The Liverpool Player Who Deserves More Respect and Less Hatred!
by Thomas Maher on December 6th, 2009 113 commentsCOS Contributor Thomas Maher considers whether Lucas is suffering from a bad reputation or is he just not good enough?
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Is Lucas as good as he is gonna get? Is he a poor man`s Mascherano?
Lucas will never be anything like mascherano. He is naturally a far more attack minded player than we have seen under Benitez. I think the right hand side of a midfield diamond would be his best position at the moment. He needs a greater license to attack than he is allowed as a holding midfielder (check his stats from when he played in Brazil). This kid loved scoring goals and spectacular goals at that. By employing him in a deeper unfamilar holding role benitez added to his woes, not only being in a new lace new language new peopel new style of football he was being asked to adapt his game It suit Benitez s needs, depriving him of the opportunities to score goals and gain the adoration of the fans as he had had at gremio.He went from golden boy of brazilian football , to defensive minded player with the reigns on him held so firmly he couldnt attack, couldn t express himself freely.
His confidence dipped further, especially in the aftermath of last season s game against fulham, when the supporters turned on him (he was notably having a shocker) and was unaided by Benitez’s lack of protection in withdrawing him in the face of such abuse.Away from home, questioning his decision to come to england in the first place, homesick, constantly berated by supposed fans, now liverpools sole scapegoat for failure but he didnt quit, he adapted his game , learned how to tackle and track back, something not natural to him in order to get a game in a Liverpool shirt, and now his confidence is building slowly he is solid if not spectacular, surely fearful of the backlash any time he might make a mistake, he needs this solid platform to add the spectacular to his game.
I really admire Lucas for his character more than anything, i think if every fan got off his back and he manages to get a feww goals and the manager gives him more license to get forward we could have an amazing midfielder on our hands.
Is there room for Lucas to improve i would say bucketloads, give him time to stabilise and win the fans over through solid performances and as his confidence builds so will his abilty to shine come to the fore, i predict really big things for Lucas, i see massive potential in him, future captain of both Liverpool and Brazil is not beyond him, and i know most thoughtless football fans will think i am mad for thinking this, but i truly believe that given the right support encouragement and freedom to we could have eventually one the games greats on our hands, possibly even good enough to rival gerarrd and dare i say it possibly even better
i am fully aware i am putting myself out there for ridicule but this is how much i believe in Lucas.
His acheievement in Brazil at the age of 19 were equivalent if not better than anything gerrard had done in a Liverpool shirt at that age. now he has had to make huge adjustments for someone so young,( adjustments Gerrard has never had t make and certainly at not so tender an age) he never lived away from home before, he moved continent , never suffered abuse at the hands of his own fans, the football in England is faster , more adaptation , he didnt know any english when he came to Liverpool, so many things for him to deal with. Now he starts to grow and mature into a more defensive minded player under benitez. i would like to see benitez unleash his attacking threat more, he can head the ball, he attacks the ball well in the air , his confidence is low and his will to follow through ie his conviction not being fully there is understandable given the abuse he has received from some quarters of the Liverpool support. if i were lucas i dare say i would have left the club by now and spat on the gates of anfield as i left
he is building slowly, he has won a lot of fans over this season.
In Brazil he won the Brazilian footballer of the year so his skills were never in doubt, what he has learned in England is how to fight and battle , how to tackle and how to persevere through the storm, even though at times he has walked alone , he never really truly has, he has always had his secret pockets of admirers throughout the Liverpool fan base. he is beginning to turn the tide of hatred against him and even the remaining doubters have been quietly impressed with his levels of performance this season and that is the mettle that champions are made of. it is the mettle that captains of great teams are made of, men who wont lie down in the face of adversity, that wont walk away when the going gets tough but stay and fight, even in the face of the worst abuse imagineable from his own supporters. that is the kind of man and character that i want to lead to my club in future.i have been his fan since the day he signed and will be until the day he leaves and prob will still wish him well after.
Lucas Leiva I salute you.
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anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
personaly i don’t hate him,that’s a bit heavy…i’ll say i’m disappointed,as i am with babel,voronin,dossena,riera and skrtel this year so i think he is lucky there’s no one else apart from plessis i would say who can challenge him for a spot at the moment.
I do agree with you though,you can only do what’s been asked of you…maybe he is better than he’s allowed to be but we’ll never know until rafa gives him that AM role.
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
great article man
i have been a fan like you, yeah i belive in him….i see the way he torments the midfields to intercept the oppositon attacks,
the lad is never afraid to put a foot
damn, hes gonna be great
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Respect Lucas. Nuff Said.
...samlfc.... - December 6th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Fantastic article and i truly believe he just gets better and better after each passing week….soon everyone (including me) will wish they never said a bad thing about him….i’m starting to like the guy if i’m honist.
Keep it up Lucas!
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Good article but Lucas will never be good enuff to play for the reds , he is one of the worst players I have seen in a red shirt up there with voronin degan and ngog the sooner we offload the dead weights the sooner we can start building a squad for next season , this year we must concentrate on getting (and staying) in a champions league spot………… Crocky red.
Retryboy - December 6th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Kermit! You got your article through and shouldn’t have bothered. Pieces are supposed to be at least slightly objective and we have seen you writing this on every story. Well over the top about a player that is at best an average squad player who personifies everything bad about liverpool under rafa. Someone who along with kuyt is constantly picked over more creative, better players. If the likes of babel, nemeth, darby, pacheco or even spearing had been given a tenth of his chances they would be top players by now. Its really not lucas fault he can fill in if mascherano is injured or come on to shut down a game. He is not nor ever will be first team quality. When rafa goes hopefully he will get the madrid job then we can swap lucas back for alonso he loves him so much he would do it. These are comments not an article sorry, just because aquaman starts writing doesn’t mean anyone should do it. Also you write all this then complain he is in the team? Scooby doo’s less confused than you!!
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Great article… Hopefully some fans who hate him will cut him some slack
baggins09 - December 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
good right up- hi retry i think your missing his point mate lucas’s biggest down fall since comming to england has been the man who signed him, he was an attacking mid and has been forced to play a deffensive role and told to basically play like alonso and not himself,not aloud to attack or express himself at the end of the day he’s brazilian even there centerbacks attack, rafa has hindered his progression, lucas has pulled himself through this off his own back and upped his game fair enough he’s never gonna be masch or alonso but thats because he’s not masch or alonso and never will be, rafa is lucas’s biggest problem just like he is babels. we’d be so much better with a more adaptable attack minded gaffa
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
i dont care what anyone says i am one of Lucas Leiva best fans and i support this lad through thick and thin, he desrves alot of respect his passing his quality and he never gives up !
