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Alberto Aquilani! Not for some time has a footballer produced quite so much heated debate whilst seemingly rarely getting the chance to prove his worth on the pitch whilst everyone and anyone chimes in on just why the former Roma man can’t appear to get himself into the Anfield first team picture.
Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez is a man I have stood up for many times on this website and I am beginning to run out of patience with the Spaniard and this latest travesty is frankly mind boggling. Now its true that Alberto was not involved at Fratton Park because of some sort of strain or other but whilst that may go some way to explaining that particular bit of confusion it doesn’t bring this issue to a head one iota.
You could, and probably should, question the logic of first spending £20m on a player with a long term injury and who is in fact very injury prone (his former Italian employers must have rubbed their hands in glee when we paid up the first installment of the fee) but for Rafa to then repeatedly ignore the Liverpool midfielder is quite possibly our gaffers most confusing bit of managerial insanity yet.
After making his debut cameo appearance away at Arsenal in the Carling Cup, over two and half months after we signed him, Aquilani has played a grand total of 40 minutes of Premier League football. 40 minutes! Why the hell did he buy Alberto?
The best case scenario with regards to this transfer is that Rafa has realised his mistake in buying a player who is going to be constantly struggling with fitness, but the worst case scenario is that having bought the Italian international, he now believes him to not be good enough. However if it was down to fitness then I would imagine him being placed on the subs bench week in, week out, would be a tad pointless.
We have just been overtaken in the Premier League by Birmingham so its not like AA (Alberto Aquilani) is struggling to displace a winning side. According to recent reports AA is not happy with the situation and even his dad has chimed in wondering why, as no doubt we all are, Liverpool signed his son in the first place.
If Rafa is axed and removed from his position as Liverpool boss, and lets face it that could well happen any day now, then a footnote to his time at the club could well be the farce that has surrounded the purchase of the Rome born talent. He was touted by Benitez as a replacement for Xabi Alonso, although not a direct like for like change but nonetheless added talent to put into our midfielder, so why the hell does he never select him?
YNWA
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
plz go rafa!!we dont want you.dont make us suffer any more and resign.everytime u have excuses that even an idiot can say.there is no passion,no pride and no force in the squad with only relying on gerrard and torres!!a team is not made by only 2 players!!the manager has the role to convey the message t o his team how to play and organize the team and play intelligently,making good decisions.i have also seen as if no one in the team now under rafa”s leadership to call for the ball,shoulder responsibility,make good passes,have unity in the squad!!v.v.v.poor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!rafa is not the right man to bring us the trophies and u know that!we are Liverpool football club!!and i am saying it because i am a die-hard fan.before even the biggest of teams feared playing LFC as they considered us as a terror but now with much rage and disapointment,i can say from the style of play that we do not even have the calibre to be playing in the coca-cola league 2 championship.we have stooped down so low!no fighting spirit
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 9:08 pm
i am a die hard lfc fan and this travesty of aqua is beyond me… only thing i can think of is that aqua demanded to play and may have had some words with rafa and since then rafas arrogance has come into play and he is purposely punishing him at the cost of our clubs respect and reputation.. thats not all….it s very clear from the players body language they are not plying for the manager anymore!! he s not aplayers manager like harry redknapp, martin oneill etc etc… our club is not here so an arrogant spanish waiter can thrive on getting a hard on by abusing his power by playing players outa postion,, inexplicibly leaving them out on bench..look at how he has killed babels spirit.. the guy looks depressed.. look at how he treated robbie keane.. left heim so unwanted that he was a nervous wreck.. he started playing him on the left wing like babel.. destroyed their confidence so they would start missing easy opportunities to score and then say oh look they are not playin well..
RAFA YOU ARE A F**K*N DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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...samlfc.... - December 21st, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Great post and it beats me aswell as we have been craving for an attacking midfielder now for awhile and Aquilani fits the bill yet we don’t give him any playing time! Rafa its time to say goodbye.
