Liverpool Could Sign £13m Playmaker Rafael Van der Vaart
by YNWA on November 11th, 2009 473 words | 84 commentsRafa keen on talented Dutch bench warmer.
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Rafael van der Vaart has confirmed he will be leaving Spanish Giants Real Madrid in January and wants to move to another top European club, after rejecting a return to his old club Ajax.
Real Madrid will let the playmaker leave for £13million, which is roughly the amount they paid for him last season.
Real Madrid’s multi-million pound arrivals of Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo, and Karim Benzema, has led
Real needing to recoup some of their spending money.Real’s summer spending spree put Rafael Van der Vaart a long way down Madrid’s pecking order.
Van der Vaart confirmed reports he had rejected a move back to Amsterdam when he revealed to De Telegraf, “ in principle I find it too early to return to Ajax.”
He added: “I don’t know if I will stay at Real Madrid but there are options. My dream is to play in a major championship namely England, Italy or Germany. Other proposals do not interest me.”
The Dutchman’s inevitable departure from Real Madrid has alerted the interest of injury-hit Liverpool, who will are keen to sign the midfielder.
Liverpool have missed the slick passing of Xabi Alonso, and Van der Vaart, would surely be the ideal man to fill the gap left by the Spaniard.
Liverpool is currently seventh in the premier league table, and is in their worst run of form for 22 years.
If Benitez is to close the gap on their rivals at least to grab a top 4 spot, another creative player is needed. (Give Me Football – Official PFA Website)
As creative midfielders go Rafael Van der Vaart is in the higher echelon and its a crime the way he is only used as a sub at the Bernabeu and even more so when he had been fooled into thinking he had a Real Madrid future in the summer. After seeing the likes of Huntelaar, Sneijder and Robben all leave the club Rafael was assured he was a crucial part of the La Liga giants set up, but they were in fact just trying to play it safe and were in fact leading the Dutchman on. This season he started just one La Liga thus far out of of ten and is likely to be warming the bench for some time to come and It seems likely Rafael will leave the club in order to keep his career moving in the right direction.
I would greatly support any move for the 26 year old former Ajax and Hamburg player and if Rafa can get the cash together for a bid in the region of the £13m quoted, then it would be a bargain buy and one that could provide out midfield with the extra creativity we need.
YNWA
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isaac hunt - November 11th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
100% need a new out and out right winger first.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
I think we could get VDV. He is definitely going to leave Real Madrid and would jump at the chance at Anfield, where he would surely be first choice. He can play out wide as well in a central role, bring him in Rafa!
Digger - November 11th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
very versatile which is what Rafa seems to like. I think getting him at 13million would be a absolute bargain… i would love to pick up drenthe as well. stick 20million on the table for both and see what happens….
Digger - November 11th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
if we have 20 million that is
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
If Rafa shipped out Dossena, Voronin, Ngog, Lucas and Kuyt (this will cause a stir but his touch is terrible and his finishing even worse), we could recoup the £13million for VDV and have some money for David Villa too!
Retryboy - November 11th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Why would you want to sell ngog? Lucas is worth keeping too. If he is going to carry on playing 5 in midfield its essential to build the squad according to that would make a bit of a headache though when aquilani and gerrard are both available as well but a good headache.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Ngog , apart from his goal against Man U, has done nothing to show me he is worthy of being a Liverpool frontman. There is no killer instinct to score goals. Top strikers score for fun and he looks a long way off being a top striker. Lucas might be worth keeping but he needs to contribute some goals and I don’t see it happening. Aquilani, once fit, would displace him from the team and we have litle Spearing to bring through as backup. Just an opinion
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
I am a Liverpool fan and all i’m gonna say is that this move will not happen, not least because we have no money. You must try not be so naive, believe everyting that is written, as over the past 3 seasons there have been many rumours to which i have become excited over such as; Sergio Aguero apparently asking for a switch to Anfield, David Villa saying he wants to play club football with Torres, a DIC takeover, or perhaps more recently a proposed F6 takeover that never happened, and like all good things that could happen for our club, don’t actually occur and so that is why i must stress this move will NOT happen.
