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Jose Mourinho is once again lining up a sensational bid for Liverpool’s £40m-rated talisman Steven Gerrard.
Inter Milan boss Mourinho came close to wrestling Gerrard away from Anfield in 2005 when in charge of Chelsea, only for the midfielder to have a last minute change of heart.
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Now, according to Italian agent Claudio Pasqualin, Mourinho is working with the money men in Milan to put together a package to tempt Gerrard away from his home town club this summer.And with Rafa Benitez admitting over the weekend that he may be forced to sell his prized assets if Liverpool fail to qualify for next season’s Champions League, Inter are preparing to take advantage of the Reds’ perilous financial state.
Pasqualin claims that a few major surprises are on the cards at the end of this season and that Inter are prepared to break the bank for Gerrard. (Independent)
You have to admire Jose Mourinho’s guts on this one. The former Chelsea manager clearly can’t get enough of Stevie G, the ‘Special One’ has tried many times before to convince Gerrard to leave Anfield and it appears the Inter Milan boss wants to nab our Liverpool skipper. Of course he doesn’t have a hope in hell. There are many journalists/experts/so-called pundits who believe that our top players will leave the club if we fail to make it into the top four this term. Personally I don’t think that will happen but it appears to have led all manner of rumours circulating linking Steven Gerrard and El Nino to a great many big sides but I think we can rest easy on that front for the time being.
Now last night we were dumped out of the FA Cup, as I am sure we are all to aware, and obviously that leaves us fighting for just one piece of silverware and one we never wanted to be involved in at that rate. Rafa has come out and stated his defiance and wants to stay at the Liverpool helm but he is really beginning to ease himself into an untenable position. Allowing Reading, a Championship side who are not exactly setting the table alight with their league performances, to come from a goal down at Anfield is unforgivable.
The next few weeks to a month will be critical for the gaffer and whilst many would state that they still trust in Rafa, that number is dwindling at an alarming rate and only results will rectify that situation.
Maxi Rodriguez may well help Benitez stay in his post and the capture of the Argentine midfielder is a great bit of business and the knock on effect of keeping Javier Mascherano happy is a bonus also. Having offloaded Andrei Voronin and Andrea Dossena, two bits of deadwood that needed to be removed, we should have a bit of cash to perhaps bring in another player or two. Liverpool have however distanced themselves from a potential move for Marouane Chamakh so thats one less target from the ever growing list.
YNWA
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Rafa should be sacked right now!
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Maxi is a great purchase, lets hope he gives us more options out wide
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RaNE - January 14th, 2010 at 11:17 am
If we make top4, THEY BOTH ARENT GOING NOWHERE
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Rafa is a nice guy but unfortunately he is not good enough , players he puts faith in are very very average , Kuyt , Insua and Lucas are prime candidates , I think the squad is not far off what we need ,the likes of Mascherano , Agger , Reina , Torres , Aquillani , Gerrard , Johnson , and maybe Maxi are good enough to bring the title to Anfield , Rafa though is not the boss to get the best out of players too defensive minded for one also zonal marking is terrible every team we play cause us problems at corners and set pieces Kenny or Mourinho would install confidence again in are mighty club . YNWA
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9torres - January 14th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Would be easier to sack Rafa and bring Mourinho to Anfield so he can get his man…
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Topredman - January 14th, 2010 at 11:40 am
This can’t go on for much longer and by Rafa “guaranteeing” us a 4th place spot, failure to achieve 4th spot surely must see him go. With Hicks saying there is big spending to be taking place in the summer, I fully expect a new manager to take over and for him to have some money to spend. Any prospective manager would love to have Torres and Gerrard in their side, so they won’t be going anywhere. They and the spending money will be the bait that lands a new manager. I still think Mourhinio heads the list as he couldn’t pass up the opportunity to lock horns with Chelsea, Arsenal and Man U again. His ego will want the challenge.
The teams’ performance last night was woeful and Rafa seems unable to turn this around. Most of the players look like they don’t know what to do and there isn’t any real goal threat form the likes of Kuyt or Ngog. The midfield on one hand with Aquilain looked too fancy and on the other hand with Lucas looked uninventive. The defence is a shambles. It can only be a matter of time before a change takes place, otherwise the club is going nowhere except downhill with increasing debt and worsening performances.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Exactly i dont understand what the americans are waiting for they should have sacked benitez long time ago.Benitez have failed the kop.Bring in Roy Hodgson/King Kenny for the remainder of the season.
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Donavan Ried - January 14th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
We should switch it around and put in a bid for Jose Mourinho
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Sullivan - January 14th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
I’d rather have Gerrard as player/coach :L
I said it when we beat united, ive said it every week since ive joined. The 05 champions league win was the worst thing ever for Liverpool.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
its time for rafa to go along with babel and kuyt then appoint king kenny till end of season then get in jose mourinho/ roy hodgson or martin oneil
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Yanks cant afford to sack rafa. him going would cost between £15 mill and £20 mill. We actually need another club to want to appoint rafa, that way we are owed compo rather than liable for it.
I personally disagree that he should go. Yeah this season has sucked more ass than graham norton, but remember the way we performed last season, rafa can and will(if given the chance) get us playing like that again.
Were in a rut at the moment, but always remember that form is temporary and class is permanent. Rafa won La Liga twice with Valencia who where nothing when he took over, he’s won numerous trophies for us, and forgetting this season has taken us closer to winning the prem than any other manager we have had.
Appoiting mourinho would be absolutley ridiculous. Given our finances our very limited until the new stadium finally arrives, if we were to replace rafa we would need someone with a proven track record of shopping to a budget, Jose is one manager who cannot do that. Yeah he has a good track record but look at what he spent at chelski. Not sure what spent at inter, but they had a far better squad when he took over than we did: Maxwel, Maicon, Ibrahimovic (I could go on and on and on).
As suggested above, i agree that roy hodgson would be a more suitable candidate. Has worked wonders at fulham, without splunking wads of cash everywhere. Id prefer martin O’neill, but would be amased if he left Villa for us.
Having said that Id still go with rafa. He is assembling a dynasty at the club, and I for one(hopefully not the only one) want to see him given the chance to show what his young signings can do.
Regardless of all the BS at the moment, serious respect has to go to the fans who were chanting las night even when we were down. Serious dusrespect to those booing tho. The players no they were sh*t, they no improvements are needed, but with booing them they feel the pressure every time they play, they need our support get through all this. I know its hard, i was there las night and i completley agree it was an awful showing, but we need to be patient. Booing our own players gets reported as much as the result, what potential signings want to join a club whos own fans boo them? I certainly wouldnt.
Peace Out.
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baggins09 - January 14th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
i like roy hodgson but can’t see him pulling in the big names and with our current situation i think we need a big name like mourinho, hiddink, capello to ensure and potential signings that we mean buisness and no disrespect to hodgson who i think has done a good job with fulham and could do a good job for us too but i can’t see anyone wanting to play for an relatively unknown gaffa who sounds like he’s off a cockney meat market.
if we wasn’t getting the cash in the summer i would go for him though as i think he would get the best out our current squad, i just don’t think he’d pull the big names.
either way raffa needs to go!
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baggins09 - January 14th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
anon 12.21pm are you for real? i admit rafa is doing alot behind the scenes to better the club but he’s not doing the most important bit which is making the first team play like they want to actually be there and most importantly win some fucking games!!
fuck i’ve changed my mind just sack rafa even if it swallows up 20m of the summer kitty and put hodgson incharge now then he’s got half a season to find his feet and get the lads playing his way and still have a kitty that will dwarf any he’s ever had at fulham! by the time summer gets here people will be able to see he’s a good gaffa then won’t be so hesitant about signing
in hodgson i trust!
in rafa i mistrust!
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trav09 - January 14th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Maybe rafa would be better suited as a technical director for the club. He has tried to take on too much, to wear too many hats, and this total control has been exposed as a Nightmare. If we keep him on as technical director, surely we would be free to appoint a new Manager!
