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There are rumours abound that Manchester City’s new boss Roberto Mancini will be given an obscene amount of cash and that he will be looking to capture two of our top performers. Liverpool pair Fernando Torres and Javier Mascherano are said to be the subject of a proposed £95 raid that will surely be repelled by the Anfield outfit.
After sacking Mark Hughes, who had lost just two games this season, the Eastland clubs owners are said to be ready to give the Italian replacement a large sum of money, an amount in the region of £200m has been mentioned. Also in the pipeline for a bid from Manchester City are players who range from the hopeful to the very unlikely to the plausible.
It seems highly unlikely that Fernando Torres would leave the club whereas Javier Mascherano, who appears unsettled at Liverpool, is perhaps a possibility. Other players mentioned as potential targets as Franck Ribery, Sergio Aguero, Yaya Toure, Thierry Henry, Angel Di Maria and Matthew Upson.
Rafa Benitez will not even consider moves for El Nino and even the embattled American owners wouldn’t be stupid enough to consider accepting any such bids, or are they? Either way it seems odd that Manchester City would try to buy yet more strikers as it appears scoring goals is not a problem, 33 in 17 Premier League games this season, and adding some solidity to the backline seems imperative.
Any player targeted by Mancini will have to think long and hard and balance any financial reward with playing ambition and if they feel that they can see Manchester City succeeding that perhaps a move to the club would be tempting but they do seem to be a little way from being top four material.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Spot on, there is no way Hicks or Gillett would allow Torres to be sold, I can see Mascherano leaving though, but only to Barca
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Let Mascherano leave, he seems to have lost his desire to play for us anyway
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
£95 bid eh lol they can have itandje for that!
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Haha Retryboy Itandje is worth £120 million minimum lol
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
throw that retard dirk kuyt in for good measure too.
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Fact is the sheikh has hired the wrong man if he wants galactico’s. 7 managers in 6 years before him at inter did that and achieved nothing. He bought the players that fit the jigsaw not because of their name and dominated the domestic scene becoming the most successful manager in the last 30 years there. Torres is about as commited as they come, mascherano we don’t know 100% if he is we should keep him. If he wants away it is the lure of Barcelona not the lure of manchester this story is a total joke media fabrication based on nothing.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I also heard we were going to buy liverpool and burn it down.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
The only way it would suceed is to get rid of Rafa for free, and give 75mill to the new manager
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 1:11 pm
just dont give Benitez anymore cash to waste. the next cash injection could be our last so it needs to be spent wisely. Benitez will just buy 3 right backs for 80 million and either play them on the left wing or just leave them on the bench. Sack the Fat Spanish Waiter. enough is enough YNWA
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Spanish Waiter
ROFL
I too have had my gut full of Rafa’s signings. Enough is enough. Give Mark Hughes the Liverpool job and maybe we’ll see some home grown talent shine through….
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jimmyk - December 21st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
well we now have 4 games without masch….time to test drive our midfield ‘life after masch’….personally i think it will be a blessing in disguise as i may force us NOT to play 2 defensive midfielders (and aquilani may actually get more game time)
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 2:18 pm
jimmyk,
I agree, I think masch being out will be a blessing in disguise, Lucas is up to tackling its when he’s asked to make a forward pass he struggles & Aquilani should hopefully get a run of games and we’ll finally get to see why we spent £20mil
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
No way there going
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Aquilani is another Robbie Keane waiting to happen Benitez bought him didnt like him and blamed it on Rick Parry for buying him. Its time Benitez headed back to Spain, look at the players he has sold Bellamy Crouch Keane, Alonso even Cisse and Baros are better than the stikeforce we have now except for Torres who is world class. Its not only good strikers he has sold, Steve Finnan, Arbeloa good steady defenders not like suicidal Glen Johnson who has caused us 2 games in the space of a week. Its a shambles our first 11 is a joke never mind strength in depth we had a fully fit squad on saturday and were given the run around by players who are not even being paid!!!!!!
Get Martin O neill in there now. It may cost us 20 million to get rid of Rafa but it will cost us hundreds of millinos if we keep him.
In Rafa we dont trust……..
