Liverpool Line Up Move for Unspectacular £7m Mascherano Replacement

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

i hope IF there is any chance of him being available, we should think of De Jong,if not may be benaga..

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

well said…stop with these low profile spending buy quality players..

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

for god’s sake buy banega!!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

Ya its such a mess @ Liverpool now…………World class players r been replaced with players who have not proved anythn worth in there lives………..I just wanna now wether Liverpool r looking 4 the title this season or r they trying 2 avoid relegation

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

Buy Ashley Young instaed….ship out masch for25-30 mil and get figueroa as left back….every player that scores goal of the season is welcome at LFC

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

Is Mascherano really crucial? Found this on another site:

“Over the last three years, Liverpool have won 54% of the Premier League games in which he has featured. Without him, their success rate rises to 65%. Predictably, Liverpool have scored significantly more goals per game (2.25 v 1.88) without a player who has netted just one league goal in Liverpool colours.

That Mascherano is not a match-winner is no surprise, but the real shock lies in the statistic that although Liverpool concede fewer goals with him screening the defence, they have lost 19% of the Premier League games in which he has played, as opposed to 4% without him. That suggests a significant number of 1-0 defeats in which Mascherano offered little or nothing going forward.

His supporters might point to the statistic that Mascherano completed more tackles in the Premier League than any other player last season, but the very fact that the second player on that list is the utterly-unheralded Wigan midfielder Mohamed Diame negates that claim. As does the fact that Mascherano had the worst disciplinary record of any player in the top flight. He certainly makes tackles, but he mistimes enough for it to be a problem”

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

BANEGA!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

BANEGA!!!!!!!!!!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

why would we replace a 26 year old with a 30 year old
why would we replace a 30milion worth player for somebody worth 7 milion
why would we buy him for 7milion when we could buy benega for a extra 3-5milion and he is better and he is 8 years younger
buy either benega or de jong

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

KERMIT

more worryingly dani pachecho hass said he would be open to a move to real soceidad to get more playing time, though personally i think he is trying to tell roy he needs game time. he is the perfect partner for torres

—————————————reina——————————————–
johnson————–carra——————agger——————-figueroa
j.cole——————gerrard————–aquilani—————–jovanovic
——————————pachecho——————————————-
————————————torres——————————————-

i am sure pachecho will get ten to fifteen games this season, roy will definately have been watching the u19 championships and will have taken note

petrov is a decent footballer and much like what roy did at fulham where he primarily signed already mature players , seasoned permier league perfromers like duff, i think he is up to his old tricks here

i see no problems with the addition of petrov to the squad, he would be a useful addition although for the same money there are perhaps other better options available, that being said i wouldnt be too saddened if we do sign petrov as masch s replacement , as petrov is more of a 4-4-2 holding midfielder and a much better passer of the ball than masch. not a bad move quiet, and perhaps a subdued signing that could well prove to be an effective one
leaving us with four to five central midfelders, gerrard aquilani petrov lucas and shelvey
i dont think peopleshould be knocking signings like this, we can t be expecting to sing felipe melo or ramires or essien and getting a top class centre forward
i think it hints at roys footballing philosphy of creating a team rather than a collection of stars
ins petrov 7 million, yakubu 5 million, figueroa 7 million, turan 14 million, huntelaaar on loan

outs masch kuyt riera insua

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

Right we’re not going to get Banega, nor are we gonna get Turan. Get fucking over it. We have no money, we have to cut our cloth. If we sell Masch for 25m, there isn’t a snowballs chance in the yanks giving it all back. We’ll be lucky if Roy gets 10m from it

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

All these ‘experts’ goin on about Banega.. He’d be kicked to the curb in the league in his first season and his transfer fee wouldnt be fair, Petrov is an absolute steal at 7mil.
However i personally would try land Flamini as he’s proven in the league, France’s best midfielder and available for the right money which wud probably still be cheaper than Banega.. who’s never played in the league, doesnt speak english and (not to stereotype) but wud probably end up a mercenary when whoever wins next seasons champions league comes callin..