As for Gerrard leaving, even if he wanted to, I dont see the club allowing it
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Another excuse..another poor performance ? when did you last really enjoy watching Liverpool play ? maybe Man utd ? has it come to that ? raise your game get a win ! all will be fine. If it is not clear by now that Rafa is happy with players that are always under performing…it never will be ? Kuyt ,Lucas,Babel,,Riera,Degen,Insuia,Aurelio, Is anyone out there gonna tell me N’Gog is the replacement for Robbie Keane or Peter Crouch Benayoun has 5 good games a season and I have not seen anything in Aquilani that suggests he is worth £20 milliion. Please don’t say “give him time” he and the rest of the team got ragged by half team of young lads last night who play in a lower league..who are not priced at a fraction of what he paid for Aquilani.
At least now we can’t blame the 2 other superstars he signed. Voronin or Dossena
And if anyone want to defend(ha) zonal marking be my guest. Benitez has lost hte plot and it is showing.
How better are we as a team apart from Torres & Riena Carragher & Gerrard & Mascherano since Houiller was sacked ?
Take off your red rose tinted glasses and see that.. IN RAFA WE RUST
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trav09 - January 14th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
This dynasty that rafa is asembeling at liverpool, Is it only availiable for selected members to view?
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
THE CHOSEN ONE
good post PEACE OUT
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baggins09 - January 14th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
trav09 thats not a bad idea technical director he could carry on with all the stuff he’s good at behind the scenes and leave the stuff he’s shit at ie managing to a real manager not a jumped up coach!
i didn’t think lucas played bad last night i think people are overly hard on him degen played really well and if he stays fit and plays like that week in week out i’d keep him he was nowhere near match fit and still played well
i think we should bid for mcanuff he’d get straight in to our squad the way we are at the minute and he played well on both flanks, plus he’s a liverpool fan!
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trav09 - January 14th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
ITS LOOKING MORE DIRE FOR RAFA NOW: from the tele….:Whelan, who made 493 appearances for Liverpool and captained them in their 1989 FA Cup final win, believes the team now need a new direction.
The ex-Republic of Ireland international, 48, told BBC Radio Five Live: “The way Liverpool have been playing, they have not been good. They have lost 10 of the last 20 games.
“He should have gone a long time ago. They have got to do it now.
“Do they bring in someone until the end of the season? Kenny Dalglish is back at the football club. Could he do it until the end of the season and see what happens?”
I cant see rafa lasting the month
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trav09 - January 14th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
I’d prefer Guus myself, but either way, If we keep rafa as technical advisor/ director, then we only have to keep himon untill some other club tries to sign him, in the meantime we can try as Whelan says ” get a new direction”
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Topredman - January 14th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Give Rafa credit, he negotiated a brilliant contract. If he gets sacked, he gets £20m. He must be laughing inside as he can’t lose. If he stays, he’s managing a club fighting for honours (on paper anyway) and if he gets the sack, he’s feet up in Spain with a very large jug of sangria!
What is working against him is ultimately the manager gets judged on results and I can’t see Rafa’s track record this season is going to keep him in a job.
Whether you are pro or anti Rafa, the results are speaking for themselves.
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baggins09 - January 14th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
i like gus and his record speaks for its self so i’d be happy for him to come, but at the same time i’d take hodgson too we need someone who can the players playing and beleiving again so for me it would be any of the following would be my first choice hiddink, mourihno or capello as they would have instant respect of all the players and any potential signings although capello wouldn’t be availible till after the summer or second choice hodgson who would probably have respect off all our current squad but may struggle with pulling in the big names but would at least get our squad playing together again and the added bonus he’s english!
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trav09 - January 14th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
I see s.o.s as a huge potential stopper to any new manager being appointed. Their unwavering support for rafa probably hold a lot of awater with the septic tanks who will be scared of angering some fans by sacking rafa.
I just cant understand how any Liverpool fan can support having rafa remain as manager.
Its just baffeling, loyalty is one thing but, the fans dont owe rafa anything, he is paid very very well to do a job, and he STINKS at it.
I guess all i can say is.. IN RAFA WE MIS-TRUST
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
stupid rat faced benayoun gave away the penalty
sell that ugly rat face
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baggins09 - January 14th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
i don’t think it’s s.o.s stopping the yanks sacking rafa i think think because of the season we had last year he probably got a decent sacking clause in his contract and the yanks don’t want to cough up i don’t think they are too bothered what fans think or they’d have fucked off by now, its all about the money!
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crockyred - January 14th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
I wouldnt be suprised if stevie goes looking at last nite there is a serious problem in the camp , they all look like they carnt be arsed playing for benitez , my personal feelings are that he has lost the players respect , there is no motavation and thats down to rafa , problem is if we fuck him off who in there right mind would come to liverpool in the state that it is in now, no money to spend with two owners who consistantly squable and lie , I have watched liverpool for 40 years and I really fear for there future , unless there is some sort of miracle we will finish mid table …………………………………………
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baggins09 - January 14th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
sorry that should say ‘i think that because’ not ‘i think think because’
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Sack Rafa, get Mourinho, everyone is happy.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
why the hell are you all talking crap be realistic benitez has to go so do the owners benitez does not care what happens to liverpool its his job he just cares about his healthy wage, first they will not sack him as if they did the new manager would want money to spend and with benitez he does not care because he is with the owners trying to ruin the club i dont think benitez will go and i can swer my life on it because once hes under pressure he puts togeather a win and then its back to normal everyone has trust in him benitez is clever with mind games and will ruin liverpool wich will mean gerrard and torres both leaving. he stated that they would have to sell gerrard and torres if they didnt get fourth now why has he said that when not long ago he said that fourth place is a gurantee he is oviously thinking they wont get it so it would be nice if he walked but as i said why would he hes living off a heathly wage and the owners dpnt mind his company. sorry i am a liverpool fan and i can see us finish 6th in the league gerrard and torres to leave with many others and benite still at liverpool and we change to an ordanry club
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
the players dont look up to it…
rafa has never been a great man manager …look at way he treated and handled alonso…keane….
watching him try to blame the ref for last nights result made me so angry is he seriously that deleuded!! Reading created more and played their hearts out….they had width and pace to their game we did not it was glaringly obvious for anyone watching who was the better team overall.
if Rafa cant gee the players up for the one bit of silverware we had a chance in….then he needs to blame himself and the players not the ref. it was a penalty. the few decent players we have are all underperforming…..as a club we have to ask why that is….
if he finishes outside the top 4…hes a gonner
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
The team is good and the players are decent. Most of our present problems come from our defence. Surely its time for Insua to suck the bench and get Aurellio back in the left side. Most of our problems occur because everyone is trying to cover when Insua gets out of position. I did not like Lucas but he (i have to say) is improving. Put Stevie back in the middle, make Strikers be strikers, put Kyut up front where he belongs, Benni behind the front two, get Aquilliani up to premiership tempo. Rafa needs to be able to recognise and change tatics when things go wrong! My faith in Rafa is wearing thin, but we must allow him at least till the end of the season.
Since we will have money in summer get the remaining done: Chamkh, Menez and look at getting Guusy!
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
LEAGUE TITLE (OUT)
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE( OUT)
F.A CUP (OUT)
CARLING CUP (OUT)
Results don’t lie ?
RAFA (OUT)
Happy New Year
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colden - January 14th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Why do people quote the media who are trying to stir up unrest by putting their own spin on a story?
anonymous – January 14th, 2010 at 1:30 pm – you say that Rafa “…stated that they would have to sell gerrard and torres if they didnt get fourth…”. In fact what Rafa said was ““We would have a conversation and decide what’s the best for the club. I’ve said before I want to keep the best players here because that means we can be closer to the top four. They are the most important. We gave extensions to players because we want to keep the squad together.”
The press got hold of this & put their interpretation that we were selling Gerrard & Torres if we don’t get 4th!!
As a reminder, Purslow said yesterday, “The idea that we would ever wish to sell our top players is completely against the interests of this club.
In fact our key priority since the summer has been to secure our senior players on long term improved contracts, because we remain of the view that our starting eleven compares with anybody in the Premier League.
Our plan – and what we are working on – is to try and improve the team; not to be so stupid as to reduce the quality of our squad.”