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RyanO - December 21st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Agreed, the lads have quit on Rafa and to be fair, he seemed to quit on them quite early on. This is not the first time Rafa’s purchases have been dubious. What about Robbie Keane from last season? Of couse, there are those who will say that Keane just didn’t get the job done, but look again. How many chances did he actually get and where did those come, lone striker? And the names of players who were “not good enough” is getting longer and the goals that they score are piling higher whilst we sit and wait for “the season to start now” as the gaffer is so fond of stating. Crouchy, Bellamy, Anelka and on and on. Go ahead and call them shit if you like, but the numbers do not lie. Our tactics are shit, as usual. He switched to a double striker and got 3 points and then went back to his shit formation and we had no ideas on scoring. How fucking sick of all this El Nino must be. This is one of the most talented scorers we’ve ever had, but even he cannot single handedly control the front third of the pitch! I’ve been struggling to understand how a team that came so close last campaign has become just about the worst in the league and it’s got to be due to complacency and non effort. They ought to be ashamed of depositing their wages after showings like Pompey and such. Any gaffer worth his wage would have this team playing better. WHAT THE FUCK IS RAFA DOING!!!!?
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Please Raffa do the decent thing and go back home to Spain.
We have had enough of your erratic behaviour and total lack of man management skills. You have let go quality players who at least looked interested. You have replaced them with players who are not good enough, have no passion or heart. I certainly would not give you another penny th throw away. £40 a week is a lot of money to pay each week but wont be much longer.
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guillem balague muppet - December 21st, 2009 at 10:13 pm
rafa benitez is the stubbornest person on the planet, he believes that masch and lucas are his best options right now thats why aqualani is not getting more minutes on the pitch, it is easy for anyone to see that it is not working out, except rafa. some of his transfers have been a tad strange too, it is time to replace him i think. i cannot see us improving enough with him in charge to make a champions league spot this season, it would probably be in the clubs best interest to replace him in the new year.having said that i still dont understand why people are on here calling him a fat spanish waiter or wafa or whatever, its not funny its downright disrespectful to a man who may have lost the support of some fans, but has done alot of good work for the club. Show some respect.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 10:27 pm
if any of yous were die hard fans yous would know aquilani got injured in training and couldn’t play against portsmouth….yous haven’t got a f&*king clue
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Thanks for bringing some respect and sanity to this thread GBM!
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 10:41 pm
mystery solved YNWA, if you actually took the time to read the liverpool fc tv site once and a while you’d have known he was injured in training and that his first injury was worse than previously thought.There for making your article Confusing, annoying and downright senseless!
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Dont worry guys….. Im sure as soon as he is fit he will be in the squad each and every week.
I think maybe at left back knowing Rafa!!
Rafa sucks!
Monsta01
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 11:11 pm
why our fans keep supporting him then he should have gone 2 years ago if we loose or draw we must shout for his head raffa out raffa out it is the only way to save ouer season
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Aquaman - December 21st, 2009 at 11:21 pm
guillem balague muppet – great post.
I have huge respect for Rafa as a manger. Unfortunately it appears that he is not what we need at the moment. He’s done a great job in the 5 years that he’s been here. Our squad is completely different from what we had when he arrived and its unbelievable how good he’s managed to make it with the limited budget he’s had (before I get a whole lot of kneejerkers telling me the squad is crap. 86 points. Take that).
Sadly it appears that we need a change to give us the energy to make the move from title pretenders to title succeeders.
I hope that Rafa moves to Serie A as I think he would be devastating there. Plus it would be nice to see Mourinho beaten. If not, then he’ll probably be snapped up by Madrid in which case we won’t be seeing any Champion’s League trophies for a while.
Rafa + unlimited transfer budget + Ronaldo, Kaka, etc = domination.
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Rafa saw him being creative and he is in a de-training camp run by biscan now. Think the worst thing he did was try a party trick in the meaningless fiorentina game, Rafa must have had kittens. It would mean playing with more than 3 creative players in a team. He will do it now mascherano is missing, wouldn’t leave out lucas for him though.
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anonymous - December 21st, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Rafa needs to leave… Chelsea did this a while back, look at them… clear at the top of the table by a substantial amount of points.
