Liverpool Ready to Make £16.5m Bid for Valencia Star Mata
by YNWA on October 29th, 2009 348 words | 103 commentsRafa hopes for financial injection to make move for impressive young attacker.
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Liverpool have been linked with a £16.5 million move for Valencia winger Juan Mata.
Valencia are struggling financially and desperately need to raise funds. The club’s two most prized assets – David Villa and David Silva – have so far remained at the Mestalla, despite keen interest from the likes of Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Real Madrid and Barcelona.
However, on Tuesday, Valencia director Fernando Gomez admitted the club may have to sell both, adding: “The club made a great effort to keep our players this summer but our economic situation remains very serious.Fernando Torres plays down money matters at Liverpool as move for David Villa fades
“It was a success to keep them, but there comes a point when you can’t stand it any more.”
Now it looks like Mata will be joining them through the exit door, with Rafa Benitez reportedly willing to pay up to £16.5m for the 21-year-old Spain international.
Mata’s current contract is until 2012, but he is only on £10,000 a week and has turned down a new, improved deal. (Daily Telegraph)
In theory this all sounds well and good until you realise that in order to buy someone we need money to do so. With any luck Messrs Hicks and Gillett (if still at the club by then) will perhaps give Rafa some spending money in January and perhaps attempt to sign this impressive Spanish youngster.
Juan Mata is a top notch attacker who can play in a number of positions but perhaps out wide he is at his most effective and in many ways could be a far more likely capture than the likes of his Valencia teammates, David Villa and David Silva.
The La Liga club is still very much in a financial quagmire and it appears they are slipping ever deeper and the clubs need for cash could help us get the 21 year old for less than the price quoted.
YNWA
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anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
He is indeed a top player. If we could somehow pay for the player in installments, like Aquilani, then perhaps we could pull it off.
Retryboy - October 29th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Or we could lose the likes of itandje, degen, dossena, voronin, kyrgiakos… about 10 million in transfers and 10 million in wages over a year freed up for one quality signing. You can’t expect the owners to keep funding transfers when we have a ridiculously huge squad. Next year squad limits come in and so we have to move these players on and trust our young players to be back ups well happy about that because we have far better young players than these!
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Can we first please clear out all the dross thats floating about then see where we stand.
lots of good things to come from last nights game but before we get wingers 2nd rate defenders and worse 4th rate strikers like the ones that played last night!!!! lets build something that can compete and challange on all fronts.
Y.N.W.A
Aquilani4goals - October 29th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
rafa sell ,babel=7mil,voronin=4,dossena=6 total17mil,mata is quality we need a top winger
Aquilani4goals - October 29th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
we need a young wenger,i tried of kuyt playin on the right wing,that wing should be for beneyoun,mata on the left wing riera as back up ,babel back to ajax for good,voronin back to urkrain,dossena back to italy…
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
In recent times we have seen that riera is not really performing at his best for us. Whereas silva will assure us of a decent wing player.
Players out – Riera(12M), Babel(12M), Dossena(4M), Voroning (3M) + 20M from owners and 10M from last year which brings us around 60M to spend next summer.
Players In – Silva (22M), Mata (16M), Hamsik (12M), and wed still have 10M left. And wed need a decent striker too. a young hot blooded, cold headed finisher. Torres and Nemeth need another striker.
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Or we could get the 60 mill get Villa for 45 mill rest on Mata!!!!
Aquilani4goals - October 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Liverpool have been linked with a £16.5 million move for Valencia winger Juan Mata in January, as ongoing concerns over the finances of the Spanish club may result in them being forced to sell the player.
Although the club’s two main stars – the two Davids, Silva and Villa – have remained at Valencia, despite serious interest from many of Europe’s biggest clubs, their sporting director Fernando Gomez hinted that lesser players may be sold to ease the financial burden.
Reds’ manager Rafael Benitez is reportedly keen to raid his former club and is willing to splash as much as £16.5m to acquire the services of the 21-year-old Spain international.
Mata has a contract at the Mestalla until 2012 but is reported to be on £10,000-a-week wages – relatively low for a player of his stature.
The player’s father, also his agent, told The Sun: “We want Valencia to recognise the kid’s true quality, and it’s not only a matter of money.”
The youngster decided to play down the link with the Anfield outfit, explaining that football is the only thing on his mind at the moment.