...samlfc.... - November 11th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Afternoon Retryboy, Issac hunt, Digger and Donavan ried and Kermit when they come on this page.
why get rid of Lucas? he is in the form of his lfie and is playing well as of late
i would love to have VDV but lets think about this he would have to play second fiddle to Aquilani and i don’t think he would want to and if we put him in defensive midfield he would struggle and we would be leaving out Mascherano and Lucas and if we put him in striker that mean Gerrard would be put into centre midfield causing Aquilani or Mascherano to sit out which neither would enjoy at all so i can’t see why should get VDV although i would love it if he came.
and i’m agreeing with Issac hunt on this we MUST!! get an out and out right winger…..that is essential and striker i feel is fine Nemeth will be a star when he comes back and N’gog is improving all the time an maybe have Kuyt as second stirker aswell. so i still say Right wing is our number one priority at present
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Hopefully hicks n gillet will realize the price of the club will drop if they fail to qualify for the champions league n give rafa some money
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I reckon we need some ar$e kicking steel in the midfield. That way Drogba really will get injured.
I wonder how some of todays lightweights ie:- your Ronaldos and Drogbas would have faired against the likes of Tommy Smith, Jimmy Case, Souey or Mcmahon. Aaaaah happy days.
Ryan Babel - November 11th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Ngog has scored a few compared to how many hes actually started.he can turn out to be like torres, fast good feet tallish and can finish and can have a bad first touch like torres, just give him till hes about 24 ish at least.
Ryan Babel - November 11th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
this year ngogs gt 4 goals in 7.cmon
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Can’t we sign that russian heavyweight boxer as a central defender? We would have to stitch two shirts together mind
Ryan Babel - November 11th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
no 4+
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Your singing Ngog praises but your settling for mediocrity. This club was built on greatness. A bastion of invincibity. We need some great players and now, otherwise I’ll be watching us win the title when I’m collecting my pension. Bring in VDV and Villa.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
AWESOME…..!!!!!!!!
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
No offence anyone but I’ve got to agree with the previous comments. I can’t count the amount of corners we are meant to have turned since Roy Evans left. We always seem to be building a team for the future and not playing for today. I think Rafa has been great and long may he continue but someone at the club needs to realise we need to win things. Not tomorrow or next year but now. Hicks and Gillet need to make things happen. We need to be attracting the best players for the team, not buying Vornins. Get your hands in your bank accounts and buy some class. If they don’t, Liverpool FC will end up as top 4 contenders every year and not Champions where they should be. Rant over Apologies but it has to be said.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
yh but hes only a ‘youngster’. but we still need bttr players. but nt selling him jus dossena kyrgiakos voronin (the dead wood )
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
BUY HIM!
Donavan Ried - November 11th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Should have gottenj him as part of the deal for Alonso
Donavan Ried - November 11th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Should have gotten him as part of the deal for Alonso
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
love the title to this article, liverpool “could” sign…yes we could, we could also invade iraq, bring back the dinosaurs and create a pop song that doesn’t suck, but none of these seem all that likely.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
dunno, the anfield rap was alrite. and pass and move its the liverpool groove… cant really call liverpool fc a one hit wonder
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
du u no r midfield is becuming better with lucas and masch now aquilani cumin so we dont really need a midfielder we need a striker
only person is torres we need sumone like cisse or garcia hu isnt that much but scores a lot of goals
rite now we b eing linked to c.col now hes a striker
bit lke owen and heskey except it cud be torres and cole
now that is even better
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
get this guy in. he da man
Stillontheperch - November 11th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
All Pish.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Right here’s a fact. We’ve never won the Premiership. Arsenal, Chelsea and even Blackburn have won the Premiership. Chelsea were a team who, at best, fought for a cup here and there. They’ve moved on through massive investment and are now a top side in England and Europe. Doesn’t that make us all sit up and take notice? We’ve not won the Premiership since it began and we never will with the present crop of players. We’ve sat back thinking things will get better and the odd result gives us faith but on the whole we’re 2nd favourites in matches against the other top three sides. We used to fight for every competition and that includes the League Cup because they were all important. We had 18 league titles more than the Mancs at one stage. We let 18 league titles slip. God, what has gone wrong? I’ll tell you what has gone wrong. We get to buy 2nd rate players who get the odd defeat and have a crisis of confidence. We get managers who aren’t given the funds to buy top players (Torres aside) and we all sit here making out things are fine. When we start saying players like Ngog and Lucas are good players we have a problem. Neither deserve to be in the starting 11 of a team wanting to win the Premiership or the European Cup. Get real for God’s sake before this club ends up like Forest. We need some top class players and to quibble over whether VDV would fit into the team when the likes of Lucas is playing is rediculous. It’s precisely this attitude of accepting 2nd best that is holding us back. VDV is a great player. If he’s on the market, we should be buying. We should be buying a lot of top players because quite frankly we need them!
