Rafa Benitez got his Liverpool side back to winning ways in this Merseyside derby.
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anonymous - November 30th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Let no one be fooled…we were lucky as fuck to get a result here….
we are still a million miles away from where we should be….
dont pull your heads out of the sands yet!!!
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anonymous - November 30th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
DJ_KIDA
Couldnt agree more with the comment above. We were very very lucky. But Reina even had the chance to show why he’s the best keeper in the league. Even Fellani couldnt get passed him from 2 yards!! hahaha….
But again, we were very lucky. They could of beat us at least 4 or 5 goals to the better, 2 dis-allowed goals they had, and missed a few sitter’s which Reina should never of saved or they should never have missed. Untill Rafa made the first 2 sub’s, our midfield were all over the place, even Gerrard struggled to make a good pass in the first half.
Were a long way off, but its a start!
YNWA!
DJ KIDA
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kermit - November 30th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
we won and for that i am happy , plus when yossi and riera came on we looked like we could tear thenm apart, for this i am happy
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anonymous - November 30th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Thats what a football is. SOmetimes we get lucky. SOmetimes we not.
Most of the game this season, we got unlucky.Many major players injured.,alonso out to real madrid etc..
But, in this game, we are lucky. we win..
Hope it will rise confident for players..
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Dirty Sanchez - November 30th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Great Result!! The look on Mascherano’s face when his strike went in was priceless. He looked more suprised than anyone else on the pitch!! In any case he deserved it. Man of the match in my opinion.
The final score, however, does not reflect the game. We were lucky to get away with all 3 points. I’d like to say that Everton deserved to get something out of the game but they failed to capitalize on the pressure they put on us. Ha!
It was good to see the immediate impact Yossi and Riera had on the game. Looked very promising going forward – though Everton were playing somewhat discouraged in the last 10-15 minutes.
Would have loved to see Aquilani replace Lucas or even an under-performing Gerrard at 2-0 up and 10 minutes to play. Baffled he didn’t get an appearance at all.
Finally our tactic of not having a man on each post at corners paid off for the first time!
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kermit - November 30th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
i d have taken gerrard off and ut aquilani on nce we went 2-0 up
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Donavan Ried - November 30th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
This tread was a bit late
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anonymous - November 30th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
no one really played well, BUT Gerrard was not fit(but played),riera,benayoun,not fit enough to play,aurelio,agger not fully fit.
with 6 days till the next match that gives time for gerrard,benayou,riera,agger,aurelio to get fully fit.
and to get torres back.
also since Blackburn are a reasonably easy team(though still dodgy) maybe we will be 2/3-0 up then aquilani can play
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Ryan Babel - November 30th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
no one really played well, BUT Gerrard was not fit(but played),riera,benayoun,not fit enough to play,aurelio,agger not fully fit.
with 6 days till the next match that gives time for gerrard,benayou,riera,agger,aurelio to get fully fit.
and to get torres back.
also since Blackburn are a reasonably easy team(though still dodgy) maybe we will be 2/3-0 up then aquilani can play
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Ryan Babel - November 30th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
the way our luck has been so far we almost deserved that luck, maybe its a turning point in our luck this season.
looks like chelsea will win the prem better than man u
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RyanO - November 30th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Obviously, there must be something wrong with Aquilani. Otherwise, this is Robbie Keane all over again, but with less appearance minutes.
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anonymous - November 30th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Let’s be grateful for small graces, 3 points, winning (although) ugly with no injuries. A few days for our boys to work on their form and to get healthier. Last I checked they don’t give points for style in the EPL.
mark g.
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anonymous - November 30th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Kieron
i really hope rafa doesnt think we have won 2 games on the bounce with this set up ill keep it as it is because honestly in cl we should have drawn and everton should have beaten us , hope he plays an attacking side from now on because were a defensive team with a bad defence dont really make sense.
it wont happen but ill love him to drop lucas replace him with aquilani and drop kuyt and replace him with benni and riera on left but its rafa so at the weekend expect a normal back 4 full backs on the wings to cb holding and a cb playing off a striker who does happens to be reina once again well done raffa
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anonymous - November 30th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
name is Nick
yes we should be happy for the much needed 3 minutes but lets not forget Everton played better and we were lucky with the deflection as usual mascherano shot was going wide and kuyt got an easy tap in but altogether a win is a big win in a derby match and everton should have done better especially the tap in for billyadentinov.
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anonymous - December 1st, 2009 at 12:30 am
paul
It wasn’t the prettiest of displays, but it was up there with the grittiest.
