The Perfect £4m Signing Liverpool Should Sign: Forget Eduardo and Cole!

mark g - December 1st, 2009 at 5:33 pm

Play N’gog and Nemeth, before bringing RVN. Use money for Kjaer or Cissoko (LB). That’s where we need strengthening first.

jimmyk - December 1st, 2009 at 5:56 pm

bring nemeth back now and rotate between him and nogo. buy van to use when we need experience up front. we need goals.

RyanO - December 1st, 2009 at 5:59 pm

This has to be one of the stupidest ideas I’ve ever heard being bandied about. Horseface is too old, too slow and NOT good enough for Liverpool. It amazes me how supporters and the media slag off young developing players like Lucas who still has much to learn and improve, yet remains a big part of the team while pining away for washed up stars from other teams as if they are going to be some type of savior. And FOUR MILLION for this player is a sick joke! The ONLY way I would have him, on any team because I don’t want him at Liverpool, would be on a free. Fuck Ol Horseface, seriously.

RyanO - December 1st, 2009 at 6:47 pm

Jaysis, Mary and Joseph. Horseface is most certainly NOT a better solution than David N’Gog. N’Gog is on the cheap, you boys want to pay FOUR MILLION for this washed up twat. N’Gog has tons of upside and will be a star, but we should buy and play a wash out. Fucksake.

Retryboy - December 1st, 2009 at 6:59 pm

Depends on if torres needs an operation or not. Ngog is developing well and confident moving kuyt up front with him would help both of them. Having torres with ngog backing him up and kuyt with nemeth as back up works best for me. Babel on the right, yossi on the left stevie g and mascherano in the middle.

dave - December 1st, 2009 at 7:41 pm

i don’t think rvn would make a difference,stick with what we have for now and keep money for the summer if we even have any,then buy a couple more top class players.squad nearly all fit and i think we will be playing and winning well by the portsmouth game on the 19th

Donavan Ried - December 1st, 2009 at 8:16 pm

Why waste the £4m, signing on fee and wages……. Look for a more permanent solution in the summer. In the meanwhile play some of the youths……

Aquaman - December 1st, 2009 at 8:45 pm

Van Nistelrooy is a good player and his experience could be useful for the dressing room, however there are four reasons why I don’t think this will happen:

1) He’s a manc
2) His wage demands will be astronomical. We can’t afford to waste cash on experience alone. We need quality for a long period of time.
3) He’s a bit of a crock himself. He’s been through several patches of injury recently and the last thing we need is a well paid backup on the treatment table.
4) He’s a manc!

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 10:28 pm

totally off point but on the lfc website benitez states its been hard for gerrard we have used him in the last three matches when he had not trained in the three weeks prior to them, so how can he use lack of match fitness as an excuse not to play aquilani
seriously he is trying to pull the wool over our eyes about something, and i for one am not fooled by his wayward contradictory and lame excuses

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 10:29 pm

arsenal go chasing balotelli, man city after aguero
we are after van nistelroy
it tells its own story
we are buggered under benitez

RAFA OUT

dave - December 1st, 2009 at 10:39 pm

kermit,we don’t have the money and that has nothing to do with benitez.
maybe in the summer we will have funds for a quality striker.

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 10:57 pm

no anon but its rafas fault he didnt see two man city goals coming and make suitable changes to our game plan to prevent them

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 10:59 pm

i saw the two goals coming, did you???
if i could and you could then why couldn t the useless spanish man
oh wait he had two players injured alreayd and coulfdnt risk bringing on a sub, fair point#
but he could have dropped gerrard into midfeld and stuck kuty up front with ngog to get a grip on the game
did he nah he just sat back and watched as man city attacked us wave after wave??/

if my head is up donvans arsehol; then yours is firmly up rafa s

Warren Bloggs - December 1st, 2009 at 11:00 pm

Well, i know i have suggested i would like RVN at Anfield, but i think Pandev of Lazio is the most sound option. His contract ends in the summer so (out of fear of him going elsewhere – we know how slow Rafa is in the transfer market!) get him in Jan for £4m. Could play in the ‘hole’, along with Torres or up on his own ect.etc.

