Liverpool Set to Sign Prolific Striker to Play Alongside Fernando Torres

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 11:15 am

Why is he setting up all these deals he won’t even be here

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 11:47 am

I HAVE a strange feeling it would happen……………….
for jones looks miles away and no prolifc strikers here so a cost effective
soln like RODRIGUEZ but still a GAMBLE for i don’t know how well he will
come out for us ……………………………

anyways ALL THE CHANCES IT MAY HAPPEN FOR HE’S A FINE STRIKER.

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 11:48 am

Retryboy – January 20th, 2010 at 11:15 am

Why is he setting up all these deals he won’t even be here

TAKE A WILD GUESS WHY ????????

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 11:52 am

anonymous – January 20th, 2010 at 11:13 am
AGREED dude………………

i think we should offer him a good salary but only on PAY AS PER PERFORMANCE basis ……..

though not sure he wuld accept it but its worth a try ………………………

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 11:55 am

anonymous – January 20th, 2010 at 11:51 am

why not …………………….
money matters BUT HE KNOWS WE WON’T STARVE HIM…………………

ALSO HE WANTS TO COME HERE …………………..

ample opputunities for him considering our LEAD STRIKER GETS INJURED
EVERY 3RD GAME……..

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 11:58 am

THOUGH I AM NOT SURE OF THIS NEWS’ .SOURCE……………………………….

READ it 3/4 days ago we were competing with acmilan for him ..but
not read anything on him recently

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

anonymous – January 20th, 2010 at 11:56 am

WELL SAID ……………
Our financial constraints indeed are doing us a lot of bad things……………………
we sure need 2 or 3 match winners like silva, aguero,turan and take anyname…………

bcoz these average signings too take a lot of money in wages.
SO IT SHOULD BE A RULE TO SIGN ONLY THE BEST IN THE MARKET …….
AND ITS NOT TOO HYPOTHETICAL IF YOU SEE AT IT.

TURAN FOR 15/18M WOULD BE A BARGAIN..+ A CLASS SINGNING

BUT IF WE INDEED SIGN HIM IT WOUN’T BE A FAULT FOR 2 REASON’S

1 . HE’S NOT BAD …………….HE SCORES EVERY SECOND MATCH HE PLAYS

2.PLUS WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN STRIKING DEPT IN ABSENCE OF TORRES AND THAT’S IT.
FOR WE HAVE LIKES OF PACHEO AND NEMETH IN THE MAKING …………..

SO HE COULD COVER FOR THAT PERIOD………………

I KNOW THE REASON FOR UR DISGUST BUT CAN;T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT AGREEING WITH U.

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

in last post by
“BUT IF WE INDEED SIGN HIM IT WOUN’T BE A FAULT FOR 2 REASON’S”

i was referring to Milan Jovanovic’s

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

also when i worte this
“I KNOW THE REASON FOR UR DISGUST BUT CAN;T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT AGREEING WITH U.”

it HASN’T GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR COMMENT ON RETRY BOY ……
I MEANT YOUR DISGUST ON OUR FINANCIAL STATUS

Aquaman - January 20th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

Yet another piece of transfer wizardry by the boss.

For all the comments of Rafa not having man management skills, he always seems to get his man once he has a chat. Torres, Johnson, Aquilani, Babel etc etc all had dozens of other clubs after them. But as soon as they chatted with Rafa, suddenly the only place they want to go is Liverpool. Rafa is the transfer guru.

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

Anon 11.56 where did you learn english? “And will be one less of a whiny fan…or what do you think???you overstaying..” i think its trying to communicate! Just stand in the corner, bounce your ball and try not to drool on the sofa! Bpl-seems like a publicity stunt to me, everything will be ok next year cos we will have Chamakh and jovanovic warming the bench with Aquilani.

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

YA CAN’T SAY anything the season has been so fucking bad and

transfer well we can’t predict anything unless it happens .
well have wanted to ask u whom do u have BABEL OR KENYWYNE JONES
ASSUMING WE HAVE TO SELL BABEL TO HAVE HIM

FOR ONCE U MENTIONED UR LIKING OF JONES A FEW MONTHS AGO…….