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Retryboy - December 21st, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Aquaman.. Don’t you think he didn’t want the real madrid job before because he knows it is a poisoned chalice? You don’t get any control of who gets bought, galacticos must play. They demand attacking quality football as well as results, owners are impatient like the fans. Don’t think he would last 5 minutes there personally and he knows it.
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Aquaman - December 21st, 2009 at 11:53 pm
hehe. Quite possible, Retryboy.
Would still like to see him in Italy though. AC Milan need help, so how about pinching him from us?
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guillem balague muppet - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 am
retry your spot on about real madrid the last few mangers have joined for the money i think any manager with an ounce of sense would turn them down the bloody president calls the shots the coach just trains them really.
now hiddink is available in the new year the owners need to pay off rafa and get him in imo
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Retryboy - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 am
Italian style of football would probably suit him to be fair. Guillem.. I don’t think realistically any of the decent managers could be tempted before the season is finished. Would have Kenny in till then, really think he is our best shot at making top four and there is a very good chance he would do so well he would stay on and i would love ablett and Hansen to join the staff too. Ablett as number 2 and Hansen as defensive coach. You could definitely groom a future manager out of both of them. I do think maybe this investment h&g are trying desperately to get will be to get him out and whoever they think in(dreading their opinion on the subject but they might suprise us)
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PeteMullen - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:17 am
Are you serious fella? As a follower of Serie A for quite some years, i have seen aquilani on quite a few occasions. He is a MAGNIFICENT player with huge potential. The reason aquilani is ‘injury prone’ as you have so magnificently wrote is due to the fact that he was such a huge player for Roma, even if he was only say 51% (maybe not that low) or above fit, he WOULD play. Similar to what the gerrard/torres scenario would be for us if we had an important game coming up. Thus aggrevating the former injury, meaning he’d be out even longer. (think torres & gerrard for eg) Aquilani was signed for quite a large sum of money agreed. But the guy has won serie A player of the year before over the likes of kaka, pato, pirlo, ibrahimovic…etc. Were you expecting him on a free? Rafa’s protecting a player he has signed for 5 years. He’s bringing him in slowly. And i can understand why, so should you. You really think that if we just stick him in there were going to win? We’re a TEAM, and the TEAM isn’t playing good enough! Aquilani’s dad is a medic at the stadio olimpico, course he’s going to say something like that if his boy aint playing. Aquilani said he was happy after the fiorentina game. And all of you other ‘’supporters” who only ‘’support” us when we’re winning, sod off will ya?! You have an oppinion alright but it’s an incredibly misguided one. Show me a quote from benitez saying ”aquilani’s a direct replacement for alonso” There isn’t one, aquilani is far better than alonso, and as much as it annoyed me to see him go, can any of you remember the season’s before the one that he left? He was showing us what we were going to miss, in other words showing us the type of consistency he hadn’t been producing that regularly before he left. You know when he wasn’t as amazing as skysports tell you? How many goals did he score for a central midfield player? He wanted to go, you’re saying if you were manager you’d want a player at you’re club who didn’t want to be there? Rafa managed the situation wrong with alonso but thats in the past now, deal with it. He had a great pass which made me smile from time to time, fair enough good vision. Just you wait for aquilani to settle. Then we’ll see whose whinging about alonso. Don’t believe everything you read, even this. Do you’re own research and stop blerting out whatever SSN or the daily rag tell you is ‘true’.
But yeah, then again don’t listen to me, i’m going on like i’m a member of the medical staff at melwood or something!!
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 am
The thing about managing in Spain, I believe, is that they can only employ mangers out of work and cannot poach them, unlike over here. So when they sack one they cannot have their pick of any manager out there. I may be wrong and it may only apply to those working in Spain?
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guillem balague muppet - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 am
hiddink would have joined man city in january according to his agent,wether he would join us is debateable,not sure if kenny has the heart for management anymore even if it is killing him to watch us right now, id like to see hyypia back as a coach
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:29 am
the guy who posts below me is gay
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Donavan Ried - December 22nd, 2009 at 2:25 am
Evening Aquaman, guillem balague muppet and Retryboy
Aquaman – December 21st, 2009 at 11:21 pm …….I have huge respect for Rafa as a manger…… It is hard to respect a Rafa when he comes out with some lame excuse or blames players or Ref’s when the fault is so obviously his and he refuses to own up to it
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rassell - December 22nd, 2009 at 2:45 am
The tit who posted before me is a tosser….grow up.
