Liverpool to Make Shock £12m January Raid for Cole: Intelligent Bit of Business
by YNWA on November 11th, 2009 53 commentsCarlton’s West Ham teammates will do anything to stop him leaving.
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At the eleventh hour today the Mill will pause to remember those heroic men and women who died to preserve our freedom to rumour for a living. Just think, we wouldn’t be able to report that Rafael Benítez has managed to extract a commitment from the American carpetbaggers to fund the January purchase of Carlton Cole. Being English, Cole is, of course, biologically incapable of falling opportunistically in the box when an opponent executes a good, honest, totally inaccurate lunge that demands evasive action, but Benítez still reckons he’d more valuable than David Ngog. (Guardian)
Imagine my surprise when I saw news of this reported interest in West Ham striker Carlton Cole, I can only assume other fellow Liverpool fans were as shocked by this speculation and am left wondering if there is a modicum of truth to it all.
The former Chelsea man has started to shine after his stuttering career finally took off when he swapped west for east London. The towering England international used to be derided as a hustle and bustle merchant and was rather unfairly compared to Emile Heskey on an off day. Now his whole hearted displays have become to bear fruit and Carlton has shown that he is no clodhopper and is able to play with the ball on the deck and can indeed score some terrific goals. He has managed 37 Premier League games he has managed 16 goals, not bad considering he doesn’t get much service and tends to have to assist his own strikes. He also knows how to net against the big boys, just this season he has netted against Tottenham, Arsenal and of course against us back in September.
Goalscoring was clearly the one facet of his game that he needed to hone and now he is finding the back of the net with gleeful regularity, so much so that one wonders if West Ham can really afford to allow him to leave, even if they do desperately need the cash, as to do so would essentially mean that Gianfranco Zola will have no one left to score goals.
Cole showed how well he can pair up with a speedy nippy partner when he was partnered with Craig Bellamy to great effect. The 25 year old would be a good addition to the Anfield squad, if not a spectacular one an affordable one.
YNWA
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anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Morning YNWA,
Yes I think that Carlton Cole would be a decent signing but we know that Rafa isn’t that keen on playing two up front, so how would this work? Would the West Ham man be happy to be on the bench? Would that not affect his England hopes? I think we should adopt a 4-4-2 system using some effective wingers and with two up top.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 10:31 am
yh i doubt hell turn to 2 upfront but maybe hes decidied to change things.
or maybe hell give him false promises. more likely to get pandev.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 10:32 am
But thats what we need a tall powerfull striker to give teams trouble and give torres more space, and he can also play upfront by himself.
Retryboy - November 11th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Bring nemeth back save £12m cole could never be a partner for torres would be good when he was injured i honestly believe that nemeth given the chance would be as big as owen, fowler and torres.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 10:43 am
If you allow advertisements that block my reading of your aticles, I will stop reading any of your articles.
Gordon Meggs
jimmyk - November 11th, 2009 at 10:44 am
deffo bring back nemeth. what about dalle valle????
kermit - November 11th, 2009 at 10:46 am
fuck sake carlton cole is never gonna win you the league, another semi okay signing,bollocks he is good enough for west ham thats about it.i doubt his abilty to play alongside torres, just not for me,
hard to find an ideal strikepartner for torres , does anyone actually know how nemeth is doing in greece
ideally id wnat a quick mobile intellignet player aongside him, kinda like stevie g but theres only one of him
was impressed by jovetic
my ideal partner for torres is unfortunately wayne rooney
znydz - November 11th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Bringing cole to anfield would be a good choice since he can pair up with torres.
Maybe in the future rafa can test new formation, with 2 strikers upfront..
Retryboy - November 11th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Dalle valle is one for the future he is a few years younger not ready yet haven’t heard anything about him this season actually amazing talent though. Pacheco is ready to start being used and ecclestone is scoring regularly at the moment all gonna be stars. Nemeth would have straight in the first team alongside torres now would be the perfect partner.
jimmyk - November 11th, 2009 at 11:03 am
why havnt we heard from dalle valle though? dont think he’s injured and im pretty sure he’s not on loan. i know fulham where looking at him for a loan…he hasnt played for the reserves in ages either….brouwer = out….valle = in.
anyone know whats happened to him?