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
great article lucas has improved alot since the his first season at the club, to even want to play for liverpool after are fans booed him suprised me but now he has become a good asset for the club i like the way he closes down and breaks up the play and also the way he plays the ball from left to right along the floor and now he is getting himself into more atackive areas on the pitch also i think the fans should give him alot more respect for what he does for the team
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
he is a great player i think i have always believed in him and i have never said a bad thing about him
Retryboy - December 6th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
No fans got on his back straight away everyone was patient with him. Was after months and months of him ruining the team and at the time benayoun on the bench or when we needed a goal lucas being left on and creative players like yossi subbed. The frustrations were at the managers decisions. Called you a nob last time you said you would have spat on shankly gates if you were him and it still stands how can anyone talk about the most patient, understanding and knowledgeable fans in the world like that. He has gone from a total liability to an average player who ruins the balance of the team in 2 years and he has done it while in the first team of a top team. He got some boos so what. Where do you get the heading ability from as well he has missed 2 sitters only decent header he has done was into our own net against villa from a free kick he gave away only assist he has managed so you can give him that one too.
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
at the end of the day he is a liverpool player and i respect him for that
baggins09 - December 6th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
his career goal average is 1 in 10 by the way and alonso’s is 1 in 12 while gerrards is 1 in 4, so he’s no gerrard but then again he’s played 2-3 years as dm so not had the oppertunity to score ,so his average would probably be better if he’d been played in his natural role and gerrard does take all our penalties and free kicks so i bet going on goals scored from open play his average would be more like 1 in 6, so played in a more advanced role lucas could potentially close the gap on that average. but he needs to be given the freedom to play further forward
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
This is a quite frankly a pathetic article. Lucas may not be an awful player but by golly he is average at best. Average does not win you the league. World-class players win you the league, such as, and a hate to say it, Ronaldo. This has always been Liverpool’s problem every season, too many average players and not enough who can produce that moment of magic or at that crucial moment, hit the back of the net. Not the cross-bar, N’Gog!
Retryboy - December 6th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Ok then so he is supposed to be an attacking midfielder? How far down the list is he there then?? Gerrard, aquilani, benayoun not to mention if we played 2 strikers sure keane, nemeth or pacheco and torres would have worked a bit better! For such an attacking force he doesn’t half pass it sideways and backwards a lot. Alonso got the ball and knew where it was going and it was always forward and no matter what distance it was it got there in seconds. Lucas gets the ball then thinks about where it is going and its always snails pace, short and sideways. If he was some massive creative talent being missed we would have seen at least glimpses of that. Kermits other theory on him the only one he missed out is that gerrard bullies him because he doesn’t want lucas to be the new golden boy banging in goals from 30 yards and like i said before he says all this then before the games complains at lucas being in the team and after rants and raves that he has contributed nothing!!
Retryboy - December 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Oh and most of the glowing anons support are also kermit
Stillontheperch - December 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
I’m hoping the Gerrard comparisons were just to elicit a reponse.
As previous contributors have mentioned, most fan’s frustrations are because of who he’s keeping out of the team rather than a lack of respect for him.
He doesn’t pick the team so can’t be blamed for that.
That said he is shite though.
Stillontheperch - December 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I’m hoping the Gerrard comparisons were just to elicit a response.
As previous contributors have mentioned, most fan’s frustrations are because of who he’s keeping out of the team rather than a lack of respect for him.
He doesn’t pick the team so can’t be blamed for that.
That said he is shite though.
isaac hunt - December 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
to be fair to lucas he has had to be compared to alonso which is quite unfair.
he doesnt score, he doesnt tackle great, he doesnt set up goals, he doesnt save goals, i am not someone who will booo him but i think it is time that he leaves. he undoubtabely has quality but the premiership must be way too fast for him and much different than brazalian football.
Stillontheperch - December 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
“he doesnt score, he doesnt tackle great, he doesnt set up goals, he doesnt save goals, ” “he undoubtabely has quality ”
Quality what Isaac?
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
he is a great player i think i have always believed in him and i have never said a bad thing about him
WANKER!
isaac hunt - December 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
well he has captained brazil u21s and is playing for LIVERPOOL. he obviosly can pass/tackle/score goals but just not in the premiership!!
isaac hunt - December 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
like many players who are good in la liga or serie A but cannot produce it in the prem.
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Retryboy - December 6th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Don’t think tampax would be interested isaac think the thought of a 4 month bad period would put the girls off they bled this long they would be dead!
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Lucas is terrible – he gives the ball away too much, can’t pass, can’t tackle, passes backwards and sidewards all the time, How has this, at best average player managed to play most games this season? What does rafa see in him????? Is he good in training and constantly ar*e licking Rafa?
dibbler - December 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
I dont like slagging players but on this occasion i will make acceptions this lad is not quality he just exists on the pitch he is just there and even if he is an AM and not a DM does this mean he is not allowed to find a man in red when he passes the ball? “lucas because you are a few yards further back from your normal position fuck passing forward just either give the ball away in dangerous positions or give fouls away on the edge of the box” i can just hear rafa now its some kind of master plan, for the people who think he is quality you must be mancs because they are the only people who i have talked to who want him to stay. ask yourself this if the enigma aquilani does exist and he happens to be a player will you still be happy with lucas keeping him out of the side and if lucas is such quality how good does aquilani have to be?
As for people saying he is attack minded what about micheal essien,danny murphy,alonso,hutton,roy keane,viera and many more all attack minded who play or played the defensive roll too as well as attacking it is not science if you win the ball take a few steps forward and look up see who is in red!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anonymous - December 6th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
I cannot applaud this article enough. It disgusts me to hear so much unjust criticism aimed at the lad, but his reaction to it has impressed me no end. Instead of sulking, much like Babel would surely do, he’s got his head down and worked even harder. Imagine how much the guy would improve with a bit of vocal support from fans. Christ, even Djimi Traore had his fans (albeit few and far between), and he was shite!
YNWA
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 12:14 am
just watching the liverpool v blackburn game on sky and Lucas just gave the ball away, had loads of time in midfield,plenty of red players around him and he just kicked it upfield…….
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Great article!
Lucas has been the perfect example this season.. He has shown heart in trying to support the team….
Unlike some of our own supporters :s
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 1:01 am
Great article!
Lucas has been the perfect example this season.. He has shown heart in trying to support the team….
Unlike some of our own supporters :s
anyways…..