Do the above quotes give you the impression that we are about to sell G&T?
Lesson is, don’t believe everything you read in the media. Do a bit of your own research first before panicking.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
so if its just the defence thats to blame so says anon….look at evidence
sold riise…quality player bought a fat iti and lost millions….plays insua who altough talented is not an improvement on riise. let sami go when he wanted to stay! and on current form would be playing right now!!…
deggen on plus actually looked like a player last night…play him get johnson on the right wing when hes fit…kuyt needs to be benched he looks clumsy and so bad as a winger
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Aquilana looks like he would do a great job further up the field. He isn’t a defensive midfielder at all. I don’t think Rafa will succeed in trying to turn him into a Xabi clone.
I’d like to see either Mascherano or Lucas playing alongside Gerrard in midfield and Aquilani playing infront of them. Gerrard could get forward when we have possession, create problems with late runs.
Worth a try for a run of games anyway.
Mark
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Reds Lewis - January 14th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
lol, look how many of the brigade have turned….the cards are in our hands now.
Rafa has had his chance to turn the season round by getting some convincing wins against the likes of aston villa, Portsmouth, Wolves and the reading encounters in the F.A Cup.
None of which he has taken. We only beat wolves 2-0 after they went a man down (and rather harshly)…we lost 2-0 to portsmouth, bottom of the league, and then we narrowly beat aston villa thanks to a glimpse of brilliance from our talisman yet tired striker fernando torres….then we went on to lose against Reading in a replay at HOME. It’s not good enough…. why is Rafa still at the helm? If this was Chelsea or Arsenal…or probably any top 6/8 team then this wouldnt be accepted….
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baggins09 - January 14th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
aquilani looks better further forward because he’s an attacking mid, similar to stevie and will probably be his replacement within the next 2 seasons.
with our current squad we should play 4-1-2-3 with masch holding gerrard and aquilani both playing attacking mid roles, torres as cf with yossi lw and maxi rw but interchanging
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Reds Lewis - January 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Letting Sami hyppia go was A MASSIVE mistake, he never shouldve been allowed to go..he didn’t want to go…there would have been no need for kyrgiakos to arrive for 1.5 million if we hadnt got rid of Sami who was without doubt one of the best defenders ever to have put on a Liverpool Shirt.
Insua is a decent player but AURELIO….is sitting on the dam bench and he is a much better defender. Sure he doesnt go forward much but really he shouldnt have to because thats a wingers job…not a defenders. Aurelios set peice delivery is also very good….he should be at LB instead of Insua.
But I honestly dont think that the team is going to start performing again under Rafa.. sometimes we just need a change of personel to get the players motivated again….it happens.
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spike - January 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
gimme super mario and eto in exchange
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
wake up everybody, just by sacking Rafa is not gonna make things better…
firstly, where would we find 20million to pay him.
secondly where would we find the money to get rid of all the backroom staff
thirdly by bringing in another manager doesn’t mean he will have money to spend
fourthly if we were to get Mourinio to come in, we would need to compensate Inter Milan
Fifth point where will the club find minimum 50 million without selling players for new manager to improve the team- especially mourinio only buys big as his record shows at chelsea and inter. So if he gets the same deal what rafa has for transfers, then it will mean same shit just different manager.
we need at least 100 million minimum to better what we have with Rafa.
so i say the club would be better giving Rafa 30 to 50 mill in the summer without the pressure of having to sell. that way the first team players like Benayoun, Lucas, Carragher, Kuyt and Ngog would be squad players rather than first team starters…
Last nites game reflects that the players that were missing last nite were BEST FIVE PLAYERS THAT LIVERPOOL HAVE..
MASCHERANO
GERRARD
TORRES
REINA
JOHNSON
plus MAXI RODRIGUEZ to look forward to..
take the best five players out of any team and see if they play the same..
Just look at Man U. how good they have been since some of their best players were missing..
So give Rafa till end of season and if things don’t improve he’ll walk himself…
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Retryboy - January 14th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Now most people have finally seen what some of us have said all season. Surprised it was this game that turned the brigade, hardly the most inept of this season’s nightmares in fact there was more fight in the players than in most of the other games and hardly any identifiable blatant mistakes that we always see with rafa. At least people can finally see the mess rafa has put us in and the only way out of it is to get rid of him. As soon as his influence over the players is gone performances and results will turn. Give the job to Kenny for now and in the summer look at the options then. People who suggest hiddink should know he has said before he only wants a couple more years of management. Not what we need for a long term project. Rafa will leave us with a great squad and some amazing young talent. A good man manager will get this squad and win the title with it. To keep the squad together we have to be in next years champions league. Get rafa out so we can make that happen.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
I worry about so called Fans who think their opinion is worth clogging up the internet,yeah Liverpool are playing Bad,but its not just one player LFC are a team,
and all this shit about its all rafa fault, some you guys have short memories are you are just manc’s stirring, because rafa is a top manager,you are fan when you stand by your team, in the good and bad times,when shanks was our main man
I doubt any of you so called supporters were even alive,but even he had problems.Rafa’s been here 5 years in LFC history thats not a long time
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Numerous trophies???Do you mean two(2)???!
4 years without a trophy and a eurpoa league place is below standard therefore you have to go Rafa mate
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Retryboy - January 14th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
What have we lost now 12 games all competitions?? 10 out of the last 20?? Everybody had been patient enough months ago to fulfil loyalty. He has managed one 2nd place in 5 cracks at the league, plays the worst football in Lfc history at times.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
season is fucked for now sure
latest injury update
Liverpool today revealed the extent of the injuries sustained by Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard and Yossi Benayoun against Reading last night.
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A Club spokesman said: “Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres both underwent scans earlier today after coming off in the FA Cup tie against Reading.
“Steven has a hamstring strain and will be out for a fortnight, while Fernando has torn a cartilage in his right knee. The injury will require surgery and he is expected to be sidelined for six weeks.
“Yossi Benayoun also suffered a fractured rib in the game and will be unavailable for between three and four weeks.”
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
rafa will get the team together and we’ll stuff spurs wait and see.have faith YNWA
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nicklovesliverpool - January 14th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
it was such a poor game against Reading i think i have finally lost all faith in Benitez until he leaves we could be stuck going no where.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
The only reason banitez isn’t getting the sack is because torres would quit Liverpool
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
we love you benayoun
we love you benayoun
with a face like that
you know you should be glad
Beatles’ she loves you
stop dissing benayoun ok
he’s ugly but still one of our best players
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RyanO - January 14th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
So, finally Torres has been done in by the rough treatment that’s been allowed against him all season. Needless to say, the fucking refereeing has not exactly helped our cause this season and it has been a HUGE factor amongst all of the others. Fucking beachballs and no calls…
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
After watching Liverpool’s dismal FA Cup defeat against Reading last night, the first thing that crossed my mind was not “oh no, we’re out the cup” or “my god, we were awful” or “Rafa out.” No, I actually thought “the media are going to have a field day with this.”
Why am I bothered about the media? Well, the sheer ignorance and stupidity of some football journalism today is enough to bring me to tears.
The hyperbolic headlines, the knee-jerk reactions and obvious agenda against Liverpool’s manager, Rafa Benitez, is swallowed up readily by fans who are stupid enough to believe it all.
Yet, more than ever, the team needs our support. The manager needs our support.
Let me ask you this, Liverpool fans, if Rafa goes, who will take his place?
Jose Mourinho? Guus Huddink? Steve Coppell?
Would any of those (even Steve Coppell) go to a club where there is zero to spend on transfers and two absolute idiots in ownership?
No.
Do the owners have enough money to buy Rafa out of his contract?
No.
The only way the anti-Rafa brigade can get their wish is if he resigns. I wish he would for his own sake because I feel sorry for him and all he has to put up with. He is a good man and a good manager, but that isn’t enough for fans nowadays.
He is the best manager we can currently hope for, and I am supporting him and the team 100 percent.
If other fans want instant (yet not guaranteed) success, star names, and a new manager every year, I wish they would go and support Chelsea.