“This matter is all down to the club and my agent,” he said.
“Benitez is a big coach but I just want to concentrate on my game without any distractions.”
Aquilani4goals - October 29th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
lets spend money on jan transfer let not wait till summer transfer.we need to strengthen the team for now..
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
we need something in the Jan window!!!!! or are season will go up in smoke ( if it hasnt allready!!!!!)
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
yh get this guy asap and swap babel for luis suarez asap cause then
ST: torres,suarez,ngog,kuyt
RM:benayoun,Kuyt,el zhar
LM:Mata,Riera
CM:Mascherano,gerrard,aquilani,lucas
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
so we need a ST,RM,LM
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Mata is a lot better than Silva and will cope with the premier league physical side, where as Silva would be a little lightweight in my opinion.
If we get get Mata and then our first 11 is sorted -
reina
Johnson Carragher Agger Insua
Kuyt/Yossi Masch Aquilani Mata
Gerrard
Torres
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
please please please please please please please
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Retryboy - October 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Definitely need another attacking midfielder to cover for gerrard and aquilani and i think benayoun looks better on the left than the right so would look at bringing in a right midfielder as babel will never get a chance on the right even though it is the only place he looks quality.
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
silva would be like benayoun.
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Mata would be a quality addition, and would fit nicely on the left flank, then with, masch, lucas, aquilani, benayoun, kuyt, riera and aurelio fighting it out in the rest of midfield, if we can maintain sum sort of record in the league up until january we stil have a shot at the league.
with gerrard and aquiliani back, we will be unbeatable!
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Nice line up , but do we all think Masch will be there next season!!!!!
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
depends how much we win.
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I think his playstaion and heart are set to Barca no matter what!!!!
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
yh just hope if he goes we get players aswell like basquets and bojan or 50 mill wich could go towards buying quite a few players or one or two quality players.
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
would you like it if we swapped babel for luis suarez +5mill hes scored 54 in 75
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
mata would be a good buy hes more of a left winger than silva and he is younger and alot cheaper.
we would still need a right mid and a striker
we should sell voronin,babel,degen,the greek,dossena and sign carlton and milner, both young good english players.
and to fill the gaps in let the youngests fill in, players like kelly and ayala for centre back. darby for right back, pacheco,nemeth,ngog, eccleston to fill in for upfront mavinga for leftback plessis and spearing for cdm/cm we only realy need to sign 2/3 players and our youngests can fill in the gaps
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
After last night do we feel that Spearing and Plessis are up to it though?
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
but if we can keep mascherano and buy mata then wed have quite a lot of class players: johnson,agger,mata,mascherano,gerrard,aquilani,torres,riena,benayoun
then good players :kuyt,riera,aurelio,insua,lucas
upcoming players:ngog,nemeth
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
i just feel spearing maybe abit to slow and small, plessis i dont know did well when he played arsenal previously.i think both would do better next to some one like mascherano,aquilani or gerrard.
if ngog had babels strength and speed then he could be amazing already.
Scouse Magic - October 29th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I’d love Mata, but as I’ve said on many occasions before we desperately need home grown players as well.
We cannot blow all of our cash on a foreign player when we are down to the bare bones of home grown talent. If we had £100M to spend then we could do both, but we don’t so my preference is still to bring in some home grown talent, unless Rafa can do some wheeling and dealing to do some swaps and get some cash in reply.
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
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I say:
Sell= Vorronin( 4m), Riera( 11m), Babel(Swap), Dossena( 6.5m), Mascherano(35 m)Dont want to but it seems likely ATM unfortunately
Buy= Mata( 15m), Suarez( Swap), Hamisk( Dossena+ 8m), Villa/Aguero( 40m)
We’ll fill our weak positions and have 1 marquee world class signing to join torres.
reina
johnson skrtel agger insua
benayoun/kuyt aquilani gerrard mata
Villa/Aguero Torres
Sub: Hamisk, Lucas, Suarez, Carragher, Ngog, Aurelio etc
That is a title winning team!!!
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
yh exactly
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Though our transfers in summer rely completely on the damn yanks selling!