Unbeaten till the end of the season!!
dibbler - December 7th, 2009 at 1:28 am
LUCAS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RyanO - December 7th, 2009 at 1:41 am
I don’t think anyone really “hates” the lad, they just don’t believe in him the way Rafa does. I’m hoping anyone in our shirt does well, but I’m not going to let that blind me to some facts AFTER the match. Lucas is NOT Liverpool standard, unless he is going to come off the bench. This debate will soon end, we can hope, as Aquilani will be in the engine room with Mascherano before very long.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 1:42 am
rafa has ruined loads of players playin them out of position. e.g. babel
however i think he was trying to turn babel into a ronaldo…
Lucas, granted. is playing out of position, as is kuyt and gerrard really.
Gerrard – AM not HOLE
Kuyt- Bench please not RW not ST
Lucas- should really be playing RM in a diamond formation as stated before, or a central midfielder with room to attack…not opposite Mascherano… Lucas is being asked to basically copy Mascherano…you dont see Mascherano passing 30yds or so do you? No he just passes sideways….he is however alot better tackler than lucas…& Mascherano has had a shot pretty much every game this season, none of which have been remotely on target ( not counting the everton one cos it took a huge deflection and was going well wide otherwise)
IMO lucas would probably be better utilised on the right wing, ahead of kuyt.
Lucas has pace unlike kuyt……wouldnt hurt to try him there just for one game would it? I mean its not like wed be losing something huge if we dropped kuyt from the RW lol
Reds Lewis
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 2:00 am
I am Brazilian and I have to say that Lucas is very talented. Unfortunately, he went to Liverpool. He should have gone to Arsenal. I believe Wenger would be the right person to develop Lucas’ skills and give him confidence.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 2:31 am
ahahah lol arsenals youth system isnt all that. look at the team that faced man city. city have been on average form at best yet arsenal “youth” were hammered. and u can say youth but truth is most of them are reserves and should be in the first team if they were actually any good. how old is vela? he cant be classed as a young striker if 25 is peak age for a striker. most of them will be at clubs like blackburn, stoke and sevilla in a few years but i can only see maybe 2 of them being top club standard.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 3:23 am
okay this actually got printed
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 3:25 am
bad tining considering lucas didnt play esp well against blackburn he lacked drive and purpose in the middle, and i would have hauled him off, sunk gerrrad back iinto midfield and played yossi in the hole
still one or two glimpses of what lucas can do, but at this stage its not enough. squad player for now, still believe he has the potential to go far
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 3:31 am
Its unbelievable how people are trying to defend Lucas, saying he should be played as an attacking midfielder. He has no composure on the ball at all so how could he be effective in an attacking role? Look at the other top 4 teams defensive midfielders; Essien, Carrick, Diaby, Denilson all score more goals than Lucas. Even Agger, the injury prone centre back has scored more goals than him!!
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 3:50 am
thanks for the inuslts retry but i m not writing because aqualman is, i m writing because i need pieces printed somewhere for acceptance onto amasters for journalism course
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 3:55 am
and to be totally honest i have no problems with you not agreeing wiht what i have to say, but trying to put the boot into my writing style is a little low.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 3:57 am
and to suggest i am writing the glowing anons is just something else, seriously, gte a fucking grip
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 3:57 am
thats just fucking insulting
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 3:59 am
and you know as well as i do he is under orders from benitez to sit on the half way line for most of the game
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 4:02 am
actually you are kind of a cunt you know that, i never would have said that before today , but your responses on here are just that cunty
Retryboy - December 7th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Congratulations on managing to log in for those comments kermit… Problems i had with the ‘article’… 1)i have read every bit of it before on your comments on every topic relating to anything you turn it towards your one man campaign towards lucas… 2)its in no way relevant to anything happening now all the stories and things happening at the club now you could write about you go on about our fans slating lucas and nobody is!… 3)thats once you have said if you were lucas you would spit on the liverbird and once on shankly gates you deserve shooting for both statements… 4)do you not notice that when people write an article it starts with some facts that the article is based on, something that is in the news a lot then the writer gives their opinion but tries to be objective and cover both sides of the arguement not some one sided rant with no evidence. If you wanted to do an article on the misuse of players you should have given us the stats from when he was used as an offensive player first instead you tell us to look them up ourselves! You’re writing the piece! Why do we want to look them up?… 5)the comparisons with one of our greatest ever players are ridiculous lucas did more by the time he was 19? Well he is 23 in january! Stevie g was our captain by then!!.. 6)i don’t support rafa on a lot of things but how can you possibly slate him on his treatment of lucas? He gets in the team week in week out and yet on the prediction threads for every game you will see that even Rafa’s fans wouldn’t pick lucas! Lucas has even said himself the support he has received from rafa when he was playing terribly he couldn’t understand… 7)you are insulting our fans who as was explained to you after months and months of seeing him picked and not justifying it still didn’t turn on him and a minority booed the inclusion of him and the fact he stayed on the pitch when we needed a goal and yossi went off not the player.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 5:50 am
i have no problems with your opinions retry but your attidtude is shite
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 5:56 am
i do but i also notice they usually come in the form of statistics which i have ittle interest in, we arent american we dont need to break down the game into goals for and assists
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 5:59 am
and by the way none of those anonymous comments were me, i was asleep when the article cam out and woke at 2 am. to find it here
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 5:59 am
you are just gonna love my john terry article
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 6:05 am
and point being yes he is 23 and stevie was captan of our side by then but stevie has always had his family around him has always had te support of beign a local lad didnt have to switch continents didnt have to learn a new language, didnt have to fit into a new society.
and yes if i was lucas considering the abuse he has received from the most knwledgeable fans on the planet, which they are not, no more so thna utd or chelsea fans or arsenal or wycombe wanderers, then yes i would feel totally entitled to spit on the gates of anffield.
the fact that he stayed on the pitch and yossi wnet off was hardly his decision and yes i am sure lucas has a media face the same as every other footballer celebrity and actor on the planet.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 6:10 am
and to suggest i would bother to come on here as anonymous to write things in spuuort of my own article makes me think you must think i am some kind of retard.
i find this totally insulting and the fact that you even suggest it means you dont know me very well.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 6:12 am
and not just to suggest it once but twice after i firstly told you it was insulting. make your comments have your opinions but dont go suggesting that i am pathetic enough to come in and post anonymously on my own article.
