Liverpool To Sell Players To Fund Bid for £18m “New Kaka” Hernanes
by YNWA on November 13th, 2009 437 words | 52 commentsRafa needs to find funds for Brazilian talent.
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There has been increased speculation for the highly rated Brazilian Hernanes, with a move to Premier League giants Liverpool.
It had been claimed by the Brazilian press that, Rafa Benitez is chasing the midfield playmaker, who is being dubbed as the ‘new kaka’. ‘
The Reds boss will step up his chase for the talented South American, by selling some of players in the January transfer window.
The 24-year-old’s full name is Anderson Hernanes de Cavalho Andrade Lime, who is currently playing for Brazilian league leaders Sao Paulo.
Hernanes has been linked to a host of European clubs, such as AC Milan and Juventus but the Italian clubs have struggled to raise the fee Sao Paulo are demanding. (Give Me Football – Official PFA Website)
As reported on this site a few days ago it appears that speculation is increasing about a potential move from Liverpool for Hernanes, who has been repeatedly, and perhaps unwisely, dubbed the “New Kaka”. Also it appears that the valuation placed on the Sao Paulo man keeps increasing, which is worrying as we don’t have a great deal of money in the first place.
So this source suggests that Rafa will urgently look to offload some deadwood, not a bad thing, in order to finance any such deal for the £18m rated midfielder who was voted by The Times as the best up and coming talent back in January and has reportedly only gotten better since!
So lets look at this carefully. In order to make the kind of money needed to buy the 24 year old talented central midfielder we would have to get rid of the likes of Andrea Dossena (already on his way to the exit), Andriy Voronin (if anyone actually wants him) and perhaps one or two others. Our squad isn’t the biggest as it is so I am not sure of the wisdom in such a deal unless of course Messrs Hicks and Gillett just give the money to our gaffer without him needing to scramble around the back of the sofa for the cash!
I think another creative midfielder would be a wise addition but it is always a danger to bring in a player from South America directly to a big club and such moves work far better if the player has had a season bedding in say in France or Holland. Personally I would have thought a move for a more established player like Rafael Van der Vaart, available for a similar fee, would make more sense.
YNWA
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anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Saw this guy play in the last Olympics and he was pretty damn good. If we need to sell to buy then I think its time for us to cash in on Babel or Riera
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
20m is not suitable. 12m is good for every player (VDV, C. Cole, Lennon )
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
he i really good but 18 mill for a CAM when aquilani is comming back and we need a ST and a Winger.
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Dont buy him at all.Rafa should be sacked and replaced with Roy Hodgson.he’s english and can work miracles with average players what about Torres,Gerrard,Aquilani,Masch to name but few.do it now pliz for God’s sake.if it happens we might finish 4th and 2010/2011 the title.
Retryboy - November 13th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Getting bored of this transfer stuff now
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
fk off rafa weve all had enuf wots wrong with co managers say tosh an keegan real reds we wud get goot football every week and 2 guys who really care enuf of the euro coaches we did not need them during the golden years and we dont need them now
...samlfc.... - November 13th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
I’m going to bet alot of backlash from what i’m going to say but i think Kaka is overrated as he isn’t really that special……….don’t get me wrong he is a great player but he isn’t fantastic though and in my opinion i think he isn’t as fantastic people make out..
and i’m kinda agreeing with Retryboy as its getting abit repetative with these transfers although the 3 players in and out one is a good one though!
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
yes you were right to expect a backlash for such a fucktarted statement
messi and ronaldo may be able to produce individual moments of skill and brilliance, xavi and iniesta may be able to control the pace of a game and pick passes at will, but none of those compare to the natural ability of Kaka
behind zidane, he is the best natural footballer of my generation. the guy is a pleasure to watch the way he glides with the ball, nothing is fluke or luck with him, he just controls the ball with his feet, is unbelievably intelligent and is a natural athlete
i understand football is a game of opinions, but being anyone unable to appreciate the natural brilliance of kaka should not be allowed to have on
Retryboy - November 13th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Best player of his generation? I think you are forgetting igor biscan, salif diao, djimi traore and voronin! Mmm hmmm! Yes you stand corrected lol
Retryboy - November 13th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Sam-yeah the 3 in 3 out one was good. Even though most anons seem to have £200m worth of player coming in or plan on selling all our best players! There is probably 20 realistic out of 120 comments. Some of them are just good for a laugh.