Warren Bloggs - October 29th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Well I think after last night I am confident we do have quite a good squad albeit a better one then we are given credit for. Remember, how many injuries we have had this season, yes are bench has looked weak at times this season but this will change when are players return. Carra and Agger are back on form judging from the last couple games. Skrtel, Kyrgiakos and Ayala are good cover. We have good strength in the full back areas such as Johnson, Degen, Kelly and Darby on the right and the likes of Insua, Aurelio and Dossena on the left although i feel the italian should be sold back to italy in exchange for some much needed cash. We have top youngsters such as El Zhar, Ngog, Pacheco, Eccleston, Nemeth, Insua, Ayala, Kelly etc etc. So i feel we should sell on the deadwood such as Dossena, Itandje, Voronin and Babel, poss. Kyrgiakos as well. As our squad is massive and needs to be trimmed starting with the dead weight.
I imagine that the likes of Dossena, Voronin, Babel etc would raise in the region of £12-15m in itself more or less enough to sign someone of Juan Mata’s quality. Mata would be fantastic and with give us more creativity, yes he is a super winger but remember he was originally a striker so he would give us more strenth up-front. I feel the squad needs only a little trimming with ine or two attacking additions and then we would be well on the way to have a great great squad mixed with youth and experience.
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
yh well purslow said there WILL be inestment within 6 months.
Wether that means one of them selling or if that means there will be another co-owner. But i cant wait another season we need it in january.
Warren Bloggs - October 29th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
It would be incredibly un-wise to sell too many players! Albert Riera still has a future at the club in my eyes albeit as a sub. You forget we need more quality in depth so we should only sell the deadwood such as Voronin, Babel, Dossena ect. All must be done to keep Masch at the club and i think if we get on a good run he will tie his future to the club remember his game against the mancs that wasn’t the performance of a man who had no love for the ‘pool was it? Rafa is doing a good job of bleeding the youngsters through have patience everyone, we will come good.
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
we were the leagues top scorers but it seems when we need it then we dont have that extra quality, like stoke last year.that run of losses put the quad on really low confidence so then they werent playing well but after the win on sun they look back to their best and with aquilani back it will be much better.mata could add that game changing moment when its needed and will also finish a chance when he gets it.
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
yh id only like us to sell voronin,babel,dossena but then buy so that we have 2 or 3 good quality player for each position.
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
lets face it in todays market we are looking at 25 mill each for every player we need in the places we need ( striker ect),
and lets face it we just dont have the money for that.
Plus you can guarantee that will manc fans gillett and hicks will prob take half the money benitez makes in sales anyway!!!!
...samlfc.... - October 29th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Mata would be a great signing but i’m with Scouse magic in wanting some English players just incase that 5/6 home grown rule comes in.
Please can people stop going on about Silva i mean yes he is good but not what eveyron make him out to be and the Silva rumour has been around fr about 3 seasons if Rafa wanted him he would of got him in that time……Villa is impossible to get as he costs millions although i would love it i he joined
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
25mill is alot of money
mata would only cost 16mill
carlton cole would only cole 15mill
milner around 20mill
defour 15mill
adam johnson 10mill
all them players are young quality players and less than 25mill
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
We will only get villa if we are playing fantasy football,
im with samlfc and Scouse magic, English player could pave the way with 5/6 on its way plus would be a pleasure to see a team of young english talent lifting the every cup under the sun!!!!
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Yea 25 mill is a lot of players but we want world class not these usual pap we get carlton cole, johnston, defour ( world beaters im not sure)
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
vandervaart? seriously vdv is under rated. look at his price. 12mil? crazy..
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
vdv is pure class , and lfc could help push him on to be the player many clubs hoped he would be!!!
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Buy 2 players from valencia…
Mata and Villa/Silva..
Then liverpool need to spend their fund to find new defensive midlfield if mascherano will leave the club..
Need a good replacement..
Ian-Rushs-Tash - October 29th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
all this while saving for the stadium?
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
vdv please rafa u cunt
Mark G. - October 29th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Anonymous at 4:59
You sick puppy, get your head examined. I understand, this is how you adress your mother, you motherfucker. In an unlikely case, you would have a pleasure to meet Mr. Benitez, you adress him “Sir”, do you think you can memorize it you halfbred asshole.
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
1.we only have 12 mil budget in january.
2.for all of people who think suarez will come to us on cheap, you might be dissapointed.barca also chasing him and barca maybe can offer higher value for him better than us..and if some of you want to swap him with babel, i don’t think ajax will consider that..so then, let’s forget him and get more realistic target..