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
definitely we need a striker in front who can back torres up, is worth to get c. cole at this moment with his consistency shot and bring another skillful and able to dribble the ball up front.. lastly.. another reliable center back is needed to make sure can clear the ball out of the box each time the opponent cross in the ball.. i worry the most for our defence right now.. skrtel agger and carragher are not in the best form and always let opponent take chance to score a silly goal.. as we can see from the previous matches in birmingham and lyon..
Donavan Ried - November 11th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
anonymous – November 11th, 2009 at 7:25 pm …. “bring back the dinosaurs” …. I think that this one is a real possibility, i really do
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
cuz ur nan aint dead nahhhh
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Carlton Cole? Has nobody been reading the article about bringing in class players. (anonymous – November 11th, 2009 at 10:41 pm) The author is right. This is typical of what he’s saying. We should be looking to much better players than Carlton Cole. Can you really see him playing with or instead of Torres. I would sooner play Harry Rednapps missus. We should be setting our sights higher than Carlton bl88dy Cole if we want to win anything.
Retryboy - November 11th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Evening all four players in one day is a bit much with a month and a half still to go want babel to have a shot at right midfield before we sell him on at a loss we paid £11m for him for a reason we are gonna end up letting him go for £6m kuyt is playing badly or being kind not much of a threat. So what harm can it do? If it didn’t work out after 3/4 starts fair enough cut our losses and top priority has to be a right midfielder and playmaker but i am sure it would. Can see us letting him go for 6 and him being worth 5 times that played properly.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Hi Donaven Reid
I read what you said about a replacement for Rafa and I kinda agree with of the 4. Ruud Guillet is a great manager and found and signed Zola for only 4 million!!! I also kinda liked the idea of Zola as manager even if t would be really risky because he is so underrated as a manager and could turn out like an Arsene Wenger type manager (which I wouldn’t mind at all!!!)
Aquilani4goals - November 12th, 2009 at 12:56 am
well what i will like to say right now is the lack of fund…I know rafa is not stupid..but the lack of fund 4 transfer window is making him to look stupid.we all know quality players,but like the saying goes “good soup cost money..or u need money to prepare delicious soup “…stop blaming rafa blame the 2 yanks.we can only excel when we have quality,lack of quality players cost us the epl title last season..so this season we are not even close to the top 4.we all say buy this player or buy that player!now put your money where ur mouth is..
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 1:29 am
Yawn! Excuses! We have a good enough squad to have won every game so far. The players we have could win the epl without a single penny off the owners could and should sell 5 at least first.