Donavan Ried - November 13th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
How many midfielders can one team buy ????………
...samlfc.... - November 13th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
anonymous – November 13th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Best player of his generation LOL yeah pigs can fly in Derbyshire aswell!
Kaka is a great player and yes he can be great to watch but he is overrated as he isn’t as good as people say he is and there is so many other players in the world i would rather have from £62 million
You made it sound as if i said he is a crap player when i clearly didn’t!!! as i would love to have him in liverpool bu i’m fed up with epple saying how amazing Kaka is when infact he is great at best!!
and LOL yeah some of the posts on the 3 in 3 out one are very laughable when people go lets have silva,villa etc
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
no need for hermanes, he’s a good player but would rather the 18mill be spent on a striker.. if your going to to brazil pick up Adriano.
if we were going to get someone i would rather have Yoann Gourcuff….. now he is a player
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
…samlfc… look i think kaka is overated, i would have gerrard over him any day of the week… kaka is a very good player thats it….
Donavan Ried - November 13th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
You can tell that Internationals are being played again by the treads that we are given …….
Can see why they don’t play these “Friendlies and Qualifiers” post season …. Would be so much better for clubs and countries ….
Donavan Ried - November 13th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Sorry , Typo, rushing again …… Should read …..
Can’t see why they don’t play these “Friendlies and Qualifiers” post season …. Would be so much better for clubs and countries ….
Retryboy - November 13th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
And for us! Know the international break will let a few of our walking wounded recover but hate having to wait 2 weeks for a game. I don’t really feel as passionate about england as i used to don’t know why i don’t any more even its a world cup qualifier still just seems in the way to me!
anonymous - November 13th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Sell Lucas, voronin, dossena and babel that should be more than enough to get RDV & and this new Brazilian!
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 12:13 am
cesar villaluz, gareth bale, or bojan would be great to have in liverpool as they are all young and got great potential and also can play on the left wing which is liverpool’s weakest spot in my opinion. i dont think right now we need a midfilder since we got mascharano, aqulini, lucas, gerrard and also lets not forget benayoun is also looking good in the midfield role. and plus lucas has potential he will improve even more. i just hope aurelio comes back fit to fill in the left spot because he is one sickkkkk fukn player and improved a lot over the years but i dono wtf is wrong with babel and riera they are not just playing up to their standards. but at the same time i wuldnt mind having hernanes coz i think he has a good future probably could be the next gerrard in a liverpool shirt..hahaha u wishhhh boyy..GERRARD is one and only.
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 12:27 am
All these rumors are nothing but thoughts of fairyland
we need to get the owners out to stand any chance of bringing quality players
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 12:38 am
no its not just rumors, we are actully involved in the transfer window this season to get some new face either the money is coming from the owners or by selling a few shit players.
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 3:18 am
every player we buy now should either have premier league experience and be good or be one of the worlds best even though at the moment we wont get a world class player because were broke.o yer all those liverpool fans with villa silva ribery yaya toure on ur wish list be realistic !!!!
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 6:30 am
we need back up for our best players – torres and gerrard – a brilliant young talented midfielder who could play in rotation with Alberto Aquilani and a natural winger. In my opinion Babel, Voronin, Dossena, El Zhar could easily be offloaded for an amount of 18/20. Torres needs a decent striker as replacement and i have no clue who rafa wants to buy though suarez would be my first option since he can play both striker and winger ! however, pavlychenko on loan for 6months aint too bad. VDV is a DIRECT replacement for Gerrard. That guy is a gem and is a pleasure to watch when he plays. his passing and shooting makes him one of the best attackers in the world today. Hernanes would be an awesome addition and i would love to see this deal go through. If you guys dunno what im talking bout check out his skills and goals in youtube ( even though if u check out PAST lucas, you will see he was on track to be the next kaka ) YNWA =/
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 6:56 am
There is a world class striker waiting for a call from any top european club, some1 who has proven that he can be the worlds best. And best of all, hes only 26 and for free in January – Adriano. I hope we sign ADRIANO and VAN DER VAART in January. what a team we will have then. Ngog and Nemeth can learn a lot from Adriano and Torres. VDV can operate in central midfield and on the wings. Two signings for free !!! Cumon Rafa both are 26 and have good 3/4 years left on them.