Absolute bargain in my mind!!

dave - December 1st, 2009 at 11:04 pm

liverpool will finish at least 3rd this season and will end up closer to the top two than they are now.
a strong spurs team struggling against a weakened man utd team tonight.
arsenal have hit a bad patch and definitely miss van persie.liverpool will beat them at anfield on december 13th
man utd are not as strong as previous seasons and between 20 march and 24th april will have to play us,chelsea,spurs and away to city so they will lose points near the season end.
chelsea will hit a bad patch and are due an injury crisis,not to mention the holiday that will be taken by drogba,kalou,jon obi mikel and essien in january.

i also believe the liverpool players will want to make amends,the way mascherano reacted to liverpool’s first goal against everton shows this,our club is used to making history and we could be the first team in history to win the europa league.it would also put more money in the coffers and the fa cup is still a possibility.

we will go on a run and a good cup run,nearly everyone is fully fit and hopefully soon will be in good shape and playing like we know we can.
plus with their manager and player’s starting to show their cockiness,more teams will want to put them in their place.

Aquilani4goals - December 1st, 2009 at 11:14 pm

we need quality not some one that is old and rejected by real mardid.van no way

Donavan Ried - December 1st, 2009 at 11:18 pm

- December 1st, 2009 at 10:50 pm …… This is the 4th time that you i mentioned my ass ……. You’ve been watching me…. I know you’ve been watching me….. I know that you know that i know you’ve been watching me …..

Donavan Ried - December 1st, 2009 at 11:19 pm

Aquilani4goals like the pic

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 11:21 pm

not as good as the pic of his ex though

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 11:24 pm

pavlyuchenko isnt bad player at all, i watched him in russia , i sw hi at the euros#
david bentley isnt a bad players
ryan babel isnt a bad player
sometimes players and coaches just dont get on

i would not mind pav at anfield, i would prefer adriano now, i d take saviola aswell.

dave - December 1st, 2009 at 11:25 pm

agree warren about pandev,but we could get him free in the summer and spend the money elsewhere.rafa ain’t slow in the transfer market.it was parry who took the time.we did’nt get barry because we had no money.as most of the johnson fee was what we were owed from the crouch sale.then rafa held out for a price on alonso and was never goin to let him go on the cheap.funny how no one mentions how there were no taker’s for alonso when his price was £15m in summer 2008.even though rafa did not get much from the sale of alonso,as it most probably went back to paying our loan interest from rbs as only a down payment of £4.25m was spent on aquilani and then the big greek for £1.5m.but if we didn’t sell alonso,i suppose we could be sitting fourth bottom in the league with a 10 point deduction and disqualified from european competition.
good job the man appointed by the rbs mr christian purslow is there to watch over our finances.
but then again the rbs feared a public backlash if they put us into administration.
you see we do not have the money to spend like citeh,chelski and manure
but with a new sponsorship deal we will get £20m each summer and some wheeling and dealing for more.
all we really done in the summer was replace alonso with aquilani and improve the right back with johnson which we were able to do as we were still owed so much from crouch.

Donavan Ried - December 1st, 2009 at 11:26 pm

kermit – December 1st, 2009 at 10:28 pm ….. I said it when we were first linked with Aquilani ….. That i question the wisdom of buying a injuried player …. Either Rafa is lying about Aquilani and there is still a underline problem/problems with him or, If we can take him at his word Aquilani is NOT match fit. In which case Rafa needs to be giving him more time on the pitch to gain that level of fitness ….. The concpet seems to escape Rafa …..

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 11:29 pm

i dotn doubt aquilani s abilty in the slightest, do have sme worries of his inury situation though

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 11:29 pm

point is he has to get thirty mins at home to blackburn, theres no more more excuses left to hide behind, gerrard isnt tipt op so give him sixty then aquilani thirty

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 11:30 pm

agree with you dave lets move rafa upstairs and let soem one manage the team who has a pair

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 11:31 pm

give him a managing directors role, he d be good at that, and get mancini in under him,

kermit - December 1st, 2009 at 11:39 pm

carlton cole is a donkey

Warren Bloggs - December 1st, 2009 at 11:46 pm

I have re-thought my transfer suggestions since my last ‘rant’ on the old article (do not fear this will not be as long lol):

So sell:

Dossena £5m
Voronin £4m
Babel SWAP

Income: £9m and i am going to guess/hope/pray our owners give us around £10m!! So….£19m

Sign:

Pandev (we need him in Jan! Cannot hesitate unless Rafa agrees a deal to take him in the summer) £4m

Elia (Babel) plus £5m

Kjaer £10m

Poss. Loan move for either Van der Vaart/ Van Nistelrooy?