now havent been insulted enough i will politely tell you to fuck off
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 6:20 am
i do compain that he is the team yes because his confidence isnt there yet, in fact it has been shattered since he has been at anfield, its a wonder he doesnt have nightmares every time eh sees a football, what the point of the article is is that lucas does have the talent and the abilty , what he does not have is confidence , and what i am saying is he is a much better footballer than what we have so far seen but that does not mean i think he automatically deserves a place in the starting eleven every week , and i am much less confused than scooby do
constructive criticism is welcome character sleights and insuations are not
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 6:23 am
and by the way most journalistic pieces arent littered with statistics facts and figures at the front , that only seems to happen on this site.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 6:29 am
and as i have said numerous times before if it was up to me lucas would be on loan at bolton and xabi alonso would never have been sold
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 7:00 am
lucas is played out of position by rafa. if mascherano was played higher up the pitch he too would be a failure.lucas is a very good defensive/holding midfielder,but a very poor attacking midfielder,but so too is mascherano.alonso was talented enough to play both positions because of his range of passing.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 7:06 am
imagine asking makalele to play as an attacking mid in front of mascherano allahs boot
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 7:23 am
THIS is a carbon copy of the rubbish you read on the forums @ liverpoolfc.tv! RETRY is spot on again. Lucas maybe deserves to be kept as backup, but as for starting, well….the sooner he is on the bench, the sooner we will sart playing football again. Not this pathetic sub-standard shite we are dishing out under beneathus
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
NOW IF IT GOES IN MODERATION IF WOULD BE A HATRICK +1
HERE IN A NUTSHELL IS WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK
BY YOUR FRIEND ,WHOM YOU MAY CALL THE FREAK
RETRY BOY TAKEN HARD BY ONE AND MANY
BUT HE DOESN’T TAKES THE SHIT
AND BELIEVE ME HE CURSED YOUR GRANNY.
THE USUAL BLOGGERS SLOWED A BIT , BUT KERMIT ROSE TO OCCASION
SO EVERY WHERE U CAN SEE HIS UNWANTED INVASION
BUT AT LEAST HE KEEPS THE TEMPO UP , AND UP ALL THE TIME
‘AND UP ALL THE TIME’ IS ONLY TO MAKE IT ALL RHYME
SOMETHING BIG DID HAPPEN ,SOMETHING WHICH WE DID LOVE
AQUAMAN FLEW UP THE SKY MORE OR LESS LIKE A DOVE
FOR U HAVE SET STANDARDS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN
AND WE DON’T POSSES
SUCH KNOWLEDGE NOR AS MUCH BRAIN.
FOR YOUR ARTICLES ARE ANALYTIC AND GO DEEP DOWN THE CORE
BUT PAL IF YOU DONT CHANGE SOMETHINGS YOU MAY BECOME A BORE
KEEP IT SHORT ,CHOOSE SOMETHNG EXCITING AND DO KEEP THE LABELS
AND IF U WANNA GO LONG PLEASE REMOVE THE TABLES.
FOR ANALYSIS IS NOT THE FANS JOB AND ANALYSIS IS NOT WHAT WE
LOVE TO DO
LEAVE THE EXCESS ANALYSIS TO RAFA AND TO HIS UGLY CREW
BUT IF YOU ARE AN ACCOUNTANT THEN DUDE U ARE SCREWED.
DONOVAN RIED WAS COOL AND CALM LIKE HIS PAST WEEKS
IGNORING ALL THE ANON COMMENTS ,PROVING THEY ARE FREAKS.
ISSAC HUNT IS MAN FOR SURE
ONLY WRONG HE IS DOING IS BOO’ING RETRY MORE AND MORE
AND BACK TO THE PLOT FOR WE HAVE DRIFTED FAR OFF THE COAST
AND AGAINST BLACKBURN A STRIKER I MISSED THE MOST
AS FOR RAFA I THINK HE HAS ERRECTED A MENTAL WALL
AND DON’T U DARE LAUGH
FOR I SERIOULSLY THOUGHT OF REPLACING HIM WITH RAFAEL NADAL
AGGRESSION IS WHAT WE NEED AND AGRESSION IS THE NEED OF HOUR
FOR GOD’S SAKE RAFA TAKE
SOME RISK, AND ADD TO THE SQUAD A LITTLE MORE FIREPOWER.
FOR THAT IS WHAT THE NEED IS AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY
ELSE SOMETHING BIG MAY HAPPEN WHICH I DARE NOT TO SAY
SO BRING BACK NEMETH IN JAN AND PLAY BENAYON IN THE HOLE
FOR WHAT WOULD YOU DEFEND WITH YOUR 5 DEFENDERS
IF YOU CAN’T STRIKE A SINGLE GOAL
BY ANONYMOUS
YA I AM THE ONE WHO WROTE
he following article is just what the author thinks………………………….
and is not intended to hurt anyone…………….
RETRY BOY ,A BIT SHY GOES NEGATIVE JUST FOR FUN
IN BABEL ,NEMETH AND THE FUTURE
STARS HIS FAITH LIES
AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE.
TOO GENTLE ,TOO INNOCENT ,TOO EASY TO MOTIVATE
I AM CONFUSED WHETHER
HE IS A GENTLEMAN OR HIS BRAIN WORKS 10 SECONDS LATE
BUT NEVERTHELESS WE LIKE HIM FOR HIS DECENCY
SO HERE COMES OUR LOL BOY NONE OTHER THAN SAMLFC
KERMIT DAMMIT ,KERMIT DAMMIT
THIS IS HOW HIS BRAIN SWINGS
HE CRITICIZES A LOT
SEEMS A BOT
AND WRITES SHORT AND NASTY THINGS.
RYAN BABEL IS CRAZY
HE HATES BABEL BUT STILL
KEEPS HIS NAME ,SUGGESTS HE’S LAZY
YNWA , NOW DON’T GET ME STARTED ON HIM
WRITES THE POST BECOMES
ANONYMOUS AND PRAISES HIS OWN THING
THE CHOOSEN ONE WHO CHOOSE YOU ?
IF IT WAS GOD WHY DIDN’T HE FROZE YOU ?
FOR U INTERVENE AND MEAN A LOT
AND YOUR
FREAKISH AND STUPID TALKS SEEM TO ROT
Aquilani4goals
A LOT OF LOLS AS OUR SAMFC SAYS
WHAT IS THE 4 IN YOUR NAMEDO’NG ?
DUDE YOU DO HAVE STRANGE WAYS.
AQUAMAN AND ANFIELD FAITHFUL WANTS TO RAGE A WAR
WHILE FIRST ONE RAINS TONS OF WISDOM
SECOND ONE TAKES THE TOPIC TOO FAR.