Retryboy - November 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
4/5 good games no goals, no assists and lucas is the next kaka? One extreme to the other!
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Retryboy i believe u have very little sense about football. Please check out the history of lucas before he came to liverpool. And if you do understand english and if its your first language you will clearly see that it was written ” lucas WAS on track to be the next kaka ” THanks
kopman - November 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Theres so many possible signings that would fit into the club but people seem to keep making these huge shopping lists.
as much as i would like to see liverpool signing huge stars i dont think its really going to happen….but…….having said that why would we need to?
I mean we spent 21 mil on torres who wasnt regarded as one of the best in the world and look now, aquilani will be fantastic when he gets some game time and i think he will be worth every penny.
What i do agree with is the fact that when torres is injured we have a range of “strikers” (if thats what we could call them) who just arent up to playing in the premier league, therefore i think its time to get rid of them and sign sum1 who can keep up i think carlton cole is a decent player but for 20 mil no way.
New striker i think should be carew (i should say that i didnt think of this before i saw sum1 else write this on an earlier post) i think this for the same reason as the poster said which is for his aerial ability.
I think jonas gutierrez would fit into the team pretty well, i dont recall what side he plays on but if riera is to be sold i think he would fit in well and i dont feel kuyt playing on the right ia a permanent solution so he would be able to go there if he does actually play on the right, with yossi central. this would also leave kuyt free to play in his natural position if needed.
also a new defender is needed although i wouldnt like top guess at this i think defenders are harder to choose than any other position coz make 1 bad choice and it could be raining shots on our net all season, although im sure there are a few defenders out there that would beinifit us greatly.
kermit - November 14th, 2009 at 9:44 am
steven gerrard is the best footballer of his generation quote kaka
kaka was better several years ago when he tore man utd to pieces in the cl semi final,but in terms of consistency gerrard has been doing it for ten years and in my opinion getting even better with each year, i dare say he could play any position on the field and do it better thanmost
as a right back he d be second best to maybe johnson in the perm league as a right midfielder he d be the best midfield best, maybe bar fabregas rght now
support striker best
main striker better than most of the donkeys out there, most of all he is an inspiration and dragged a mediocre team to win the champins league
and lets face we had a mediocre team, if gerrard steps up at this world cup that wouldreally cement it for me
i dont know how he has yet to win the balon d or
kermit - November 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
lucas wont be the next kaka, but he will be brilliant and i think if benitez stays at anfield long term he will be the next liverpool captain
Retryboy - November 14th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Who cares what lucas was labelled as being on track to be? Every young player who performs well gets labelled the new messi, kaka, gerrard, Ronaldo its just a way to make people take notice of a headline with a name they haven’t heard of. Why do we need to check youtube videos of our own players we have watched for years?
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am
shut up stupid retryboy. lucas is the youngest ever brazilian to win the golden ball at the under 21 world cup ( which brazil won ) and the youngest brazilian to win the brazilian league golden ball ( best player ). Thats exactly when we bought him but he cudnt keep up with our style and pace. but hes slowly turning into a second mascherano. It would be very difficult to say if he will be a good attacking midfielder but mark my words, he is a very good holding midfielder. So you see, no1 labelled him the next KAKA, he earned the title of ” THE NEXT KAKA ” ! ignorant.
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
And no1 was talking bout youtube except you. see how stupid u make urself look ? stop looking at youtube. go read some books, articles or watch the news. its called learning. LOL
Aquaman - November 14th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
The next this, the next that. Rubbish. No two players will ever be the same and dubbing them this way is just stupid. I can understand saying that he’s a Kaka like player (meaning he hs similar strengths and approaches the game in a similar way), but this dubbing just raises expectations and pressure on the man.
As for whether we want him, I agree with Donavan. How many midfielders do we need? This will only ever be likely if Masch leaves, and I don’t see that happening in Jan. Plus then we’ll probably get another def minded midfielder instead. Lucas is becoming more and more of the linkman that we lacked after Xabi left. If Masch goes then he may go back again, which will be a shame.