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm

the last question was for RETRY as well as aquaman

Nico - January 20th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

Should be a good signing!
Should is the key word there though…

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

I like jones think he is a good player just not what we need think all the options up front can come from the squad and we need a LM player and a LB priority and we need to keep Babel.

tintaal - January 20th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

benitez will probably play aurelio up front and make jovanovic fight for his place…

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

Anon 12.42 FACT-we have been shit for 90% of games this year FACT-we have played 30 games and been knocked out of 4 competitions we have entered FACT-rafa has lost the plot with his decisions all season FACT-this is the most open title race in however many years with up to 5 teams still in it and we are 4 points adrift of fourth place not involved at all. FACT-watching liverpool play Rafa’s style is sacrilege to all that have gone before FACT-i am fed up with people holding up one 2nd place in 5 years as a great achievement when if it wasn’t for his love affair with lucas and bloody defensiveness we would have won the title!! FACT-soon as rafa is gone the better!

Aquaman - January 20th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

Would I rather have Babel or Jones? Tough one.

If you mean as a striker then Jones, no question. Babel doesn;t have the composure required.

Hmm. Actually yes, I’d rather have Jones. Even out of the striker role. Babel has been pretty much useless to us, and (while I’d still prefer Cole to Jones) Jones will give us some strength and height up front.

Aquaman - January 20th, 2010 at 1:34 pm

And while we’re at it, I’ll have a platinum Ferrari .

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

Funny how most rafa fans slag off Babel. Can’t admit that he has just been ridiculously mismanaged otherwise st rafa would have to take some responsibility. Should look at Bellamy’s performance last night…well all season, but last night he played 3 positions and was quality in all of them.

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

good point aquaman if their is something good about Rafa is that he gets in some good players at times. i think his best buys were Alonso Torres and Garcia people forget about how good Garcia was he was the man who scored the goals that got us into the Champions league Final and The Fa cup against Chelsea.

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

Retryboy why must you be so Pessimistic when it comes to Liverpool i understand things are terrible but you have to look to what we might be able to bring in and fix it just have a bit of faith if things go wrong then Rafa will probably be out the door.

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

Garcia was totally wasteful so frustrating to watch then again sure he was never played on his right side if i remember rightly

heimdall - January 20th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

Garcia was equally annoying. Rafa’s best signings are Torres, Alonso and Reina but lets not forget the ones that didn’t quite work out like Dossena, Degan, Babel, Keane, Josemi etc etc etc.

BTW if we finsih outside of top 4 this year then we are screwed, think about a Leeds type scenario, do you still want to give rafa the extra time to magically turn it around. The only thing that is saving us at the moment is that our competitors for 4th are also stumbling a bit but Man City are looking stronger and stronger every game and Villa and Spurs are much better sides than us currently.

Jed - January 20th, 2010 at 1:48 pm

hey is anyone on here good with ebay? i need to know how to cancel a bid…i went to buy a “mickey mouse outfit” and realised im 30mins away from owning Liverpool FC!!!!

on a serious note tho tottingham at 3/1 in the morning looks very juicy to me

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

Your mum’s pussy looks very juicy to me Jed! Oh no thats seepage!! Tell the dirty Bitch to go vets or something Jed its stinking up the place or is that your Chelski loving breath?

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

Its funny how serbian red only has the bollocks to sign the posts that aren’t insulting people Fucking pussy!

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 2:29 pm

Saying that i would rather we lose games is Fucking insulting to me. Not exactly the first time you have come on here anonymously insulting me though is it? Thats why i never answered your original point at 1.08, so you come back Bitching. Got no time for people who spend their time anonymously throwing shit seem to remember our last argument that started you off before was over Babel too? I think he will be a Fucking great player given the chance under a decent manager. So i will say so. Will look forward to ignoring your next anon posts too Fucking muppet

kopman - January 20th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

Well i think bring him in, im really confused with all the fans they hammered rafa for not bringing in cover for torres and now that hes getting rid of our bad players and bringing in cover they are giving rafa even more stick, make your minds up you cant hammer some one for not doing what you want and then carry on when he does it, yes this guy might not be a huge name but where would we get the money for a big signing?