AND NOW FOR THE BIG ONE HERE COMES DONOVAN RIED
HIS POSTS ARE WISDOM,
HIS POSTS ARE FUN,
HIS POSTS ARE NOBLE DEEDS,
BUT ALL HIS WISDOM PUT APART
A PSYCHIATRIST HE REALLY NEEDS.
WE ALL ARE DIFFERENT BUT YET
THERE IS SOMETHING WHICH BINDS US
SOMETHING WHICH REMINDS US
THAT WE ALL ARE LIVERPOOL FANS
AND WOULD BE SO THROUGOUT OUR LIFE
AND THE PROTOCOL IS SIMPLE
EVERYONE IS FREE TO SAY WHATEVER THEY LIKE
ABOVE MENTIONED NAMES ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITES AND AFTER A
HOURS OF THINKING THIS IS ALL THE SHORTCOMINGS I COULD FIND
IN THEM
MY APOLOGIES, DON’T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
BY …..ANONYMOUS
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 7:30 am
knock knock !
is there any one?
what do you do when your comment go in modertion .
and why do they do so.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 7:31 am
HERE IN A NUTSHELL IS WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK
BY YOUR FRIEND ,WHOM YOU MAY CALL THE FREAK
RETRY BOY TAKEN HARD BY ONE AND MANY
BUT HE DOESN’T TAKES THE SHIT
AND BELIEVE ME HE CURSED YOUR GRANNY.
THE USUAL BLOGGERS SLOWED A BIT , BUT KERMIT ROSE TO OCCASION
SO EVERY WHERE U CAN SEE HIS UNWANTED INVASION
BUT AT LEAST HE KEEPS THE TEMPO UP , AND UP ALL THE TIME
‘AND UP ALL THE TIME’ IS ONLY TO MAKE IT ALL RHYME
SOMETHING BIG DID HAPPEN ,SOMETHING WHICH WE DID LOVE
AQUAMAN FLEW UP THE SKY MORE OR LESS LIKE A DOVE
FOR U HAVE SET STANDARDS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN
AND WE DON’T POSSES
SUCH KNOWLEDGE NOR AS MUCH BRAIN.
FOR YOUR ARTICLES ARE ANALYTIC AND GO DEEP DOWN THE CORE
BUT PAL IF YOU DONT CHANGE SOMETHINGS YOU MAY BECOME A BORE
KEEP IT SHORT ,CHOOSE SOMETHNG EXCITING AND DO KEEP THE LABELS
AND IF U WANNA GO LONG PLEASE REMOVE THE TABLES.
FOR ANALYSIS IS NOT THE FANS JOB AND ANALYSIS IS NOT WHAT WE
LOVE TO DO
LEAVE THE EXCESS ANALYSIS TO RAFA AND TO HIS UGLY CREW
BUT IF YOU ARE AN ACCOUNTANT THEN DUDE U ARE SCREWED.
DONOVAN RIED WAS COOL AND CALM LIKE HIS PAST WEEKS
IGNORING ALL THE ANON COMMENTS ,PROVING THEY ARE FREAKS.
ISSAC HUNT IS MAN FOR SURE
ONLY WRONG HE IS DOING IS BOO’ING RETRY MORE AND MORE
AND BACK TO THE PLOT FOR WE HAVE DRIFTED FAR OFF THE COAST
AND AGAINST BLACKBURN A STRIKER I MISSED THE MOST
AS FOR RAFA I THINK HE HAS ERRECTED A MENTAL WALL
AND DON’T U DARE LAUGH
FOR I SERIOULSLY THOUGHT OF REPLACING HIM WITH RAFAEL NADAL
AGGRESSION IS WHAT WE NEED AND AGRESSION IS THE NEED OF HOUR
FOR GOD’S SAKE RAFA TAKE
SOME RISK, AND ADD TO THE SQUAD A LITTLE MORE FIREPOWER.
FOR THAT IS WHAT THE NEED IS AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY
ELSE SOMETHING BIG MAY HAPPEN WHICH I DARE NOT TO SAY
SO BRING BACK NEMETH IN JAN AND PLAY BENAYON IN THE HOLE
FOR WHAT WOULD YOU DEFEND WITH YOUR 5 DEFENDERS
IF YOU CAN’T STRIKE A SINGLE GOAL
BY ANONYMOUS
YA I AM THE ONE WHO WROTE
he following article is just what the author thinks………………………….
and is not intended to hurt anyone…………….
RETRY BOY ,A BIT SHY GOES NEGATIVE JUST FOR FUN
IN BABEL ,NEMETH AND THE FUTURE
STARS HIS FAITH LIES
AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE.
TOO GENTLE ,TOO INNOCENT ,TOO EASY TO MOTIVATE
I AM CONFUSED WHETHER
HE IS A GENTLEMAN OR HIS BRAIN WORKS 10 SECONDS LATE
BUT NEVERTHELESS WE LIKE HIM FOR HIS DECENCY
SO HERE COMES OUR LOL BOY NONE OTHER THAN SAMLFC
KERMIT DAMMIT ,KERMIT DAMMIT
THIS IS HOW HIS BRAIN SWINGS
HE CRITICIZES A LOT
SEEMS A BOT
AND WRITES SHORT AND NASTY THINGS.
RYAN BABEL IS CRAZY
HE HATES BABEL BUT STILL
KEEPS HIS NAME ,SUGGESTS HE’S LAZY
YNWA , NOW DON’T GET ME STARTED ON HIM
WRITES THE POST BECOMES
ANONYMOUS AND PRAISES HIS OWN THING
THE CHOOSEN ONE WHO CHOOSE YOU ?
IF IT WAS GOD WHY DIDN’T HE FROZE YOU ?
FOR U INTERVENE AND MEAN A LOT
AND YOUR
FREAKISH AND STUPID TALKS SEEM TO ROT
Aquilani4goals
A LOT OF LOLS AS OUR SAMFC SAYS
WHAT IS THE 4 IN YOUR NAMEDO’NG ?
DUDE YOU DO HAVE STRANGE WAYS.
AQUAMAN AND ANFIELD FAITHFUL WANTS TO RAGE A WAR
WHILE FIRST ONE RAINS TONS OF WISDOM
SECOND ONE TAKES THE TOPIC TOO FAR.
AND NOW FOR THE BIG ONE HERE COMES DONOVAN RIED
HIS POSTS ARE WISDOM,
HIS POSTS ARE FUN,
HIS POSTS ARE NOBLE DEEDS,
BUT ALL HIS WISDOM PUT APART
A PSYCHIATRIST HE REALLY NEEDS.