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 2:45 am
we dont need a right winger so much, didnt you want the birmingham game johnson is fucking immense on the right side
if a right winger is needed then ryan babel is the man for the job
and to aquilani for goals, rafa selling robbie keane cost us the title last season , nothing else, when we had keane wewere top of the league sitting pretty with good striking options
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 2:48 am
ryan babel for right wing, he always plays well there.
carltoncole is good enough for west ham , enough said
jovetic, kjaer ,defour in all aged 21 ish,
mascherano out, he is totally overated
plus weneed a top class left back, our left back options arent so great
lahm,cisshoko,
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 2:52 am
van der vaart would be a great signing
look at our team
stevie torres
both were captains of their respedtive clubs, both dragged them out of the muck so many time
van der vaart at hamburg, captain saved them on so many occasions
yes to vdv
now someone made a verey interesting point about lucas and why he at first found it difficult at liverpool, he mentioned lucas being overawed and intimidated by gerrard and i actualy would lie to say well done to whoever pointed this out, a real fan thats really lookingat what is going on between players.
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 2:54 am
we need winners more than anything in our team, stevei is one torres is another, van der vaart would be another, actually i think dossena is another but well some liverpool fans just make me sick
they are ike the england fans that used to boo john barnes, and if i were john barnes i d have removed my england shirt that night spat on the three lions in front of them and never played for england again
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 4:31 am
I highly doubt he will go to a small club
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Explain where the £12 million is coming from???
Liverpool struggled to get £2.5 million to sign Krygiakos and you are now claiming they have £12million to spend….
Jasus will you liverpool fans stop dreaming and start facing reality…………………
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 9:41 am
i told you how to make the money , sell kuyt sell mascherano sell riera
for 12 35 and 14 million respectively
thats 61 million
then buy defour 12 jovetic 18 mata 16 and kjaer 8, vdv 10 thats a total of 64 million
i m sure we could offload the greek again to make up the difference
plus we get five class players for our mascherano(overated) kuyt(not good enough) riera (hit and miss) and the greek (nowehere near good enough
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 9:42 am
plus kjaer jovetic defour and mata are all under twenty two, so in four years time aged twenty six weeither keep them or sell them on for a healthy profit
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Kermit you sell the weak players not mascherano(definitely not over rated) kuyt(good worker shouldn’t be automatic choice but quality squad player) riera(shown enough to be given more chances) when we have itandje, degen, dossena, kyrgiakos, voronin who could get us £15m reports are we will get some off the owners too.
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 10:05 am
macscherano has shown himself to be a very limited footballer,kuyt maybe ought to be kept as a squad player but has shown himself to be inept at crossing the ball, riera maybe i agree should be given more time
i think seteven defour is every bit as good as mascherano defesively and has more to offer in terms of going forward
the only way i would employ mascherano in our team is t have him as a single holding midfielder with aquilani/lucas and gerrard playing further forward than him
otherwise he is a waste
kuyt is a good goal poacher , shame he plays on the wing
degen i would sell, dossena i wouldnt because i think left back is our weak spot at the moment
i m looking at sweeping changes to our team
and if reports are to believed mascherano s wife isn t happy in liverpooland he wants to leave( totally understandable), so i think we ought to sell him and sign defour and make twenty million worth of profit and sign soeone like jovetic with this profit, i mean he destroyed us in fiorentian, and anyone who can destroy us is a good option
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 10:09 am
but i would trade riera in for juan mata who is younger and a better football, then i m trading in kuyt for jovetic, and mascherano for defour, kyrgiakos for kjaer and i still have money to add van der vaart, so basicaly i make improvements everywhere and get two quality midfielder for one
but you might have a point in that we ought to sell off our shite players
but i dont believe dossena is shite i d rather sell aurelio, degen , kyrgiakos, voronin,spearing,
erer
Hoogleboogybugleboy - November 12th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Some of you guys make it sound like your going shopping in the supermarket. Buying players is not as simple as you all seem to think. I do however think that R VDV would be a great addition to the squad and at the reported 13 million is a bargain.
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I think we have too many players without defined positions too rafa seems to want every player to play 4 different positions seamlessly just doesn’t work they play well left wing then next week on the right or behind the striker. The players we have now don’t know whether they are coming or going.
Donavan Ried - November 12th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
anonymous – November 11th, 2009 at 10:41 pm …… do you know what spoiled this post? …….
The fact that i did not know who was saying it …….