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
with Rafa we rust
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
mark hughes would be a good replacement for rafa, and would be able to get use some home grown players. we are rubbish at the back to hughes should sell the greek and skrtel and maybe buy cahill, shawcross or upson and give kelly or ayala the fourth spot.
should also buy bentley as he got the ebst out of him at blackburn and would be able to do it at liverpool.
we realy need to sort out the left back problem, insua abit to inexperienced and aurelio to injury prone, i would realy want to see koncheskey come in as his deal ends at the end of the season and wouldnt cost that much.
for centremid i would like barry to come in as he would get the forward passing going unlike lucas, but i doubt city will sell him, so a player like huddlestone,noble or parker would be a good buy.
for upfront i want to see carlton cole and pandev.
and for our left mid problem i realy dont know who we should go for
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I am worried that if enough money is put on the table the Yanks will accept the bid and Torres and Mash will be gone. If that happens a lot of others will follow.
On another note I also think that players will ask for transfer unless Rafa is sacked, there seem to be no faith in him anymore (and I agree with them).
Glen Johnsson is a joke as a RB he should play RM instead.
Kuyt, no comments he needs 10 chanses to score 1 goal
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
To anonymous at 2.32pm…ngog’s strike rate per game this season beats cisse, baros bellamy and keane at their best for us.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I would rather have Roy Evan’s back at the minute rather than Rafa at the minute
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Liverpool are in meltdown
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I hate the way everyone writting articles proclaims Torres and even stevie g are going to leave liverpool. The fact is they don’t want to leave because unlike most players they are loyal and definately legends in their own right!
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pm
aquilani seems to be a flop. we cud of got van der vart or maybe silva for 20 mil. and the players are playing SH*T!! lucas and insua r gettin good players but ther still fuckin young and we need top players in a team lyk ours. rafa is crap in the market. I WANT JAMIE CARRAGHER AS PLAYER/COACH. he is the perfect solution for us. jamie wont let us down..
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
We should sell lucas not mascherano don’t care how much he has improved he is still useless. We just accept that rafa won’t hopefully it won’t be his decision soon
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I agree that there are plenty of players benitez cud of bought instead of spending 20 mill on 1 player but the fact is if benitez gets sacked who on earth wud wanna manage us?? Maybe carra coz this season shows to me maybe he is cummin to an end unfortunately but he may need experience first
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Rafa, give aquilani more games. El zhar should be out (sell him).
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Bollocks
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
liverpool have nothing to loose now, might as well rafa replace all 11 players with the team from reserve and make an experiment hohoho…
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Give Aquilani more game. Rafa… you should sell El Zhar. More creativity in midfield pls.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
i love rafa but if we were to replace him there would be none other than martin o neill good enough to take over the guy is a genius and he has passion in the game celebrating on scored goals and disappointment on goals concided thats football
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
no top 4 finish torres will go maybe even gerrard thats why the spanish waiter should go now give king kenny the job
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 4:26 pm
in rafa we trust to take us down relegation form RAFA OUT
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
if liverpool sell torres you’ll be lucky if u finish this campign above relegation zone =) rafa’s an idiot…he spends millions on players and then puts them on the bench=) his only good signings were xabi, maschreano & torres..and that was it…. he brought spaniars for his coaching staff…so when he’ll be gone, they will leave too and liverpool will have to start form scratch =) his buys are aweful… and hes a hypocrite…if a player he buys doesnt provide the goods in the first 5 matches he sells him…but he wants 50 seasons to prove he’s a good manager;D retard…if there werent for torres and gerrard you’d be playing with newcastle in championship..& i be we’d kick your ass;D anyway..if u dont get a manager who knows what he’s doing on & off the picth.,..liverpool will need 5 years (least) to get back where u once were…
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Jed - December 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
torres wont go to city he is a chelsea fan…i know this cos i read a story about it on some website by a guy who knows a guy who heard it down the pub
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
lol this a joke it will never happen makes me laught that even a unconsiderable idea has been poster the only place masch going is to barca and torres will not leave we need to buy K.Honda from v v v venlo as a DEF MID also we need to get rid of kuyt and play bennyaoun in RM and buy Elia for a LM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Juan Vargas for a LB and swap babel for Pavelchenko Lust bringing LIVERPOOL bk into the 4th/3rd place.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
“Let Mascherano leave, he seems to have lost his desire to play for us anyway”
You haven’t watched any recent games obviously – he’s been the most committed player out of the lot over the last few weeks. You’ve read a story about him supposedly wanting to go to Barca and have come to the conclusion that the recent poor form is down to him.