WE ALL ARE DIFFERENT BUT YET
THERE IS SOMETHING WHICH BINDS US
SOMETHING WHICH REMINDS US
THAT WE ALL ARE LIVERPOOL FANS
AND WOULD BE SO THROUGOUT OUR LIFE
AND THE PROTOCOL IS SIMPLE
EVERYONE IS FREE TO SAY WHATEVER THEY LIKE
ABOVE MENTIONED NAMES ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITES AND AFTER A
HOURS OF THINKING THIS IS ALL THE SHORTCOMINGS I COULD FIND
IN THEM
MY APOLOGIES, DON’T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Hartlfc here ,,, i used to hate lucas more than anything in life itself..exaggerating a bit. i think he has improved some what, but i just dont see any creativity when going forward. i think at the moment that is one of our struggling points, creativity through the midfield. macherano kuyt also to blame. i doubt he has been told by rafa to play a defensive role because to have two midfielders playing DM how the hell are we ment to score goals? i just dont think he has what it takes to be a good MF. people say hes still young and learning that doesnt seem to stop the youth of arsenal showing moments of utter brillance…;.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 7:57 am
can u see my post even though its in moderation…..?
do reply ……..
Retryboy - December 7th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Kermit the set of 3 anons in 3 minutes at 9.27, 9.28 and 9.30 only you post that fast and even though they are made to look like different people they are obviously the same as the first 2 have alot as one word like amasters in apparently the first of your posts this morning at 3.50 this is because when you post so fast you miss spaces and make typos constantly missing out letters of words again in the anons and your posts this morning the exact same spelling errors as well as in your article missing out letters, was right about mark g/james, caught jed doing it before and am pretty confident on this one too. By the way how old are you? Because i remember you telling ryano you had been watching football before he was born and now you are starting out on a career in journalism? Thought you needed good english grades for that? You haven’t even got a good basic level. Its funny looking back 4 months ago travis was telling you to “have a day off” bored to death of hearing about lucas non stop on every story. Everyone has their favourites but yours is obsession and you have managed to turn so many good debates into a praise lucas session even down to calling for us to bombard his facebook page with messages of support, was fed up with it before this article nobody hates lucas they just don’t have the raging hard on you have for him!
Retryboy - December 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Comment in moderation as well lol kermit mascherano manages to get shots in… Mostly go for throws but he gets shots in now lucas plays slightly further forward than him so why can’t he shoot then if he is some attacking superstar? Agger manages it from CB molby was a defensive midfielder. Lets face it steve mcmahon had more attacking flair and creativity than lucas has shown! When he has filled in for mascherano he has done well and with only one DCM gerrard and benayoun we managed 10 in 2 games shows you what creative players can do. All this poor mistreated lucas stuff he’s on 50k a week!! Give me £2.5m a year i will happily learn a new language, move continents and never mind boos you can throw stuff, spit and insult my mother she won’t care in her new mansion! Ffs when you think of what john barnes went through playing for england this is a joke.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Lucas can replace mascherano if anything happen to masch..
But he need to learn more from masch..
Retryboy - December 7th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Thefreak lol look forward to your next one! …kermit missed your last one don’t you see the contradiction that i was pointing out? You tell us that lucas can be better than gerrard(lol) then you say you want this future captain footballing genius to go on loan to bolton!!
Jed - December 7th, 2009 at 9:39 am
wow…all you funboys turning against each other cos times are a bit tough?? hahaha….i still cant believe how right i was about liverpools title ambitions this year….i went back and read some old posts…gotta love comments like “why is xabi leaving when we are so close to winning the title?” hahahaha, its cos xabi is a smart man and new when to jump a sinking ship!! oh, and to the subject at hand….lucas is shit….i agree with retryboy for once…
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Great article, I think Lucas has shown immense courage and not a little class considering the unfair press he has had from idiots like Lawro.
If some of the other Pool players palyed with his courage …….
He is only a young lad who with any of the other big teams would only get the odd run out and be given lots of leeway , Insua in similar situation…but popular lazy press consensus is that Pool have no good young players and this cannot be challenged.
I also see him as a future Captain.
Pool ’till I die
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 10:02 am
woooo now you start on the insults, if i tell you i didnt post anonymously m not once nor twice but three times now then i would expect you to believe me, obviously you feel i m so pathetic i need to comment on my own articles. my english is fine but i m not a secretary , i dont bother to correct typos as i assume people to be intelligent enough to infer meaning from it, now you hint at homeerotic tendencies. it gets better all the time, wonders what comes next.
all in all i can t be arsed and wont even start to comment on your footballing sugeestions or even consider them never mind feeling the need to defend myself in answering them, i know what i am talking about.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 10:05 am
thanks anon at 9 54, oh wait that was probably me to, actually i porb threw in some of the more insulting ones also just to give an even debate.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 10:08 am
and now seriously i m done with you , you re little sherlock holmes thinking cap has brought you to the wrong conclusions this time
Retryboy - December 7th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Lol from the guy who thinks we should sell reina, sell mascherano and replace him with lucas then tells us lucas isn’t a defensive midfielder, the guy who thinks torres link up play is garbage and he can’t play with a partner because he is too much of a glory boy. The one who thinks gerrard bullies lucas because he is threatened that he will be the new fan favourite if he lets him bang in the goals so stevie g intimidates him. From someone who thinks all this kermit, believe me i am happy to miss out on these pearls of wisdom lol will be a loss but sure i will cope!
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 10:55 am
like i said done with you
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 10:57 am
i have never advocated replacing masch with lucas
i said sell reina and replace him with lloris and masch with defour, and torres link up play is garbage and yes he does need to be the golden boy
but that is beside the point.
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am
it happened with spain with torres he had the hump the whole way through the euros because villa was getting all the goals
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am
the sun does not shine from mascherano s asshole
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 11:03 am
just what exactly is your gripe? you dont agree with the point of view fine, but there isnt any need to go getting personal about it is there , i mean really??