RyanO - December 1st, 2009 at 11:54 pm

kermit, I finally agree with you on something. Carlton Cole is a donkey, in fact, he is a donkey of the highest order.

mark g - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 am

Dave, this is a great infusion of light bearing facts. I knew that we came close to going into an administration. SAF was aroun that time, talking with a glee about a big club beingin a financial strait jacket. Extension of the loan was far from certain, the yanks undertook (were forced by the RBS) to pay down the loan. it will take good and smart men, like Benitez and Purslow to navigate through the financial labyrinth for the next little while. There are no buyers for the club on the horizon, at least not at the price the yanks are asking. I agree it was a nifty move on Rafa part to secure Kyrgiakos, unfortunately his performance has been seen through the prism of his low price 1.5M+ Nemeth’s loan. I listen to the Game podcast from the Times this aft, majority of the pundits were supporting a shared stadium, as the only option to get us a stadium quickly, the only one who was not sure, believed the tribalism will kill this idea again. I believe this maybe neccessity …

dave - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 am

i hope they don’t do a ground share,but may be forced into it by the controlling banks to make sure they get their money back.
and kermit what would be the point in getting another manager which would mean us spending more and having less for new signings.

mark g - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 am

Dave at 11:25pm, this is a great infusion of light bearing facts. I knew that we came close to going into an administration this summer. There were whispers coming from the City, SAF was around that time, talking with a glee about a big club being in a financial strait jacket. Extension of the loan was far from certain, the Yanks undertook (were forced by the RBS) to pay down the loan. It will take good and smart men, like Benitez and Purslow working together, to navigate through the financial labyrinth for the next little while. There are no buyers for the club on the horizon, at least not at the price the yanks are asking. I agree it was a nifty move on Rafa part to secure Kyrgiakos, unfortunately his performance has been seen through the prism of his low price 1.5M+ Nemeth’s loan. After all he plays on a national team going to the World Cup next summer. I listened to the Game podcast from the Times this aft, majority of the pundits were supporting the shared stadium, as the only option to get us a stadium quickly. The only one who was not sure, believed the tribalism will kill this idea again. I believe this maybe a neccessity under present conditions. Keep it up coming Dave.

mark g - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 am

Sorry boys. This is the second time today when the same post is displayed twice, I hit enter nothing showed up, so I hit enter 2nd time….

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:18 am

since rafa got control of everything the club has gone to shit

mark g - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:20 am

Warren, great rewrite, I agree with all your purchase suggestions, would put Kjaer as top priority, I am afraid if he has a great World Cup, his price would go through the roof. I hope and pray 9M for Voronin and Dossena together is possible…..neither is playing at the moment.

dave - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 am

you can’t expect buying so many players will make us win straight away,they need time to settle in,neverless they are quite promising but even if we do sell i doubt the full amount we sell players for will be used for transfers,especially as we are still paying for torres and the next installment on the aquilani deal is due in january.

dave - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 am

i actually see the babel plus cash for elia a possibility.i think we will make an english signing next summer though as we need english players,i would like us to sign lennon or milner,also upson could be good for a knock down fee as he will be into the last year of his contract.i see quite a fewleaving in the summer and at least 2 signings and 2 youngsters promoted.

dave - December 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 am

it seems with my last 2 posts i am being contradictory but i mean we don’t have anything for january and in the summer we will have our £20m

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 1:21 am

micah richards for right back moving johnson to right wing , richards can work as cb cover also, for ten million wise move
then you gave babel and johnson to play right both really fast and both able to get past people
buy defour because i think masch will be leaving and i d rather have defour settled so we dont balls up next year also.
an aerial cb, i ve never seen kjaer play
bring back the loanies and we are laughing

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 am

wth torres and babel up front, gerrard making runs from deep in behind johsnon on one wing dossena on the other coming from deep i think we have plenty of pace , its just not utilised to its optimum

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 am

i want to see a forward line of babel and torres either side of the man in the hole aquilani/.gerrard or yossi, any of them can do it, torres is quick but babel is possibly the fastest player in the premiership

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 am

idont understand why this has never even been tried

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 am

to anonymous its rafas team selcyion and tactics thta alow teams to come at us lucas is told to hold his position until later in the game for some reason he then gets forward more , and wth more confdence and a few goals he could be a useful player in an attacking sense

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 3:22 am

Benitez also believes he picked up the Italy international for a good price due to the fact he was injured.

“If he had been fully fit maybe he could have cost £25-30million, so we were bringing in a good player for a good price and trying to do our best with the medical staff,” the Spanish coach said.

