The Five Reasons Rafa Benitez Must Leave Liverpool Football Club Now!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Presumably you’re new to football. If you think a few matches where we’ve been missing half the squad is a sensible way to judge Rafa’s performance as a manager, then that is ridiculous.

If you’re a Liverpool fan then don’t be so stupid!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

Steven Constable out of this website. For good!!

Idiot!!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

get rid of fafa now

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

Instead of the stupidity of spending 20 million to get a new manager why not invest that money on strengthening the squad! In my opinion our season went wrong when we didnt invest in new players in the summer. I believe the players expected at least 2 or 3 more quality players in , instead we got 1 replacement and 1 very good RB also a replacement. We needed a left sided winger/midfielder a striker and a long term replacement for samy, who i think has been missed A LOT this season. In a way you could say our strength was reduced as i dont think aqua is as good as xabi, but still a very good player, and their is no way the greek is on the same level as Samy, who was a legend! It showed for us to do well it would have to have been a long hard slog with arm tied behind our backs.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

Do you actually know what you are talking about?.

1). Maxi R, has just landed and confirmed as a Liverpool player 24hours before the Stoke match, so I would guess that he knows a little more about RB tactics, right?.

2). RB had to work with the bare minimum for the last two years, Man C, and Totenham have spent millions and considering the bad season that we’re having, we are only 4 points adrift, right?

3) rick Parry was responsable for most as you put it, Bizarre Transfers.

4) He has not lost the dressing room, did you actually watch the Stoke match?, Torres, Gerrard, Benayoun, all injured, for trying!

5) Hiddink………..Are the Russians World beaters…..??

So stop panicking…..and, support your team, always, not just when it is winning.

A good and successful Manager does NOT become a bad one, in a few month’s.

YNWA
axi

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

rafa’s been doing the job for years. you, my son, have never done it. i think he knows whether it’s better to play degen or maxi. for example, the media went mental when torres was taken off against fulham only later to find out that torres was injured for a long time after that… i think there are many things rafa knows that none of us (not even idiots in the media) will know.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

I wrote an article earlier today with the exact opposite point of view. We’ll wait and see if that gets published. – Andy Morris

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

……………….AT THE END OF A STORM…THERE’S A GOLDEN SKY

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

Why do people always want to blame money. don’t see the mancs moaning about losing two quality players in the summer and not replacing them … oh look, they are 2nd last time i looked and are 700m in debt via american owners … I guess the differences is, we at LFC still prefer to moan then accept our team needs our support. All those that complain money is are problem are disrespecting the boys in red … this is a rafa attitude and it doesn’t work! we need belief back, the sort of belief this club had in the past (supported LFC for 40+ years) … this is all mickey-mouse talk about money, money or blame is not the game, its about belief and anyone who does not believe we have a quality team should leave the building with rafa ….

ReikiRebel

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

hahahahaha how can any liverpool fan disagree with this article….. can a liverpool fan on here please name me 10 good signings rafa has made since hes been at liverpool. are the russian world beaters? no, does that matter when guus hiddink can do a better job at liverpool than rafa? no. all can i say to you liverpool fans is check the league table, the fa cup 4th round fixtures and see if your there, oh and the champs league and not forgetting the carling cup, instead of disagreeing with this article and living in denial grow a set and admit rafa is making liverpool football club an average team.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

never let this guy post again

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

rafa had just a few good years. at valencia 1 good year and the other teams he trained he sucked. at liverpool he only one the champions league( wich was great) and the fa cup but after all he wasn’t a great trainer. a team like liverpool has to go for the titel every year but with rafa we actually didn’t even had one chance to win the premier league. if you put hiddink on his place it would be alot better for the club. i mean look what he did to chelsea, the half year he worked there

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

There was an article recently by Guillem Ballegue and he knows his onions.

Despite idiots saying Rafa has brought a hundred players and spent £200m, the truth is that most of the number of players have been for the youth setup and we need that for the future.

The money spent is irrelevant as he hasnt blown £200m and has a net spend averaging just £16m a season!! Basically he gets the champ league money and has to trade players to eventually be able to afford someone better.

He didnt wake up and think mmmm I want Vorinin on a free as he will win me trophys!! he woke up wanting Ronaldo, Messi, Kaka etc… but “I want, doesnt get”
The fact that we got £2m for Vorinin is superb. He has made mistakes with the likes of Doss and Babel, but Italian Internationals are known as superb defenders and Babel was wanted by Arsenal and well, almost everyone. Scouts and many experts thought these would be good signings but unfortunately you cant win them all etc..

We have made a huge profit this year and the yanks are not letting him have cash. This appears to be why he wont play babel nor sell him. Basically if he sells him then the money gets taken away. We got nearly £7m for the 2 mentioned previously and reject £9 for Babel… £16m and we sign Maxi on a free (awesome deal but no money spent)

I offer defence when its appropriate!! I will also say that i am getting a little impatient with the defensive nature that he is adopting all the time.

Fair enough when playing Utd, play the 2 holding men and break things up, then counter. Work out the details of their every attack / style of play. He does this well! but…. why worry that Bolton are stong in the air or that Burnley might have a winger that can do this or fulham have someone who can do that etc …. Why not say that Liverpool have some awesome attacking talent (not now but when all fit) and lets attack and rip teams apart… make them worry about our strengths and not the other way round!!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

guus hiddink has been a successful manager at every team he has managed, i think bringing him to liverpool would be an excellent move for the club, under GH liverpool will be serious title contenders every year

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

some one give this guy a job he speaks more sense than virtualy every reporter or columnist out their!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

it’s hard to defend Benitez when he let go strikers, Robbie Keane, Peter crouch and craig Bellamy, they were never replaced, ngog is doing his best but he is not good enough yet, why keep buying defenders when all it needs is for Torres to get injured and we are screwed up front, surely he must see this problem, united and arsenal give their youngsters a run out every now and then, surely we have players in the reserves and even u-18 that should be given a chance

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

I posted the last LONG message too..

I forgot this..

Fernando Torres… what a waste of £24m…. Rafa has lost it….none of the other teams would have brought a player who will only score 12 goals a year..

These were the comments made on this very site and by the press, when he brought Torres. mmmmm I think the idiots were proved wrong then, but now…. no… it never happened like that eh…

Who had really heard of Alonso at the highest level? I had and some will but most in England didnt know him… now Rafa is a dick for selling him… He didnt get credit for signing him though!

Reina?!!! Awesome..

Dont forget the team that won champ league was an average team and we were lucky and also got through on spirit but if anyone here thinks that Djime traore, Cisse, Baros, Smicer, Mellor etc.. are better than what we have now, then you are mad.