Ok now to the serious stuff.
PeteMullen fair enough mate you are the only true liverpool fan i have ever come across on here or anywhere else.
I have been one of those fans who have been slaging of rafa on ere in the past few weeks. I would agree with Aquaman about our squad being better then what it was when he started to an extent not completely. The main reason for that is so rafa can keep these good players out of the clutches of the opposition eg babel, stoped him from going to arsnal. Then he will buy the players he really wants eg kuyt, lucas, insua….he will plays these players week in week out and then play players like babel once in a blue moon and even then out of position…that is babel’s fault cos when he signed he should have said he was a goalkeeper might have played him up front then.
I had a lot of respect for the guy when he came, thought tactically he was brilliant at the same time knowing man management wasn’t great (what an understatement). But for the last year and a half he has been losing the it in more ways then one, he has been messing up his tactics, subtitutions and the final straw he has lost the players faith in him.
Tactically i really don’t understand why change the way were playing towards the end of last season we were attacking, flowing wonderful at times, then start of this season he goes back to his old boring style, holding the players back, sticking with players like lucas when he should be playing benayun, macheano,gerrad and Aquillani with babel and torres in front. I think that dirty old fergie has got to him.
Making all these wrong calls players like gerrad and torres you can see it in their face they are getting fed up with him.
I think it is best for all concerned if we parted and went our own ways, it will be a fresh start for him and also our beloved team, hell we need it. I wish him all the best where ever he goes but i really think he has taken us as far as he can.
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rassell - December 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 am
sorry donavon that first tate wasn’t for you it was for the tit before.
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Donavan Ried - December 22nd, 2009 at 5:40 am
rassell – December 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 am ……No prob’ rassell
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 am
Rassell in my country, all this problems on the firled is summed as bribe/match fixing.
The coach can do the best in training and up to the filed before kick-off. Then the players will play their tune…. the tune of money form those illegal betting guys. What i know, whenever Liver plays their odds to win is low. The opponents gets higer odds. So when everyone outs money for Liver to win, the bookies will fix the game to loose.
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Retryboy - December 22nd, 2009 at 8:06 am
Pete mullin- rafa is bringing him on slowly… No that would involve gradually upping the minutes he plays. Not 20 mins 6 weeks ago, 40 seconds 2 weeks later after the 70 mins against fiorentina did you not hear the player? I have never heard anyone more desperate to play games. Rafa has even said himself the player is totally fit, he just needs minutes. In games where we had all the possession but did nothing with it the fans all saw a problem rafa didn’t he was saying he didn’t want to introduce aquilani because we had control. When has rafa ever said he is a replacement for alonso? Well after spending the alonso cash on him you would kind of assume… Oh and when he promised us at the start of the season “he is like alonso but more attacking.” don’t have to look up quotes or follow newspapers either. I watch games with my eyes open the “true fans” quote is typical of the in rafa we trust brigade because you can’t actually defend Rafa’s decisions on the pitch so you hide behind the liverpool way. Doesn’t wash with me, houllier and souness were allowed to carry on for too long doing damage to the club and the same has happened with rafa. How low will you allow us to fall before enough is enough?
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PeteMullen - December 22nd, 2009 at 9:36 am
Retryboy? Aquilani is in Belgrade fella, along with el zhar. Infact, they’d gone or was on their way before the portsmouth game apparently. Some placenta treatment thats all the rage?? I can understand where you’re coming from, and i agree with a few things like obviously building up his minutes. But if he’d brought him on in that blackburn and he’d got injured or had a shocker it’s ”rafa’s got it wrong” as per…Not one professional football player has ever not wanted to play have they? Maybe dossena? And i didn’t know you were in charge or had the insight of the club’s finances in and out. All clubs don’t give the full amount on the day they receive the player chief. Unless you’re citeh or madrid? Look i can’t be arsed arguing with fellow reds. so i’ll leave you with this. All i want to see is support from our infamous fans for everyone at the club. Once we’ve got the whole team or 90% ish fully fit and and rafa can pick his strongest 11 players playing for a run of 5 to 10 games, and if it’s all still going tit’s up. I’ll put my hands up and say i’m not happy with this, we need a change. Until that day, which will happen. YNWA.