Theres actually one player in particular who’s been awful recently, but won’t get criticised by anyone, especially Benitez, and thats Gerrard. He is a shadow of the player we saw last season. Even the return of Torres hasn’t particularly lifted him. I was at the Wigan game and he was floating around, offering nothing. We aren’t the one man team of old, but we currently playing with ten men.
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Torres would never ever go to another club in England again as he is the type of person who wouldn’t. if he ever wanted to elave then Barcelona would be his destination. but doubt he’ll leave anytime soon
Macherano would go to Barcelona if he went
i hope neither of them would go and i very much doubt Torres ill go.
Gerrard will never leave Liverpool.
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Jed - December 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
gerrard has ambitions, if he cant see them being fulfilled then there is no reason why he might not leave….if liverpool fail to finsih top four, i could just see the other english lads from other clubs being in his ear at the world cup
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pm
i hate to say this but i think gerrard should be dropped to the bench he’s been awful most of this season and bring back nameth doubt this will happen cos i think he was part of the deal with greek poney tailed twat.
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Fair point Jed but if you spent your whole career in your club then i very much doubt someone would leave whatever happens. i’m just wondering but when England play in the world cup, Jed will you like Gerrard or Johnson or any Liveprool player infact who is playing for england during the world cup?
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Lfc globe says gerrard, mascherano and aurelio have all turned on rafa. Gerrard had a bust up with him in training and they aren’t talking. After watching his ridiculous decisions ruin the club he obviously wants him out. Fans have woken up to it. Just need the owners to now.
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Now that Gerrard has turned against him so will most of the fans…..hopefully so actually Rafas sacking could be closer than first though
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
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Retryboy – Usually agree with you on most of what you say on here but can’t on this one “We should sell lucas not mascherano don’t care how much he has improved he is still useless”. I too wanted Lucas to be sold in the summer, but am now glad he wasn’t. He has taken a lot of stick since his arrival, but not shy’d away instead putting himself forward. It would have been easy for him to read all the negative press over the last year or so and decide to try and get a move back to Brazil but instead he’s got on with things putting himself forward to help fill the void that Alonso left, that in itself showing that despite a poor start he still backs himself to show what he can do and reach his potential.
You don’t achieve the accolades he achieved in Brazil (captaining all the Brazillian youth squads up to U20’s, winning the Campeonato Brasileiro Série B with Gremio in 2003, winning the Campeonato Gaúcho in 2006 & 2007, and also becoming the youngest ever player to win the Bola de Ouro (Brazilian Footballer of the year) and suddenly become a crap player wheather your a young player under the guidance of Benitez or not.To his credit he has been one of the success storys for liverpool this season along with Ngog. Selling him now would be a waste.
As for Mascherano he has been playing well in recent weeks but I still doubt that he want’s to stay if only for family reasons. Do you really believe if Barca come in with a concrete offer in the summer he will turn round and say no thanks I’m staying put? If we don’t get investment from somewhere for the team we need to raise it from within. Yes we have a lot of players we could sell but who wants players like Vorinin and Itanje? and if they do they certaintly arn’t gonna pay much for them. We need several quality players to come in and sacrificing Masch to fund it would make sense.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
all i want for christmas is rafa to go take his spainish idiots with him
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
ngog liverpool class my arse
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jimmyk - December 21st, 2009 at 7:01 pm
do you all actually think we would sell torres in a million years???
have a think exactly how much he is worth to us on the pitch and from a board perspective how much he is worth a COMMERCIALLY. he fills seat and sells shirts, attracts sponsors and is an absolute asset. The yanks aren’t that broke, we only need to sell to buy, not sell to survive so stop panicking. if we dont make the top four then we will be around 40m out of pocket…masch to barca for 30-40m – done.
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Anon you saw in the arsenal game lucas looked good first half because mascherano was protecting the back four. In the 2nd half we had wave after wave of attack and you didn’t see him put in a tackle of note. He isn’t good enough to take over from mascherano. Still offers next to nothing going forward and sorry but i see him and kuyt as symbols of Rafa’s favouritism. His constant inclusion towards the end of last season over creative players despite him being awful cost us the title and now he has a good game every 3 and gets praise from all angles. I really don’t care what he did in brazil. He wouldn’t get near the villa or Tottenham teams. The arsenal, chelsea, united or city squads. Spearing has more potential in the CDM role. Lucas is 23 next month he can’t be considered a young player any more. Yes he has improved massively but it would be hard not to and he will never be first team quality in my opinion. He does everything averagely, he doesn’t excel at one bit of the game.