The problem is that other teams have caught us up. Spurs etc have spent a fortune.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

money is no excuse…… look at arsene wenger, alot of success since he joined arsenal (admitedly not the last few years) and spent not alot of money atall, you dont need money to sign good quality players, you need to spot the talent and potential and bring the best out of the player, i know its not as easy as it sounds but my point is money isnt everything in the game of football

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

Fellow fan?! NOT!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

Anon 8:48 how about these

Torres
Alonso
Mascherano
Kuyt
Aurelio
Benayoun
Reina
Agger
Johnson
Crouch
Bellamy (idiot but he did play well for us)
Not to mention Nemeth and Pacheco – Andy Morris

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

i said ten players rafa has signed since he has joined liverpool……………… try again mate

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

that last mesage is not for the person who has posted before the last one

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

i disagree with bellamy, and kuyt hes not a good player just cuz he runs alot he cant do nothing else…… nemeth pachecho?????? no

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

To the guy who asked for 10 good signings that Rafa made.

1. Fernando Torres. Definitely one of the best strikers in the world, if not the best, when he’s bang on form.

2. Javier Mascherano. Rescued him from the West Ham bench, turned him into one of the best defensive midfielders in the world, he’s now Argentina captain.

3. Martin Skrtel. Don’t disagree with this. You saw how good he was last season therefore know how good he can be.

4. Daniel Agger. Another top quality defender that is just struggling for form.

5. Daniel Pacheco. I think everyone agrees that he will be a top class striker.

6. Diego Cavalieri. Prob the best sub keeper in premiership.

7. Yossi Benayoun. Like Retryboy says, he’s like Beardsley when he’s played in the hole behind the striker.

8. Jose Reina. Should be Spanish No 1.

9. Xabi Alonso. One of the best passers of the ball in the game. God we miss him.

10. Robbie Keane/Dirk Kuyt. Don’t care what anybody says, both players are quality when played in their best positions.

And that’s leaving out Nemeth, Riera, Crouch, Bellamy, Luis Garcia, Arbeloa, N’Gog, San Jose, David Martin, Emmanuel Mendy, Dalla Valle, and i don’t think Degen is as bad as people make him out to be. If he had a sturdy run of games we’d see the best of him.

Steve

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

Sorry left out Glen Johnson

Steve

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

Bellamy is very much a love or hate player. I thought he did well in his first (and, as it turned out, last) season. However, he seems to have trouble distinguishing between karaoke and golf.

Last season Kuyt got more assists than anyone else. Not just at LFC but in the league. If I wanted someone who could run a lot then I’d start a petition for us to sign Paula Radcliffe.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

fair play steve, i disagree with a number of players you sed but you named ten. now shall we name all the bad signings he made??????

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

Well who do you disagree with, i think all the players mentioned fall into the good category?

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

i think stevie g should join chelsea, at least he might win something, torres is past his best already,

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:36 pm

kuyt, keane, n’gog, degen, bellamy…… keane is a good player but he wasnt at liverpool…. money wasted

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

there is no one better than rafa!!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

Keane wasn’t given a chance at Liverpool. Kuyt is a poacher he reminds me of Mark Hughes. I think N’gog has shown promise and he’s still very young. Fair enough on the Degen call but he played well in his last two games. Bellamy is playin a stormer for Man City this season. I think all managers have to gamble when it comes to transfers so its very easy to say its money wasted but what about when you buy Benayoun for 5 million then he gets linked to Man City for 15 million, or buting torres for 24 million and now there’s talk of a 50/60 million bid from Man City?

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

rafa should of gave keane a chance, bellamy is playing a blinder for man city but didnt for liverpool, kuyt can run and poach but has no qualty about him, time will tell with n’gog…. benyoun is a good investment

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

True, true, Rafa works in mysterious ways i suppose! I just feel that all the abuse he’s gettin is way too extreme, i remember last season when we thrashed Man Utd IN OLD TRAFFORD the smile on my face went from ear to ear coz all my mates are Utd fans and i honestly felt that we were going to win the league. I’ve never felt that before! Anyways laters all!

Steve

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

F we lost Rafa we’d almost certainly lose Torres. Now answer me this would you be happy with that or is it better to keep Rafa in order to keep the worlds best player?

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

Let me ask all the plastic reds fans this, why is it that tottenham who have done nothing compared to liverpool over the last 5 years…. why is it they can go out and spend what they make on player transfers, why is it they can spend over 114 million over two years when the last time i looked spurs had done nothing, in the champions league.

Can you also tell me why we can not as being a big club just go out and spend 40 – 50 million in one transfer window, its a joke, we never have and we should have been able to do a chelsea or city, liverpool are a huge club and after our continued run in the champions league it should have happened. Ask torres what he wants, and he is right, back the manager or go.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

Some of you need your heads rattling. As for Hiddink? He did a great job with Chelsea didn’t he. Finished behind Rafa last year and his ‘poor’ squad. And he couldn’t even get the might of Russia past Slovenia to the World Cup. No wonder he’s looking for a job.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

look at where we were when rafa took us over .hes been at an dissadvantege since hes been herefirst with parry then with tom and jerry who have taken money of rafa that hes earned through the champions league.this is the first time weve gone backwards and it just about somes up our luck this year when you lose three of your best players in one game .its bad enough with the media but when its your own so called fans haveing kneejerk reactions and some talking rubbish.yes rafas made some misstakes but look at fergie /berbatov/toscic/veron /nanni/anderson/hargreaves.etc .we used to be loyal fans now were no better than any other fans.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

mark keane was a bad signing, no excuses

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

hiddink had half a season at chelsea, yeah he finished behind rafa but rafa had a whole season at liverpool….. are we all talking about the guus hiddink that took korea to the semis of the wrld cup and russia to the semis of euro and has a very good record when it comes to winning domestic trophies????

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

In jan
we need turan(swap with bable plus a few mil),kenwyn jones (11mil) ,bring back steve finnan(1mil).

In the summer
we need chamach(free plus signing fee),adam johnson(free plus signing fee) and a defender maybe haangeland (10-15mil) from fullham a quality left back insua aint good enough maybe bring back john arne riise (5-7mil)

this little lot would only cost 30-40mil plus about 5-10mil for the freebies signing fee’s and i think it would win us the league plus we need a mass clear out

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

sorry mark i got the wrong end of the stick there

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 10:59 pm

i wish all liverpool fans were like retryboy and lfc danny, instead of making excuses just tell it how it is and want whats best for the club, rafa out, guus hiddink all the way!!!!!!!!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:07 pm

hiddink will make the best of whats hes got and win games

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

HIDDINK was so good, here’s his record at top clubs…

only success at PSV and even Ronald Koeman and Jan Wouters have won with PSV so don’t think its too hard to win in the Dutch League

sacked at Fenebache

sacked at Valencia

He became the manager of Spanish La Liga side Real Madrid in the summer of 1998, replacing Jupp Heynckes, but bad league formsacked in February 1999.