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Ryan - December 22nd, 2009 at 9:38 am
Pete Mullen, it makes a refreshing change to read something sensible for a change instead of the sensationalist comments that normally get thrown about.
I too am frustrate at not seeing Aqualani play but there have been a lot of games where it just wouldn’t have helped him or the team if he’d been put on. Admittedly there have also been a few games where it has surprised me that he hasn’t featured, but it’s not half as bad as everybody makes out on here.
With Mascherano being injured/banned for at least the next 4 games it seems we’ll finally have chance to see AA for a prolonged period. Lets just hope he does well and comes through it with no injuries
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PeteMullen - December 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
Fuggin A-MEN to that Ryan!!
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Retryboy - December 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 am
Was more the 2nd halves at lyon and debrecen that were crying out for him, dropping gerrard back and playing him behind the lone striker takes a lot of the physical threat away and players like gerrard, johnson, benayoun and torres are constantly rushed back with no training but like you say don’t want to waste time arguing with fellow fans, would say though that without aquilani all season still there have been lots of options for a more balanced midfield 3. With marcherano, gerrard, benayoun the one so often missed. Benayoun played behind the striker 3 times this season 6-1, 4-0 and beating utd and its been available to rafa most of the season. Thats why its obvious to me rafa is just choosing the most defensive option, sure if gerrard wasn’t available aquilani would have been involved more.
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
how dumb are you mate? AA is fuc kin injured AGAIN!, still no surprise, he’ll finnish his career on the table, with his buddies torres and gerrad. sad bunch of crocks.
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
sadly & for too long now rafas main problems come down to his overall stubborness & @I AM RIGHT@ policy. his man-management skills with his players has and continues to be awful and this is the route of his problems whilst at times is embarrasing. many examples of this are:
15 reasons why RAFA IS A GOBSHITE!
1 CROUCH – takes ages to score and then when he does rafa start rotating him…
2 to further proof of this euro final against a poor milan who all week are running shit scared of him & what does rafa the cockhead do…puts him on the bench goes all defensive & then brings him on for the last ten…thats when any faith i had in this prick went truly out of the window!
3 BELLAMY – now a hit & miss player with me but if u have a bit of faith in him the end product is frightening…only have to see how he plays for the now sacked mark hughes. sadly as well this lad was over the moon to wear the red shirt but after fews weeks rafa starts rotating, playing him out of position etc. (nothing unusual there.
4 BABEL – this lad who yes has not reached the obvious potential he did have when he joined us….what happens when he is played its on the left…not up front running at people with pace & strength. but can rafa see this no…like others before him & if he stays others after him regularys plays peole out of position.
5 KEANE – the missing link! how excited was many a fan about this proven prem player talent written all over him and probaly the closet thing we have had in a red shirt since beardsley. unfortunately torress struggles, gerrard out as well. several months in playing as a lone striker a position he has played when? then finally nails it scores begins to show some promise …what next dropped…incredible! now before any smart arse says well we won at newcastle 5 nil please they were probaly the worst team in the last sevral years in the prem…but what must keane have thought…& then jan he is off….terrible and sums up the arrogance of rafa.
6 & if parry had overuled hitler in bringing keane in to prove a point was an insult to evry decent red fan!
7 XABI – god how we miss him…treated like a cunt because barry wanted by the cockhead then has an amazing season & xabi fair play decides enough is enough…yes we made money out him…but to sum rafa up xabi is treated like an outcast because he stayed behind for the birth of his child…what is that all about few weeks later traing the lads are congratulating him etc what does rafa do only mention something football related & that is a fact a fucking cold one as well!
8 BARRY – a good all round player looks at the situation of rotation, rafas non man-management skills, world cup & possibly more money & thinks fuck that!
9 & we end up with one of the worst sterile and uncreative midfied pairings since PAUL STEWART & KOZMA but hey what do know ?