Credit to Everton, who played well, but the Reds created the better chances (if you exclude clearly offside situations, when goals were only scored because of that illegal advantage).
Both Merseyside clubs have been experiencing a lot of injuries this term, and a difficult run of form as a result. And yet only one manager seemed to be under pressure.
David Moyes is granted all kinds of pardons for his own terrible injury problems (pardons he merits, incidentally), but Benítez is told to get on with it, such is the blatant hostility dished out by certain quarters of the media. Just compare and contrast the sympathy.
We have a situation where Charlie Nicholas says on TV that Liverpool have only had one injured player lately (Torres). I kid you not! If this is “opinion”, then I might as well say that Nicholas only has one finger, without bothering to check either of his hands for the remaining nine digits.
Nicholas is right, only if you ignore the scores of others Reds who’ve been crocked, and focus on the phoney notion that Liverpool only have two players anyway.
It’s not just been the quantity of injuries, but the constant switching of the team because of them.
Nine different defenders had to be used in the first ten league games; Gerrard and Torres rarely paired together, and never fully fit; all of the wide midfielders out for a few games, at least; Aquilani injured for longer than had been expected (which also complicates putting him into the side).
I can almost get into double figures with those who have been either injured or struggling for match fitness in the past fortnight alone. (I’m even looking into horse placenta treatment for myself, in the hope that it cures baldness.)
Every fan wants to see Aquilani, and I’m no different. However, a boggy pitch in Hungary and a Mersey derby are not ideal introductions.
And with the Reds winning those two games, what’s the problem? Now Benítez is being criticised for keeping an unchanged team.
Getting Aquilani match-fit is important, but victories right now are absolutely crucial. It’s also fairer on the player to not be expected to produce the magic wand.
Let’s also examine the tactical slaughtering Benítez took before the match.
There was this pearler from the ubiquitous Anon on the BBC, which was picked out for their score update page, but also sums up the kind of thing actual pundits were suggesting:
“I don’t know what is wrong with Benitez, his team selection is mad. Leaving Benayoun and Riera on the bench is crazy and we have two left backs on the field – and we have a striker/winger that can’t cross or score.”
This is the kind of lack of insight that shows how empty vessels make the most noise; and how the mass media are happy to facilitate them by adding a voluminous echo.
For starters, both Riera and Benayoun were recovering from recent hamstring problems. How can a fan not understand that? That’s basic knowledge.
Next, Aurelio is no simple left-back shoved into midfield, but a cultured footballer with a great left foot. And Insua is an incredibly attack-minded full-back who came closest to adding a second for the Reds (from the the right-back’s cross) before Kuyt duly obliged.
Yes, the great Anon is also suggesting that Kuyt can’t cross (go and watch last season’s DVD and see what rubbish that is) or score; yet has now got 20 goals in one-and-a-third seasons, without penalties. He’d not been at his best in recent weeks, after a bright start to the campaign, but was back on song at Goodison.
So much for a negative central midfield, too. Mascherano, with a shot out of the Frank Lampard playbook, scored (or “created”) the opening goal, and in the second half, Lucas was absolutely mowed down for a penalty as he got ahead of the strikers. (I’m losing count of the stone-wall penalties waved away this season.)
I’m not going to pretend that the duo are in the side for their attacking flair, but they do allow the full-backs more licence to get forward, with each player possessing a tactical maturity beyond their years, if not the full gamut of skills.
The team needs to be looked at as a whole, and that’s the balance they provide. Both have been outstanding in the past month.
And let’s face it, for the most part, scoring goals hasn’t been the Reds’ problem this season (or last), especially in the league. But with two long-overdue clean sheets, maybe that particular corner was the crucial one to turn.
And much of that improvement is down to the return of the Agger/Carragher partnership, with the former back to full fitness, and the latter back to his commanding best.
I really didn’t understand Alan Hansen’s logic when he recently said that Rafa hadn’t bought any great players in the sub-£10m bracket. For me, Reina – whose outstanding double save secured the draw – and Agger, each around £6m, are world-class, before even getting onto bargains like Benayoun, Insua, et al.
Agger’s return to the side has been crucial. He is the most underrated central defender around; but only underrated because injuries have curtailed his progress in the past couple of years.
Yet he’s still only 24, and not yet quite in a central defender’s prime years (usually 25-32, given that they mature later, due to the value of experience when reading the game).
When he’s fit, he has it all.
Indeed, with Johnson and Insua so strong going forward, the inclusion of Agger in the side means yet more progressive movement from the back; which again adds context to why Mascherano and Lucas have played.