[Hiddink then took over the reins at Spanish club Real Betis in 2000 for the rest of the season. His time at Real Betis would end badly with Hiddink being sacked by May 2000.

At chelsea even Avram Grant almost won the league and Champions League so Hiddink doesn’t look too impressive
.
So don’t ask for what you will live to regrett cos we already have the best man at the job…

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:19 pm

Liverpool FC Danny – January 17th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

He won the European Cup with PSG you idiot and everyone gets sacked at Real Madrid, even Capello (Twice!!!) would you say Capello is a bad manager??? No.

FOOL HE WON AT PSV AND NOT PSG???????????

YOU FOOL CAPELLO DIDN’T ONLY WIN AT PSV 20 YEARS BACK

LOOK AT CAPELLO’S RECORD AND YOU’LL REALISE THAT HIDDINK IS NOT FIT ENOUGH TO KISS CAPELLO’S FEET.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:20 pm

Liverpool FC Danny – January 17th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

He won the European Cup with PSG you idiot and everyone gets sacked at Real Madrid, even Capello (Twice!!!) would you say Capello is a bad manager??? No.

FOOL HE WON AT PSV AND NOT PSG???????????

YOU FOOL CAPELLO DIDN’T ONLY WIN AT PSV 20 YEARS BACK

LOOK AT CAPELLO’S RECORD AND YOU’LL REALISE THAT HIDDINK IS NOT FIT ENOUGH TO KISS CAPELLO’S FEET.

Milan

* Serie A: 1991-92, 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96
* Supercoppa Italiana: 1992, 1993, 1994
* UEFA Champions League: (runner-up) 1992-93, (winner) 1993-94, (runner-up) 1994-95
* European Super Cup: 1994

Roma

* Serie A: 2000-01
* Supercoppa Italiana: 2001

Juventus

* Serie A: 2004-05, 2005-06 (Trophy revoked due to Calciopoli scandal)

Real Madrid

* La Liga: 1996-97, 2006-07

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:22 pm

Rafa has made some great signings in his time at Anfield ,the likes of Mascherano , Reina , Alonso , Torres , Aurelio , Sissoko , Agger and others , he Just does’nt Know how to line his team up though , he plays far too defensive which is not the Liverpool way , we should attack teams and try play them off the park , Rafa holds off when we should kill teams off , I think it ’s bullshit that we need loads of money to win the title ,I think are first eleven is not far off what we need to win the title if Rafa could put players in the right positions .

REINA
JOHNSON SKYRTEL AGGER AURELIO
MASCHERANO
MAXI AQUILLANI GERRARD RIERA
TORRES

Maybe riera only weak link in team ,

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:23 pm

to January 17th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
you are right but nearly every manager will get sacked by a club thats apart of being a manager but him being sacked doesnt over shadow the fact that he took holland and s korea to a world cup semi final and russia to a euro semi final, also australia to the second round which is very good for the aussies standards, also a fa cup at chelsea and a euro cup at psv…… i wud say thats pretty good for a manager

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:23 pm

Steve Constable I take it you are new to this game because you write like an amateur. Easy to jump on band wagons but let’s just cast our minds back! Alex Ferguson was spared the sack when he was hanging on by the skin of his teeth, Arsene Wenger’s team were rubbish last season and has not won anything in the same period that Rafa has not and by the way never won the european cup! He has made mistakes who does’nt?
I’ll support my club through thick and thin not when things ae going well!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

wanting rafa out doesnt mean you aint supporting ya club threw thick and thin, it means you see that liverpool have exited every domestic competion and the champs league and you want whats best for the club…… besides its not just a case of things arent going well its a case of everything to do with manging liverpool fc rafa is not the man for the job and is doing things poorly

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:33 pm

HIDDINK is so good that with a very good team like Russia couldn’t get them to the world cup with teams like Wales and Finland, Azerbyjan and Lichtinstein and the hardest matches with Germany…

Then in playoffs couln’t beat Slovenia

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

To Jan 17th 2010 11.30,

We finished 4 points off the league last season how much money did we spend on the squad to try and win the league this season? Which other club would have done that and I bet you were’nt calling for his head 6 months ago!

I don’t have a short memory

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

cheers danny.
to January 17th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
ok he didnt qualify for the world cup with russia, and thats not great atall but that doesnt mean to say he isnt a great manager you forget all the great things he has done every manager is entitled to a slip up or two but rafa has took advantage of that privilage, even if hiddink isnt a greta manager surely hes better than rafa

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

Liverpool FC Danny – January 17th, 2010 at 11:26 pm

Top 5 managers
1. Fergusen(sadly)
2. Wenger
3. Capello
4. Guardiola
5. Hiddink

how do you get Hiddink at 5????

whats he done apart from winning the champs league 20yrs ago and getting south korea to semi’s of world cup.. By your logic the manager of Greece Otto Rehhagel who was manager when Greece won the Euro’s 2004 should be above Hiddink

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:43 pm

20 years ago, 50 years ago, 100 years ago….. whos cares he still won it!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

Let’s call things by their right names: The Russian team’s failure to qualify for the WC finals, and particularly the way they performed in both play-off games against Slovenia, is a huge steback for Guus Hiddink, the coach who had previously earned his miracle-man reputation

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

Paul Merson was right to describe Hiddink as a lucky manager a few months back on Soccer Saturday. He’s been the Emperor’s new clothes for a few months. His failure with such a talented group of players (certainly a heck of a lot better than England) exposes him for what he is.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

While not doubting Hiddink’s proven abilities as a manager, I’m glad to see Wilson has challenged the idea that he is some sort of demi-God who has never been anything but immaculate. He has had more of a good career than an incredible one. He’s performed some very good achievements like of course taking Holland & Russia to the semis in 98 & 08 and winning the European Cup in 88 but, if there was such a thing as a least impressive European Cup win, which there probably isn’t, his would up there with Liverpool’s in 05 when you consider that PSV didn’t win one of the last 5 matches (both legs of the quarters, semis & the final).

He didn’t really achieve anything in club football in Spain and he really didn’t stay at Chelsea long enough to say anything more than he did steady a ship.

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

i find it hilarious how all you people backing rafa are slating GH…. shall we compare statistics….. that will settle it

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

and rafa isnt lucky….. the goal that never was!!

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:55 pm

Number six the goatee beard

anonymous - January 17th, 2010 at 11:56 pm

mark g, im sure if he can get a team like s korea to the WC semis im sure he can get a skint, injury infested, poorly run liverpool team to 4th spot

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:00 am

Any shouts for Roy Hodgson?