heimdall - January 20th, 2010 at 3:00 pm

They are giving Rafa stick because this is another crap signing, our next Voronin. I mean the difference between the Belgian league and Premiership is huge so it’s quite unlikely he’ll be a success.

heimdall - January 20th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

For the record if loosing a few games means getting rid of Rafa then I would personally take those losses, that is how much damage I think Rafa is causing.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

looking for a good strong line up tonight

————————————–reina————————————–

degen————–carra——————–agger————–aurelio

maxi—————-aquilani—————-masch————–riera

————————-kuyt——————-babel———————–

subs ngog lucas insua skrtel pachecho cavalieri

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

Retry i like your posts but seriously calm down mate no need to come out with a ton of swearing abuse at a sad Chelsea supporter on a Liverpool Forum.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

i think we will beat spurs tonight and quite convincingly 2-0 , i have a good feeling about it

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

if we win we are just a point off fourth spot

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

hi Kermit good to meet you the team looks good but we all know that wont be fielded.

this is a probable Rafa team.

Reina

Degen carra agger insua

Masch

Kuyt Aquilani lucas maxi

N’gog

that is what Rafa will put out becuase heis as stubborn as a mule
your team however Kermit is better but i would look to play N’gog up with Kuyt. because those to look a good partnership in the Wigan game as Aquman pointed out. sorry if my team layout is shit i dont usually post teams.

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

Nick- have got anger issues today lol have given up smoking was trying a day without the patches think i should put one on! Jed though deserves everything he gets he only comes on here to wind up liverpool fans doesn’t even comment on his own team plastic flag waving tosser that he is!

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

Kermit would have Darby for degen much better defensively and pacheco for Kuyt somebody to put through Babel with the killer pass.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

maybe, but i d bring pachecho on with thirty mins left, not sure if this is the right game to throw pachecho in at the deep end and i think kuyt and babel have a pretty good understanding together. he d def be someone that would be coming off the bench as the game wore on. not sure whether beintez will play with aquilani and madch central either
i d expect three in midfield babel up front alone kuyt right and one of maxi or riera left with masch and lucas holding and aquilani a little more advanced but we will have to wait and see
i m not watching if aurelio is playing left wing

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

i can understand Retry i got a Brother who is quiting and he is the edgiest person i know at the moment. Jed does deserve it but just ignore him he just a sad person plus i would probably play Darby but not Pacheco Retry this game is too important to take risks.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

hi nick, erm ngog and kuyt did play well up front together against wigan but they were ably assisted by bennayoun on the right who was superb that day the trio linked up well., ngog had a bad day out last time , not solely his fault suplly and support form midfield or the wings was seriously lacking, actually lucas looked like the only player that actually wanted to win the game
i d rather us play with two up top but its possible rafa will play babel up there alone tonight, ngog def can t do it , kuyt can t do it and rafa likes his favourite systemn doesnt he

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

torres and ngog doesnt work together he tried that in the first game against reading, i d rather him give babel and torres a go up front together

i expect aurelio to play left wing tonight for some reason and thats gonna make me want to switch off before the game even starts

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

okay lucas is suspended that makes the 4-4-2 a viable option then

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

yeah Rafa will probably play one up front but if im honest we need 2 up there if we are going to take the game to Spurs we need to play well form the whistle and to the end however my prediction 1-1. spurs will be the better team and overall we will scrape a draw. hate to sound negative but it is my opinion if Rafa will be his usual.

Jed - January 20th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

whats the matter retry you got sand in your vagina? go get a job u sad fuck you’ve got nothing, suck it up fag nuts hahahaha

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 4:00 pm

im happy lucas is suspended that way more chances for Aquilani.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

okay lucas is noit suspended according to bbc sport

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

i m feeling positive and still think we will win 2-0

Jed - January 20th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

oh u want a comment do u?? i made all my comments in the summer when rafa was your god and your were 100% gonna win the league…you want a comment dickhead?? “chelsea #1….liverpool #7″ we put 7 past a team that beat your sorry excuse for a side…the reason i havnt been posting is cos my team is doing the talking for me….i made all my predictions and opinions heard i know you all know now how right i was!! so once again, suck it up fag nuts

Jed - January 20th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

kermit your on drugs…..ive got a grand on tottenham or draw, will be the easiest 500 profit ever!!