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 11:05 am
i would have had lucas on loan at bolton all last season to oughen him up get him regular games in a scenario where he wasn t be abused by his own fans , to help him regain his own confidence at a time when he wasnt actually needed at liverpool
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 11:05 am
if you cannot follow the simple logic of that then whats the point really
kermit - December 7th, 2009 at 11:07 am
do you actually see how many times torres loses the ball when it is played up to him>???
watch him closely , he gives it away a ridiculous number of times during a game
Retryboy - December 7th, 2009 at 11:37 am
What do you expect kermit when you talk about spitting on the shankly gates? You saw my reaction when you said the same thing about the liverbird before. You know you are going to get a reaction there or you should do. Plus you are laying the blame for lucas performances on the fans who generally have been brilliant with him, patient beyond belief, can only judge off what we see on the pitch though and even liverpool fans after 55 games and hardly any glimpses of anything special are still not losing patience with the player but with the fact that he is a first team regular not a squad player, everyone has appreciated that his performances have improved this year. So why the attack on the fans for a couple of boo boys a year ago? Any other club he would have had a lot worse turning in the displays he did week in week out. Told you my problems with the article and you are the only one that got personal my points were always on your article and your footballing views.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
jed u must be quite desperate
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
You can’t hate a player for not being good enough, only the manager for picking him, but then rafa had no choice
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Spot On!! – Lucas has been a proper scouser since joining us – no matter the stick people have thrown at him, he has got his head down and tried his best – not like babel and voronin who throw in the towel and hide. Lucas deserves more respect from the people who slate him after every mis placed pass or shot – OTHER PLAYERS DO IT TOO! – If more of our players showed this attitude we wouldn’t be where we are now!! Lucas, you are a Scouser – keep it up lad.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
You’d think the author would at least run a spell checker over his ramblings.
Peopel for god’s sake!!! That’s just in the first paragraph… I couldn’t be bothered reading the rest especially after he talks about LFC and midfield diamonds.
This guy can’t spell and obviously knows nothing about Liverpool or the formation we use.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Retryboy – December 6th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Don’t think tampax would be interested isaac think the thought of a 4 month bad period would put the girls off they bled this long they would be dead!
——
HAHAHAHAHA
isaac hunt
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I have never posted before – how do you all find the time to waste? Are you at work ? Lucas is not a bad player, not fantastic either. Shame he did not put away that header against City – he heads the ball quite well usually, and he has it in him to score from open play. How often you seen Mascherano head it ? Answer – never. Or Gerrard in a defensive capacity ? Answer – rarely.( Gerrard should arguably score more headers – his Istanbul goal was a truly great header).
A team is only as good as its weakest link. Rafa has had 5 years to find good wide players; it has not happened. Kuyt is one of the worst players to appear for LFC. First touch poor, second touch a tackle because of the first touch.It verges on the embarrassing at times – like Djimi Traore. Pace ? Nope. Left foot? Nope. It is said in his defence he works hard. Increasingly, he lets players go past him. When he eventually makes up his mind to go back, it looks like he is busting a gut to get there. Only because he was slow going in the first place. All Premiership players work hard on the pitch ( Berbatov?) . If you want someone on the grounds he runs a lot, why not Alan Wiley? I am sure Kuyt is a nice bloke. So am I. Lucas is far from being the worst player at Anfield – Voronincompoop, Kuyt, Plessis, Degen- there’s lots of options. And there are players who are not quite good enough – Babel, Riera who has faded after a promising start; Insua is good on the ball but may lack pace and power in the long run, El Zhar, et al. As for the younger lads, maybe some need to be given a chance – Nemeth might also be a bit slow, Pacheco must dread having to play alongside Kuyt – if he passes it to Kuyt, he won’t see it again for a week. Pacheco’s size is obviously an issue but he can play a bit. It remains to be seen if Aquilani leaves no room for Kuyt. I am not holding my breath – the manager seems to like Kuyt just a bit. By the way, Benitez is in danger of having 3 genuinely world-class players in his side – Gerrard, Torres, Reina- and some other very good players such as Johnson, Carragher, Mascherano, Agger – and completely failing to turn them into a team. There you are, I have said my bit, I am sure I have forgotten stuff, but I won’t be posting again. Back to ebay.
jimmyk - December 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
i personally think lucas is a great player. he is not an attacking midfielder, he a holding midfielder who likes to get forward and when we talk about depth in our squad, between him and masch we have 2 very strong players in that role who can rotate when aquilani finally cements his place in the team.
THE CHOSEN ONE - December 7th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Retryboy
God take it easy on kermit!! must admit i laughed my head of lol
baggins09
Totally diagree with you about lucas. Alonso is less mobile and plays even deeper than Lucas. What Alonso has is good long passes but how many times do you ever see alonso in the box. This can easily be proved by analysis the the 2 players with where they cover on the field in 90 min. What lucas needs more and he is growing in it is to be able to make the midfield his own. He needs time afterall I thought fletcher for utd would never be a first team regular when he was young. Oh and he has been known to run with the ball.
In my opinion Gerrard should of been playing that role with kuyt and torress up front benny on the right and riera on the left and babel come on up front if we are losing. The problem that we have is it only gerrard that can really give torress that killer ball but he can still do it from deep. hes that good.
Anyway takes me 48 hrs to recover when we dont win
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
calm down calm down this is y i dont have a profile it stops idiots like retryboy giving stupid comments, i can give out an opinion without getting stupid abuse from someone who spends all day on this
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Im not his biggest fan because i fail to see what his purpose in the liverpool side is.
If he has come from Gremio to be an attack minded player then why isnt he given the freedom to do so, especially when Gerrard is out injured.
it just seems to me that Rafa gets the best talent in and then ruins them and their confidence. I have no doubt that Lucas will become a great player, but im not sure if under Rafa its gonna happen.
I am a liverpool fan and love them to bits, but I do worry about our coaches mentality to the players sometimes.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Lucas will be a great player
“the mettle that captains of great teams are made of, men who wont lie down in the face of adversity, that wont walk away when the going gets tough but stay and fight”
This is what we need at the club not just now but allways lay of the lad he is getting better and will come good
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
To Anonymous @ 1PM – Alan Wiley did not score 15 goals last season, nor 5 this. Kuyt has quality, it may not be technical or artful and many such as yourself seem to take isssue with him, but he will pop up when needed because of his WORK RATE which you are so eager to discount. Many a team wish they had a player with the heart and desire of Kuyt.
RyanO - December 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
To Anonymous @ 1PM – Alan Wiley did not score 15 goals last season, nor 5 this. Kuyt has quality, it may not be technical or artful and many such as yourself seem to take isssue with him, but he will pop up when needed because of his WORK RATE which you are so eager to discount. Many a team wish they had a player with the heart and desire of Kuyt.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
drop kuyt he does nothing for the team he loses the ball to much,cant cross,cant pass,poor first touch.