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:01 am

At the end of the day Rafa has fucked around with the team and its back fired , We need the true scouse reds back in the ground , fuck off glory hunters , i can’t get a fuckin ticket , sick of it , moanin nobheads who avent got an igloo , don,t get behind the team , stick to your own towns and city’s if you avent got scouse roots ./ atmosphere has gone since all these gloryhunters started goin the game , we were the 12th man in the 80s L33 red .

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:03 am

L33 red
I pay my money I take my choice

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:06 am

to January 18th, 2010 at 12:01 am
mate dont worry about glory hunters this season cuz you aint winning fuck all so theres no glory to hunt

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:11 am

For a start, you need to take those PSV titles with a grain of salt. PSV had won two on the bounce before he took over, so all he did was keep things going. And besides, with all due respect, Dutch titles are a dime a dozen.

That is why good Dutch managers go abroad and win things. And Hiddink is not one of them. He spent four seasons at Valencia and Fenerbahçe and never finished higher than fourth.

OK, he won the World Club Cup with Real Madrid. Big deal. He was sacked halfway through the season, that is how bad they were. And how about his stint at Real Betis? Three months of futility with a team who finished eighteenth.

You want to talk about his exploits in Europe? OK, he did win the European Cup 20 years ago, but that was when it was a lot easier to do so, when there was only one club from each of the big leagues.

And, by the way, that season he did not win a single game after the second round, only a series of boring draws. In fact, in his entire career he has won only one European Cup or Champions League match from the quarter-final stage onwards. Is this is your definition of genius?

And lets talk about national team because it is good to debunk a few more myths. He had one of the most talented Holland teams in history and won only one match out of four at Euro ’96.

players like

Edwin van der Sar
Michael Reiziger
Clarence Seedorf
Jaap Stam1
Ronald de Boer
Edgar Davids
Patrick Kluivert
Dennis Bergkamp
Aron Winter
Winston Bogarde
Jordi Cruijff
Phillip Cocu

And at France ’98 he did knock out Yugoslavia and Argentina on the way to the semi-finals. He did it thanks to late, late goals, which may help to explain his Guus Geluk moniker.

South Korea? OK, you need a barrelful of salt for that one. Or have you forgotten the refereeing against Portugal, Spain and Italy? Three red cards, two penalties and a dozen or so dubious officiating decisions . . .

As for getting Australia to the World Cup, effectively he had to overcome only one team to do it (and, even then, it took penalties). Once there, what did the Socceroos do? They beat Japan – the only match they won in the tournament.

Russia? Don’t be deceived by their run to the Euro 2008 semi-finals. They won only two of their five games in 90 minutes – against Greece and Sweden. Oh, and before you say how these are great results because Russia and South Korea are poor teams whom Hiddink turned into competitive sides, consider instead that two of the past four Uefa Cup winners are Russian and that South Korea have qualified for every World Cup since 1986 (which is more than can be said for France, England and Holland).

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:15 am

Stop fuckin moaning then get behind the team , I know Rafa’s shite , we must give him till end of season and see what happens . its all about money now Liverpool.f.c would rather have somebody out of town spending loads of money around the ground , and thats were the atmosphere and tradition is goin down the pan , at the end of the day its all about us gettin back to were we belong .at the top. ynwa.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:16 am

anonymous – January 17th, 2010 at 11:43 pm

20 years ago, 50 years ago, 100 years ago….. whos cares he still won it!

you worry me next you’ll say that lets get Howard Kendall cos he won something in the 80’s

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:19 am

or even Howard Wilkinson

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:20 am

to January 18th, 2010 at 12:11 am
firstly euro cup 20 years ago 10, 12, 10000000 years ago who gives a fuck he won it…… and as for 98 world cup with a great dutch side well that great side got knocked out by a great brazillian side….. and korea may have qulaified for every WC since 86 but who do they have to play to qualify? and penalties red cards blah blah blah doesnt matter he still beat those teams and red cards and penalties are part of the game and as for russia who cares what games he won and didnt he still did enough to get them to the semis

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:20 am

or even George graham

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:22 am

It’s turning into the Guus Hiddink Wikipedia page

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:22 am

12;06 won 5euros 18 league titles and so on , what the fuck av u won gobshite , Man ure are avin there time we will come storming back ahead soon lad , we are too big a club to keep down and the best supporters by far , get back on your site fuckin gaychat .

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:24 am

Trav09, if your brain could only keep up with your emotions!

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:24 am

to January 18th, 2010 at 12:11 am
lets talk about 05 champs league win for liverpool
a great steve g goal late on to scrape the latter stages of the finals.
the goal that never was against chelsea.
a penaltie in the final.
and u cudnt win it after 90 minutes u had to do it in penos.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:26 am

so your a ryan babel fan and not a liverpool one. he aint got no heart or passion and before you start saying rafa is mistreating him blah blah blah he still plays in front of thousands of people who pay his wages and he still dont give a shit.was gona say stick 2 rapping but he’s shit at that aswell

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:26 am

January 18th, 2010 at 12:22 am
i support man united…… hahahahahahahahahaha were having our time and enjoying it, it makes are success better by watching lfc do bollocks why we are shriving hahahahahaha ill speak to ya in the gay chat site mate

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:29 am

anonymous – January 18th, 2010 at 12:20 am

to January 18th, 2010 at 12:11 am
firstly euro cup 20 years ago 10, 12, 10000000 years ago who gives a fuck he won it…… and as for 98 world cup with a great dutch side well that great side got knocked out by a great brazillian side….. and korea may have qulaified for every WC since 86 but who do they have to play to qualify? and penalties red cards blah blah blah doesnt matter he still beat those teams and red cards and penalties are part of the game and as for russia who cares what games he won and didnt he still did enough to get them to the semis..

IF HE’S SO FUCKIN GOOD THEN WHY IS IT I DON’T SEE APART FROM REAL MADRID (IN THE 90′S and even they realised how fuckin good he was in a few months and Betis almost got relagated by the prick) ANY OTHER DECENT TEAM EVER EVEN THINK ABOUT GIVING HIM A JOB

COS THEY ALL KNOW HOW GOOD HE REALLY IS<<<<

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:30 am

Liverpool will win fuck all this season coz were shite but Man u will win fuck all and your supposed to be good?