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

to anon above, what is wrong with the signing of a seasoned professional like petrov , proven in the premier league very underrated and understated much like roy himself, someone who wouldntneed to adapt to the british game, nor the country for that matter, someone who will fit in seamlessly is a model professional and will hit the ground running, i think petrov is the mainstay of villa s success without getting the plaudits he deserves, barry left villa still held their own , milner had a super season along side him last year , only able to beause petrov had his back.
i wouldnt knock this signing , i think it could be a shrewd and very wise signing from roy who is keen to get us up and running from day one in the premier league

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

this wud be a strong side 4 liverpool..
——————————————-reina———————————————————-
—-johnson———–Cara—————Agger—————–Figueroa/bridge——
————————————-lucas/banega————————–
——kuyt—————————-Gerrard———————————Jovanovic——-
——————————–J.Cole————————————————-
————————————————-Torres————————————

I tink that lucas is gud enough to fill the void left by mascherano… but BANEGA wud be great aswell

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:14 pm

Jesus, some of you boys must be riding banega and Turan!!

Seriously though in an ideal world we’d get them both, but because of messr’s Gillett & Hicks we have to aim at bargain basement level. If Woy does have some cash floating around he should be going for the likes of Ireland, De Jong, Bridge. Although I can’t see Citeh letting De Jong go.

But if we do sign Ireland, he has to get rid of the pink and white Bentley he bought his missus!!!!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

does anyone think milan jovanovic looks like davids brother of corrination street ????

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

Good signing. Does an awful lot of donkey work at Villa. Plus he can pass a ball, which gives him one over on Masch!!!!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

1. Mascherano is good, but there are alot of other players who can do his job, but there just underrated.

2. Mascherano is overrated.

3. Sell Mascherano for 25-30million and invest in Felipe Melo or Banega or Cambiasso.

____________________Reina____________________
___Johnson____Carragher____Agger____Figueroa___
_____________________#1_____________________
_____Maxi________Gerrard________Jovanovic_____
___________________J.Cole___________________
__________________Torres___________________

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

If Liverpool are to be challenging for the title ,we need good and experienced PL players and i think that’s what Roy is trying to do,to build a squad with depth.I expect singings like Bent,Parker Bridge,Petrov,G.Cahill L.Young ,nothing too exciting .I’m probably wrong ,that’s just my guess

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:28 pm

Roy, i think you need to realise you are managing liverpool. you are not challenging for a 10th place spot like you did with fulham, stop trying to buy average players, if we are challenging for a top 4 spot or even the title buy world class players!!!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:29 pm

I have said before that sales money will be taken by GandH to lower debt and this once more will prove me correct if just a portion , and a small one at that, is used for a replacement!
BTW has anyone noticed that nothing has come about re bids for the club? This was supposed to happen , according to our illustrious and football-knowledge hound banker around the middle of July????? Following my above point re debt might I again add that my also previous point last June said they have NO INTENTION of selling LFC for the near future..
Happy days all!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:30 pm

Mascherano lost
Petrov gained

World class player
for a average player

Well Done Roy things are really looking up!!!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:34 pm

i have to agree with scouse magic, stephen ireland would be the ideal signing, he’s considered home grown, he’s young and most of all, he’s a damn good player in need of a new challenge.
i read that we are 3 players short to fulfill the eufa quota therefore, at this stage i think i would plump for the following LB-bridge or konchesky, CM -ireland or cattermole, CF-bent or C Cole and throw in SWP just for good measure
steve mcauley

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

i think aquilani can fill mach’s place and also move forward..

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

If memory serves me right some of the ‘expert contributions’ on this site we are being taken over by DIC on August 1st. Now I may sound pessimistic but I won’t hold my breath! There was another contribution that we we’re gonna be taken over on July 15th or 16th and that it was all hush hush cos the manager ‘the new owners’ wanted to appoint was managing in the World Cup.