Last night was awful, don’t get me wrong. It was painful and horrible to watch, but it happens. To put things in perspective, however, I’m going to deal in some FACTS, Rafa-style:
* The season is not over. In fact, it could still turn out to be much better than last season. A good run in the Europa League and the Premiership and the last three horrible months will be forgotten about.
* This is virtually the same team that blew away the likes of Real Madrid and Manchester United last season and finished top scorers in the league. Minus Alonso and Arbeloa, step in Aquilani, Johnson, and Rodriguez.
* Gerrard and Torres have been playing with injuries all season. They are playing through their pain for us, yet you still get fans saying “oh Gerrard looks as if he can’t be bothered.”
* Lucas has been our best player this season. He was outstanding last night and broke up a lot of Reading’s attacks.
* We seriously lack pace in defence, but a more consistent back line though would address this, as with last season.
* We can’t take a corner or free kick to save our lives and need to be practised. (Maybe Maxi Rodriguez knows?)
* Aquilani looks class and is adjusting well.
* The players are seriously lacking confidence and composure in front of goal. It happened last season (remember when Gerrard hit the post against Middlesbrough in stoppage time?). It’s a phase they will get through. Just think, last night…if Aquilani’s header had gone in, if Agger’s thumping volley had gone in..Benayoun hadn’t given the penalty way and missed the one on one with the keeper…..we would have gone on to win comfortably.
* We have been struck with injuries since the beginning of the season, resulting in an unsettled defence which has been leaking goals. Hang on, isn’t that the case at Manchester United too?
* We are not a two-man team. Our fluency at the beginning of the second half was brilliant to watch, and it was without Gerrard and Torres. Again, all that was lacking was composure in front of goal.
* Rafa has made some poor signings and every fan knows that (Voronin, Dossena and Keane). Unlike Houllier though, he’s not afraid to offload them (Voronin, Dossena and Keane). By the way, Robbie Keane is doing a good job of warming the Spurs bench, isn’t he?
So, beat me down if you like, say i’m crazy and deluded, but I thought I would offer a different perspective as opposed to the “Liverpool are rubbish” and “Rafa Out” drivel that is currently doing the rounds.
I’m going to support my team and manager and no tabloid or ‘fan’ can make me do otherwise.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
we need silva mata villa to contest the top four spots and alonsos departure doesn’t help and finally you can’t get rid of a Spanish player and replace him with a player from a mother nationality Spain is the best country you can get player wise if you are going to get rid of a top Spanish player atleast bring in another top Spanish player
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RyanO - January 14th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Can anyone explain how it is that our best are always injured while our shit is always running out there? Fucking Reading, Pompey and Fiorentina for fucksakes, I can’t stand this anymore. Worst season of my life.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
come RAFA we know you;ll turn it around…thanks for ISTANBUL
YNWA, FUK ALL THE PRKS WITH THEIR HEADS STUCK UP THEIR ARSSES…always blaming rafa, last nite every time carrager got the ball, all he did was long ball up and give it back to reading, made awful decisions all season including last nite. YET anti Rafa media said he was the best player for Liverpool. Yet Lucas was everywhere last nite, broke up their attacks and set three attacks up including the through ball for Benayoun’s one on one with the keeper, YET WAS LABELED AS NOT BEING GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY FOR LIVERPOOL.
So if Lucas is not good enough for liverpool then why is Carrager good enough…Is Carra bigger than the club but everybody else including Rafa isn’t.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
kermit
torres is out for six weeks, no surprise there then kuyt and ngog up front maxi right, jesus this is all so predictable
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
if Rafa is to blame then senior players like Carrager should be blamed 2
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
LFC for life
IN RAFA WE TRUST
DONT FORGET fergie was almost sacked at manure and look what that
naaierr has done
so chill and let life take place and at the end we can judge RAFA
YNWA
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
why don’t we take a step back and see that the mancs only had a few defenders missing against Leeds and they got a spanking from Leeds, who are division 1, yet the media hardly mentioned them or attacked em the way we are being attacked..How many games they have got away with, when in reality they should have lost, but if the media criticize the Mancs, the fergie will not give em an interview
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
the bad weather at anfield is all rafa’s fault
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
if you say robbie is doing so well then it takes a pretty bad manager to get rid of a player like that and here is a list of some other good players he has got rid of ( crouch, alonso, and one of them can make the first team for real madrid and is one of the best defencive midfielders in the wourld well done banites you are well and truly fucking up Liverpool football club the only way banites can radeam that move is getting villa or silva
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
we will come good, Rafa is the man
YNWA
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
crouch, alonso forced to leave…………same old story repeated over and over again……Crouch wanted to play every game, the way he is at the moment cos he didn’t want to be on the bench. As for Alonso, read his statements, he wanted to go and when a club like madrid come’s in ups your wage by doubling it, am sure you ain’t goona say no…
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
BANITEZ SORT THIS SHIT OUT NOW YUO ARE A MANAGER OF A REALLY TOP CLUB YOU ARE UNDERCHIEVING. WE SHOULD BE FOURTH WRITE NOW
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RyanO - January 14th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Anon @ 4:48 – The press is not killing United for that loss because they have WON EVERY FUCKING TROPHY OUT THERE over the past decade! Why compare us to a team that is in for every trophy, every year, but for the ones they don’t care about (FA Cup)?
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
i know this might sound stupid but in the summer we will have 20mill for the sponorship and players such as babel, mascherano, riera, skrtel will all be leaving so i could really see villa and silva/mata coming to us in the summer.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
READ ANOTHER STORY ALONSO WANTID TO LEAVE BECAUSE BANITES WAS TREATING HIM SO BAD WHO ON THIS PLANET WOULD CHOOSE LUCAS OTHER ALONSO TO START AND IF HE CAN GET RID OF A TOP SPANISH PLAYER LIKE HIM WHO NEXT TORRES I AM TELLING YOU BANITES IS GOING TO RUIN THIS CLUB.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
alonso wanted to leave cause he wanted to replace alonso(who had one good season and was crap for the rest) with barry. then alonso had the season of his life then decided to leave. its not rafa fault that alonso wanted to leave, he was only trying to replace alonso who was playing crap with a player who was playing really well.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Insua OUT! Fabio in! Rafa can stay, but his previous cup win credit is at an all time low! Come on Rafa sort out the defence and the improvements will follow, Insua IS the weak link and he has had more than enough games to prove himself. Deggan had his best game by miles and should have stayed on. Lucas is improving and had a decent game (yeah thats right I said it!).
Now we have big worries with the new injuries, will Babel get some real game time? He looked a bit over excited last night! Rotate the positions of Babel, Dirk and Maxi! Aquiliani needs to get up to Premireship pace, lost the ball in vital situations but will improve. (although we want the improvements sooner rather than later) The season is not over yet and a good run in the Europa and in the Premiership we just need to keep winning! I know we are all in pain at the mo, but come on all YNWA!
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
THE REASON GERRARD AND TORRES ARE PLAYING SO BAD IS BECAUSE OF ALONSOS DEPARTURE THERE IS NO SPACE FOR THEM ON THE PITCH BANITES GET ALONSO BACK HE IS STILL INTO LIVERPOOL THE AMOUNT OF COMMENTS HE IS POSTING ABOUT LIVERPOOL LOADS INFACT SIGHN THE HOLE SPANISH TEAM BEST NATIONALITY IN THE WOURLD TOP CLASS TEAM
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Come on all! Have faith! Even though we would love to, we cant win everything! Yes Rafa’s tatics suck at the moment, Insua needs to sit down for a few games and we desparately need Fabio in his place! We need to take more shots in the final third and stop trying to pass our lives away in the box! Aquilani has a great shot so he needs to step up and show us! Hopefully Maxi will give us more creativity and get the best out of Aquilani! We are without Gerrard, Torres and Benni for upto 6 weeks, so the rest have to step up! Come on Rafa play strikers in the right place (Not on the wings). We can still have a good run in the league and if we win the Europa everyone will singing your praises! Come on supporters we need to stick together and will our team on (as tiring as it is getting) then the success will be sweeter for us all!