10 fast forward AQUA – now last season i had many reservations about this lad reagrding of how good he is supposed to be? but yes like most willing to give him a chance …he gets himself fit plays less minutes than JEAN-MICHAEL-FERRI & yes he was suppopsedly injured on sat after training a fucking DEAD THIGH by all accounts….rafa builds him up week after week & now all of a sudden thinks nah…….not my cup a tea mate? why because he likes to play further than the half way line & for a rafa midfielder that is a bigger crime than raping your best friends pet dog!
11 his endless drivel & obvouis changes @ ‘when 65-70 mins, comes up sammy well make a sub’ …that will throw the opposition of guard!’
12 the game poised at 1-nil or heading for another bore draw what does rafa do….oh lets play it out lads defend…hit them on the COUNTER ATTACK…fuck if i hear this phrase one more time I will end up doing time!
13 as the games goes on he scurringly continues to write his novel that is now bigger than the entire distribution of the bible …how many fucking notes does this man make & what does it mean?????????????????????????
14 the in RAFA we trust BRIGADE…please open your eyes this man is and always was a false prophet who has continued to live on two one off cup finals won by a certain steve g & two keepers…& rem in both game splayed of the park …& saved again by dudek & reina in the last mins….& to those cunts who walk the streets with their picture shrines like he is jesus…wankers!
15 & finally the paedo goatee…just cause gary glitter has got one it is not fashionable….so shave it off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i could add more but for now the rant is over….heres hoping for a great xmas & new year to all friends & enemies ha & to hoping the board or rafa himself finally says no more! now that would be worth rejoicing!
GIRLFRIEND IN A COMA I KNOW ITS SERIOUS!
JMMYCARTERWINGWIZARD
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...samlfc.... - December 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
Jimmy carter wing wizard that was a fantastic post and Rafa in the prem sucks basically but Rafa in serie A would be unbeatable thanks to his defensive tactics……Please Ac milan take Rafa away from us!! Hiddink or Van basten in maybe Mourinho but i preferthe oter 2
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Note:
Its rumoured from what comes out liverpool that aqualini is frightened with the pace of the EPL and thats why Rafa is coy with his excuses about playing him.
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
cheers samlfc am glad u like but i am sure there will be a few tearing their hair our head or pubic!
jcww
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
& yes mourinho is the man for me…hiddink would be ace but at 61/62 how long for? as for van basten errm not sure but would change our whole style of play for sure for the better!
JCWW
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jimmyk - December 22nd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
he is injured…
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Retryboy - December 22nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Spot on post jjimmycarter would add 16-danny murphy(would still walk into the team and we could have done with him instead of kuyt on the right for the last 5 years) 17-Finnan(had the defensive strength of arbeloa and could attack great crosser let go too early) 18-Warnock&riise(would have them over any of our left backs) 19-Hyppia(kyrgiakos enough said) if we started going into team selections and tactics could easily hit 100
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the kop - December 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
aquaman,
what planet are you living on.
if raffa went to madrid he would last about five minutes , their fans would not put up with his negative style . italy maybe but the bottom line is he is not good enough.
to say our squad is better now then when he took over is a stretch at best .
remember he won the cl with a squad he inherited bar two players.
lucas,dossena,babel,vorinin,ngog,reira etc would not have made it into the 2005 team.
He has spent a truck load of money , has not won the league (which he promised) and we are closer to the bottom of the table than the top.