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

You get all your quotes off south park Jed? Whats the matter can’t think of anything yourself? …no Jed i don’t have a job don’t need one at the moment making more money by doing up my place and selling it about 30k pure profit while you spend your time giving blowjobs to truck drivers for 10p a time hating the fact that someday you will look up and see the family resemblence and finally meet your daddy!! Its got to be one of them Jed!! Hey least we know the problems we have you aren’t going to win a thing this season the Chelski pensioners all over 30 are then going to be barred from transfers for three seasons whereas all we need is a change of manager you need a whole squad!

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

Anon-Ngog and Torres would never work they are too similar in style. Torres, Babel and ngog need someone just behind them linking like Benayoun, Nemeth, Kuyt, pacheco. Nemeth’s style suits Torres best of all. They would be awesome together as would yossi just behind him.

Reds Lewis - January 20th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

not sure u can say that hes “prolific” and he isnt proven in a phsyical and decent league….and at 28 Id avoid him. Waste of wages

Aquaman - January 20th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

Sigh.

Just because he’s free that does not mean that he’s crap. Some players leave for free because their clubs have refused to sell them to other bigger clubs due to their importance. Saying that he’s the next Voronin is very close minded. Remember that Michael Owen was signed on a free and we used to sing his name with pride.

Branigan: Welcome. I assume the introduction was to say that you’ve only signed up recently (If I’m wrong then forgive me, I’ve been away). Anyways good post. Look forward to reading more.

Jed: Sigh. Just when I thought that you might have caught the civil virus (which causes good manners), you prove me wrong. Oh well. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

Reds Lewis: Indeed he may prove to be a waste of wages, but the difference is that Rafa isn’t restricted as rigidly in this department. So sign him for free now, sell him in a year and you’ve got more transfer funds for someone else. As should have been the case with Voronin (but the yanks hid his money in their secret hidey hole under their pillows so that he couldn’t find it).

Mickeyfinn1983 - January 20th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

Babel was considered a “talent” but he has fucked that up himself, NOT RAFA! It’s not Rafa’s fault that he comes from a football club who teach their youngsters 1 way of playing… The Ajax formation…. Superstars to have ever emerged from the Ajax academy are general in the center of the field, Center back, Center midfield and Center Forward, the only winger that was any good to come from Ajax was Marc Overmars and even then he only became really successful at undisciplined sides like Arsenal and Barcelona who in that time played with bags of freedom… Rafa has given him the time and he is still as predictable as when he started…. Whenever i see him one on one with any full back you always knows he is going to cut in field, you also know that 80% of the time he is going to lose possession and that puts our defence under pressure… Anybody who blames Rafa for Babel’s lack of showing his potential is a football illiterate and blind as a bat!

Mickeyfinn1983 - January 20th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

bullshit! Klaas Jan Huntelaar was their center forward and before him it was Charisteas, Ryan Babel is and has always been a left winger or in the Ajax formation a Left Forward,Never a centre forward!

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

Mickeyfinn why do you think he cuts inside all the time? Because he is right footed and played on the left? Radical thinking i know could play him on the right where he has had about 4 outings none longer than half an hour and looked quality each time. 15 minutes there this season against west ham and set up the winner with a great cross oh and about 4 minutes at reading before rafa swapped him with Kuyt to play up front with ngog as you have seen above we have been discussing how that would never work like ngog/Torres but hey what do we know. We only say things before games and then read the exact same things in the posts after the game. Rafa has stuck by lucas for god knows how many games and eventually got an average player…proved everyone wrong there eh rafa? If Babel had been given quarter of his chances then he would be a world star and before you say its because of how he trains open your eyes to the fact that rafa only plays between 2 and very rarely 4 attacking players with Gerrard, Kuyt and Torres taking automatic places god knows why in Kuyts case there is only one place left for Babel and 10 other attacking players to fight for could that be why hardly any attacking players actually do well here?