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isaac hunt - December 21st, 2009 at 7:04 pm
anonymous – December 21st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
all i want for christmas is rafa to go take his spainish idiots with him
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who? torres?
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the author is just trying to stir as he is a united fan.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Max_kopite
loads of bullshit really would you think that torres would leave liverpool for man city??lol
i can’t see masch joining city either he would go to barca its inevitable
jed u need to open ur eyes torres has snubbed chelsea twice i think. How can a player who supports a given club will reject its £40 m offer
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 7:09 pm
The only spanish person we don’t want in our team is Rafa
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Dunno sam there’s about 10 backroom staff that shouldn’t let the door hit them on the asses on the way out too!
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Jed - December 21st, 2009 at 7:22 pm
sam – i am 25 and have played 3 years of football in my life…i played 19 years in another code at a fairly high level…most of these years were spent coming up through the grades with the one club, until we decided to part ways and i went to another club….it was the best thing that ever happened to me…it was a breath of fresh air and reignited my love of the game…so yes, i think it is possible that gerrard could leave
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Jed - December 21st, 2009 at 7:25 pm
btw the way i dont really have a problem with any liverpool player except mascherano….so gerrard and johnson are fine with me….i just got sick of some liverpool fans and their one eyed views on here….i wont lie, i have been an antogonist at times…. my screen name used to be chelsea > liverpool, which probably started the fued….most of the hate started in the summer when i said liverpool couldnt win the title and would miss europe and gave my reasons for the views
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 7:51 pm
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Retryboy – Of course Lucas isn’t as good as Mascherano yet and might well never be, but neither are they a like for like player. Masch is a DM where as Lucas is more a CM. As of about a week ago according to stats Lucas was third best tackler in EPL and fifth best passing rate. Now im not convinced of his tackling ability and people will say if you pass sideways your bound to have a better rate than if passing forwards but he is deffinitly showing more confidence in his displays and started to try more positive passing. Yes I too feel he cost us points last season but I also feel that Benitez has to shoulder a lot of the blame there for rushing him in to the team too soon and keeping him there when it was obvious he was struggling. He needed to come on in games when we were winning so that he wouldn’t be under so much pressure rather throwing him straight in to sink or swim. Same with rafa resting players, why have players like torres on the bench to bring on after 60mins to try and salvage a draw or force the win when starting with him we would probably roll over most of the lesser teams and then be able to rest him by half time.
As for Kuyt I have been a big critic of him over the years too and agree with the favouritism line. I felt last year we should have sold him, that his purple patch would’nt last, that he simply isn’t good enough (slow, no first touch, poor shooting technique…) but that said I do like Kuyt he’s got the right mental attitude and will work all day for the team. But sentiment will get us nowhere.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Mark Hughes as new Liverpool manager?
he may well improve in time to become a great manager, but he’s just proven he isn’t ready to take on a big club.
Rafa was a hero last season, looks like he’s lost it this season, do you believe in him anymore? If not, who do you believe in? If you do, how long do you give him? Obvious to me this season is time to rebuild.
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Never knew you were a player Jed! and well for Liverpools sake i hope we hold on to Gerrard for as long as he is healthy. yes everyone did feud alot during the summer and things isn’t exactly perfect now but Liverpool and Chelsea fans have one thing in common which is their hatred of Man utd. Jed like most teams and you have to admit chelsea included do have supporters which are an embarassment to the club but every team has a supporter who is respected for their knowledge of their club and their respect for others……..surely Liverpool must have one supporter on this site who is like that Jed.
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Never knew you were a player Jed! and well for Liverpools sake i hope we hold on to Gerrard for as long as he is healthy. yes everyone did feud alot during the summer and things isn’t exactly perfect now but Liverpool and Chelsea fans have one thing in common which is their hatred of Man utd. like most teams and you have to admit chelsea included do have supporters which are an embarassment to the club but every team has a supporter who is respected for their knowledge of their club and their respect for others……..surely Liverpool must have one supporter on this site who is like that Jed.
and retry – yes thats a fair point actually some backroom staff must go aswell.