3.babel still 23, i don’t think he same crap like voronin or dosenna.at least he can bolsters our squad and give us more variaty in attack..also if we sell him, i don’t think we can get 11 mil like we paid for him 3years ago..maybe only around 7-8 mil and that’s a big loss.we can’t afford to sell on big loss again after sell keane..
4.i agree..spearing and plessis are not good enough in our midfield.why not sell them and replace with victor palsson from our reserve too..as for homeground player, we sell spearing but we can promote steven irwin who played very well in reserve or maybe david amoo or ecclestone???
5.for some reason, i think how about if we sell cavaleri??reina almost play all the game last season and this season.i think we still can recoup about 4-5 mil to add budget.for the backup GK, how about we use bouzanis or gulazci??both of them has been showing the talent and desevre chance to prove them self..
6.so i think this is the scenario:
a)sell voronin and dosena+itandje+cavaleri,plessis,spearing,elzhar(i hope so) and hope we can get around 15 mil ++
b)i recommend this signing:
-adam johnson for 6 mil (he will become a very good player)
-vdv for 8-10 mil POUND (12 mil euro)
-nilton from brazil for free (hope he will get permit)
-striker for around 12 mil.. maybe pandev??any idea for striker??zines from west ham also has good potential.but not charlton cole.he is so overated now.i think darrent bent is better than him.not worth for more than 10-12 mil..
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
no matter wat happens i just dnt want 2 see babel n voronin afta january hicks n gillett too…babel is overrated and i hate it wen ppl say he is d nxt henry..as far as im concerned babel is useless on the pitch:always loosing possesion,and is actually dumb in makin decisions..no footballing intelligence…sucka
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I love how people come on here listing we should sell 4 players and buy 4 in the same window…that is hilarious.
REALISTICALLY how many do you think we could get? It would be 2 tops…
Id say sell voronin (3m)
dossena (4m)
kyrgiakos (3m)
Thats 10 million.
Put it towards a decent Left/right winger.
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
yh but in the reserves spearing is nearly always the man of the match when he played v real madrid alongside mascherano?alonso whoever it was he looked really good and with plessis he did good when he played v arsenal a year or 2 ago when he was with the rest of the 1st team.
it was amazing the way after the lyon game lots of people where putting insua in the sales list.
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
anonymous – October 29th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
agree with u.but vdv doesn’t want to leave madrid.what about michael johnson??he maybe only will cost around 6-8 mil.save money and get sotiris ninis (8mil) for RM and vladimir koman (AM, RM, LM, FW) from sampdoria for around 4 mil..get kuyt , babel and ngog for the striker.and we get better midfield with those purchace..
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
a decent L/RM and a striker for backup. i feel we need a taller striker like carew.
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
yh a decent L/RM and a striker for backup. i feel we need a taller striker like carew.
Ryan Babel - October 29th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
and do you really think we could krygiakos for 3mill?
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
spearing too small for premier league.reserve league is better level than premier league..
plessis?? i don’t know.but he seems not progress in 2 years and we can find another player.but i heard he’s just offered new contract..
better sell el zhar..doesn’t has any speciality.small, weak, poor when playing..
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
sorry i mean reserve league is different level with premier league.
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
to anon, spearing isnt too small…..he isnt lightweight either.. el zhar is a decent enough player , he probs wudve started last nite but hes injuired
Donavan Ried - October 29th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
anonymous – October 29th, 2009 at 6:00 pm …….”spearing too small for premier league” ………… Owen,Zola,Juninho were all too small and they were all great players
Retryboy - October 29th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Add mascherano to that list as he is more in that role donovan as all of our young central midfielders are hence why they don’t look as good without an attacking foil people need to give the youngsters chance lucas has had over a year of chances and spearing has played 4 times in the champions league was awesome at leeds our best player Sunderland was a disastrous tactical experiment where no one played well and last night he worked really hard didn’t do badly at all in covering the back four.
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Donavan
Anonymous 6.00pm you are right ,this Don fella doesnt know a lot he is just a Rafa hater.
Spearing struggled against leeds and he struggled last night he is small he isnt very pacy and he is not the most skillfull the only reason Rafa is using him is because he is English(Champions league) i hope i’m prove wrong but at 20 going on 21 in November he should be pushing for a place in the first team.