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:32 am

hahahaha we will see, you lfc fans just keep living in the past whilst im looking to the future for more success that we will get

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:34 am

don’t believe everything you read in the daily sport or the sun….they are anti rafa ..

they will even tell you that Steve Mclaren is even better than Rafa

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:36 am

Shut up L33. You’re an uncultured gobshite. It’s nothing to do with where you come from. I’m from Liverpool 4 and that doesn’t make me any more of a supporter than anyone else. Oh and by the way, a lot of people can’t afford to go to the game. Although I love my team, I also love my kids and my kids enjoy eating food and wearing clothes. I work as a steward because I can’t afford the ticket price but there just aren’t enough high visability coats for everyone to have my idea and anyway I would rather have a Manc sitting next to me for the rest of the season than listen to a jumped up fool like you. Call yourself a true supporter? It’s dickheads like you giving us a bad name by turning on our own fans. You shoulld be put down you limp wristed little turd. Oh and by the way you wouldn’t get through my turnstyle. And I’d know who you was by the tracksuit and rockport you scumbag.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:36 am

anonymous – January 18th, 2010 at 12:29 am
chelsea????????????????? linked with lfc and juve??????????//

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:37 am

don’t be like sheep and follow the anti Rafa media with bullshit on how good the other managers are, the record is there for all to see…Rafa is one of the most successful managers in Europe and could walk into any job in Europe

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:38 am

the future? shrek to barca? you will win fuck all. anyway why you reading about us go read ur own shite

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:40 am

to January 18th, 2010 at 12:36 am
well said, i have alot of respect for that comment, liverpool could do with alot more fans like you

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:41 am

anonymous – January 18th, 2010 at 12:36 am

anonymous – January 18th, 2010 at 12:29 am
chelsea????????????????? linked with lfc and juve??????????//

do you eat your own shit or something???

he’s on the pay roll of Abramovich at chelsea as for Liverpool and Juventus only bullshit media make up these stories and flies like you go and eat the shit….

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:42 am

Retryboy we all get the picture how you feel about Rafa let’s drop it now it’s boring. You championed for Mancini to come to lfc which for me would have been a good call.
Instead of having a go at Rafa all the time have a go at the owners. Yep you make some good points and true they Are about RAfa.It’s a shambles of how this great club is going down the pan and it’s all to do with the owners.Get the ownership right and look at getting rid of rafa. Until such time no worthy manageris going to work under those conditions.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:42 am

to January 18th, 2010 at 12:38 am
shrek to barca maybe, if it happens then oh well we will still do well cuz we dont rely on individual players (like you do, torress and gerrard) your two man team will go far

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:44 am

and man u fan from Exeter , go’ne talk to Gary neville on gaychat , horrible pair of fuckers , we all fuckin hate mancs , you are obsessed with mighty LFC you sing about us every game because you are worried an u know we will be back to smack your arses again . Sir Bob paisley legend.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:45 am

retryboy we changed your name to RETARD_BOY

GO FCK OFF TO VILLA AND UP O’NEILLS ARSE cos i don’t see them doing so much better than us…whats their excuse.. is it Rafa’s fault that villa are fucking up

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:45 am

12.42
ha u rely on 1 the rent boy thats in madrid. ur time is coming to be shite and u no it

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:48 am

Sullivan – January 18th, 2010 at 12:44 am

We dont have the best man for the job. He would maby be the best man for a team like Cardiff but not Liverpool. Guus has a brilliant track record. I mean, who thought Japan would make the world cup finals? He coached Australia to their first world cup in 32 years, and they would of made the quarter finals if Italy had not have been awarded the penalty. He is one of the best coaches available right now. Fuck off Benitez, sign Hiddink

prik if Hiddink had a good track record on the domestic front, don’t you think he would be in a job by now

Only delusional plastic lfc fans like you, who change their mi9nds about who to support depending on which way the wind blows., think hiddink is a top manager

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:56 am

to KJT
very well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:56 am

How about get rid of the f***king owners! How is any manager supposed to do his job with Laurel and Hardy in charge. Get a new manager and it will be the same old story

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:57 am

Hiddink, good manager did well at chelsea…Avram grant did even better at chelsea, got chelsea to second in league and one kick away from champs league may be we should try and sign him ….

fools what kind of statements you make

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:59 am

Sullivan – January 18th, 2010 at 12:57 am

anonymous – January 18th, 2010 at 12:48 am

Why dont you shut the fuck up before you start claiming stuff that is not true. I have never liked Rafa Benitez. Sure, he won us the champions league and FA Cup, thats great. The one thing I really liked was that he defeated Manchester United. But does that count when we draw to stoke and lose to pompy?

Gus Hiddink will come and win everything, stop dreaming and face reality, Hiddink is crap.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:01 am

L4 steward . don’t were Rockport or black trackies lad , and i am cultured as much as anybody else in the country , Everton can more aless fill the stadium so im sure we can , and by the way i,ve got kids and I decent house , been goin game for well over 30 years , so dont give me bullshit , i know where i’m comin from .ciao for now .

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:04 am

KJT If u can’t stand the heat………….

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:05 am

hddink with tony adams as his no.2 and we will win evrything next season

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:07 am

1.05
You been smoking pot?

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:08 am

Guus Hiddink is so good that he has fire coming out of his arse and therefore he he is the best manager in the world, we should go and sign him before Arsenal sack Wenger and sign him

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:09 am

we better sign hiddink before Manure sack Fergi and sign him

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:11 am

anyone for tony pulis? hahahaha

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:11 am

what about Graem Souness as Liverpool manager with Jamie Redknap as his no.2.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:12 am

KJT
Bit of a childish response for someone so mature

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:13 am

how about Mark Lawrenson with Hansen as his no.2

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:15 am

Roy Hodgson

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:17 am

sooty and sweep would do a beta job than the motd team

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:18 am

who wants to lick me

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:19 am

anonymous – January 18th, 2010 at 1:18 am

i want your ass

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:19 am

anonymous – January 18th, 2010 at 1:19 am

call me sally while you spank me

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:20 am

gizz on me!!!!!!!!!!!

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:21 am

Is this the tvx website

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:21 am

ill tell you a story one day i went to you stop and raped himself on the way home

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:21 am

can i call you RETARD-BOY whilst i fill your mouth

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:22 am

btw all that shit was me, did you like my story?

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:23 am

id rather you call me sally or bitch

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:26 am

OMG im looking at my COCK and its soooo SMALL what should i do

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:26 am

anonymous – January 18th, 2010 at 1:26 am

CUT IT OFF

NO POINT IN HAVING ONE IF ITS SMALL

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:29 am

Stick that gobshite retryboy in charge he would do a better job than rafa I’m sure. He can manage the team from his armchair and from his home down south.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:29 am

I’m tired of all these people saying that we haven’t spent money on any players, nearly 40 million was spent last summer. it would be hard to argue many premier league clubs who spent that much.. I believe we need a new manager, but also there has to be some fault put on the players.. Lack of confidence, effort, quality. Just poor.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:38 am

can i put my cock in your mouth whilst i call you Hiddink

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 2:19 am

anonymous – January 17th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Thank you this is what i have been saying for ages, yes we can question his methods but there has to be soem sense, he knows better than us or we would all be football managers now, you dont just suddenly stop being a good manager all of a sudden, we are having a shit season gerrard said it himself its not the managers its the players there is obviously some upset at anfield the team dont want to play, people keep feeling sorry for babel for all we know it could be his negative attitude and bullshit that has made every1s form suffer its highly unlikely i know but we dont have a clue whats going on behind closed doors.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 2:27 am

why hiddink would be so good is he identifies what needs to be corrected. benitez cant see it. hiddink is famous for turning things around, and fast, just what we need right now. we can think long term when were back to winning ways.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 2:55 am

Anal discharge. Thats all there is to say…

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 4:21 am

Everything you have said here just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. Simplistic, moronic, lacking anything resembling reason or accuracy….do you write for a broadsheet?