Great post
Hoogleboogybugleboy - November 12th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
What players do we have without defined positions Anon1:00? As far as I see it only Kuyt has changed position in the team. Everyone else plays in their natural position.
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
kermit your wrong about mascherano, and his job is not to cross or score goals. he is there as a destroyer… plain and simple he is only there to break up oppostion play and pass the ball to someone else… and he is the best at that. however i do agree that he should be sold. the reason i beiieve he has his head turned by barca, and he wants to leave for that alone we should sell and try and get min 30 mill. Lucus is worth keeping as he is getting better and i see no point in playing two def midfielders.
kuyt is worth keeping unless we get a stupid offer. degen is a enigma. i was amazed how attacking he is, so i would keep.
Hoogleboogybugleboy - November 12th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Agree with Digger about Mashcherano. He isn’t in the team as a playmaker, his job is simply to break up play and pass to a team mate which he does very well. He also has a great engine and plays with energy atnd at a high tempo. It seems however that Barça don’t have the funds to buy him now. Maybe he should just knuckle down and enjoy what he has. I’m happy if he stays, I also wouldn’t be that bothered if he was sold.
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
hoogleboogybugleboy i don’t really understand the point of having 2 def midfielders in a team, lucus and masch.. gerrard can also play that role… i just think that if we get the 30+ for him then sell. lucus is getting better ang like i said gerrard can play in the role if need be.. but i don’t always think we need that def mid. i mean look we have a back 4, two def mid, one of the best def right wing in kuyt, (this should now be called the “kuyt” position, as i believe he is the only def winger in the world), so when we play we have 7 defenders….
Hoogleboogybugleboy - November 12th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Couldn’t agree more with you Digger. Lucas is improving every game and I think that his game will eventually be better than Mashcheranos because he is a better footballer. I also agree on the Kuyt position and although you make a joke of it (I think) Kuyt does add to the team. A winger does not only have to get to the byline and get crosses in, football is all about team balance and with Johnson’s attacking game, Kuyt’s game is perfect. It would be good to have another option there too though.
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
You people have finally lost it!! Lucas will never be remotely near mascherano’s level or alonso’s level. We bought him for £6m two years ago he is now worth… Err £6m he has improved massively but he had to it wasn’t possible to stay that inept! you are comparing him to the best defensive midfielder in the world. To even suggest playing gerrard defensively and to think that having 7 defensive players in a team and the worlds only defensive right winger is a good thing is just ridiculous!
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
seriously Hoogleboogybugleboy i am a big fan of kuyt, (the guy WOULD play anywhere for liverpool), and now your right with the added bonus of johnson pushing up there is a nice little balance. i am just saying the team is too defensive for me and i sometimes feel that we don’t want to lose games instaed of thinking we got to go out and win them. the birmingham game for me was a winnable game. i was expecting 6 past them.
For me though mate i would like to see johnson move into the right wing role, he has all the qualities of a great winger, speed, skill, ability to pass others, a really good cross, and able to score goals… i just think its a waste sticking him in rb i say unleash him, let him off his defensive duties and say just do your think. the way he played against birmingham was beautiful….
stick darby at rb, johnson at right wing.
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
look retryboy, i want to be more attack minded but i was pointing out we’re not.
Yes Gerrard CAN play almost anywhere thats why he is so great, he can shoot, tackle, pass better than most, why not use him in the middle of the park?, he would have more time to play those balls were needed, remember gerrard is a better passer of the ball than alonso was.
i just think now we have aquilani, who can play just behing the striker why not push gerrard back.??? its another option
now onto lucus, are you one of these fans that can’t see the improvements that this kid is going thru, yes he gives away a lot of free kicks in stupid areas but he’s young and there is a clear improvement in each game, which is more than can be said for babel. Lucus will be a great player for us.
Yes masch is a great def mid, the best in the world, but if we get 30mill for him take it, we need some fire power up front.
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Now that could be a good call. We have 3 real class right backs johnson, darby and kelly. Suggested johnson on the right wing after his goals at the start though and everyone said portsmouth had tried it and he was terrible there can’t see why though he is fast, can beat people, score goals and his crossing would improve quickly because he would be doing it more.