I think this money would be better spent elsewhere. On a Carlton Cole for example, or a winger.
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Realm Interlect:people should not compare players this way it puts to much pressure on young players and they dont make it sissoko/viera cherou/zidane babel/henry see wat i mean.
Retryboy - November 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Anon obv too retarded to remember your own comments at 6.30 when you tell us to check out youtube for past lucas. So what is he then? New mascherano or new kaka, bit of a difference in styles isn’t there? Obviously someone labelled him as that you mong its a ridiculous comparison same as all the comparisons are. He is the new lucas thats all.
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Realm Interlect:We cant afford to buy players dat are unproven.
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Voronin aut – Hernanes in, and Liverpool can not afford to sell any more players.
Selling Babel would really be stupid becouse it is almost imposible to find a player of his quality for the money Benitez would get for him. And the situation with constant injureys means there is a shortage of good players available to play, every weak, or twice a weak. Season in CL is maybe over, we still need to sea, but there is still titles to win, cups at least, Europa League, FA cup and to finish fourth in PL.
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
lose lose lose liverpool = leeds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anonymous - November 14th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
I support all the way through
I think he is the best coach although i sometimes doubt his managerial thinking
to look at it from a different angle this hassle of slightly unheard of players being linked to us would not have been created if the American retards would have given the money to us in the summers for us to buy proper players
with that being said Rafa new the money shortage to some extent ….
and with the knowledge him sending Nemeth for a season long loan is just a weird decision as far as i think
Nemeth can easily break into first team and him or Ngog playing alongside Torres is something i have been waiting to watch for a long while
I just think our team would be extremely lethal when played with two strikers
I dont understand why Rafa loves the one lone striker thing so much
English football is based on 4-4-2 …
Lets come to Masch now …. Masch is a good player but he has a lotta lets say gaps in his play … he likes to hold the ball for way too long than needed and if you notice it breaks the momentum of the team too much, he is not that great of a passer …..
You knew that you were going to be short on players still you went out for a very skilled but injured midfielder in Aquilani ….
And for fucks sake play Babel upfront as a striker if you want to take anything out of him ….
We dont need much in the team right now,
these transfer rumours and actual transfer even would only be done to calm the fans down so that they think that yah the club is doing something and not sitting ducks
Rafa needs to put these youngsters in action its about time and not just Ngog and Spearing a couple more …. Nemeth should have been kept and played in this season ….
Hernanes is a smart player, a good one …. but we seriously dont need him
we dont need a central midfielder ……
Gerrard, Aquilani, Masch, Lucas, Spearing the list is long enough
All we need is Rafa to have some more confidence in the youngsters and not the confidence to bring them to Liverpool and polish them but to actually play them already …..
I support Rafa but if we have even the Slightest possibility to bring Keegan in I would jump for that opportunity, that man knows the club and can do extreme wonders …..
And hello ! Kaka is a brilliant player, he is extremely good. Do you even watch football?
Retryboy - November 14th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Anon at 10.19 good to see someone with some belief in our youngsters! Spot on with all your points.
JOHN LFC - November 15th, 2009 at 12:56 am
There isn’t going to be another Kaka! Don’t say he is over-rated. He has earned his reputation for a reason; he is quick (on and off the ball), finishes well and is a good creative force. He wins games for teams.
Lucas has got talent or else he wouldn’t have been cosidered by alot of teams before we bought him. No one seems to pick on people like Spearing who to be fair are not that good. Lucas puts in alot of effort has performed consistantly good this season when our ’star players haven’t. So, give him a break.
For £18m we can get younger and more talented player is areas we need people in. Like Centre-Forwards and Wingers.
I think some of our ‘dead-wood’ aren’t as good as some youngster, so, it would be nice to see some of them given a chance.
We could raise £18m but i would like to see L.Suarez because he is versatile and would off great cover for Torres and we could even play 4-4-2 when needed.