“The player is fit and training, but match fitness is something you can improve by playing games. So why have I not been playing him? Because the games are so close that if you put a player on the pitch who is not physically ready, maybe he cannot settle down in time.

exerpt from tribalfootball.com

yet benitez played gerrard three games ina row having not trained for three weeks

something strange is afoot at the circle k methinsk

Dirty Sanchez - December 2nd, 2009 at 6:19 am

We don’t need to buy anyone in January. Our current squad is more than capable of finishing in the top 4.

We would be better off trying to sell off those surplus to requirements – i.e. Voronin, Dossena, Degen. If we can add a few million to our transfer kitty next Summer we should be able to get Kjaer and Cissokho and maybe we’ll have cash left to get a discounted Citeh cast-off when they’re clearing house for their next 50M signing.

Warren Bloggs - December 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm

Geese i hate ANON’s!

Oh well, so WILL we be signing anyone come January?!

We still have to pay for Aqua so that’s what £4.5m?
Why not sell Dossena to Roma fc like they want to clear that off (valued at around £5m)

Then i imagine we will sell Voronin, and rumour has it we will ONLY be loaning out Babel. I cannot understand the logic of this? I mean if we sell Voronin then we have approx £3-4m only? If we are not going to utilise his talents then sell him on…..we could do with the £7-8m we would get form him. Rumour has it though that our ‘brilliant’ owners are going to use all the money from sales on players to pay off debt!! So in essense we will sell up to four players and no fresh faces will be coming in at all!!!!!!!!!

God forbid!

Warren Bloggs - December 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm

Are Liverpool fc becoming a selling club?

Retryboy - December 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 pm

We have missed out on champions league funds and qualification for next year is dodgy so can’t blame them for saying rafa has to sell, there are enough players that can go without weakening the massive squad, to buy. Thats ok but if he has to sell players and doesn’t get the money that is totally different.

Warren Bloggs - December 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm

So, after being so depressed thinking about the poss of not getting any new players i rather ‘deperately’ looked for some hope in the form of the ‘transfer rumour/banter’ website, i know it is highly unlikely this will come to fruition but it is a lovely thought…………..no?

So here goes (hopefully this will put a smile on some supporters faces)

‘……..Liverpool will only have £12m to spend in January and Rafa will not get the sales money to spend as well as the owners need it to pay off debts. However the owners will give Rafa an extra £10m to spend in the summer, making Rafa’s summer kity £30m plus sales.In January, Rafa will spend £3m on Goran Pandev and £4m will go towards Andrea Poli of Sampdoria, as Rafa sees him as a quality squad player with the future of a superstar. The last £5m will be spent on Junior Stanislas, as Rafa needs more English players in his squad. However, Rafa will make it so that he tries to make swap deals in January so he can get players, not money. Rafa will send Andrea Dossena to Napoli permanently if he gets Fabiano Santacroce on loan for the rest of the season. Rafa will insist on only paying Napoli another £4m for his permanent services. Andriy Voronin is wanted by Hamburg and Rafa is willing to take Jerome Boateng as part of the deal permanently in a straight swap. Philipp Degen will be sold to AEK Athens for £2m, so Rafa won’t see that money. Finally Albert Riera will return to Spain with Atletico Madrid in exchange for Maxi Rodriguez and £4m…………..’

Basically, we do the following:

1. Rafa will snap up Goran Pandev for £4m

2. Rafa will snap up Andrea Poli for £3m

3. Rafa will then finally sign Junior Stanislas for £5m

4. Liverpool-Napoli swap deal: Dossena for Santacroce on loan with a view to a permanent signing in Jan.

5. Liverpool-Hamburg swap deal: Voronin for Boateng permanent deal.

6. Degen will be sold to AEK Athens.

7. Apparently, we will also do a deal with Atheltico for Maxi Rodriguez with Albert Riera going the other way.

So, we would be keeping BABEL and possibly allow him to go out on loan?! Now again this is highly unlikely and is as the website suggest only a rumour but i really do like the sound of it. I doubt such a degree of business would take place in January but as i have said before i would like to see the winter window as a sort of ‘clear out-re-build’ period with the deadwood leaving and a few new players coming through. Would Rafa really sign 5 players and a further defender on loan, with up to 4 players leaving? Player sales would go to easing our debt so i think this is a ‘win-win’ situation!

I’m going now to reasearch some of the above players and will get back to you when i do…………..