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
i prefer silva or villa, this guy has lost his confidence
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Digger… Can see his improvement just when people start saying he is better than mascherano its ridiculous. Mascherano stops anyone getting through to the back four thats his job and in my opinion the only one we need in the team doing that role. Getting gerrard back into centre midfield would also be right but not playing him defensively takes everything away from his game. Lucas is improving into a good squad player not a match winner and not a first team regular in my eyes.
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
mascherano is defensive, this guy is for attacking but still i prefer silva or villa
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
great comments retryboy, can’t say i agree with the lucus one but i respect your opinions…. will have to agree to disagree.
Retryboy i would love to keep masch but to have 30mill to spend on a striker would be great.. look we had 7 defenders in the birmingham game.. do we need two def mid, lucus can do a job…simple.
yes masch is the best def mid in the business but so what?, lucus can do the job, yes he won’t be the best if the defense do there job we’re sorted
look retryboy i love torres but i want him to getting pushed by another world class striker..
baggins09 - November 12th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
i agree with digger about torres sometimes he doesn’t look intrested he needs pushing, but if we’re gonna lose masch we should try and get toure plus 20m in on it, why leave our selves short? and 20m is plenty for a striker
i think we should try our luck and ask for toure, henry and 5-10m that would be better then with the extra 5-10 plus our owners measly alledged 12m we’d have 17-22m if we’re lucky thats enough for a world class winger and we’ve only sold one player, get rid of a bit of deadwood and we could afford van der vart too
Hoogleboogybugleboy - November 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I stand by my comment about Lucas becoming a better option than Mashcherano. Mashcherano, although class at breaking up play and hassling etc does not have much else to his game. Lucas on the other hand is a better box to box midfielder and once he gets his tackling sorted out, will be a better player in my opinion.
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
i’m sorry maybe i’m not getting this but is it really important to have a couple of defensive midfielders?, why include yaya if we sell masch?, and i would not want henry, i think spending money on someone younger and hungry would be more beneficial.
how about 30million plus marquez baggins09??, contract runs out end of 2010 not signed a new one, they would sell for a few mill, plus you have a experienced back up defender who can also play as a def mid. I’d take that….
buy adriano, baptista, drenthe, vdv, marquez….. beautiful
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
it is so unfortunate for yossi and riera to get injured
is this a blessing in disguise though, babel will play more often
if we under performs hopefully we get mata or silva
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
digger i d like my midfield destroyer still to be able to pass the ball, how many times last year did masch go on stroming runs down blind alleys
take senna at villarela he destroys quite well but he cant half play also
and like i said masch s destructive abilities would be useful only in a team that employs one holding midfielder and two creative ones in its system
and somehow i think aquilani is gonna be used as a deep lying playmaker ie alonsos holding role instead of in an advanced position alongside stevie g in behind torres where he could do some real damage
kermit - November 12th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
lucas is going to be one of the premier leagues best midfielders in the next few years
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Sorry anon at 1.00 was me donovan thing had logged me out we have so many transfer stories on the go its a bit hard keeping up and Hoogleboy was talking about having aurelio LM,LB,CM dossena LB,LM babel LM,RM,CF benayoun LM,RM,ACM and kuyt RM,CF now you mention him too but the others are constantly moved.
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Everyones going well over the top about lucas though he hasn’t even made a goal that i can remember let alone score one. Maybe that is because he has been played more defensively as someone kept suggesting and against brum he was definitely the middle of the 3 midfield positions but you can’t do that role without someone sitting in front of the back four. Would be good if he could be another in that role because when everyone was fit would have mascherano as the DCM with spearing as back up aquilani as the linking man with lucas as back up and gerrard at the front of the 3 CM’s with benayoun also able to do the role.
baggins09 - November 12th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
digger-adriano and baptista nice!
i’d only play 1 dm against most teams but big games like against scum, chelski and arsenal i’d play 2 but you need 2 incase one gets injured.
kermit- it’s a joke if he tries molding one of the most promising attacking players we have in to the lazy playmaker role, he needs to learn to play people to there strengths and aquilani’s is going forward not sitting back playing long balls he should buy beckham if wants another slow, skill-less longball merchant or move on and stop trying to put square pegs in round holes change the formation and try and win games not just set up not to lose!