Retryboy - November 11th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Morning kermit, Nemeth scored 2 in 6 some quality assists got man of the match. Most valuable player in greek league before hitting 3 in 6 at the under 20 world cup for hungary being the star along with Koman who we are chasing helping them to 3rd place. Haven’t heard what he’s done in november yet
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I echo Retryboy nemeth back would be the best move if we go for a forward (if we can affored players in jan) cole is english so would be helpfull how about Vorinin and 9 mil then again it could be vorinin and 15 mil they way he has played for us
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Kop King
I think it is about time we did start playing two up front and in my opinion cole would be a superb addition and could easily form a great partnership with torres as can the hugely talented nemeth.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
shud defo bring in cole, young and english. with the new rules coming in need more quality english players and i think he is defo a diamond in the rough jus needs a good team to play with and could be very good player.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
why spean 12 mill on cole, who is a average player, when we could have brought bent??? this is the problem we don’t need stop gaps. we need one quality forward to eith partner torres or go it alone, if we can muster 25 mill we could try for dafoe, lavezzi,
Good shout on nemeth have heard from my cousins that he is playing a blinder in Athens, they say he is more like a fowler than a owen, because really all owen had was the speed.
I thought pacheco should be given a chance.
i would even buy pongolle back off of madrid.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
hi just want to see if anyone agrees with me here, as i have been getting pelters from my mates, but i think we should pick up Adriano.
Here is my case:
-he can play as alone striker and as partner to torres, is strong enough to hold up play
-He’s only 27
-Senior career*
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
2000–2001 Flamengo 19 (7)
2001–2009 Internazionale 123 (48)
2002 ? Fiorentina (loan) 15 (6)
2002–2004 ? Parma (co-ownership) 36 (22)
2008 ? São Paulo (loan) 0 (0)
2009– Flamengo 27 (18)
National team‡
2000– Brazil 47 (27)
this shows that every where he has gone he has scored goals even when he hasn’t always had his mind on the game.
-with the world cup round the corner what better way to show case your talents than the prem league
-being 6″3 he is more than physically capable of playing in our league
-he won’t cost that much
so what you guys say??
i also think we should put in bids for van der vaart, drenthe, (madrid), baptista(roma).
i think we could pick up 4 class players he for approx 35mill. i would try drenthe at LB as i thiknk he could add real fire power, with johnson down the right.
WHAT YOU GUYS THINK????
Retryboy - November 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
We should have been using pacheco in the carling cup against leeds and arsenal in the hole behind ngog he oozes creativity and voronin oozes liability!!
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Bring Alan Dzaguev…perfect choice i think…
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
he cud be another glen johnson for us in terms of strike was crap at chelsea and gud at west ham a bit like glen johnson
Retryboy - November 11th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Rumour mill is definitely in full flow check out community.footballpools.com/blog/2009/11/10/hernanes-dazzling-brazilian-in-babel-dossena-out-at-liverpool
Donavan Ried - November 11th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Afternoon Kermit, Retryboy, Kop King, and a specail welcome to jimmyk, Gordon Meggs and znydz
Hear that Rafa intends to make a bid for Mickey Mouse ……
Please lets us know when he makes a real bid for someone……
Hoogleboogybugleboy - November 11th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
It’s November. Liverpool FC don’t let their transfer targets be known even in the transfer window so this is just speculation of the lowest order.
Liverpool FC Danny - November 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
We don’t need another average striker, we need another world class player like maybe Luis Suarez or Aguero.
Hoogleboogybugleboy - November 11th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I’d have to agree with Danny above. Cole is in my opinion an average footballer who is having a good run at the moment that is all. He is playing every game an is thriving in a below average team. He is definately not what Liverpool need.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
hed be a good signing.
Imo he could partner torres because coles hold up play is very,very good.
and to the people sayng “just bring back nemeth”….thats not good enough.
As the clubs above us in the league have shown..you need more than 1/2 superstar strikers in order to get anywhere…
Warren Bloggs - November 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Evening all,
I have said for a long time that Carlton Cole would be superb for Liverpool fc. He can play up-front alone or pair-up with the likes of Torres, Nemeth and Ngog. We need more english talent coming through, and yes he is a chelsea reject but then again wasn’t Glen Johnson? On his day Cole is as effective as the likes of Carew, Adebayor and Drogba, capable of hassling entire defences and bringing others into play. He may be interested in a move up the league:
My in’s and Out’s (Pending on further transfer tales, im trying to stay realistic)
Out:
Voronin and Babel to Hamburg in exchange for cash and Eljero Elia.