As for that prat Donavan yep he is right the latter three were small but they were world class at a young age. go and do your home work
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
is this the same mata that the papers said today arsenal are intrested in buying not liverpool another worthless story from ynwa
Donavan Ried - October 29th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
anonymous – October 29th, 2009 at 7:42 pm ……. There is a reason why i don,t like anonymous post, That becuase no one can see what people are really say …….
How many for you were calling for Rafa’s head after the Sunderland game? …… I have been consistance in my views of Rafa ….. He is just not good enough to take us to the next level ……
The team we have is good enough to beat Man utd and Chelsea on occassion, good enough to match up to abeat most of the top teams in Europe…….
So how come we keep falling to the Sunderlands,Villias, and wigans of the world? …..
Yes i know Man Utd,Chelsea, Arsenal occassionly lose to them ( the word was”Occassionly”) we do it with regularity, unless it’s a must win game …….
This has to be down to tactics and the manager. Nothing else …….. Add to this Rafa’s stubbornness and the fact that he never seem to learn from his mistakes
He constanly moaned about Parry’s slowness to move in the transfer market, then proves no swifter himself ……
Is it then any wonder that some of us here have lost patiences with Rafa?……
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Players out – Babel(12M), Dossena(4M), Voronin (4M) + 20M from owners and 10M from last year which brings us around 50M to spend next summer.
Players In – Mata (16M), Hamsik/VDV (12M). And wed need a decent striker too . a young hot blooded, cold headed finisher. Torres and Nemeth need another striker.
My Dream Lineup :: Reina,Johnson,Carra,Agger,Aurelio, Mascherano,Aquilani,Gerrard,Torres, Mata, Benayoun
Bench – Skrtel, Insua, Kelly, Kuyt, Riera, Nemeth & a Young SS / ST
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I think if mascherano leaves we should fork out 10-12 m to sign cambiasso, in my opinion an equally quality n efffective player.
If we can get him along with Mata, Hamisk, Suarez and a world class signing….probz like Villa/Aguero then we hav a PL winning team for sure.
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
All this transfer talk depends souly on the yanks selling, so i have a plan fr both.
With funds available: Sell are many fringe players(Vorronin, Reira etc) and buy
Mata(16m), Defour/VdV(12-14m), Villa.(35m),Silva(22m)
Without funds( only about 15m-20m fr summer):
Suarez(Swap fr babel), Mata(16m), Lavezzi(9m) +recall Nemeth
Only sell Vorronin + Bael
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
GET VAGNER LOVE!!!!
GET VAGNER LOVE!!!!
He is a top notch striker fr only 9-11m!
RaNE - October 29th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
People who are saying to not get mata clearly need there head looked at, he is a quality winger from valencia who can play roughly the same pace as the premierleague style. Yes he is Worth 16mil BUT he is worth it I can guarentee and so can a few others leaving comments that he would def be a success.
as many people have said other alternatives yes they can and may be good but theyre gambles and unsurinly if they will be any good in the prem. Take Vagner Love by anonymous – October 29th, 2009 at 9:28 pm how do we know hes going to be a success id rather have someone who is maybe in a better league roughly playing in a similar pace because they adapt and play better take torres as ONE BIG example
anonymous - October 29th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
2-0 !!! FUCK YOU DIRTY MANK INBREDS
Retryboy - October 29th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Anon at 7.54 Ynwa has only linked us with mata, koman, ananidze, taylor, Kjaer, davids, beckham, adriano, klose, heskey, pandev, honda, petrov, munian and young this month! Its only 15 players wait for november and december before he really gets going lol
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 3:37 am
Even if we are given 12mp.We should do this in the January transfer window:
1)Buy Pandev for 3mp+ voronin.
2)Swap Skrtel with Kjaer.
3)Sell Babel for 7mp.
4)Sell Dossena for 4mp
5)Buy Mata for 16mp + 2mp on addons.
Gk-Reina,Cavalieri
RB-Johnson,Kelly,Degen
CB-Carragher,Agger,Kjaer,Kyrgiakos
LB-Insua,Aurelio,Mavinga.