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

now ON THIS NOT MANY PEOPLE MAY AGREE

BUT do u think we should get TORRES AND GERRARD FULLY FIT

AND FULLY FIT MEANS THERE KNEE ,HERNIA, kidney ,heart ,brain WHATEVER THEY ARE CARRYING TO BE CURED ,,,,for its the only

time ,season’s already ruined and WHEN NOT FULLY FIT THEY MAY NOT
HELP SAVE OUR SEASON……………………………………………………..

GET THEM BACK ONLY WHEN THEY ARE FIT AND FRESH TO DELIVER
WITH ALL THE OPERTATIONS THEY REQUIRE DONE ………………………

MEANWHILE GET THE YOUNGSTERS INTO THE TEAM.

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

Great post and welcome to the site branigan agree totally except i think its the tactics and lack of other attacking players that make us a 2 man team. We have enough talent not to be.

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

Totally Bpl Torres has gone for a knee op why not do the hernia too? Because it would add 2/3 weeks onto the recovery who cares?! He will be properly fit not patched up. Gerrard we have Aquilani who can fill in

Mickeyfinn1983 - January 20th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

Retryboy, first and foremost i would like to say that your post makes sense in some areas but i think you are underestimating other players… For example, last season Dirk Kuyt scored 13 goals and had 9 assists to his name….. Yossi benayoun Scored 9 goals and had 8 assists….. Albert Riera scored 5 goals contributed to 6 assists…. RYAN BABEL has scored 9 goals in 63 fucking games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ajax record 14 in 74 games, so really he has always been overhyped!

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

nah jed i just think this is it chips are down time its a big match, we are at home and we all seem to do well whenever there is a big one coming up, we beat utd when we desperately needed too and i foresee a big performance tonight

i also thoiught that chelsea would steam roller the premiership this year.
utd are living on past glories and rooney
arsenal are a good side but lack some steel still
man city will be big not there yet though, missing a few midfielders and a left back
we still dont have a bad squad when everyone is fit, we dont have the finances to have squad players like chelsea have. i mean you have the likes of deco sat on the bench every game.
chelsea were brillaint against sunderland, i watched the game and anyone that says chelsea dont play attractive football at the moment is kidding themselves.

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

Just want to see us have a real go at a game for once tonight, 5 attacking players on the pitch even if one of them is Kuyt(not on the right though please) am afraid we will see attacking fullbacks/defensive wingers again in insua/Aurelio degen/Kuyt rather than defenders defending attackers attacking that Darby/maxi and Aurelio/Riera why has rafa always got to reinvent the wheel come on back to basics and we will win!

BPL_WILL_BE_PAINTED_RED. - January 20th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH RETRY THAT HE MISPLACED AND LESS PLAYED ………..

HE DOES LOSE POSSESSION BUT THEN EVERY BODY DOES THAT COULD ALWAYS BE IMPROVED UPON ………….

POINT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE SUCCESSFULLY TAKES THE BALL PAST THE DEFENDER ….GOAL…………..WE CALL IT

HE TRIES DIFFERENT …………………………..THAT’S IT……………………………..

Mickeyfinn1983 NICE OBSERVATION ……….ABOUT AJAX FORMATION…………..

BUT IT DOESN’T PROVES A SHIT ABOUT WHETHER BABEL IS A GOOD PLAYER OR NOT ………………………………..
I CAN’T PREDICT ABOUT HIS FUTURE …………..BUT FOR SURE HE HAS A FUTURE IF NOT HERE THAN ELSEWHERE…………………………………………

For example, last season Dirk Kuyt scored 13 goals and had 9 assists to his name….. Yossi benayoun Scored 9 goals and had 8 assists….. Albert Riera scored 5 goals contributed to 6 assists…. RYAN BABEL has scored 9 goals in 63 fucking games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
”
DON’T U THINK KUYT ,BENNY AND RIERA GOT MORE OR LESS FULL GAMES WHILE BABEL HE WAS A LATE SUB ……………………SO FUCKING 9 GOALS LOOK GOOD.