Dossena to Napoli/Genoa/Milan/Juventus
Itandje (as soon as poss.)
IN:
Eljero Elia at part exchange
Vladimir Koman for around £4m
Carlton Cole for around £12m
*i think we will lose out on Kjaer to United scum unfortuanetly
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
just get rid of voronin babel degen skrtel the greek reira
then sign carlton cole upson/cahill (give kelly or ayala the 4th spot) mata huddlestone and we need some one to replace ageing kuyt
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
gerrard is aging and starting to show it
aquilani as been brought in to be replace him as he is a gerrard type of player
rafa is trying to play more of a 4-4-2 formation
he should sell voronin and sign carlton cole and bring back nemeth and our striking force would be torres cole ngog nemeth and we would still have other youth players trying to get a spot in the first team
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
yes bring in Cole if we want to remain a mid table side
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
i dont get some people on here they dont want us to sign a player who as prem experience is setting up alot of his own goals and as scored alot this season but then then you hear people say oh lets sign huntelaar who as no prem experience only signed for milan this season and only started 7 games and not even scored once. cole would be a better option
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
what the hell is the point in bring in average players to play in top clubs. hes 2 old to improve and learn alot and hes not good enough to play alongside, challenge or fill in for torres. it would just be 12mil for a reserve player. in my opinion that 12 mil would be better spent on joe cole.
Digger - November 11th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Hi have just come across this site and justed wanted to ask how you can put a picture up?
Really interesting article, i do think that the amount of 12million is a slight high for a player, in my opinion, is a good player in a average side.
if a player is needed similar than why not go for someone cheaper like heskey…
Now for me i think Cole/ heskey would just be a stop gap, (look at how Keane, crouch, bellamy did), we need to muster as much money together and buy some one of true class, the only english player that could possibly work is Dafoe…thats if spurs were to let him go.
i do think huntelar could work. i am not sure any one has mentyioned him but he seems to be having a awful time in milan.
I do think Rafa needs to start clearing out the waste of spacers, (itanje, dossena, aurelio, el zhar, plessis, riera, voronin, Kyrgiakos), i am a big fan of babel and have been very upset by the way he has been playing as a player i think he can go missing and sometimes trys to do too much. he has great potential, (but so has quaresma), to be a great its just fustrating we don’t see the good sides as often as the worst. if we can get a good price, (8-10), then i would consider selling.
I never thought i would say this but lucus has been one of my favourite players this season, and like a fine wine gets better, i would never put him as the best defensive midfielder at liverpool over masch but it just seems masch has had his head turned by barca and his heart isn’t in it..
for that reason i would sell, altogether all the players for sale would rack up approx 60 mill, (the minimum). i would stick in kuyt but he always seems happy to be a squad player and feel that he does often nab important goals.
together with the money that the owners may give us say 10mill for arguments sake, thats 70mill toi spend in jan easy…
Make the youth be in the first team as back up, that will give them an opportunity to gain experience, can Eccleston, pacheco be any worse than voronin?? or Ayala/ darby any worse than Kyrgiakos?)
All i am saying is we need quality at anfield not quantity
just a foot note here but i also think that Rafa should play glen johnson at right wing, he has all the qualities to be a great winger, (speed, skill and a great cross on him).it just seems a waste when we have kuyt in that position. it seems that degen can do a job there…
Digger - November 11th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
i mean degen can do a job at RB while johnson plays at RW
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
bringing back nemeth for now is pontless, he is rated as a better prospect than ngog, but is farther behind, not up to it yet. who suggested playing dalle valle?! yeah he is shit hot in resies, but no way ready for the step up yet. playing either just throws unnecesary pressure on talented youngsters that they dont need yet.
Carlton would be a good signing, big powerful with good feet, yeah ok its not the Davey Villa signing we dream of, but for twelve he is a great option. dont forget he is fighting to get in world cup squad, this season, espescially second half of season he will be doing everything possible to get in. HIs nationality would be an asset for champs league aswell.
Agree with the comment from digger, johnson should be given a few games at right wing to see what he can do. i reckon he’d be great especially wit martin kelly at right back when fit. kelly looked really solid defensivley and decent going forward, them to switching out all match would certainly help with breaking down some of the lesser prem teams.
last point, lay of ngog kids, yeah he dived, but…if he hadn’t he woulda been caught by that big grocks awful attempt at a tackle, and to be fair it was no where near as bad as some of the dives we’ve seen in the last few years, he’s just the most recent in a huge list of players dive.