But often, the psychological side of a slump is the hardest thing to counter. Look at Manchester City, with their hugely expensive squad, including enough strikers for half the division. Their fear is that they will concede late goals and draw games they were winning.
With it playing on their mind, they concede late goals and draw games they were winning.
That’s why a couple of victories on the spin, complete with clean sheets, is so important.
The upside of all of Liverpool’s injuries is that it should mean extra freshness in the remaining two-thirds of the season – providing that everyone is over their existing problems and only a ‘normal’ amount of niggles occur from now on.
It’s also helped provide the emergence of David N’Gog as a rapidly improving understudy to Fernando Torres. It might not be the ideal way to blood the young Frenchman, but his progression has definitely been a bonus.
It might need a fully fit and sharp Gerrard, Torres, Aquilani and Benayoun – or even just three of that quartet – for the Reds to be at their exciting best, but the important aspect of this week has been winning games and keeping it tight at the back.
The corner isn’t fully turned. But it’s a start.
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anonymous - December 1st, 2009 at 1:12 am
Hear, hear Paul. You made a large number of great points, I hope at least some of them will register with contributors, whose only raison d’etre on this forum is make vicious personal attacks on the manager. When we didn’t win, they screamed murder, now when it seems things are looking up, they complain about the gritty style of our victories. I’m convinced, behind many posts are xenophobia and hostility towards Rafa who is not a british subject.
By the way, one observation from the last 2 victories, the players were showings their support for Rafa by leaving it all on the field. And that all that matters. Hope to see you back here soon.
Mark G.
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kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 1:34 am
paul you cannot condone playing a left back in the left wing position when you have two left wingers on the bench and a more attacking left full back in dossena, rafa played a ridiculous lineup, aurelio was totally inept and out of his depth as a winger , he lacks speed, the only thing he is any good at were his deliveries from setpieces, something which has definately abandoned him, gerrard had no support coming from the midfield or either flank really for large portions of the game
once yossi and riera were introduced it looked like we could destroy everton we looked more threatening and took control of the game, so why start with such a defensive player in such an attacking position, once more rafa placed more emphasis on not losing than actually going out to win the game.
he waits too long in making saubstitutions
yossi 74th min
riera 77th minute
why cant he make changes earlier in the game, why wait so long, its almost pointless
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anonymous - December 1st, 2009 at 1:54 am
kermit, both riera and benny are not 100%, coming back ftom hamsting injuries, thank’s god they survived minutes they got unscathed…
mark g
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Retryboy - December 1st, 2009 at 2:02 am
Another woeful display until we brought on the subs makes a big difference having 4 attack minded players on the pitch. Benayoun played nearly a full game against debrecen and was fine so could have started. Aquilani could have started further up and gerrard dropped back we just invite teams onto us and they can afford to throw everyone forward cos with kuyt and lucas passing range we break at turtle pace. Johnson again showed he could be effective further up and kuyt showed again he is a poacher not a right winger. The back four did well under pressure. Lucky for us that saha, yak, arteta were out otherwise they would have put away one or more of their numerous chances. Wins a win but we need a performance against blackburn to build confidence with arsenal coming up and rafa needs to put some attack minded players in we need creativity and there is £20m worth living on the bench.
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kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
you stupid fat spanish prick , fuck off now
seriously he says and i quote we cant use aquiani because he isnt match fit, but speaks on the lfc website about gerrard playign three games in ten days without having done any training for the previous three weeks
fuck off back to spain you useless spanish cunt
mr fucking contradict myself
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Aquilani4goals - December 1st, 2009 at 10:48 pm
we were lucky against everton
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kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 10:53 pm
aquilani was fit sat on the bench, gerrard hadnt trained in three weeks prior to the city match and he threw him in risking serious injury, yossi managed 60 mins against city, i m sure he could have managed a similar amount against everton but no he chose aurelio who is also recovering from injury, and dossena who is a far more attacking left sided player than aurelio was overlooked to play left wing
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kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 10:53 pm
i dont buy anything benitezz says anymore
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Retryboy - December 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Torres is having a fitness test and if he gets through one training session rafa will play him aquilani has been fit for over a month! Its total garbage. Johnson and gerrard get risked all the time as does benayoun. He just doesn’t want to play a more attacking midfielder and if he makes aquilani sit people won’t have it. Can get away with it with lucas because as far as most of us without your knowledge of his career in brazil kermit thought he was a defensive player anyway.
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