spike - January 20th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

i personally think kenwyn jones will be agreat acquisiton….
firstly i’m trinidadian too,secondly hes better than any of our strikers except torres…….
babel will be a better cf then ngog…..ngog has no ball control

Mickeyfinn1983 - January 20th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

One of my dearest friends who lives in Belgium is an Ajax supporter and when i lived there we always used to watch footie together… He would watch the Liverpool games with me and i would watch the Ajax games, it ended up to be fantastic conversations…. Ryan Babel was on many occassions the center of discussion because he rated him highly and i didn’t… I always liked Sneijder, Van Der Vaart, Vermaelen and their current goalkeeper Stekelenburg… The reason i didn’t like him was not because he couldn’t react on instinct, which he can, it’s when he receives the ball and is given a second to think about it, which for me is the most necessary skill that will make or break you and in Babel’s case it’s unfortunately break.

Another thing i have observed, which didn’t come from those days but from watching him in a liverpool shirt is his lack of game intelligence and how quickly he lets his head down…. When Babel comes on as a substitute or starts in the starting line up you can always see whether he is going to have a good game or a bad one…. The first dribble, if this is a success he will have a good game or should i say a good 5 to 10 minute spell. But, whenever the defender gets the better of him he just loses the plot and starts giving the ball away at every opportunity….

People on here are getting my point wrong… I am not against Babel i just don’t think he warrants a first team selection…. Many on here are blaming our poor form on the fact that Rafa has lost the plot because he doesn’t play Babel but when he does and we lose, its still Rafa’s fault because babel played “Badly” because he doesn’t get enough time in the team….. WRONG!

WE ARE LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB FFS! You don’t get freebies at big clubs you have to earn the right to put on that red jersey not the other way around!

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

Shouldn’t use wikipedia as a source mickey they just use premier league goals and Babel scored 11 in his first season here alone 5/13 in the champions league! Liverpool totals 97 apps 18 goals 13 assists total mins 4573 averaging 41 mins he gets a goal every 254 mins in his liverpool career works out better than one in 3 and gets you a goal or assist every 147 mins so every game and a half he will get you a goal or assist played out of position and Kuyt?? Managed one assist in 20 hours of football this season. Know who i would have in my team. Google liverpool-Kop ryan Babel very interesting reading.

Reds Lewis - January 20th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

Id like to see kyrgiakos in the team tonight, to combat against crouch…he was v. good last week

Mickeyfinn1983 - January 20th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

I have read it and still doesn’t change my mind…. Probably every player apart from the back 4, goalkeeper, Gerrard and Torres have been Subbed in 60% of the games…. It isn’t rocket science back 4 + Reina + Gerrard + Torres + Kuyt = 8, so that inevitably leaves 3 players who will see a lot of the bench and will be subbed on most occassions….

The best example i can give is Yossi Benayoun, he was used on many occassions as a sub last season until when he was given the opportunity, he took it and established himself to be in the starting line up….

On a note, Witch hunts like that article, don’t take too much notice of them mate, because they misrepresent statistics to prove their point…. Example, “in the season 08/09, Liverpool won 70% of their games when Babel started” Well of course, we only lost 2

...samlfc.... - January 20th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

hmmmmm it might be an ok signing but i tihnk our second striker needs to be abit more like a Tevez player as in he scores plenty of goals but provides important pases as i think someone like him wold help Torres or N’gog.

Good posts from Aquaman (is there a time when their isn’t), and Branigan (by the way welcome to the site.)

Jed: I think the same as aquaman.

Reds Lewis - January 20th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

samlfc is bang on. we need a tevez…

Jed - January 20th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

@ Retryboy – upgrading your cardboard box wont net you 30k buddy….back to the drawing board champ

@ Aquaman – i am civil to you all except for the waste of space that is retryboy…go back and read the posts again and tell me who the uncivl, unintelligent oxygen thief is, he goes for you team…..

@ Anonymous – how can u say “if it wasnt for abramovich’s money you’d have nothing” when you and your fellow liverpool supporters desperately want an arab consortium to bail you out??? be hypocritical isnt it? yeah we have a great owner compared to the shite you have running your club, and the shite running united, and we owe him alot, but say what you like i’m much happier seeing my team be successful than you are seeing a once great club turn to shit.