I wouldn’t mind mark Hughes he isn’t actually that bad but i have some doubts on him though but i can’t put my finger on what the doubts are.
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
It looks like i’m back into Moderation lol fantastic! *rolls eyes*
why is it always my posts which get moderated.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Max_kopite
martin o’neill is the perfect man for us. I was pinnin my hopes on mancini joining but. .. Things don’t always go ur way do they?
on o’neill i think he would be really great here he is a terrific man manager always gets the best out of his players. You look at his previous stints celtic leicster city he took them well above their expected levels. Even with villa on paper their squad would never get into top 4 but on the field its a differnt story.
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Danski_LFC9 - December 21st, 2009 at 8:42 pm
What the fuck is everyone going on about! Mark Hughes to replace Rafa!!! I agree he’s got to go but under no circumstances to I want Mark Hughes as MANAGER OF LIVERPOOL FC – THE GREATEST CLUB IN THE WORLD!!! Why do you think City have got rid of him… because he’s not a top 4 manager and hasnt a clue how to manage in Europe!!! HAVE THINGS REALLY GOT THAT BAD THAT WERE CONSIDERING CITIES REJECT!!! if we are to compete with Man U, Chelski and Arsenal then we need a manager of the same calibre of Fergie, Wenger and ancelotti, maybe even better, someone like Hiddink, Mourinho, Rijkard or Marcelo Lippi, i’d even take van basten over hughes! the only english manager I think could cut the liverpool job is Harry Redknapp!… Next thing i’m gonna see is people wanting Martin O’Neill, Fat Sam Alardyce or even Mick McCarthy to take over.
As for a raid on torres and Masch – did we really expect anything different!!! were gonna receive offers for him every year. As for Masch I really think we should cash, there are players cheaper of similar quality that could be bought as a replacement, Diarra, Toure, really like Lorik Cana or drop gerrard back and invest in another world class striker!!! Could get Aguero for similar cash!!! providing we but a top class player I don’t think there will be much love lost!!!
YOU’LL NEVER WALK ALONE – just remember we are the KOP when we are winning we scream and chant….. And when were losing we scream and chant even louder
Remember Istanbul???? it was the 12 man that won that game!!! and it will be the 12 man that gets us back on track!!!
IN LIVERPOOL WE TRUST!!!!!!
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Scouse Magic - December 21st, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I must admit i have a fiar bit of patience, but i have now run out, Rafa has got to go.
We were awful against Portsmouth, there just wasn’t any desire, when Masch got sent off, i thought we have to chase this game and Rafa, just went defensive, when we needed a goal.
As for Torres, 1st of all he is a Liverpool Fan, why do you think he wore the LFC emblem under his captains armband when he captained A.Madrid????? and no he won’t leave, unless he’s pushed. Masch, i don’t think will leave either, he has been one of the very few who has been committed to the cause of the last few weeks especially. As for a replacement i would go for Guus Hiddink, he does wonders with Average squads / teams down on their luck, plus his contract with Russia expires in January.
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 9:11 pm
its been what and hour and a half and my post is still moderated!! i’m seriously giving up with this site
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 9:12 pm
A comment which is 2 lines long is being moderated!! WHY!?
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RyanO - December 21st, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Oh Fuck Off. Fernando Torres is LIVERPOOL’S NUMBER NINE. He ain’t going anywhere. As for the other, fuck off with him too, he don’t want to be here, collect the fee and move on from him.
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Aquaman - December 21st, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Can’t see either of these happening. Torres only left Atletico because it was Liverpool who came for him. Can;t see him playing anywhere else. If he was willing to sit in mid-table with Atletico, then he may be willing to sit mid-table here (hope it doesn’t go that way. Worst case scenario).
Masch is only thinking of leaving because it was Barca. Messi was tugging at his ear during the qualifiers, but now that those are over he’s straightened out, and playing at his best again. Except for blind referees and their trigger happy red cards.
Jed: I’m stunned. I actually agree with one of your posts. But even more than that, you aren’t gloating! You’re actually being civil. Long may it last. Good point on Gerrard btw. I have a terrible feeling that if Rafa doesn’t leave, then he will. Wouldn’t be surprised if he teamed up with Xabi again…
God I hope that doesn’t happen!
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Aquaman i was wondering when you’ll turn up…….has moderation effected you by any chance? as its effecting me big time!
