi was class!
I’ll give proper ratings when i feel better which is hopefully soon!
saif - October 27th, 2009 at 9:39 am
this is from liverpool website
Javier Mascherano will miss Liverpool’s Carling Cup trip to Arsenal on Wednesday after being sent off in the 2-0 win over Manchester United.
The one-match suspension follows a late challenge on Edwin van der Sar for which referee Andre Marriner awarded a second yellow card.
Mascherano will be back in contention for next weekend’s trip to Fulham.
damn well then now eitherlucas has to be in mid with A aquiulani B gerrard or C one of the youngsters(spearing, plessisect)
saif - October 27th, 2009 at 9:44 am
from bbc
Arsenal v Liverpool
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Wednesday, 28 October 2009
Carling Cup
Home Team Score Away Team Time
Arsenal v Liverpool 19:45
ARSENALLIVERPOOLPossession
Arsenal 50% Liverpool 50% Shots on target
Arsenal 0 Liverpool 0 Shots off target
Arsenal 0 Liverpool 0 Corners
Arsenal 0 Liverpool 0 Fouls
Arsenal 0 Liverpool 0
Carling Cup fourth round
Venue: Emirates Stadium Date: Wednesday, 28 October Kick-off: 1945 GMT
Coverage: BBC Sport website, BBC Radio 5 live, BBC local radio & highlights on The League Cup Show on BBC One and this website at 2255 GMT on 28 October
TEAM NEWS
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is again expected to field several of the club’s youngsters for Wednesday evening’s Carling Cup tie.
The likes of Sanchez Watt, Gilles Sunu, Mark Randall and Francis Coquelin, who featured in the third round, are expected to be involved.
Liverpool may also make changes following their victory against Manchester United on Sunday.
Winger Albert Riera is still sidelined with a hamstring injury.
MATCH PREVIEW
Arsenal’s youngsters looked superb in the previous round against West Brom and now get another chance to show their potential.
Manager Arsene Wenger uses the Carling Cup to assess his brightest prospects and this match is likely to give an indication of how well some of them are progressing.
Liverpool, who beat Manchester United on Sunday, are the most successful club in League Cup history and are bidding to lift the trophy for a record eighth time.
But the omens are against them ahead of their trip to the capital. Liverpool have been knocked out of this competition by London clubs in each of the last five seasons, suffering defeats against Chelsea (twice), Arsenal, Tottenham and Crystal Palace.
MATCH FACTS
Head-to-head
• Liverpool are unbeaten in the last seven league and cup matches between these clubs, although five have been drawn.
• Arsenal’s last win against Liverpool was 6-3 at Anfield in the League Cup quarter-final in January 2007.
Arsenal
• Arsenal, the 1987 and 1993 winners, have reached at least the last eight in each of the last six seasons.
• The Gunners have a 100% home record this season, having won all of their seven matches at the Emirates Stadium.
Liverpool
• Liverpool have not won away from home since their victory at Leeds in the previous round.
• They are also yet to score an away goal since that match at Elland Road.
no macherano cos of ban check liverpool’s official website but he can play against fulhanm
Retryboy - October 27th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Its time to give the quality youngsters a chance and then maybe people will see arsenal aren’t the only club with world class youths.
Retryboy - October 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Would like to see Gk-cavalieri RB-darby LB-insua CB-skrtel CB-ayala CM-spearing CM-lucas ACM-benayoun(first half) aquilani (second half) LM-riera (if fit) RM-babel CF-ngog
anonymous - October 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Reina – 7 not much to do but is definately one of the best keepers around
Insua – 6 nervy but worked hard in the end
Agger – 7 calm and collected, sweeped up everyfing for carragher
Carragher – 10 battled for absolutely everyfin, was an absolute animal
Johnson – 7 great going forward, vast improvement defending
Aurelio – 7 did his job well, kept giggs n co under wraps
Lucas – 7 best performance for liverpool so far
Masherano – 7 was like a bulldog chasing a cat, hunted down everyone
Benayoun – 9 is a match winner
Kuyt – 6 wasnt at his best, great movement to see vidic get his marching orders
Torres – 8 waited for his glorious opportunity to score and took it with flying colours.. best striker in the world for me bar none!