CDM-Masch,Spearing
CM-Lucas,Aquilani
RM-Kuyt,Benayoun
LM-Pandev,Mata
ST-Torres,Ngog
But then honestly if we get Pandev we wont need Mata.Pandev is a cheaper player at this moment has a terrific first touch equivalent to Berbatov and can play as the LWM,SS,ST
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 3:39 am
donavon u are the biggest twat ever….rafa loves the club…if we fail against these teams u mention it is not because of the manager or tactics…have u ever maybe thought its the players on the pitch maybe thinkin its an easy game?as much as i hate 2 think that,it is a very good possibility. everything liverpool do wrong is rafas fault in ur opinion…..u never give him credit when we win or perform amazingly (man utd sunday for example!!!!!!!!!) though..y is that?..cos ur a tunnel visioned knobhead…ur a miserable twat..go support the blue noses n leave liverpool 2 the real fans…the fans like myself singin rafa n the lads names throughout the games win lose or draw!!!! just fuck off!!!!
scouse not english
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Available Funds :: 20M(owner) + 10M (alonso sale) + Babel(12M) + Voronin(3M) + Dossena(4M) = around 45M
Marek Hamsik(attacking midfielder) – 10M + Dossena
Luis Suarez (winger/striker) – Ryan Babel + 5M or straight 15M
Juan Mata – 16M
40M – awesome squad with depth and rotating options. !
Ps – I WISH ! ! !
YNWA ! cumon rafa
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 6:09 am
honestly is mascherano leaves we sld try getting some english talent like tommy huddlestone and for flair and style we can go for ronaldhinho
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 6:10 am
if liverpool want villa or silva they need the money in january not next summer valencia need the money to pay off the banks or they get shut down
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 6:14 am
anonymous – October 30th, 2009 at 3:37 am
do you think palermo would like to swap skrtel and kjaer??no way..
where riera??he still our palyer..
i also don’t think lazio would interest with the offer..3mp +voronin..how about 4 mil+dosenna.maybe it sounds better for them..
Benji - October 30th, 2009 at 8:14 am
anon – October 30th, 2009 at 3:37 am
Just wondering….. but where is our best player and captain in your lil fantasy league team……. And Reira…..
PS… i think that Mata would be a good addition as hes young…. cheaper than silva and most of all versatile…..
Looking forward to the match against Fulham… should be interesting… Craven Cottage is never an easy place to play…. Looking forward to Aquilani playing as he looked promising @ Emirates
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 8:49 am
sell babel 8mil, voronin 3mil, dossena 4mil, itandje 2mil=16mil to go towards mata plus the 10 or so mil from alonso plus more to go to lavezzi or carlton cole simple
...samlfc.... - October 30th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Can people stop saying we should sell like 5 or 6 players as we have a paper thin squad as it is!!!!
Yes sell a 1-2 players but not 5 or 6.
And haha yes we have been linked with every player i can think of and its not even november yet lol
Scouse Magic - October 30th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Samlfc, we DONT have a wafer thin squad that’s the point we have approx 50 players on the books and only 15 of these are what i consider first team players.
We have to trim the squad of overrated and useless players and develop the youth alongside the first team.
If we can do this then we will get to a par with Arsenal, with the difference being we have more World Class players, this will hopefully help the youngsters develop so that we don’t have to spend millions on a player which could back fire.
Keane, Dossena, Babel as prime examples.
khan - October 30th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Yes bring him on.
This is a very good player and will fit right in.
My only worry is can LFC afford him?
Might have to sell some players though.
Babel
Vorronin
Reira
?????????
Donavan Ried - October 30th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Afternoon…samlfc…. Scouse Magic
…samlfc…. – October 30th, 2009 at 9:11 am ……. Scouse Magic is right there are a few players that we could in fact get rid of which would reduce the running cost(ie Wage bill) and free up some much needed monies for transfers
Retryboy - October 30th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Scouse magic… Spot on! We are talking about losing players only where we have younger and better in their positions 1-ITANDJE (reina, cavalieri, martin, gulacsi) 2-DEGEN (johnson, kelly, darby) 3-DOSSENA (LB-aurelio, insua/LM-benayoun,riera,aurelio) 4-VORONIN (torres, nemeth, ngog, kuyt, pacheco, ecclestone) 5-BABEL (LM-as above CF-as above RM-benayoun, kuyt, el zhar)
The group of young players we have can do the same for us as the beckham generation did for the scum truelly believe that but not until we trim the squad and get a couple of top quality players where we don’t have the cover or competition in the squad like we have no natural cover for aquilani or gerrard
Donavan Ried - October 30th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
(scouse not english) anonymous – October 30th, 2009 at 3:39 …………………
” if we fail against these teams u mention it is not because of the manager or tactics…..”