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Simply not good enough….mayb fr west ham but i cant see him playing champions league football well.
Jan Ins: Suarez(6m+ Babel), Van de Vaart(12m).
Jan Sell: Vorronin(4.5m), Dossena(7m), Babel(Swap)
Then….(If we get bought by a reasonable owner)
Summer In: Villa( 35m), Mata(15m), Djaer( 9m), Defour(16m)
Summer out: Reira-Villareal(14m), Mascherano(35m), Degen(6.5m)
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
i know that cole might not score that many goals but he can provide them for torres. and that is what we need to think about
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
degen for 6.5 mill? u knob at 8.42 . why the fuck did u put that down
...samlfc.... - November 11th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
anonymous – November 11th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Spot on!!
tahst why i want Cole as he can score a few but can assist loads and of course he’s english bigger bonus. peopl might not see it yet but i think once he goes to a bigger club (with all respect to West ham fans the only teams i hate are Evertone and Man utd fans) i think he would be great
...samlfc.... - November 11th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
*Thats
Digger - November 11th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
keane and bellamy also have better attributes but couldn’t do it anfield what makes you think that a player like cole can?, he’s a ok sriker and will only play back up to torres, (unless rafa adopts two upfront), why not buy heskey? he’ll only cost a couple of million, or benni mccarthy? god even spend the 12mill on trying to get henry, just don’t waste it on a average player…
anonymous - November 11th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
You are all dreaming there will be no signings in january we have no money. Dossena will go to pay for pepe new contract.
We are know we need world class signings cole was excellent against us away this year, Jamie and co really struggled with him.
A lot depends on us qualifying for the champions league group and if we do capture cole it will because he is english.
Someone mentioned devalle now he is one for the future
Digger - November 11th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
actually re reading some of the comments and it was a anonymous person who came up with it but Adriano would be a perfect choice….
the stats on him look good, ok he hasn’t got prem experience but i thinkits worth the punt…. if suggestions are true that he’s got his desire back, this guy was fantastic….
so i say spend the 12mill and get adriano
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 1:33 am
Adriano would cost a fortune.
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 3:01 am
lucus is still highly regarding in brasil use as bargaining chip. i wouldn’t like to see him go but for adriano it would be worth it…
plus when gerrard, aqualani, masch fit can’t really see him playing much…
plus retryboy whey you think he’ll cost alot?? he’s damaged goods, any one bidding on him is taking a risk….
anonymous - November 12th, 2009 at 4:13 am
this is bullshit about rafa not wanting to play two up front the reason why he plays torres up front on his own is because he is the best striker in the world and to put a ok player up there with him would be suicide because it would ruin his game and i speak for everyone when i say we need torres at his best, and buying a quality player at holding the ball up will give torres the help he so dearly needs so he could score even more and cole fits the script perfectly big tall broad player who will give torres the oppourtunity to score more and have another player scoring over 10-15 a season and if we do buy cole with probibaly a good centre back (rafael marques who is not evn on the bench for barcalona any more and his is an international) will win us the league!
rafa to stay it is not his fault we are plagued with injuries!
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
to anonymous – November 12th, 2009 at 4:13 agree to what your saying, but think the “quality player” you talk of is not Cole. i still like Adriano, even baptista, (wouldn’t cost that much and we all saw what he did to liverpool a few seasons ago when playing for arsenal), also disagree some what to you comment below
“rafa to stay it is not his fault we are plagued with injuries!”
your right its not rafa’s fault and i don’t want to see him go as i feel since he’s been at liverpool, the results have been positive.
But i do feel we should be beating teams like Birmingham, look we played literally 6 defenders in that game, (back 4 and 2 DEF MID), maybe he should have put out a really attacking side and see what happened, also i know torres is injured but did he need to take him off with only three minutes remaining against Lyon?, the thing with torres is that people fear, him (none more so then vidic), so sometimes its best to leave him on.