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
ALONSO IS THE BEST PASSER IN THE WORLD I CAN SEE THAT FITTING INTO ANY TEAM I DO NOT CALL A PLAYER LIKE THAT CRAP INFACT I THINK ALONSO IS BETTER THAN GERRARD IN MY OPINION ITS WEIRD HOW ALONSO LEAVES AND THE HOLE TEAM IS PLAYING BAD NOT EVEN TORRES ITS RIDICULOUS
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
I would love to have faith, but when we field our strongest lineup and lose to reading you know we are screwed. Now we don’t have gerrard, torres or benayoun for an extended period of time who were our best players this year.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
YOU THINK GETTING RID OF MASCHERANO IS A GOOD IDEA IM SORRY IT REALLY ISNT
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
COME ON GUYS EVERY ONE OTHER THE HOLE COUNTRY URGE BANITES TO SIGHN ALONSO LIVERPOOL TEAM DO READ THIS YOU NO COME ON GUYS LETS GET ALONSO BACK TO ANFIELD THEN I WILL HAVE FAITH ROCK ON PASS MASTER
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Topredman - January 14th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
It is all pretty pointless arguing as to whether Rafa deserves to stay or should be sacked. The results are doing the talking for everyone. The Board will determine Rafa’s future.
Carra summed up the current situation brilliantly by saying we are not playing well enough. The players need to take a good look at themselves. He is absolutely right. There are too many players on the pitch, that when the moment comes to be decisive, they fuck it up. They play the wrong pass, they look for the nearest player to pass to, they get a tackle in and have no idea what to do with the ball, they are 6 yards out and miss headers, they try and be too intricate around the box, they pass out wide when they should be going direct to goal, they can’t get crosses in, they waste corners and free kicks……the list goes on. And please don’t say these are players that Rafa bought and turn it back on him. These are players that last season were doing well and suddenly they look a sack of shit. They do need to take a look at themselves and start doing the simple things right and then maybe we’ll start winning some fucking matches!
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Come on guys let’s stop Manchester city if they finish in the top four they will steel every good player on the planet we will all be doomed then
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED.
YA was very upset (and a bit busy ) but “another hope sinks to the bottom of
PACIFIC with all the survivors on the verge of being killed by the FANS”.
NO FA CUP this year for us ……..we could not do what CHELSEA did last
season…………………………..
U know what “i get pissed of when i hear the word ‘last season’ ……………”
U ALL KNOW WHY.
RyanO – January 14th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
THAT is what u call BAD season BAD luck………………………………………………..
though ANONS starting from “anonymous – January 14th, 2010 at 4:42 pm ”
posted some sense ……….
its not all rafa’s fault .yet . .yet again its the players who took us down ……..
he played the best team he could but if
BENNY has decided not to score
and concede penalities ,
CARRAGHER to gives the long range ball to the oppsn
Torres and stevie get injured and
INSUA well he doesn’t decides it happens
with him(a bright youngsters who belongs to bench for a month least).
AQUILLIANI has DONE A CONTRACT to get tired after every 45 minutes of
play AND believe me its in his contract .
he looked fine but PASSINGhas enormous scope of improvement……………….
SO AM I BLAMING THE PLAYER ….FUCKING YES……………
ONE PLAYER PLAYES SHIT ITS HIS BAD THEY
TWO PLAYER PLAYES SHIT IS BAD CHEMISTRY
THE TEAM PLAYS SHIT ITS BAD COACH (FUCK U IF U SAY THAT).
WHAT do you think another coach will come and change everything ……
THEY PLAYERS ARE PLAYING SHIT AND ITS A FACT MORE TRUE THAN
RAFA BEING A SHIT MANAGER.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
ALONSO that is why they were playing well Liverpool have lost an inportant Spanish player watch. Him play for real madrid then you will balieve me
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
jamie carragher is a joke he does nothing but hoof the ball in the other half of the pitch he,s utterly useless. and would it really be that bad if gerrard was sold? i mean really last night he was shocking,
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Ash T - January 14th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Torpredman is right, these are the players rafa as brought and these are the players that came second last season. I would give rafa the rest of the season and see who he is going to try and sign to improve us. Players such as skrtel, riera, babel, kyrgiakos, degen and even kuyt this season are just not good enough, they should all be sold. players such as ngog, insua, lucas are all young and will improve. i am not going to mention players that we should sign, but we really need to strenghen all the defence, need to get a left mid and maybe a right mid depending on how maxi plays this season, and we need a proven prem striker to play with or with out torres.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
“Carra summed up the current situation brilliantly by saying we are not playing well enough”
ITS NOT US CARRA ITS YOU, ITS THE PLAYERS WHO SHOULD TELL THEMSELVES HOW THEY ARE PLAYING ……………………….
WE KNOW HOW U ALL ARE PLAYING………….
RATHER THAN SUMMING UP THE SIUATION BRILLIANTLY
FOR GOD’S SAKE PLAY BRILLIANTLY
LAST COMMENT
ONE PLAYER PLAYES SHIT ITS HIS BAD DAY (NOT THEY) (RAFA’S FAULT)
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED.
anonymous – January 14th, 2010 at 5:54 pm WAS ME
AGAIN RAFA’S FAULT.
HOW MANY FAULTS CAN ONE MAN MAKE ?
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
The head gasket has just gone on my car. i blame Rafa Benitez because I drove it too fast last night in anger at the teams performance. I shall be sending him the bill.
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Retryboy - January 14th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Gerrard and torres needed operations months ago. Rafa should have sent them for these ops when we had the international break. They would have both been missing for 6 weeks max for us then fully fit. A lot of us said that at the time. The league is the priority don’t understand why they were needed or risked last night. Even if they had come through the game ok would they have held up to the 3 big games in a week that could decide whether we have champions league football next season? I don’t think so. Now they are out for 2 and 4 weeks again. For the time they would have missed from having the ops when they were first injured they have missed more already and when they have played they have had pain killing injections and not been free in their movement. Forcing them back all the time, never rotating even for the dead rubber against fiorentina shows no faith in the squad rafa has built himself. When a manager proves time and time again he doesn’t believe in the players how are they expected to perform or believe in themselves or him? Everyone again scapegoats carragher and sings lucas praises what a joke.
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Liverpool FC Danny - January 14th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
We should get Pep Guardiola at the end of the season. He is refusing to sign a new contract and is clearly an amazing young manager who plays beautiful football and uses the youth-has few flaws. WOULD LOVE THE CHALLENGE!!!!!
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Sell GERRARD he is playing shit 40 MILLION you are joking me
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
forget xabi real won’t sell and 20m to sack rafa no way just put him on gardening leave till he gets another job keep paying his wages if he gets another job we don’t have to pay him that’s how it works give kenny the job till may would cost nothing see if he can do better if he can lets go with the king if not it can’t be any worse can it
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
How old is GERRARD he is playing like he is 40 RETIRE
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
retry the op suggestion to torres before was for hernia or groin and this operation is for knee
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Gerrard is 56, he’s just kept himself in good shape LOL
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
UNAI EMERY then he will bring silva villa mata to Liverpool then we will win every cup in the wourld
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Rafa has had his time and lots of money which he wasted on a lot of donkeys
the only reason he did so well was from the team he inherited. the guy is so negative with his tatics it beggers belief, when he goes make sure he takes the Yanks with him
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
anonymous – January 14th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Oi! Once would have been enough. My tea’s gone cold while I scroll down the page to the next comment.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Silva please join.please you are my king
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Insua out
Carrager out
Kuyt out
come Rafa these are the problems
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Donavan Ried - January 14th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
How about a coalition of King Kenny and Paul Jewel till the end of the season?…. What better manager could you want but a scouser?… Jewel is not a bad manager, might be able to step up to the plate
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
anon 3;51 you talk utter bollox . 5 years to build a squad . and look what we have . and comparing nutjob rafa to sir no lord shanks is a fuckin discrase . you may ov been alive when shanks was manager but i bet you dident need glasses then either did you . what a twat you are no wonder you are anon i wished i new how to log on proper so you knew who i was . get some glasses
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
anonymous – January 14th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
i’m glad theres still some sensible supporters out there like yourself that don’t jump on the bandwagon any chance they get.