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 5:00 am

GH almost took australia all the way only in the last WC a 90th minute dive by the wogs saved them and then they went on to win the WC

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 5:03 am

Guuuuuuuus Guuuuuuus Guuuuuus chanting would bring the Kop alive

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 5:13 am

Yes im australian and remember the last world cup Guus was a revelation took us from 170th rating in the world to mid 20s. Hes a great game day manager and makes perceptive moves during the game. Rafa doesn’t even need to turn up on game day, he can just hand his substitution times list to Sammy Lee and fuck off home the useless twat.

In Rafa we Mis-trust

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 7:31 am

RETARD boy and KUNTmit…go wank with each other and support Aston Villa. You are on the wrong site!

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 8:32 am

Travo9
Are you retryboy in disguise. Anyway it’s seems you must have been brought up in a whore house ? If you come out with a comment like that what’s up is that was was said to you in the past because your mother doesn’t know where the spunk has come from in making you.
Go back to the hole you came from you dispicable indivdual.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 11:32 am

lick my ass Retryboy

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

I have to agree with this article
some liverpool fans need to take there head out of the sand and realise we are getting nowear with Rafas team management bad tactics,no matter how bad certain players play they allways end up on the team sheet(Lucas,Kuyt,Ngog)maxi,aqailani and pacheo should have been on instead?????
at the end of match interveiws we hear the same crap coming out of rafas mouth :-
We must work harder and improve
its the refs fault
Lucas had a brilliant game

so this is to Rafa and these are “FACTS”
1.we are shit
2.Gerrard,Torress and masc will be leaving
3.Lucas,Kuyt,Ngog should never be i a red shirt.
4.alot of liverpool fans have lost faith.
5.we have been knocked out of every cup competiton by january
6.we have lost half our matches.
7.we havent won a cup in 5 years.

In rafa we trust(Never again)

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

Mr Constable – a very simplistic argument. I’ll pick up a few points.

1. Maxi has not played for how long? Degen can play right midfield and is match fit. Who do you go for away at Stoke. Get it into your head mate – Maxi is NOT match fit.

2. Rafa has made good signings. Torres, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Reina, Mascherano, Kuyt, Riera cannot all be ‘dead wood’ – the argument is too simplistic and childlike. Aquaman is still settling in so it is FAR too early to judge him.

3. Rafa won the league at Valencia – then finished 5th next season. Did he get sacked? No, they stuck with him and he won the league again. Every season he has improved us – we almost did it last season with a record points hall. One bad half a season and it’s supposedly not good enough. Where’s the money going to come from to get new world class players?

4. If you don’t have big bucks what do you do? Spend your £15M on one player who might make it in the prem or try to bring in 3/4 who also might make it?? Seems he cannot win here. Many people now say the team is rubbish but I saw enough fight at Stoke to make me believe. We could have easily been bullied out of it but we weren’t and we almost won!

5. The alternatives are dangerous suggestions:
Mark Hughes – no comment
Martin O’Neill – favours the Houllier-esque system of sitting deep and counter attacking at pace. We’ve seen that too he plays ultra defensive in some matches and his record in Europe is APALLING. No thanks.
Guus Hiddink – good manager but looking for a cushy last job before retirement. No long term plan.
King Kenny – great manager, but when did he last manage? 10, 15 years ago? Come on guys, be serious – he WAS great, but it is doubtful he could do it again with limited transfer funds (See his record at Newcastle!!!).

Also consider that any manager is coming into a dysfunctional club which despite Hicks and Purslow promising investment – it IS NOT coming. Which serious investor is going to buy a bit piece of a dysfunctional football club. No one – the best we can hope for is a sale and since the planks want around £1BN it realistically is not going to happen.

Rafa has consistently stood up to the yanks and smoked them out more than once to expose the lies. Any new manager at the present time would have no funds, the same players and would more than likely be a YES man to the owners.

Rafa loves the club make no mistake about that. One bad half season, come on guys when did we forget so easily – this ain’t playstation football or championship manager……

Markus

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 2:23 pm

What idiot was that that said instead of investing 20 million on getting rid of Rafa, rather invest in players? Rafa has spent over 250 million already and still has nothing to show. This means that he doesn’t have an eye for talent, except for Torres and Johnson. As if that isn’t enough, he still makes bad decisions on the pitch. After being at Liverpool for 6 seasons, and spending all that money on players, as well as refusing to take the blame for any bad decisions, how can anyone stick by him. He will bring the club down even further and he will never win the premier league title.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

To Anon @ 2.23pm:

It’s actually less than 250M – are you Souness or something? Souness is in danger of looking as much as a fool as Redknapp Jnr and Collymore. But I suppose at least Souness had the bottle to try management.

You also have to take into account NET spend. Every season we saw new players come in – and what happened? We got more points and consolidated our position in the top 4. This ain’t no quick fix or computer game here. Utd and Chelski have much more finance than us. Look at the gunners last year – so called fans calling for Wenger to go… a little patience works wonders. And yes, Wenger has made bad buys too – Senderos, Cygan for example.

I’m sure you know all about bad decisions on the pitch. Can you give some examples to back up your claims? And in the interests of balance, do show that some good decisions have been made. Why not define – bad decision? Are you referring to a decision that the manager makes that does not fit in with what you want OR do you mean something like a substitution that has not worked out (if so, it happens to other managers too).

I’ve read countless interviews where Rafa has said he has made mistakes. I’ve also seen post-match interviews where he has said the team were not good enough and himself (and the team) will work harder. Again, if you have examples to prove otherwise, I’d be happy to know.

On the subject of finance – your argument is far too simplistic. Look at the figures season on season. Look at the net spend. Then compare it to the league winners for the last 6 years. Consider how it compares? If you have a budget, do you blow it all on one player – or do you gamble on some ‘might be’ players who cost a lot less? Some people quote last summer – bizzarely, the net spend was zero!!! We got Johnson was pompey owed us for Crouch and we use the Alonso cash on Aquilani (but not all of it), Rafa thinks he has money left to bring in Jokevic and Upson – but is then told at the last minute he has no money to spend. What do you do in that situation??

And to say he doesn’t know how to improve or know the shortcomings? No chance, he knows, but his hands are tied.