I’m not slagging Rafa off as i know he will win us the league but every team has injuries, its the back up players that have to step up and make a difference, The players Rafa has brought in the 3-10 million signing are bad…Voronin HAS to be sold, he is the worst No 10 we have ever had.(i know we got him free but even that looks a bad bit of business).
i really wished hyphia stayed as we really needed his back up this season, possibly even making a better attempt at getting distin?
i know we have no money so the likes of Aguero, Ribery and Villa, (who i wouldn’t buy even if i had the money), are not going to come…. but people like Adriano, Baptista, Van der Vaart, Drenthe these are quality players which i would love to see playing with the likes of Torres, Gerrard, Aqualani, Johnson… plus they will not be as expensive as people think…
Adriano – fallen hero plying his trade in brazillian league looking to show that he still has it to be picked for barzil in world cup
Baptista – another trying to get back into the brazil set up, he is a beast of a player and i think wenger gave up on him to easy. could still be perfect to play just behind torres.
Van Der Vaart – already shown he is class surplus to req in madrid
Drenthe – with marcelo thought he was going to leave, however has played alot of games this season, but gets booed by his own fans.. lot of potential here, he’s so young. could play left back, left winger.
would also love to see gareth bale, but don’t think that will happen.
so for me my outs would be:
- mascherano, (would like him to stay but think that his head had been turned) -30mill
- voronin 2mill
- dossena, (would like him to stay but if get good price and get drenthe) 6mill
- plessis 1mill
- el zhar 1mill
- kuyt, (only to raise cash, other wise this guy is amazing) 8mil
- babel 5mill
- greek guy 1mill
- itanje just let him go
- riera 10 mill
total 38mill.
ins
baptista – 8mill
vdv – 13mill
drenthe – 7mill
adriano – 10mill
total 38mill
plus throw in what he’ll get from owners 10 million for contract negotiation, and maybe a bid for krajer.
how would they all play together?
———————————-reina
degen/darby— skrtel/carra—agger/krajer—aurelio/insua
johnson/vdv—-aqua/gerrard—-lucus/baptista—drenthe/benny
————torres/Adriano/ngog/pacheco/nemeth
i have made the team as fluid as possible as vdv/ aqua and baptista can play just behind adriano and torres. gerrard can play defensive mid, along with lucus.
i don’t know about you but i think this team will bring about a fear, but this is just my wish.. I’m sure rafa will be astute in the jan transfer window
Digger - November 12th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
sorry maths gone mad here
mascherano, (would like him to stay but think that his head had been turned) -30mill
- voronin 2mill
- dossena, (would like him to stay but if get good price and get drenthe) 6mill
- plessis 1mill
- el zhar 1mill
- kuyt, (only to raise cash, other wise this guy is amazing) 8mil
- babel 5mill
- greek guy 1mill
- itanje just let him go
- riera 10 mill
total 64million
Donavan Ried - November 12th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
anonymous – November 12th, 2009 at 4:13 am …… “this is bullshit about rafa not wanting to play two up front the reason why he plays torres up front on his own is because he is the best striker in the world and to put a ok player up there with him would be suicide because it would ruin his game” ……….
What are you talking about???? ………If Torres is one of the best strikers in the world, having another player; play upfront with him would take nothing away from his game, or make him any lesser a world class striker, In fact would help his game….. because instead of have a CB on Torres and one sitting off him the other striker would then have to be marked by the CB that would sit off of Torres, thus giving him more space and one less player to mark him
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Torres is left isolated so often we can’t expect him to have one half chance and bury it in 90 minutes of football even if so often he does. Reason rafa likes gerrard behind torres so much is because that gives him 3 tackling central midfielders. With mascherano and lucas not creating anything gerrard is forced to drop back further and further and we end up with rafas 4-5-0-0-1 formation. Torres has less support than pammy did in baywatch!
Retryboy - November 12th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Oh back to the story apparently west ham want £20m for cole ha ha! Mind you normally when managers say stupid inflated figures like that its because they are trying to scare off the chasing club and as we all know if a player really wants to go not a lot a club can do about it. Anon at 7.40 how the hell is nemeth behind ngog? They are both banging in goals for fun as nemeth has always done but nemeth’s all around, link up play is a different level mind you it is compared to most players!
Hoogleboogybugleboy - November 12th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
West Ham have said that they would want 20 million for Cole. Is he worth that? I don’t think so.
...samlfc.... - November 12th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
If Cole is worth £20 million then i’ll say no lol hell is he worth that much
Retryboy - November 15th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Apparently the mancs want him now we can’t outbid them if they are serious