Retryboy - December 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm

Nick-yeah i know nemeth is on loan as everyone knows been complaining about it all season would recall him and san jose from bilbao as dirty sanchez says the squad is quality and clearing out 6/7 for 2 quality makes sense Cissokho and Koman in… Cavalieri, degen, dossena, kyrgiakos, aurelio, voronin, plessis should fund that and free up £12m in saved wages trusting martin, darby, kelly, nemeth, ayala, san jose, pacheco as squad players not straight in the first team but capable back ups

Donavan Ried - December 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm

Retryboy – December 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm …….
Agreed…..
I think there is another good reason to start playing the Youngster more, as apposed to keep buying in players … Take a look at what Arsenal did when the built the Emirates … They where forced to bring some of the youngster trough in order to save money and pay off the debt on the Emirates ….. Five years or so down the line look at how strong they are ….. Not only have they got the young fully blooded talent playing first team football regular, but youth which they play in the Carling Cup … and also the Money to Sign New Quality players if Wenger wishes

We need to do all we can to build Stanley Park

Retryboy - December 2nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm

Spot on donovan people who say well Wenger hasn’t spent anything but he hasn’t won anything for years don’t seem to realise he kept arsenal in the top four whilst all their money went on the stadium now as you say they are reaping the rewards. Arsenal’s is definitely the model we want to look at as the way forward. There is also the satisfaction level of seeing the youngsters fulfilling their potential and making the squads. 30 man squad with 18 experienced and 12 youngsters still you would never be forced to play a youngster we have plenty of players who cover more than one position. All the extra money off wages saved as well would be massive.

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm

i stlll think we should lay both torres and babel up front, with any of gerrard aquilani or benayoun in the hole behind them

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm

we should be buying at least three players form the nigeria u17 team. especially the left back and two cnetral strikers, they were brilliant

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm

and its time pachecho became yossi s understudy, there ought to be this understudy buddy system at work, i mean the senior players could and prob do help these youngsters loads, but i mean involving them more, like a buddy system, pair them up as partners where they take specific time together working on their development, i m sure the youngsters would love appreciate and very much benefit from words of advice from players they admire, plus it would bring greater bonds between first teamers and the youngsters coming through, torres had ngog , nemeth kuyt yossi pachecho, keelly carragher, spearing mascherano and so on, and i d be playng the first team against the kids a lot in training to teach them the level they have to reach first handfor me thats the way to get them to premiership level, i wonder how long it would take before the reserve or youthful team gota result againstthe first team, either way they would certainly improve.

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 6:56 pm

i have a quaestion i understand where citys money comes from , but what about spurs , they alwaqys seem to have a fair whack of cash to spend, they certainly equal our spending, we have to sell to buy, or consider loan options

i d love steven defour in our squad, i d like jovetic also, and kjaer and micah richards, these players ought to be affordable to usunderstandably the agueros and eto o and messis wont be so we need to uncover these guys at a young age, and i m hoping our youth scouts are at all the underage world competitions because by watching these i could hae picked at least ten players who have gone on to make it big, starting wiht the ireland u 18 team and daien duff many mooons ago , you can watch some kids and just know these kids are gonna be big players, through to di maria , outstripped everyone at the last olympic games, right to the current nigeria u 17 squad with…sani emmanuel getting five goals in the last u17 world cup coming frm the bench, this could save us an absolute fortune and make us a mint

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 7:02 pm

the addition of kjaer defour jovetic and richards would bring our squad to the level of chelseas, where when one player is injured a player of equal or close to equal abilty can step in and fill voids.

how often do you hear chelsea players say mikel joe cole, kalou, all internationals whingeing they dont get enough games, answer never ,, i wionder why this is, could it be they are winning, or could it be some ethos around the clubs, or maybe the players actual characteristics, prob a combination of all of the above.

if our squad was as follows we d be seriously pushing chelsea for the stringet squad

gk reina cavalier

rb johnson richards kelly

cb richards kjaer carra agger kelly ayala

lb dossena aurelio insua

dm mascherano defour lucas

rm gerrard benni babel aquilani lucas

lm riera aquilani, yossi

strikers torres jovetic babel kuyt ngog nemeth

based on a diamind formation

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm

how much could it cost richards ten million defour 13 million kjaer 10 million jovetic 16 million, 49 million,
get an arab partner to hicks and get gillette out he looks like a little weasel and thats it sorted, that squad wwould win the league

kermit - December 2nd, 2009 at 7:22 pm

to anon at 7pm , i would play chelseas diamondbut i d have torres and babel up front with one of yossi gerrard and aqulani at the tip of the diamond