Nows the time the team needs us most,save your sack rafa,sell every player,sack the board,get rid of the backroom staff, until the summer at least,i only wish i could go to the games and show the team the support it needs..YNWA
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Were we really so great last year? The difference is that last year, we came back, fought to the last minute, a true spirit and passion for the game which attracted me to Liverpool in the first place. Even last year, my friends and I would joke, when watching nonLFC games and seeing two teammates staring blankly at a loose ball but neither moving towards it–ah, having a Liverpool moment. The disorganization was evident last year, (and the year before) even with Alonzo. The sale of Alonzo demoralized the team, took away the fighting spirit of the team, which is very absent this year. Disorganization — Rafa’s fault. Demoralization –Rafa’s fault. Playing people out of their best position –Rafa’s fault. Aquailani should have been introduced sooner, now it will take him longer to adjust –Rafa’s fault. –Aquilani is just another example –in a long line–of great talent not being directed or used well by Rafa. A great manager turns average or great talent into a legend for the team. Rafa instead rewards hard work with no talent.
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redrob - January 14th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
i say we give rafa three weeks look for a responce. he should be fealing distraught with his teams performance if a player is not playing well then he should drop them.
aquilani has not shown us he is the player we hopped, but now with no torres, gerrard or benayoun we should be pushed further up field.
lucas is not playing as well as he was at the start of the season. yes he can tackle, but other than that not a lot more.mascherano cazn hold the midfield, and aquilani maxi and on other poss give babel a chance. put him in the shop window so to speak.. go 4.4.2. with pecheko and kuyt( shit in right) as a strike pair.
auralio on left, with degan on right. carra should not go right back maybe
the injury crisis could be a silver linning.
raina
degan carra,agger,auralio
maxi, aquilani, mash,babel
pecheko/kuyt ngog.
this is a team capable without torres and gerrard. but rafa wont.
time to fucking pull a finger out.
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redrob - January 14th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
alonso not alonzo.
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Aquaman - January 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
redrob: I disagree about Aquilani. Remember that he came from possibly the slowest and most defensive league in the world. He also hasn’t played any football for around a year. He was never going to be an instant fix. But from what I’ve seen (especially in the Reading 2nd half) he’s class. Genuine quality. Rafa has constantly begged that we be patient with him, and I will be.
Also, how many chances does Babel need? Granted he looked like one of the only players who actually wanted to play (what a turnaround) but he was never open to receive a pass, never sprinted (as far as I could tell, and I was eager to see how they’d cope with his pace up front so I watched for it), and he has the composure of a diabetic, ADD suffering, american 3 year old on cocaine.
Looking up I note that you didn’t want him as a striker so I take all that back. But I leave it here for anyone else who reckons that Babel is the answer to all our prayers up front. Simply, he’s not.
I like that starting lineup though. Still has some punch even without G&T. Pity they don’t play like it.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
redrob,sadly mascherano might not make the spurs game with a knee injury what would your line up be without him.
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anonymous - January 14th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
This is getting ridiculous! Was it dissapointing to get knocked out of the FA cup at home to Reading?… of course it was and we do (as the manager has said) need to improve, however, talk of sacking the manager is daft.
We are talking about a manager who got us 86 points (and second place) in the Premier League… JUST LAST SEASON (against clubs with a massive financial advantage), a manager who has already won us the Champions league, FA Cup, Super Cup and who has taken us to another Champions League final, other semi finals and brought the likes of Torres, Agger, Reina and Glen Johnson to the club. He won 2 La Liga titles in 3 years + The Uefa Cup. He is a decent, bloke unlike Jose Mourinho (touted as a possible replacement which would be ridiculous given that Rafa outsmarted him in 2 Champions League semi-finals!).
Short sighted fans with short memories need to stop listening to the likes of so called pundits (who have not managed so much as a pub side) and ex-players (such as Andy Gray, Graeme ‘would he like to compare managerial medal collections with Benitez… I’m guessing not!’ Souness and Ronnie Whelan) and have some respect (and patience) for a proven manager who twice turned down the chance to manage Real Madrid to stay at Liverpool with almost no money to spend!
The constant critisism of him selling Alonso is beyond moronic considering that the player had just one year left on his contract and was refusing to sign another one! The best he could do was get the price (which he did!) and get the best possible replacement. Give Aquilani achance to get used to English football (Alonso wasn’t lighting up the pitch in his first couple of months!!) and we’ll have a good player plus 10 million profit.
Constantly comparing to the old days of previous managers also doesn’t serve much purpose. Shankly didn’t have to compete with the unlimited wealth of Russian and Arab billionaire owned opposition clubs!
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dibbler - January 15th, 2010 at 12:32 am
To the anon tit who too much time on his hands if we sack him who would could replace him with and dont say mourinho he wont go anywhere he cant spend 150m plus if you think the spotlight is on us now it would be treble what it is.
And to the other idiots saying about mark hughes go and wash your mouth out any more of that and you will be going straight to hell.
We need to judge at the end of the season its as simple as that and a few players need to remember:-
WE PLAY IN RED!
YNWA.
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Donavan Ried - January 15th, 2010 at 12:53 am
anonymous – January 14th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
“This is getting ridiculous! Was it dissapointing to get knocked out of the FA cup at home to Reading?… of course it was and we do (as the manager has said) need to improve, however, talk of sacking the manager is daft.
We are talking about a manager who got us 86 points (and second place) in the Premier League…” ……… Had he been more adventurous with his team selection, tactics and style of player we would have won it…… And he has still not learnt form that….. Get rid
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 5:22 am
El Nino, Babel, come to Chelsea
FWD: 1. Pato
2. Villa, Torres, Pazzini, Dzeko, Gomis, Zarate or Nilmar
3. Mata, Krasic or Babel
4. Lukaku or Joselu
MID: 1. Franck Ribery or Bastian Schweinsteiger
2. David Silva
3. Marek Hamsik, Rafael van der Vaart, Angel di Maria or Alan Dzagoev (preferably two)
4. Sandro, Neymar, Alex Teixeira, Miralem Pjanic or Lucas Piazon
DEF: 1. Darijo Srna
2. Juan Manuel Vargas
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rassell - January 15th, 2010 at 5:23 am
Time for raffa to go and now for the big one you all are going to hate me for this but yes i am going to say it anyway Gerrad to go as well and if we can get 40mil for a 29/30 year old i say hell yes….moaning, sulking captain i think has knocked the morales of the team just as much as the manager himself has….
I love gerrad and he has been one hell of a player for us but i think he needs to go and have a fresh start elsewhere for his sake and ours….
Hidink would be brilliant for us and i hope he comes.
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rassell - January 15th, 2010 at 5:26 am
torres is really worrying me too the guy spend more time in the rehab then on the pitch….i don’t know if we should cash in on him too or not?????
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 8:23 am
please RAFA resign, we can get daglish for now and then ask Mourino to come in next season…..
when RAFA leaves he should take Lucas and Babel with him……
RAFA We HAVE NOW LOST PATIENCE
our records are all about to stumble………please do the right thing and walk
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Hiddink or Harry Redknapp are the only two who can rescue the Reds. They both have an acumen for the offensive side of the game. Harry would buy English lads. HOw many blanks can we withstand from Lucas, Kuyt, etc.?
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nicklovesliverpool - January 15th, 2010 at 8:37 am
well it is clear there is no silverware to win are best player are fucked Benitez is a tactical baboon there is only 1 solution Benitez leaving and it wont happen because the owners don’t seem to give a shit and Benitez is nice and stubborn to leave the club. thus ruining the club. i wonder if Man united gave him some money.
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nicklovesliverpool - January 15th, 2010 at 8:40 am
by the way if your wondering why Torres is going through such a bad patch it isn’t him personally i think it is to do with the position Benitez is having play more of a wing role does anyone agree with me because when i watched the last few games it is what i gathered if not he is going through a bad patch.
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 9:07 am
kermit
i am resigning as a liverpool supporter until benitez is removed. i cannot support this team under him any longer. i think surely 10 loses in twnety and dumped out of the cup to readinfg , this must be it, they have to sack him now and this morning i read his job is safe on the bbc website , and so i resign, and i urge all fans to boycott liverpool until some changes are made and the power of the fanbase is felt.