@ Kermit – when you beat united, yes it was against the odds and no, i didnt think it would happen, but then again, gerrard and torres were playing….this is a team who has already beaten you 3-1 and are getting two of their strikers back for this….good luck but i think i’ll be collecting on this one

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

luis suarez should be our tevez

Reds Lewis - January 20th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

suarez is no tevez lol….hes playing in a very lightweight league.
we need somebody with a bit of bulk, and still some pace and that passion that tevez has… suarez don’t have that

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

shoulda signed tevez

Retryboy - January 20th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

Mickey finn-still think your maths is a bit out Reina, plus back four, plus Gerrard, Torres and Kuyt = 8 yes but what about the 2 holding midfielders you have forgotten them which leaves one position that gets subbed all the time. Yossi doesn’t command a starting place much to my annoyance as he should be central behind Torres and Gerrard CM not holding in a 4-4-2. As for the statistics think the ones you came on with had mislead you a lot more seeing as though if you look at things like that Aquilani has had 9 appearances all competitions 0 assists 0 goals what a terrible player eh lol think you even get an appearance for being an unused sub so obviously the minutes played matter!! The statement about the 2008/2009 isn’t misleading at all there is a big difference in winning and not losing someone should tell rafa that. Anyways off to the pub come on lads!! Babel hat-trick lol

...samlfc.... - January 20th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

Kuyt could play second striker as i think that him and Tevez are similar but Tevez scores more goals. if we had 2 out and out strikers i think it wouldn’t work as they will both concentrate on getting goals and so they will both shoot at any possibility instead of a clever pass like what Tevez does.
i do think Kuyt should have a game or 2 as second striker with N’gog…..i think it might just work.

Mickeyfinn1983 - January 20th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

last time i checked 4 +1(Reina) + 1(Gerrard) + 1(Torres) + 1(Kuyt)= 8……..11-8= 3…… So unless you are one of those 8 you are either going to be a sub or be subbed!

Reds Lewis - January 20th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

Degen starts on the right wing again, with 2 potential right wingers sat on the bench.

Kuyt is up front on his own again (HAS NEVER WORKED)

and Carra is at right back……

were screwed.

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

i have just seen the team oh dear oh dear carragher right back degen on the wing? Rodriguez left out and surprise surprise kuyt is up on his own when the fuck will benitez learn to play TWO strikers.

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

jed please go to a chelsea forum or go kill yourself your parents told me that they hated you anyway and tell your mum to clean her fanny hole.

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

COME ON LIVERPOOL!!! we can do this i know we can just got to hope kuyt works well. hope to see Rodriguez come on around 65 mins depending on the score.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo come on dirky boy

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

fuck you spurs

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

LOVELY GOAL FROM KUYT WELL TAKEN. COME ON PRESS FOR A SECOND ONE.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

beautifully taken goal

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

we aren t playing too badly either

nicklovesliverpool - January 20th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

so far so good Well taken goal however Mascherano needs to calm down and have you seen the 3 fouls on Degen disgusting Spurs getting frustrated in my opinion hope to see a good second half.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

great save reina

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

half time and a pretty good performance

Red_Phoenix - January 20th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

Well done Liverpool.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

well fucking done darby

Red_Phoenix - January 20th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

At last a win without Gerrard and Torres. Hope it continues.

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

like i said this afternoon jed 2-0

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 11:01 pm

that was the turning point of the season

kermit - January 20th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

just had a positive vibe all day about this match

Liverpool FC Danny - January 20th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

It could have been 4- or 5-0!!!!

Red_Phoenix - January 20th, 2010 at 11:03 pm

Think the Stoke game got the lads fighting. It was just we needed.

Two wins and not a bad start to the year. Now we have to stay in sight of fourth spot (which i think we will get with or without Rafa).

Mickeyfinn1983 - January 20th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

to all of you anti Rafa’s….. Fuck you! he has the full team still right behind him, they ran a high paced marathon tonight for Rafa…. Guess he hasn’t lost the changing room afterall!