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
not good..
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
i prefer villa,we need him
Torres-villa-Gerrard…. wow
...samlfc.... - November 12th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
We will not be getting Aquero or Villa as we can’t afford them!!! i would love to have them on our team but we need to face the facts
this Jan we will spend from £5 mill to £15mill Max we always do so don’t get your hopes up as you will be upset!
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
no 1 Lucas as been better that Maschereno for most of this season
2 Maschereno is def going he wants to move so will eventually and won’t sign new contract so better to sell in January for as much as we can before his contract length decreases his value
Ngog as scored 4 goals this season whilst playing in 7 games mostly from the bench and when starting usually in a much weakened team now i’m not a rocket scientist but that is not a bad ratio of goals per game in fact in comparrison to time on the pitch and goals scored only Torres as a batter ratio so why sell
Get rid of Degen, Dossena and Voronin as well as Maschereno and buy two or three better players with the money ie VDV Huntelar Mata
Retryboy - November 13th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Lucas has been playing alongside mascherano who has taken care of anything coming through the midfield letting the likes of lucas play. Thought people understood the makelele role by now and the importance of it 5 good performances from lucas doesn’t mean you can sell one of the best players in the world and not miss him! Look what happened with alonso
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Get him and Huntelaar on loan and buy in summer.
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
ladies ang gents……. it is blindingly obvious that there are too many players at the club who arnt worthy of being in any title contending team. you look around the squad and yes there is some star quality there but too many turkeys. voronin, dosenna, kjiriakos all need to go asap. the issue with liverpool is strength in depth. bringing in the likes of vandervaart is just what we need. its no good sayin where would he play, whos place will he take, as these questions are hypothetical. a season can be up to 50 games, injuries, suspensions and bad form means that u need quality back up in every position. as long as u have got the right manager to manage personalities u will be successfull. i would like to see vandervaart come in as well as hunterlaar or carlton cole. i would like to see voronin, dosenna and kjiriakos leave although i woulod be tempted to hang on to kjiriakos until the summer so we dont leave ourselves short in that area. i would be tempted to hang on to lucas as we are beginning to see maybe why raffa has always sang his praise, however if it means funding a move for vandervaart i would sell him in a heart beat. for those sayin dirk kuyt needs to go, you need to remember that this is a player who will run through a brick wall for the cause, not only that but he is a regular starter in a holland team that have vampersie, hunterlaar and vannistleroy at thier disposal. and also this is a player who scored the same amount of goals as wayne rooney (more than tevez, berbatov and other top top strikers in the premier league season 08/09) from a wide position.
anonymous - November 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Get him hes world class he desreves to come liverpool and we need him
anonymous - November 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 am
sell voronin & dossena…….those funds would help bring the dutchman playmaker in the club.
anonymous - November 28th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
out <<>> vdv12 kjaer8 jovetic10 huntlaer12-15 and maybee defour
riena
insua agger skrtel jonhson
lucas
gerard aquillani
babel jovetic
torres
subs
aurelio
kjaer
defour
huntlaer
kuyt
riera
anonymous - November 28th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
also ijantee out for 0 just to get him off payroll n carra is ageing a bit
anonymous - November 29th, 2009 at 11:51 am
as a liverpool fnai have been so pissed of with the club recently if im honest we need a striker with torres still not fully fit ngog is so shit ive watched him he can only score in front of goal on his own he has no skill against debrecen he got an easy tap in carragher could have scored that. we need another centre back becuz skrtel wastes the ball and agger is always out injured plus carra has been off form recently. my opinion we need a striker theres a rumour about ruud van nisterooy not sure just someone who can score. WE NEED A NEW MANAGER FUCK OFF RAFA YOUR SHIT .