for the good of our club he must be sacked, even if it means spending our transfer funds to get rid of him . we need a new manager with new ideas who will go to the likes of portsmouth and not play 3 defensive midfielders (this was the end of him for me)
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
firstly retryboy yeh good points to add on…& u r right we could probaly hit 100 or even more and that would be scratching the service at what is without doubt the most overated manager yet…totally inept, the tactical nous equal of the man who said lets drop a few thousand troops on that beach in the 2nd ww & the conversation of a baboon! my faith in this man was never apparent even from day one when he was presented with that smug grin….never trusted him & now finally more than ever more & more fans are jumping on the ship thats called RAFA OUT! over the next few weeks it will be really interesting to see how it goes…but sadly him gaining the control he wanted has and is the worst thing liverpool have let happen…this club is always bigger than one man…even the great SHANKS would state this…as 4 madrid there welcome to him..but must echo would they be happy to watch the same tripe week in week out! last season for the first half we were top & awful…but why arsenal where shite, chelsea unstable, & manpoo struggling & ageing…enter several weeks that summed rafa up stoke away liverpool wobbling under manpoos sudden rise…they play there 0-0 mins to go whisky nose throws on an extra striker or 2 goes for it rooneys scores…liverpool go there 0-0 same situation…ok the post saves them but what else did he do to change FUCK ALL…apart from getting a point instead of THREE thats the difference & this will not change…fast forward hes the underdog were chasing & finally the penny drops lets GET AT THEM! but as united claim nos 18 to equal ours we are left to think what if what fucking if? unforgiveable….rafa unfortunately throws all his eggs in one basket after that well folks the basket is EMPTY….get rid get shut get a grip!
in all my years of watching the reds since 83/84 i have never more so now lost the faith in my team your team than at this present time….even under souness at least you new where u stood …but this prick there is no end to his utter nonsense baffling, stubborn, control and drivel….i mean blackburn away brings on el fucking dwarf body zhar oooh the rovers defenders must have thought…& still leaves his 20 mill man warming up..why because its a little bit rough for him….imagine the BILLS, BOBS, JOES, KENNYS etc thinking that even saying it…farcical….apols if rafa ranting rambling…but LIMBOPOOL have become the laughing stock of world football…& ironic in the year a certain MR SHANKS arrived LIVERPOOL are like then lost ….and that saddens me more than ever! currently we are relegation form mark my words yes we have the players to turn things around but surely this carrot of 4th is again just sweeping the mounting problems under the spaniards table…taxi for rafa!
just think if GERRARD & TORRES do give in to temptation & frankly who can blame them!
laughing with SID JAMES
JIMMYCARTERWINGWIZARD
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Aquaman - December 22nd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
the kop -
Firstly I’m only replying because you’ve had the decency to register and put a name to your comments.
Secondly, unlike the anonymous legion, I remember beyond this season’s tragedy. I remember us out-scoring every other team in the league and missing out on the golden gloves by one clean sheet in the same season. I remember winning the champion’s league with a feeble squad. I remember 4-4 draws with both Arsenal and Chelsea where we showed more heart in one game than we have this whole season combined. I remember 4-0 against the mighty Madrid. I remember 4-1 in Manchester. I remember 86 points. I remember three consecutive golden glove awards.
I also remember Reina, Yossi, Torres, Agger, Mascherano, Kuyt, Johnson, N’Gog, Nemeth, Pacheco, Ayala, Kelly, tons of other great youngsters and possibly Aquilani.
Total cost: 88.5 mil
Yes Rafa has been caught out this season, but these feats are not those of a so called ‘useless’ manager. Rafa is damn good, but not perfect, and not what we need.
As for Real Madrid, I think he would be great there. If their fans don’t agree then that’s their loss.
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Retryboy - December 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Lol must admit i never agreed with his decisions but thought the good outweighed the bad until this season. Kept looking at all the quality players and youngsters, used to have glimmers of hope in the old rotation days that sometimes he would get it right but now everyone knows the team and if there is a surprise its another defender sneaked in somewhere. The quality youngsters will never get a fair chance signing kyrgiakos over kelly and ayala whilst packing off nemeth to athens in one hit proved that. What hope has a young attacker got when there are only 3 attacking players in a team? Totally agree that it is since he has had the total control he fought so hard for things have gone from bad to ridiculous and still people say he is somehow a good manager! At least now though they are following it with not for us though!