Markus

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

i wud be happy to sit back and watch all the rafa fans get what they want (rafa staying), then give them a big fat i told you so when lfc finish tenth come end of season………….
you rafa fans need to wake up n face facts, are you all seriously this blind? stop making excuses to defend him strap a pair of balls on and want whats best for lfc

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

Unfortunately and it really pains me to report this there was a bust up at half time during Reading’s game. An argument started about why Torres was taken off – apparently Torres felt he was ok to continue (Rafa proved right in taking him off given the scan results etc). Any way, Gerrard was the one voicing this not Torres, who remains publicly loyal to Rafa. Pellegrino basically made it clear to Gerrard that Rafa was the manager so just go out and play. Gerrard took it upon himself to tell Pelligrino he was a sh*te player and even worse coach. Other players were involved but none were aggressive. Gerrard and Pelligrino came to blows. Gerrard has been suspended without pay until further notice. He was told to be at the Stoke game to stop rumours ciculating. Note how neither Torres nor Benayoun were present.

Anyway, hate all this but bottom line is Gerrard will be going in the summer and NOT to Real Madrid…they want Rafa and given what’s happened Rafa will not want Gerrard. Inter and Man City look favourites but don’t rule out another bid by Chelsea.

Torres is staying. He loves the club.

Gerrard – fair enough great player for the Reds but he is so full of himself and thinks he is Liverpool…he needs to go for the good of the club.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

To Anon above – how did you come by this story? Heat magazine?

Benny and Torres were not there because of a broken rib and impending operation respectively.

Wouldn’t be so funny if true. Would show Gerrard in a bad light.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

gerrard did have a bust up!!

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

my breathe smells like cock

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

John Barnes has urged Reds fans to keep the faith at a meeting of the Malta Liverpool fan club. Go to You tube to view.

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

rafa ain’t goin nowhere,i feel sorry for all you loosers who would rather see liverpool loose just so you’s can slate rafa.come on rafa lets batter spurs on wedensday.y.n.w.a

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

I just feel sorry for the likes of Stevie and Carra who, as local lads, will always give more than 100% for the club, unfortunately with rafa at teh helm the only way you are gonna win the title is to go to another club.
Rafa has spent the last couple of seasons fielding teams ‘not to get beat’ not fielding teams to win. there’s a difference!!
35 year old lifelong liverpool supporter. I will always back my team and the lads on the pitch who take pride in wearing that red shirt, but there are players at LFC at the moment who dont deserve to wear that shirt and a manager who has no passion for the game – That is NOT the liverpool I know and love

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

Rafa out

Graeme Souness and Jamie Redknapp for liverpool

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

how about david burrows and mike marsh

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

i know mark lawrenson and alan hansen as his assistant

anonymous - January 18th, 2010 at 11:33 pm

what about Niel Ruddock and Julien Dicks

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 12:02 am

Retryboy – January 18th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

Evening all-why isn’t rafa letting the weak squad players go? There were buyers in for degen

do you believe everything you read in the papers

in the papers they said rafa was gonna buy mathiew upson for 15mil

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 12:10 am

1 reason rafa will stay,hes the best man for the job.

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 12:13 am

How about get rid of the f***king owners! How is any manager supposed to do his job with Laurel and Hardy in charge. Get a new manager and it will be the same ..old story

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 12:15 am

anonymous – January 19th, 2010 at 12:10 am

agree with you 100percent

fuck all the rafa haters go fuckin support villa

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 1:16 am

to January 19th, 2010 at 12:10 am
then y are lfc out of all domestic comps and the CL

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 2:19 am

RETARD boy + KUNTmit = Aston Vila supporter

DonAvan shit = O’Neill’s mistress

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 2:44 am

Retryboy – January 18th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
“Evening all-why isn’t rafa letting the weak squad players go? There were buyers in for degen rafa should show faith in Darby and kelly and let the swiss man go. Kyrgiakos again people are getting swayed by being able to stand there and head long balls away first person with a bit of skill or pace running at him and he will be torn to shreds we have san jose, kelly and ayala we don’t need him. Itandje, plessis, el zhar ok won’t bring in a lot but its still money and cutting the wage bill. Rafa is again just refusing to cut the squad size or show any ruthless streak…except with Babel. Would sell Kuyt personally he shouldn’t even be considered as an option RM he offers nothing there and up front we have a lot better options could raise the cash for turan that way.”

Hey Retryboy, let me know when you are in town. I have played football for 25 years and represented various levels. Now too old for a good old competitive game. So coaching teams of boys age between 8-18. Tell you something from my little experience of football that you know shit about football. Let me know when you are in town – cause i want to stay away from you. You write lots of shit.

From what I have read of your stuff so far, I can tell you hate Rafa. Look, I am no big fan of Rafa too but at least do us all a favour. No:1 – please talk sense. That means use brain! No:2 – if you unsure about something, shut up. Your comments about our Greek player and all he can do is head away high balls but lack skill is just so full of shit and reveal your lack of understanding of the game. What do you expect him to do? Trap the high balls in the penalty area? Then do Ronaldinho’s step overs, take on 3 players and try to send a through pass for Ngog to chase? Idiot! No:3 – talk facts, not bullshit. Seems like you just thrive on any bull shit as long as they bash Rafa.

Look the team’s not going great. It’s a combination of different factors. Rafa’s tactics at times seems questionable but who doesn’t get it wrong? There is two ways you can respond to this. First, bash and do what all the tabloid does. Secondly, commit to the team as much as we know it’s not great. It doesn’t mean blind support. How much does it cost you to encourage and be supportive?

The reality is that it will be very hard for anybody who replaces Rafa anyway. What? You think the new guy who comes in will have 30 million to spend? He will just have to look at the bargain basement as what Rafa is doing. So wake up! Mourinho wouldn’t be coming because there is no sugar daddy to back him. O’Neill is great, i like him but frankly if you put 2 cv’s together, Rafa’s would kick his ass anytime. Capello? Well, i suspect Liverpool cannot afford him. Hiddink? Maybe but he needs money too. How is that different? Maybe John Toshack? He speaks Spanish and might go down well with the Spanish contingent. He is relatively affordable. That said, I am unsure if he also the right man for the job. It’s great to say Kenny to take it up and I love that to happen. Look, I suspect he wouldn’t take it up. So Retry boy, nothing personal and I like your passion but use some sense. We all hate the way everything is happening but you are not helping too. You talk lots of shit.

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 3:00 am

With a special dedication to you Retryboy:
Hey Retryboy, let me know when you are in town. I have played football for 25 years and represented various levels. Now too old for a good old competitive game. So coaching teams of boys age between 8-18. Tell you something from my little experience of football that you know shit about football. Let me know when you are in town – cause i want to stay away from you. You write lots of shit.