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 9:09 am
the owners need to know what the fans feel , the future of the club is in the fans hands , thats where the real power is.
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 9:11 am
tporres isnt going throiugh a bad patch, he is never fit, he should have had surgery three months ago but he couldn t because rafa sold all our strikers, so we have nursed him through making him play semi foit all the time, more bullshit,
rafa out and out today
kermit
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 9:15 am
kermit, funnnny how immediately as maxi has signed torres goes for surgery, did rafa feel no one could replace kuyt on the right or what. gerrard could have played there with kuyt up front with ngog, babel could have played there.i think torres has been needed surgery for months
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Aquilani4goals - January 15th, 2010 at 11:45 am
The knives are out for Rafa Benitez following Liverpool’s shock exit from the FA Cup at the hands of Championship outfit Reading on Wednesday night. The cold hard fact (no pun intended) now facing Benitez is that the Anfield side failed to overcome the challenge of a side languishing in the bottom half of the Championship despite fielding a full-strength side up until the forced substitutions of Torres and Gerrard.
So what now for the Spaniard? Should he stay on and see out his contract at least until the end of the season and then walk if Liverpool fails to make the top four? Should Liverpool finally cut their ties with a manager who has guided the club to Champions League glory and runners-up spot in the Premier League only a season ago?
Three reasons Rafa might go:
1. FORM
Liverpool’s shocking loss of form with virtually the same group of players at his disposal since last season’s second place finish simply isn’t good enough. The Red’s pitiful exit from the Champions League group stages and difficulty in solidifying a top four finish suggests Rafa is unable to sufficiently motivate his players and may well have lost the dressing room.
Exiting the Champions League proved a severe body blow to the Spaniard as it was a tournament his teams consistently excelled in. The Spaniard’s meticulous nature on the training pitch is no longer effective in getting the best out of a group of players who continue (as a squad) to play below their abilities.
2. DISTRACTED TALISMEN
The loss in form of both Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres has proved catastrophic. Both players have proved injury-prone during the current campaign but neither of Liverpool’s talismanic players have reached the heights of last season’s performances (remember 4-1 at Old Trafford?).
Both Gerrard and Torres must surely have one eye on the upcoming World Cup and will want to be as fit as possible ahead of this summer’s tournament. Benitez will be hard pressed to get the best out of either individual if all Liverpool have to play for is a top six finish.
The remainder of the Liverpool first team squad is struggling to muster a top four challenge never mind a tilt at the title and cannot carry the burden without Torres or Gerrard in the side.
3. FINANCE
Liverpool FC is currently unable to compete financially with the top dogs in the Premier League such as Manchester United, Chelsea and now Manchester City. The emergence of Man City as a top four pretender couldn’t have come at a worse time for Benitez.
Add to that the continual boardroom bickering and recent furore over Hicks Jr.’s resignation and Liverpool continues to appear in the news for all the wrong reasons. A seemingly restricted transfer kitty has scuppered Benitez from spending big on quality international players, apart from Aquilani, but the jury is still out there.
For a club steeped in Shankly, Paisley and famed boot-room history, the continual negative headlines serve only to turn the heads of squad players and prevent potential transfer targets from considering Liverpool as a club worth signing for. In short, just when Benitez needed to flash the real cash, there is none available.
Three reasons Rafa might stay:
1. CONTRACT
Details on Benitez’s Liverpool contract suggest it will prove expensive for the Anfield hierarchy to part with their Spanish manager. Most Premier League clubs are somewhat reluctant to part with big transfer fees due to the world-wide recession and Liverpool are no
exception.
Even if Liverpool did decide to pay Benitez off, would the money owing to him impact on their immediate transfer budget?
The Spaniard is in the somewhat enviable position of knowing that irrespective of his side failing to finish in the top four his employers may decide to stick with him to avoid a costly payout. Only increased fan pressure might eventually force the board’s hand but until then Benitez could still be in charge at the beginning of next season.
2. LACK OF ALTERNATIVES
One heartening point for the beleaguered Spanish manager in his current plight is that no viable alternative is available to take his place. Guus Hiddink was mentioned on more than one occasion in the last fortnight but has since decided to move to Juventus in an effort to revitalise the ‘Grand Old Lady’ of Serie A.
Jose Mourinho is another candidate but previous spats with Liverpool while in charge of Chelsea seemingly rule out the ‘special one’. Apart from those two, only the likes of Jurgen Klinnsman, Frank Rijkaard and even Marcelo Lippi would likely be considered for the post.
Kenny Dalglish would be most Liverpool supporters’ choice but is unlikely to want to return to the rigours of club management having been away from the role for some years.
3. THE SPANISH SITUATION
The Real Madrid job is something Benitez apparently covets but the job is not available – for now. Manuel Pelligrini is doing a surprisingly decent job in the hot seat at the Bernabeau and Real look like title contenders to Barcelona this season.
Should Real fail in their quest to claim back the Primera Liga title this term then there is no doubt Pelligrini will be politely asked to step aside and Benitez’s will be one of the names on the top of Madrid’s list to take over.
Leaving Liverpool – despite their current predicament – for the soap opera of looking after Madrid’s Galactico’s may not be the most appealing of assignments when you consider the job instability that accompanies the role.
Still, Benitez would find it hard to turn down such an offer with a bottomless transfer kitty to look after but the job stability of the Madrid role is worse than any other big club in the world.
At least at Liverpool Benitez may yet be given more time. Were he in charge of Real and had embarked on the horrific run Liverpool have endured of late, you can be certain he would have been sacked by now.
Whatever happens to Rafa Benitez in the coming months the Spaniard has revitalised Liverpool after the horror show that was Gerard Houllier. Liverpool’s renowned loyalty to their managers is being severely tested right now but is a more suitable alternative available to the Anfield hierarchy?
I don’t think so and I expect Benitez to remain at the helm until at least the end of the season. Unless the pressure becomes too much for the Liverpool board then expect Benitez to remain in charge.
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Aquilani4goals - January 15th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Christian Purslow has declared that terminating Benitez’s contract is “not on the agenda” despite the Reds’ humiliating FA Cup third round exit at home to Championship side Reading on Wednesday.
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Apologies from Rafa for the poor performances too. Well, let’s see who he picks against Stoke with Torres and Gerrard out. On an ideal day, I would like to see:-
Reina
Johnson Carra Skirtel Aurelio
Mascherano
Maxi Gerrard Riera
Aquilani
Torres
Sunday will probably be:-
Reina
Carra Skirtel Agger Insua
Lucas Spearing
Maxi/Kuyt Aquilani Babel/Maxi
Ngog
Prediction? I reckon we’ll score 1, sit back and Stoke will get one back for a sleep inducing 1-1.
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baggins09 - January 15th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
babels been dropped mate so i’m guessing he’s going. with all the injuries we’ve got at the minute its hard to pick a full squad but i’d go with one of the following two
————————————————-reina—————————————-
———————–carra—————————————–agger——————–
darby/degen————————————————————————-aurelio
————————————————masch——————————————
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————————lucas———————————————aquilani————-
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————————————————–maxi——————————————–
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———————————–kuyt—————————n’gog————————–
or
—————————————————reina———————————————
——————-skrtl————————–carra————————-agger————-
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———————————-lucas————————-masch—————————-
maxi——————————————————————————————insua
—————————————————aquilani——————————————
——————————–kuyt———————————–n’gog————————-
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anonymous - January 15th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Just to remind all out there wearing the red of Liverpool…
Remember the occasions of Istanbul 05 and the FA cup of 06, the ECL final of 07 and the route to the carling cup of 05, the best points tally for almost 20 yrs last season, the names brought in such as torres, reina, mascherano, agger….
Some are such fickle fans out there, I can see it from the mancs, those jealous toffee fans and those such as the spurs fans who spend money and ruin the careers of promising youngsters, yes THATS TRUE!!!!