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Retryboy
You are so spot on
I can see wolves getting something o boxing day
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
aquaman are you fighting a lone srcap for all things rafa or are you just hanging on to the ifs & buts?
you mention a few things reg results, players etc….but surely you must see above this that rafa is not the man in my eyes never was but for others blinkered blinded & sadly taken in!
you name 4-4 draws errm arsenal in particular piss poor defending and sadly demonstrated the difference between two brands of football! whilst the chelsea game was always a mountain to climb fuck drogba still laughs at rafas comments how to work a man up! as for united glorious result but being honest until the 2nd goal there was not much in it even after the break united had is under the cosh until fabio stepped up! people seem to forget this. now for the players you list for every torres, yossi, reina theres carra & gerrard apart from that agger when hes fit after….mash errm highly overated…i mean all he does is tackle what else does this player have in his locker…apart from consistent fouling and a look of someone who has had a stroke!
but please dont put kuyt in there jesus what is with fans who thinks because he works hard he is any good…awful player …& if i was left back facing him…would rub my warm hands with glee! cant dribble, cant cross, cant control, cant shoot, ok at headers & is sadly rafas fave no matter how bad he plays & this season he has been horrific. you name johnson…why because he has a few good games at the start of the season…this lad granted is a good player & better than the previous right back (think arsenal) but surely when we had a decent youngster in darby even kelly was it wise money spent? which leads me to the next point he goes on about all these young talented players 7 of them from wait a minute HUNGARY & does what ? packs them off shit last season we had sadly a reserve team of not one local/british player in there…someone taking bungs here or what? now ur point of outscoring fair play but why & when most of these & correct me if i am wrong where scored later when we had to chase had to go for it something that rafa has never done!
houlliers team scored something like 112 goals in the treble season if i am right & played some fantastic football after his heart attack & 2nd place he has we know cocked up by buying dio etc instead off duff etc & two years later it cost him dearly….rafa year in year out purchases terrible buys, never gets the best out of most of his team, & always moans of lack of finances ….hey but he felt it was great business to buy the greek love god whos standard of football was even piss poor in scotland! hey but what do i know…..many things!
hello my name is stan im on a quest take your pills take nothing less!
JIMMYCARTERWINGWIZARD
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Retryboy - December 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Doesn’t make sense rafa told us that aquilani got a kick on the thigh. Hardly something in need of radical witch doctory! Another example of him pulling the wool over the fans eyes.
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anonymous - December 22nd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
move on rafa your time is up just hope wherever you go you dont start picking at torres your one real world class signing but theres prob about another 20 could start booking flights as soon as you leave as a replacement i would get real reds in people with liverpool in their blood not our money in their bank accounts keegan ,thomson ,etc
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anonymous - December 23rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Will be interesting to see if AA gets a run out, or, shock horror, a starting berth, in the match against Wolves on Boxing Day, with Masch out injured / banned, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that AA should no take his rightful place in the middle of the park from the start…
However, knowing Rafa (and with all due respect), Nathan Eccleston or the likes is more likely to get the nod…
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anonymous - December 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
ha ha fucking sellouts. arsenal!!! arsenal!!! the greatest ever seeeenn!!!!!!!!
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PeteMullen - December 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
yeah im sure Nathan Eccleston the striker’s gonna play in mascha’s place. is that the last youngster you saw come on from the bench on you’re tele in Taipei?
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anonymous - December 23rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
ha ha sellout losers. get behind your club when not doing well,don’t ship them out to sea. your all a disgrace. your a bunch of greedy sucsess hungry glory chasing lot of losers i have ever seen.support man u or chelsea if you want to win things. cause by getting a new manager your saying you want a different team. sellouts. arsenal havn’t been doing well for four years after we were invincable, do you see me crying like a bitch and shipping my manager out to sea? no! your a disgrace to your club and if i were a looserpool fan i’d be ashamed. hahaha this is the funniest thing i have ever seen you lot crying on here wanting sucsess lol. every other team is laughing for one reason and one reason only, cause your a bunch of sellouts. learn to love the story your team is going through at the mo. sucsess doesn’t last for ever, and nor does being shit. grow up!!!!
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spota - December 26th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
i personally think it comes down to money and have been told when roberto has played 25 plus games an instalment is due. is it poss there trying to hang on to wot money they have for jan window. if this is true its a very sad time for us as fans. just gutted i couldent go to the wolves game today. neices birthday. as i think roberto will start today. due to loss of masc . but i also agree with someone elses com. that rafa dosent think hes good enuff. its one of the 2 you decide !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YNWA
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spota - December 26th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
sorry alberto not roberto sos lads b4 i take to much stick to much festive beer
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