I know that we can not win ever game we play, but what i am looking for is a perfromance from the players that are picked and a good, flexable game plan. At time that game plan (Choosen by Rafa may i add) has been to ridged and he as too often failed to change it when it is not working. That has to be down to the manager, and him alone ….
“have u ever maybe thought its the players on the pitch maybe thinkin its an easy game?”
It is up to the manager to motivate the players and make it clear that every game is inportant and no teams should be classed as “easy” . If he does not do this then he is not doing his job properly. (Again down to the Manager)
“as much as i hate 2 think that,it is a very good possibility. everything liverpool do wrong is rafas fault in ur opinion…..u never give him credit when we win or perform amazingly (man utd sunday for example!!!!!!!!!)” …….
I did, and the game we lose to Arsenal ….. Infact, i have on occassion suck up for Rafa and Lucas on this very site …… although you may not agree i will not blame Rafa or anyone else if i feel that they are not at fualt …….
You are untitled to think of me in what ever light that you wish. ….. At least you have the guts to put a name to you post. For that i thank you
...samlfc.... - October 30th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Donavan and Scouse magic we have compared to most other teams (plus i wasn’t including youth) and selling 5 or 6 players to get one world class football player is NOT a good thing!for all them people who is saying sell 5 to get one! for instance if we sell Babel,Vorinin,Dossena and lets say Riera to get someone like Villa, we will gain one class striker but we would lose a back up for left back and a LM and although Babel isn’t a RM he’s playing there atm so we’ll be losing a RM aswell to get one quality striker!
we should really be selling one player or possibly 2 (if we’re overcrowding in one area) from lets say RM and get another Rm player and not sell loads of players from different positions. Thats what i was trying to say before and i understand if people disagree with me an i’m fine with that but this is my opinion and hen i say this i’m not talking to Donavan ried or Scouse magic i’m talking to the people who claim that selling 4 to get one is good when actually it isnt!
Aquilani4goals - October 30th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Money may be tight, the co-chairman are still bickering and the promised third party investment has not materialised, nevertheless the Sun could not resist in linking Liverpool to Juan Mata, Valencia’s 21-year-old left sided midfielder.
Mata began his career at Real Oviedo and after some impressive displays in the youth team Real Madrid snapped him up. At Madrid he went onto play for the club’s B team, Castilla, in the Segunda Division. In his one solitary season at Castilla he scored 10 goals in 39 appearances, making him the team’s second highest goal scorer.
Expecting a contract that reflected his good form, he was insulted by the offer the club made him and engineered a situation where Madrid had no choice but to sell him to Los Che.
Due to an injury to Vicente, he was thrust straight into the starting XI and made an immediate impact at his new club. He played a prominent part in Valencia’s Spanish Cup triumph.
The left footed midfielder loves to drift into the centre of midfield from he can attack the opposition head on or look for a killer through ball for his strikers to latch onto. He is quick and always looks to make himself available to pick up a pass. In addition, he is an excellent finisher and has bagged 23 goals in 68 games for Valencia. His reading of the game is also very good and he seems to pick the right option be it whether to pass or shoot.
As with many young footballers he has yet to fill out and is lacking in strength, which can see him outmuscled by bigger defenders. This will be problematic in the Premier League, but as he gets older he should get stronger. His heading is also poor.
With Valencia seeking to keep David Villa unless a ludicrous offer is tabled, it is likely that Meta may be prised away from the Mestalla for the right price. The club need to reduce their debt and without the bonus of Champions League money they need to generate some incoming cash. A price tag of €15 million will be what Valencia are looking for, so to buy him Benitez will have to sell first. If Rafa doesn’t splash the cash Mata will almost inevitably move to a bigger club in the summer.
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
i think we should sell babel and degen……………………………………and exchage wit any other gud players
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
valencia need to raise 50 million pounds in less than 10 months to pay off the banks or they will be shut down 15 million for mata will not solve there problems
Donavan Ried - October 30th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
…samlfc…. – October 30th, 2009 at 1:31 pm ………. I understand what you are saying, but we have the Young Reds who then will be given the chance to fill those roles, saving us money buy getting rid of 5 or 6 fringe players and also allowing us to gage just how good the Young Reds that step up to the plate really are………….