Retryboy - November 15th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Nobody is on lucas back just said the new kaka statement was ridiculous as it is with all young players don’t agree with labelling players the new this or that it downgrades them.
anonymous - November 15th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Kop King
We don’t want an up and comming Kaka, what we need is an up and comming Gerrard.
anonymous - November 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
i’ve seen him play, he is even better than kaka. GO FOR HIM!!
anonymous - November 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
This all is nothing but fairytale stories.
first of all i don’t think rafa will buy any player who
creative
goal scorer
aware of the play
can create as well as finish
play with flair
in short an ATTACKING PLAYER
he will just go on with players like voronin nd his own ego
anonymous - November 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
I TOUCH MYSELF
WANNA HAVE A GO?
anonymous - November 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Sell OFF Masch, Lucas, Babel, N’gog, Voronin, Kyrgiakos!!!
Then start talking bout quality players..
anonymous - November 15th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I think there are some mental wish lists among this and I think some are playing to much FIFA and Pro Evo and im glad some of you are not the Liverpool manager. That said I think Benitez is an easy target to pick out, when realistically its the players fault, Benitez is an amazing tactioner, he picks the team and mentors the training-its up to the players on the pitch to do the work and they are simply not good enough. As for the owners I believe all they are there for is to try and make money, and that cant be done with a Premier league ’soccer’ team as they would say. I think we need to oust them and let these Arabs in, I have no wish to see an Arab own Liverpool as much as the next man but they are filthy rich and don’t mind splashing the cash, do Man City have £290m of debt from £350m???NO. I also think yas are all overlooking a perfect candidate for striker, Sergio Aguero- He has played with Torres before and knows his game, he will deff 100% score goals and win trophies. I also think with our wing problem we do need an already made winger, not a progressing 1 and Silva would be the answer as Valencia now HAVE to sell to recoup £130m between the January and June transfer windows. I also think getting Phillip Lahm before United do would be a good step also, because he can give the same on the left as Johnson does on the right. Benayoun I think is one of the most under-rated players and ‘twinkle-toes’ as I call him puts in so much effort and inspiration it would be a shame to see him leave, if he was allowed his central role permanently and not fighting for it or filling in other roles i think he would be a great contributor to the score card and the assists. Kuyt I would never sell because the man is a machine, another Gerrard or Carragher or Finnan when he was there, 100% EVERY game- at times i think he is going to drop with exhaustion but he keeps on going, again playing in his proper position and not filling in I think he would contribute massively. On the Masherano front, he was one of my favourite players from he played for Corinthians, and when I heard we were getting him I was overjoyed, however demanding a triple wage rise or he was walking is not a player who plays for the shirt, and if they don’t play for the shirt, why have them? If Barca want him so bad, why not say, “Ok no problem he is the best holding midfielder in the world and you can have him, just give us Iniesta in return.” If they want him that bad they will agree, and Iniesta can defend AND score goals and on the plus side hes Spanish so his new team mates will be mostly Intl team mates anyways and they will know each others play rather than the ’settle in’ period, because we need action not time. As for our Midfield, we have to many defensive Midfielders, with the acquisition of Aquilani we have him and Benayoun and thats the only natural attacking Midfielders- lets not forget Stevie started as DM/CM but has eased himself into AMF, but in my opinion plays better CM with attacking options. And just to finish off anyone who thinks Kaka is over-rated, or that we should by Carlton Cole needs sent to a lepper-island or else they should have gone to Spec-Savers! If its English we want we should be looking at, Downing, Lennon, A Young and Michael Johnson and thats not to mention ‘the one that got away’ Peter Crouch.
anonymous - November 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Just like 2 say 2 the person who thinks that bringing in the European coaches is a bad idea-Your a tosser, if you check the rankings we are pulling in some of the most talented coaches in the game 2day, and long may it last.
anonymous - November 16th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
LIVERPOOL EATS SHIT FOR DINNER
anonymous - November 18th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Ha ha you even dared to call Ashley Young as the new Kaka 2 years ago.
C’mon man stop uttering blasphemies one after another.And yeah Liverpool don’t even have money for issuing return tickets to players after friendly(of course kidding)!
anonymous - December 5th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Hi, people I`m from Brazil and I`m São Paulo`s fan.
Like Hernanes is a very good player, he has a very good pass and excellent power shoot, but he is a little bit different to Kaka, like Hernanes is similar to Pirlo.
Here everybody say like Hernanes is a new Pirlo, in Brazil the player that is similar to Kaka don`t have more, only Conca that he is from Argentina and Cleiton Xavier that this is a just good player.
Thanks.