Looking at the situation now, we are in a pretty poor state, the clubs finances are so dire that we can’t bring in any big names, the team is playing so poorly that I even wonder what will happen at the end of the season. YES, I, like most and if not all football fans, want to see flair and promising ability from a players that are paid far too much for what they do, but realistically football is about money and THATS WHAT MAKES THE WORLD SPIN, TIMES HAVE CHANGED I’M AFRAID!!!!!
But the truth is Rafa has done so much for the club, most if not all fans are forgetting. One week its praise rafa as we beat the mancs, the next its same old rafa, poor decisions have cost us, SACK HIM!!!!
buck up and look at the truth…. we are liverpool fans and we stick by our managers in times of crisis. we have been sooooooo unlucky this season with injuries and objects causing freak goals (yes, do u all remember the beach ball, i guess rafa planned that as well…. sarcasm btw).
But, what you only remember is the last 90 mins played, i even guarantee if we step out on the pitch on sat and win without gerrard and torres, not to mention benny (who has been phenomenal for us on many occasions), I think we will start to here a more positive response from the hypocrites out there…
Yes… I’m talking to the fans who slate rafa when things are slightly wrong but praise him when after positive results. Its shame football is made up of such a calibre of fans. The problems are coming week in and week out, unfortunately we dont have the finances like chelski and man city, but we do have the history on our side, why on earth do we want to be bought out by billionaire arab owners, we dont need to buy success but create it.
You may look at the team in the ECL final of 05 and say that was houlliers, and maybe some of you are right, but houllier didnt bring in alonso, or in fact garcia, but he did nurture gerrard and just like gerrard says, was one of, if not the main figure that made him the player he is today. But where was gerrard houllier on that night, not in the ataturk stadium, he was not present in the dressing room at half time. So in fact, i dont think that some of you appreciate what the manager has done, even all of the players said it was the half time team talk that instilled the fury and perseverance in the players, the boys on that pitch did us proud but also the manager did us proud and has taken the team to limits that others could not do in the past 20 yrs.
Souness may have ruined us as a manager, evans took us a level up and houllier also did great things for the club with little money in 2001, mistakes can be made and thats just life, but also they can be resolved and worked upon. Rafa has been stubborn with many decisions especially the decision to replace degan with a CENTRE BACK, but i’m blaming the owners for our problems, nor the manager. The owners have just been unlucky with global financial situation, just look at those mancs who are having troubles of their own right now, but when things were going alright no1 was criticising them, just shows what fickle people are like….
I do have 1 or 2 criticisms about rafa, the first that he should now know that when playing against lower league opposition, 442 is the only way, but only with torres and another out and out striker. He should be giving babel a go up there, give the guy time and he will deliver, we all know what he is capable of and what have we got to lose?
pushing gerrard back into the centre of midfield with masch or aquilani would make us a whole better side, when we play this formation, we reap the benefits not only, with a ball winner in the midfield but with more creativity there and not having the midfield clustered with bodies who dont have premiership experience.
now that we have a proper winger in maxi, he should be on the right maybe when yossi is back play him there and maxi on the left, better yet play babel there and push ngog up with torres, riera or benny on the left, and i think we’d have a better shape….
2)NO GERRARD AND TORRES PARTNERSHIP!!!!
we have noticed that once gerrard is man marked our game totaly fails just look at the portsmouth game with prince boateng covering gerrard the entire game, sunderland, man marked by cattermole or cana, reading by cisse…. it just doesnt work, thats not to say that we are a two man team. but what i mention is that gerrards best position is in the centre winning the ball and creating play for torres, or the wingers!!!!
we are a two man team and thats a fact, especially in terms of outfielders and creativity, we may not be the same team without them, but so are arsenal without vp and fabregas, chelski without essien and drogba, and utd are definitely not the same team without tevez or ronaldo, and even times without rooney… thats the way football is thats what separates the top 4 from the rest.
3) I agree and always have said kuyt is not a 1st teamer and i would to see what happens over the course of the remaining fixtures and see whether maxi if he plays like we all know he can at his top form, will he replace kuyt, probably not… This is the main issue i have with rafa. I think lucas has come on leaps and bounds from last season and has matured and will continue to mature in seasons to come, no player can win brazilian player of the year by doing nothing, he must have some form of ability, so stop slagging him off. he cost a third of the amount that utd paid for anderson and has still figured more than him. give him time and he will shine, he is only 22….
kuyt on the other hand is the worst player i have seen and I’ll be honest I slag him off weekly and even when he scores or assists. he should be a bench warmer and is NOT a winger maybe he can can cause some damage coming off of the bench but he offers absolutely nothing weekly, we need young and creative players picking up the ball and creating something out of nothing. I know we have no money atm but bruna, pacheco and nemeth (once he returns from his loan spell) should be given a chance, even ecclestone who i hear great things about should be given a chance, look what fergie is doing as well as wenger week in and week out, giving the young boys a chance to shine. Kuyt plays weekly and even when he’s had a dire game rafa persists with him. just do us a favour and take him out for a few games so that we can see the difference and the same goes for lucas even though he was one of the better players on wed.
4) aurelio needs to be given another chance at left back, he was awesome there last season, and was one of the key steady figures that took us to where we were at the end of the year. insua is a very promising player, the people in Argentina rave about him and were so peeved once we took him from their clutches, when i was in the Boca stadium and spoke to the people who worked there all they could say were great things about him, and that given time and remember he is only 21, he will be the Argentinian starting left back in the years to come….
aurelio on the other hand doesnt have the time that insua has and needs to play as he has the creativity and the defensive know-how to keep us steady at the back. darby and kelly also look promising when they have played.
so all in all i can tell you that in a different situation, with less injuries and more financial clout we would probably be up there and be playing in all competitions. the problems are just minor cracks that can be sealed, getting rid of the manager will not solve our problems, but i think lady luck will come our way. it might be a blessing in disguise that we are out of 3 competitions and i know the europa league is nothing to rave about, but teams with a large and great history are there as well (juve, ajax, etc).
so lets be positive, we might be signing another player in the window. Rafa has been very unlucky this season, maybe we need paco to return and help out, but i dont think thats the answer, some may say that rafa has wasted money, but they are just picking small things up along the way, look at chelsea with crespo sheva, malouda plays on the odd occasion and not to mention veron….
utd, with djemba djemba (the next keane) kleberson (brazilian world cup winner, but premier league failure) veron, anderson, nani, the list is endless, why dont the press pick on them, yep,,,, i think and am sure they have spent more than rafa on duds!!!!
so look at the facts, and be positive, get behind the team and the club, we are an easy target for the press and most if not all are just jumping on the bandwagon and printing lies!!!!
THATS MY KEY TO FINSH, LET ME KNOW YOUR RESPONSES…..
Paul, Liverpool
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dibbler - January 15th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Paul, Liverpool
its nice to know im not on my own mate
and the point about gerrard back into central midfield ive been saying that for a while it will help the balance no end.
good article get signed in mate
YNWA.
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Liverpool FC Danny - January 15th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Purslow said after the CL exit they would review the situation at the end of the season. So he’ll probably be sacked and Hiddink has said he wants to return to the PL and he would be the best chance to win the PL.
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nicklovesliverpool - January 15th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
anon at 9:07 am im sorry did you say you are resigning as a Liverpool support in my opinion you were or never will be a true Liverpool fan sticks with their club through the bad patches we are lucky look At Pompey yet they still have Loyal supporters i know the club is such a high stature but to be a true fan you stick with the club which is what i do
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liverpool5star - January 16th, 2010 at 12:23 am
first offf, kermit ur not a real liverpool fan! stop wasting your time with stupied posts. rafa rafa rafa… nobody really knows what it will cost to get rid of rafa only rafa and the oweners ect. what team to play? god only knows with rafa. people saying babel not in the squad? must be on his way out!
what managers can replace rafa?
1. pep guardiola contract up at the end of the season. said he won all he wanted at barca, would bring beautiful football and brings youth through!
2. guss hiddenk. said he wants to be manager? would be a good choice.
3. jose, do’nt think so. would cost alot to get him off inter.
good player which ye should be looking at. joe cole, adam jonhnson, chamak(sp) van bommel and meny meny more that are free’s in the summer!
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