From what I have read of your stuff so far, I can tell you hate Rafa. Look, I am no big fan of Rafa too but at least do us all a favour. No:1 – please talk sense. That means use brain! No:2 – if you unsure about something, shut up. Your comments about our Greek player and all he can do is head away high balls but lack skill is just so full of shit and reveal your lack of understanding of the game. What do you expect him to do? Trap the high balls in the penalty area? Then do Ronaldinho’s step overs, take on 3 players and try to send a through pass for Ngog to chase? Idiot! No:3 – talk facts, not bullshit. Seems like you just thrive on any bull shit as long as they bash Rafa.

Look the team’s not going great. It’s a combination of different factors. Rafa’s tactics at times seems questionable but who doesn’t get it wrong? There is two ways you can respond to this. First, bash and do what all the tabloid does. Secondly, commit to the team as much as we know it’s not great. It doesn’t mean blind support. How much does it cost you to encourage and be supportive?

The reality is that it will be very hard for anybody who replaces Rafa anyway. What? You think the new guy who comes in will have 30 million to spend? He will just have to look at the bargain basement as what Rafa is doing. So wake up! Mourinho wouldn’t be coming because there is no sugar daddy to back him. O’Neill is great, i like him but frankly if you put 2 cv’s together, Rafa’s would kick his ass anytime. Capello? Well, i suspect Liverpool cannot afford him. Hiddink? Maybe but he needs money too. How is that different? Maybe John Toshack? He speaks Spanish and might go down well with the Spanish contingent. He is relatively affordable. That said, I am unsure if he also the right man for the job. It’s great to say Kenny to take it up and I love that to happen. Look, I suspect he wouldn’t take it up. So Retry boy, nothing personal and I like your passion but use some sense. We all hate the way everything is happening but you are not helping too. You talk lots of shit.

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 4:43 am

Here are the figures for all Liverpool managers from 1959-present (all competitions):

Years
Total
Games
Wins
Win %

1
Kenny Dalglish
6
307
187
61%

2
Bob Paisley
9
535
307
57%

3
Rafa Benitez
5
315
178
56%

4
Joe Fagan
2
133
70
53%

5
Bill Shankly
15
783
407
52%

6
Gerard Houllier
7
325
165
51%

7
Roy Evans
5
244
123
50%

8
Graeme Souness
3
157
65
41%

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 6:05 am

bye bye rafa

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am

dont support raffa or suffer He keeps playing the likes of kuyt ……lucas…..masharano…no goog pasing ability game after game zonal marking dose not work so why he plays the same crap ANSWER is he is a crap manager he was sacked from real madrid second team for fuck sack.masharano could not get into whest ham first team.rafa has had 200 mill to spend

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 11:55 am

Hey, whoever wrote the earlier piece in dedication to Retryboy, I salute you!!!! Well done! One advice though is to ignore his crap. By the way, mate, if you hadn’t realise too, most of us call him RETARD boy. He just doesn’t get it so save your breathe.

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

He gets pissed off with anons
From Anon Anons Anonymous

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

Popular as ever I see Retardboy.

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 2:53 pm

With a win percentage of 56% – easily comparable to Wenger and Fergie (who both have had bad spells, and more importantly – TIME – longer than Rafa) – there is a VERY STRONG argument for continuity.

Fans wanted Fergie gone during his first five years and back in 02-03. Only last season, some Arsenal fans were calling for Wenger to go citing the ‘fact’ he had taken them as far as he could. Even Ancelotti had a ‘poor’ season with AC Milan in 08 when they finished 5th – but bounced back the following year. Rafa himself won the league with Valencia – the next season was 5th, but won the league again the following year.

We aren’t that short – we’re 3/4 wins worse off than last season, which bearing injuries in mind is explicable. We know we need to strengthen, but how is it possible with zero funds??

As for the quote about Liverpool legends…… well how many of them have tried management? Souness?

And the other comment about playing defenders as wingers….. I mean how outdated are you. If a player can adapt to a role elsewhere – why not? Anyone remember Steve Staunton playing centre mid and up front when Kenny was manager? Just because a recognised full back is playing on the wing does NOT mean they are playing as a full back. Homer Simpson!

Continuity is my belief and the owners should go – but the likelihood of them going is not good. Do some of you really want another 5 years of rebuilding with budget buys on ‘maybe’ players? Or would you sooner see Rafa have funding to bring in more like Agger, Reina, Alonso, Johson, Torres and Mascherano? See when he has bought big, his record is almost impeccable.

Joe

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

im with retryboy on this one!!! he knows what hes talking about, hes got the balls to face facts and not live in denial like all u faggotts

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

hey guess what all you rafa lovers…..
rafa has not only knocked u out of every comp this season except the europa league, which lets face it he will, but hes also gonna make sure u dont make the champs league next season hahahahahahahaha so i can se all ya points for supportting rafa.
lets all blame the owners and money and injuries cuz i love rafa and i want his ass hahaha

anonymous - January 19th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

EVERY DOG HAS THERE DAY

anonymous - January 20th, 2010 at 3:25 am

Retryboy – January 19th, 2010 at 3:30 am …… Just reading some post,..
Question Mate…… Have you ever noticed how alot of the anonymous rafites claim to be Teachers, Football Coaches, Ex Footballers,or They work at anfield?…..
“easy, medium and hard on your ps2″ ……. LMAO

anonymous - January 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

Eh…puki mak…tidak kasih saya post. Ah..lanjau Caught Offside..ahahaha

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anonymous - January 21st, 2010 at 4:46 am

Any Liverpool fans on here slagging Rafa.. go find another club we dont need fickle fans, making an opinion based on Media crap!!! we know the facts!

Rafa is the man

anonymous - January 21st, 2010 at 11:03 pm

seems douche-bag ried is the only one who listens to gillett,and why should gerrard speak about tabloid bullshit unless he’s asked in an interview if it’s true.

anonymous - January 27th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

so some of you rafa fans who blame rick parry for all the bad players we have brought well why do you all give rafa credit for buying alonso, torres and reina if rick parry brought all the crap players he should take credit for the good players we have brought. rafa tactics are inept and i bet any one on here we will never win the league under rafa and might take a few months but liverpool fans will turn on him it only because of the american owners that the fans back him

anonymous - January 28th, 2010 at 2:25 am

I’ve been saying for a long time “get Rafa out”.
What has he done? Nothing. We won the Champions League despite of him, not because of him.
How many times have you heard the word bizarre used about his decisions, and do these decisions turn out to be genius, No, they prove to be idiotic!
He’s had enough time and it isn’t working.

anonymous - March 11th, 2010 at 4:16 am

i totally agree with this article!!! i’m strongly against rafa benitez… he has no idea about training skills and signings what so ever….!!!