Even i have to admit Lucas is getting better every week ,he is in the brazil sqaud so he cant be that bad,Rafa cant get the best out of his players and is constantly playing them out of position and is to stuborn to listen to anyone.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Agreed – Rafa is well of the boil check this http://is.gd/5eVn3 he is a shadow set against Shankly and Paisley
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
go lucas!
isaac hunt - December 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
i now this article is about lucas but i must say i just dont agree with anyone who says that kuyt should be in the team because he works hard. i would rather give babel a chance as even though he is very inconsistant you do get that moment of brilliance that kuyt never seems to come up with. how man teams have a right back who attacks better than their right midfielder? i know kuyt is not a winger but that is the position that he is in. donavan and others say that he is a poacher and i would agree that that is his best position but if he played there i just dont think we would progress as a team. i totally agree that he cant play up front on his own but i just dont think he would be able to play with torres. i think it is time for rafa to get rid of the following players in january:
voronin,kyrgiakos(what was rafa thinking),degen,dossena.
he must get rid of at least 2 of these by either selling them or letting them go out on loan.
in the summer i think it is imperitive that we have a major clearout of the fringe players and ones who just arent good enough.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
please tell me this article is a joke . lucas at best is very very average . and to think we had alonso in the middle ov the park last season. lucas is typical ov liverpoool under rafa. an average buy who would do well at lets say bolton. no disrespect to bolton.hes so one dimensinol its untrue . nothing like a typical brazilian. to be honest hes had a couple of decent games. and people are changing there mind about him.im sorry to put another dampner on things . but is he true lfc quality i think not. and to think we could ov had barry 4 12 million . but rafa thought he wasent worth that. but he also rated him higher than alonso enuff to try and sell xavi behind his back. so what did he value alonso at . at that time. rafa has bought all his troubles on for himself and for the club. lucas is just another example of this very clear fact. please lads write from the head not the heart. spota lfc4eva YNWA
Retryboy - December 7th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Bang on again spota and actually agree with everything in isaacs post at 6.36 everyone knows my opinion on the right partner for torres and thats nemeth. Its having both kuyt and lucas in the team that ruins the balance too many workhorses coupled with 2 defensive mids. Babel on the right could save us splashing out and get us a £30m player instead of letting him go for a third of his worth. Last time he got 15 minutes there was the best bit of wing play we have seen on the right for years inexcusable he hasn’t been played there again.
...samlfc.... - December 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
anonymous – December 7th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Love it!! and my brain is 5 seconds late thank you! lol
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Who let this buffoon post an article? This site actually had some credibility. “…even the remaining doubters have been quietly impressed with his levels of performance this season “- no we bloody haven’t. Lucas has just been less shit than last season, but he’s still awful for the following reasons.
1. He can’t pass forward- Next time you watch a game, keep an eye on how none of his forward passes reach their target (when he attempts them)
2. He has no creativity- Watch him when he actually has time and space on the ball. Sideways passes or he loses the ball. He stifles the momentum of the game. Gerrard, Alonso, Benayoun with the same space make things happen and I haven’t seen him do anything remotely attacking or creative when he has the freedom.
3. He gives aways too many free kicks- this gives the opposition a chance to swing in a ball at our zonal marking system. Surprise surprise, we have conceded more goals from set pieces than any other big team.
As for his heading ability I remember him missing free headers in the CL and against Man City. It’s almost like playing every game with 10 players.
So to all of you Lucas supporters, my question is this- have we become so detached from a league-winning mentality that we’re willing to accept such low standards? Would Lucas get into the first team at Man Utd, Chelsea or Arsenal? How about even Man City, Spurs or Aston Villa? If you ask yourself honestly, I think you know the answer…
THE CHOSEN ONE - December 7th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
anonymous – December 7th, 2009 at 7:31 am REPLY
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For your cowardly act did make me laugh
its was so funny and yet my god so daft.
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Most say i Chat with alot of sense.
for word chosen comes from deep within
Dont curse me boy for thats a sin.
respect your lords and dont talk crap
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anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
The only thing brazilian about lucas is the way he shaves his pussy.
although i do agree its not his fauly hes crap, im sure hes really a nice bloke.
and yes he has improved this season, not hard to do considering how bad he was.
much better players havent had anywhere near the time on the pitch to show their talents.
rafa proving how pig stubborn he is at the expence of the team.
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
lucas is not good enough. he isnt hated by the liverpool fans either. u cant blame rafa he has no money 2 spend so he has to buy average players if nit sell the players who are not good enough. maybe try some of the youth wont hurt at the moment we need a miracle 2 get champo league spot also why cant we be like man utd or arsenal and play the kids in the carling cup who would that hurt now seriously how does kuyt come into this drop him no way he has proven he will score that vital goal when needed so will benayoun. we are playin alot of injured players at the moment
anonymous - December 7th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
u people are too caught up in this
lucas is what he is
kermit thinks what he thinks
GET OVER YOURSELVES U LOSERS
anonymous - December 8th, 2009 at 11:08 am
retryboy
you know that i dont think that most of the youth players will be good enough. but i will admit that i was wrong before. i said that nemeth and others shouldnt be played and that they were not good enough but honestly why shouldnt he have been given a chance like lucas has been. i still dont think he will be good enough for liverpool but he has showed more quality by scoring goals than lucas has. they are different players and play in different positions but where is the logic in continously playing someone who has no effect on a match??. it is the same as ngog. i know that he isnt going to be a top quality player now. he may have potential but he like lucas does basic things wrong. we havent yet seen nemeth play in a proper match so we cant really make any judgements on him. but now we are out of the title race benitez should not consistantly play lucas and ngog and should recall nemeth and give him a proper chance.
anonymous - December 8th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Just read an article on Goal.com where Aquilani’s father (and Roma medic) is saying that he has been fit for a month and doesnt understand why Benitez doesnt play him. I think I know why though.
Benitez has such a defensive mindset that he’s actually scared to take off a defensive midfielder from the start of a game. In effect, Lucas is keeping Aquilani out of the side.
I was always a staunch Rafa supporter and squared the blame on the owners. Now even Christopher Samba comes out and says we are easier to defend against and that Blackburn are disappointed not to have won. Well, what do u expect with Dirk Kuyt as lone striker, Gerrard with his back to goal and Lucas a non-entity in midfield? Babel has some spark about him but never gets played.
I’m afraid its not just down to the money anymore, but its the team selection.
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kermit - December 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
i read that article this morning also anon
anonymous - December 9th, 2009 at 4:07 am
in lucas we trust !! more than torres i trust him..
he DESERVE !!!!!
anonymous - December 11th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
I’ve gotta agree with kermit. Lucas is a class player, being played out of position and yet adapting his game and getting better by the day. If Rafa can nuture this boy properly, you may have someone who can fill Steven Gerrards shoes when he leaves. Trust this kid and your lot will go far.