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Bring back roy evans till the summer he’s out of work and at least with evans the youth would get a chance cos don’t forget he bought players like fowler,mcmanaman,redknap,david james and owen i know he aint done owt since leaving liverpool he could be a good sort term solution.
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Aquaman - December 21st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
hehe. Actually it’s worse than that. My beloved third world country has been internetless for the whole day.
But yes, moderation has hit me pretty hard. Actually let me go see if my post on the previous article has shown up yet. last time I checked it was in moderation for 6 hours.
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Reds Lewis - December 21st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
nah i doubt it. 95 million for them both?
if ronaldo is worth 80 then so is torres?
the americans would never let torres leave cos he probably generates around 60-70 million a year alone in shirt sales.
and theyd then have to fork out for a new striker…not to mention the amount of times hes pledged his future to us…
Mascherano however on his own…i could see him going.
Xabi went and we all thought hed stay a first….the masch thing is the same.
I wouldnt be surprised if he stayed if benitez left though!
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Reds Lewis - December 21st, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Gerrard wont go to real.
no chance…however thinking about it
maybe the barca wanting masch thing is a smokescreen for them wanting gerrard…..he wants title winning adding to his trophy cabinet, and barca are a better bet for it than real atm.
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Aquaman - December 21st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Yup. Its there!
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Lets just hope rafa doesnt get any of that money….
God forbid he may just another torres or mash….
You gimps!
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Lets just hope rafa doesnt get any of that money….
God forbid he may just find another torres or mash….
You gimps!
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 10:50 pm
jedward shut your chavski face
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Anon 7.51 agree with all of that its just i feel there is always a better option. Masch/gerrard/benayoun would be 1st for me Masch/gerrard/aquilani then you have kuyt/nemeth/pacheco as 2nd strikers(i don’t think ngog could play with torres personally) but the other options i would have over lucas every time in an attacking sense and as you said he isn’t a DCM the money could be used elsewhere its also with him and kuyt the attacks happen in slow motion when you are playing counter attacking football as rafa sets out to do its never going to work when the ball moves that slowly thats the big difference with no alonso. Kuyt is so much better as a striker but he doesn’t stay up front he comes back too much whether again that is from rafa i expect it is as crouch doesn’t do it anywhere near as much at spurs.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 11:42 pm
95 cent for RAFA? not for our two stars.
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Donavan Ried - December 22nd, 2009 at 2:49 am
£60m for Torres to City…… Nah! But with the way we are playing and under Rafa’s management if Real came knock with £70m-£80M I think Torres as much as he hates Real Torres and the owners would find it hard to say no …..
I think if AC, Juventus,Inter Milan, or Barcelona came knock …..bye,bye Torres
Rafa, the career killer…. Just ask Babel
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rassell - December 22nd, 2009 at 3:33 am
95 cents com on mate we’d have pay people to take him of us.
Torres ain’t going anywhere and for macherano well if he don’t want to play for us then just take the money i say….plus sell lucas, kuyt, voranin, greek git,riera,insua, and bring in mata, nemeth, silva
As for gerrad leaving if we don’t get into top 4 well i don’t think the guy will leave us he is just too nice, but too nice for his own good and as a liverpool fan i can say with hands on my heart cos the guy has giving so much to us and alot of good memory i want to see him win the title with liverpool but if not with us then with arsnal or chelsea or city but i really want him to win the title cos if anyone has deserved it, then it is him and i don’t want him to retire not having won the title because of his loyalty to us.
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 am
rafa is an idiot and does not have a clue,,,,,
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 7:50 am
chelsea fuckoff
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Retryboy - December 22nd, 2009 at 8:09 am
Sam posted on the other thread- Sam? You totally misunderstood me mate. I didn’t mean you meant dikhedJed. He comes on liverpool threads constantly with the sole intention of winding everybody up and i managed to do it 10 times as well to him in one comment. Thats why the ends justifies the means in that case. Can see with the way i wrote it where the confusion came from but i have never had any cause to insult you and so wouldn’t start now, thought you would have seen by the “coming on other fans pages to wind them up” part who i meant. Annoying that because of moderation you were left thinking that, could have been cleared up in seconds.
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...samlfc.... - December 22nd, 2009 at 9:37 am
i would hate it if i was internetless for the day!
Torres wouldn’t go to Real madrid because of his history with Atletico. its like as if Owen went to Man utd……oh wait thats already happened.