YNWA ! COME ON YOU REDS!

trav09 - January 21st, 2010 at 7:47 am

ANON 12:38 am. You know it would of served you well if you actually bothered to read RETRY’s & DONOVANS POSTS carefully. Then you may have some credibility in what you say. Retry does NOT slag the Rafa for the sake of it, when he has criticism of him, he states why. MOST IRWT ers, will come on here and abuse them and say RAFA is the man for the job, but never have I seen one IRWT come on here an state 5 reasons why he is the best, how he is going to turn around the season, and why someone else could not do better.

GET IT INTO YOUR BRAINS, you do not have to agree with donovan, retry or myself, but dont come on here saying we shouldnt support liverpool. You have no right to do so, and your simply wrong.

If you think rafa is the man to lead us to success, FAIR ENOUGH
If you think Rafa should be sacked, Fair ENOUGH
IF you continue to SUPPORT Liverpool….GOOD ENOUGH

trav09 - January 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am

You know anon 8:06, what ever you have been smoking, I’m sure its illegal. I think you meant to say Torres is OVERATED not UNDERATED, but I dont want to argue with you too much because as the saying goes” whose the more foolish? The fool, or someone who argues with a fool?”

Mickeyfinn1983 - January 21st, 2010 at 4:51 pm

What i don’t understand about all of this is the following:

Our first choice starting 11 is probably the best in the league, on many occassions this has been proven!……. Yet, some dickheads on here think cashing in on players like Steven Gerrard(best all-round midfielder in the world) and Fernando Torres(Best Complete Striker in the world) is the way forward? *confused*

Rafa Benitez is one of the best managers in the world, track record speaks for itself!…. Yet, we should get rid of him and get Guus Hiddink(who only stopped the rot at chelsea, did not make them better) or Alex Mcleish(who last year was still in the Championship)? *Again Confused*

Yet, nobody is fighting the cause of the real problem at Anfield….. The Owners!
We are Liverpool and we have always had to wheel and deal in the transfer market… We have never been able to buy a bunch of world class players per year except maybe in the 80’s but we always seem to come up with a genius signing every couple of years.
I couldn’t give a rats ass if we have owners who can spend a shedload of money in the transfer market, what does bother me however, is i don’t like owners or anyone for that matter promise me the world and in the end getting nothing…..These Yankeedoodles promised us

- A new stadium (looks good on paper and in 3D image but it still aint there, and aint looking to be built anytime this century)

- Funds for Transfers (We always have to sell before we can buy, so basically this is a lie too)

- no debt on the club(hmmmmmmmm, like they say in texas….. BULLLLLLLLLLSHIT)

You can replace managers with other managers and you can keep doing that for the next decade, it still won’t change the fact that it won’t get better than what Rafa has to offer….

In the words of Jose Mourinho: “to make an omelette you need eggs, no eggs, no omelette… Some eggs are more expensive than other eggs… but, a good omelette requires good eggs!!!!!”

trav09 - January 21st, 2010 at 11:19 pm

I disagree mickey. I think you have to look at the question of managers in this way?
Who can get the best out of what they have to work with? For most of this season, Rafa has been shithouse.

His Track record may look ok, but, add to his record the fact that he chocked last season. He lost his bottle, when we were 5 points clear and 2 games in hand. He chocked. We got draws against crap teams, largely due to rafas ” go out and dont lose ” mentallity, rather than a go out and win mentallity.

I can’t see him winning us the league, in fact, the next 4 years I feel could be very painful to watch with rafa in command.

He is a destroyer of good young talent, he gives No encouragement, shows no passion, except for his own cause, and is too stubborn. Yes I want him to suceed as that would be good for livers, but, I cant see it happening.

Scouse Magic - January 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 am

Totally agree Trav, the first couple of years i think Rafa done well and last year i don’t know if it was the players or Rafa that choked, but it is clear this season that something is not right.
I think we have 4 World class players in Reina, Carra, Gerrard and Torres with 3 or 4 potentially class youngsters, but Rafa buy’s them and then DOESN’T play them, give them a chance, Darby is not worse then Degen, Pacheco is no worse than Riera/Beni/Kuyt. Dalle Valle looks a class apart in the reserves so for god sake play them.