...samlfc.... - October 30th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Evening Donanvan Ried
Donavan Ried – October 30th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Yeah i understand now Thank you,scouse magic and other people who made me realise that!!! LOL i feel so dumb now ha!
but i wouldn’t sell all our fringe playes though because might need some for injuries
saif - October 30th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
we need to get our youth team back to how it was in the 90s churning out youngsters who have had successfull carreas eg gerrard carragher owen ect it saved us a lot of money plus it raised us a lot so like i was saying when are the next wonderkids going to come out of anfield so far ther has been one spearing the first to come through our accademy since gerrard
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
We’re all sayin
Sell babel for 12 reira for 12
But hu’s gonna buy them ?
I dnt think we should sell reira
becuz he’s good
babel voronin should go
thats it
the rest are ok
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
what about Dossena? Hes crap
Donavan Ried - October 30th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Evening …samlfc….
…samlfc…. – October 30th, 2009 at 7:55 pm ……..
Why should you feel dumb??? ….. what you said made sense in a lot of ways, no reason to put yourself down mate ……
Keep those opinions of yours coming
anonymous - October 30th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
What do you think about getting Gonzalo Higuain from Real Madrid? He is young, fast, scored 23 goals last season, has lost his place in the first team to Benzema and would only cost about 20 million!!! What do ya think?
RaNE - October 30th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
ok but i feel wing is are main prob at the moment but higuain and torres up front wouldnt be bad if only we had the cash
anonymous - October 31st, 2009 at 9:51 am
We have 20 million to spend and we need another striker and he can play on the right wing as well.
anonymous - October 31st, 2009 at 2:05 pm
i wd say sell
babel-10
voronin-4
dossena-4
riera-15
this gives 30-33 m pounds.
let owners with new sponsorship give a 30 m pounds
10 remaining from this summer sales.
this totally gives a 70 m pounds.
now we need a RM, LM, SUB LM, ST, MID
Buy Lennon-30 [english]
Mata-20
llorente-15[height=195 cms]
ws kill many defences with pw headers just we need as replacement in ase gerrard or torres gets injured to lead the line.
adam johnson-7
michael johnson-8[perfect longterm replacement for Gerrard]
if we can pull off some installments or bargains from above dealings we can buy all of them we wd be just menacing .
just assume this line up.
reina
johnson carra agger aurelio
lennon aquilani masch mata
gerrard
torres
Frightening isnt it
Now bench
Cava[gk]
skrtel
insua
lucas
benny
kuyt
llorente.
now we have torres,gerrard [for me hes striker] ,llorente,kuyt -ST
lennon,benny-RM
mata,A.johnson-LM
masch,aquilani,lucas,M.johnson-CM
G.johnson,degan-RB
aurelio,insua-LB
carra,agger,skrtel,kyrgia-CB
still we have few good youngsters like ngog, nemeth, spearing, elzhar,kelly,ayala
this should definitley be a title winning team with good mixture of youth and experience.
Just need to sell 4 dead woods and buy 2 worldclass wingers ,1 quality striker ,2 young players like johnsons and some good backing from our clown owners.
no 19 here we come.
no so called pundit can then question our teams depth.
YNWA
anonymous - October 31st, 2009 at 2:13 pm
a player that i would love as whenever ive seen lazio play looks really class got all the attributes needed like speed strength skill vgd finishing and composure. that player is Zarate. but yh i agree we need a big strong forward who can lead the line and hold up the play without torres and will cause defences trouble with their heigh like crouch did.examples would be Carew,LLorente,Dzeko.
also a winker mata
anonymous - October 31st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
*winger
Ryan Babel - October 31st, 2009 at 2:16 pm
yh i would like us to get the 2 johnsons from city and borogh both english young and cheap 5 mill each for positions we need.
Ryan Babel - October 31st, 2009 at 2:16 pm
borough*
Ryan Babel - October 31st, 2009 at 2:19 pm
i would also like to see adam pepper play for the 1st team in a season or 2
Ryan Babel - October 31st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
yh zarate would be grrrrr8