Torres would more than likly go to Barcelona or a Milan club……no on else but i can see him staying for a few years atleast. Masch is the more than likely player to leave but to Barcelona. i still think he’ll stay for atleast the remainder of this season.
also i would rate Torres £80 million and mascherano £30 million so for them both an offer of £110 million then i can see the owners taking it…..Mascherano would be a loss but Torres would be a massive bigger loss.
Retryboy – my reply to that is on the liverpool – portsmouth post.
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
In the summer, some drastic changes new to be done if liverpool are to move forward as a club, new investment is the 1st thing that needs to be addressed because the two greedy headless chickens have their own pockets at heart, Rafa has to go his is a good manager but no matter what investment he gets he is not the manager to win us the title, he buys to many mediocre players who just ain’t good enough to play for liverpool.
And the players who are not good enough, need to sold and shipped out as soon as possible and if we have good investors at the club, they should replace them with young, hungry class players with the potential to be world class in future.
So these people should be sold and replaced as they are not good enough to wear the shirt :
Itandje : GK Sell and bring in Joe Hart Of Manchester City.
Degan: RB Sell and bring in Rafinha of Schalke Or Micah Richards Of Manchester City
Dossena: LB Sell and bring in Taiwo of Marseille
Insua : LB Sell and bring back J Arne Riise from Roma
Krygiakos: CB Sell and bring in M Upson of West Ham.
Lucas: DM Sell and bring back M Sissoko from Juventus
Riera: LW Sell and Bring in Diego Capel of Seville.
El Zhar: RW Sell and bring in Jesus Navas of seville.
Kuyt: FD/RW Sell and bring in Lisandro of Lyon.
Voronin: FD Sell and bring in Lukas Podolski Of Cologne.
And then the new manager would also need to bring in two creative midfielders who are very forward thinking and can open up the best teams : Van Der Vaart From Real Madrid and Mata Of Valencia.
Those are the type of calibre of players who can play with the likes of Gerrard and Torres week in week out and get results for the club, Not the likes of Itandje, Degan, Dossena, Insua, Krygiakos, Lucas, Riera, El zhar, Kuyt and Voronin would not get into the squads of: Chelsea, Manchester Utd, Arsenal, Aston Villa, Tottenham and Manchester City.
And those are the teams that we are in competition with for years to come for trophies and a top 4 spot, so its not a coincidence why we are doing so poorly in the league, as if our main men are not on form every game we have no other players stepping up to the mark because they simply are not good enough to do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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anonymous - December 23rd, 2009 at 4:10 am
mark hughes is not proven , so for u guys wanting to have him at lfc shud shut up, o’neill shud be our new manager if rafa was to be sacked or hiddink
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anonymous - December 23rd, 2009 at 5:00 am
Liverpool jus need to sell the useless voronin, the flop babel, dossena amd maybe el-zhar. Then use the money to bring in a good youngster like that spanish dude, juan mata from valencia. And also sack benitez and replace him with mourinho. Then they will fly
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anonymous - December 26th, 2009 at 12:20 am
come to chelsea Torres and Gerrard
1. Aguero or Pato
2. Villa, if we can get Silva and/or Mata as well, if not then i think we should get Quaresma back
2.1. If Fernando Torres or Steven Gerrard is available in January,swoop before City, RM.
3. Alan Dzagoev
Milos Krasic (did u see him against Man U!)
Alex Tiexeira (before Man U can nab him)
Giampaolo Pazzini
4. Daniele de Rossi
Franck Ribery
Lucas Piazon (youth from Brazil)
Romelu Lukaku (youth from Anderlecht)
Darijo Srna
Juan Manuel Vargas
Jerko Leko
5. Marek Hamsik
and/or Joao Moutinho
and/or Raul Meireles
6. An ACN backup,
Luis Suarez
Adriano
Roman Pavlyuchenko
7. YOUTH!!!! Matej Delac, Lorenzo Paramatti, Gai Assulin, Neymar, Seydou Doumbia, Jack Rodwell
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anonymous - December 29th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
i think dat rafa is a gud manager, but things arent goin 4 him now….
u surely cnt blame him 4 defensive mess ups.. the players even came out and said its our faults not rafas , and that they are under performing.. so giv rafa a break i bet when he was winnin us the fa cup and champions league ye were all singin his praises.. giv him a break
IN RAFA I TRUST
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