This is all bullshit. I will not believe that we have new owners until I see them sitting in Anfield at a press conference!!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

Forget new owners. H&G have a stranglehold on liverpools finances and until RBS personally come knocking on the dooors of these 2 parasites than they will never relinquish the cash cow that is our club.. And RBS don’t have any intention of losing 50m a year profit…

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

kermit

to everyone screaming for banega , in which world is banega a holding midfield player

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

kermit

petrov has made barry and milner into world beaters in a midfield containing him, imagine where he might propel gerrard to

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

aquilani wouldnt be the mdfield enforcer ,that will be gerrard

and i see nothing wrong with a midfield of

——————————-petrov—————————-
———————gerrard——aquilani—————–

since xabi left the one thing we have been missing is not his passing abilty, its his composure and authority in the centre of the field and petrov signing could go someway to replacing what has been missing , good signing if you get him roy well done

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

KERMIT

and i still hate stephen ireland and will no longer support liverpool if he is signed.
i actually dont think he ought to be allowed to play professional football if he shirks his responsibilty to his country. i hate the little bald headed prick

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

kermit

whatever happened to GOD SAVE IRELAND CRIED THE HEROES

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

kermit

in an ideal world perhaps lucas could be replaced by banega but not mascherano.

and i m all for watching lucas blossom over the coming two seasons

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

Why not try

____________________Reina____________________
___Johnson____Carragher____Agger____Figueroa___
__________________________________________
_____Kuyt________Gerrard________Jovanovic_____
__________J.Cole_________Aquilani__________
__________________Torres___________________

With Maxi, Pacheco, Ngog, Babel, Lucas, Wilson coming of the bench

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

kermit

i would be more than happy with petrov signing, he has given a platform for both barry and milner to excell in recent seasons, he can actually pass the ball , has a fair degree of authority on his side and yes then the rest of the masch money to be spent on a striker and left back

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

kermit
anyways on to tonights game, i d prefer to see eccleston up front than ngog , but it wont happen , i d prefer to see him down the right than amoo , who looks a little too raw at this level, he has abilty but i dunno i d rather have eccleston in there
and please god play shelvey over spearing, wont happen either i know

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

kermit

anon at 5 17 , looks like a very good formation and i dont doubt it will be the long term position of gerrard in the team but probably not this season, he still has a bit too much to offer going forward to sit back yet

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

you cannot play Gerrard & Aquilani as a midfield combo against the big sides. They would never see the ball. You need a good defensive midfielder. Banega or Parker would be a straight replacement for Mascherano

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

Reina
Johnson Skertel Agger Salcido

Flamini

Aquilani

Gerrard cole

Honda

Torres

Jovanovic, Kuyt, Lucas, Carragher, young, pacheco,

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

i would also expect roy to be looking at proven premier league players , non spectacular signing that make up the bones of a team rather than a collection of superstars, much like he did at fulham
and to those who are bagging roy for his choices you people should have a little faith

i expect roy to make solid signings like shawcross cahill yakubu petrov bent figeuroa, solid signing but not spectacular, i just hope liverpool fans are smart enough to buy into what roy is gonna be trying to create and not be too disappointed when marquee names arent signed

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

That would be an excellent line up however i still think Kuyt is by far one of the hardest working Liv player and should factor into the starting line up

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

kermit

since when is banega a defensive midfielder , seriously have any of you guys ever seen him play,, he is not a ball winner

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

Liverpool are a fastly declining force and should be more than happy with a player of petrovs quality. Mid table destination for liverpool this season…..but there is always the europa league for the scousers

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

this is what i hope the starting 11 will be like tonight against rabotnikki

—————————————cavalieri——————————————-
-
kelly———————–agger—————–skrtel————————-darby

—————————————-lucas———————————————

————————shelvey—————–aquilani—————————–

eccleston—————————-ngog———————————jovanoic

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

If that is the case it would work quite nicely. We should not have any problems with a line up like that however that may not be the formation or rather that will most likely not be the formation

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

agreed i expect this
———————————cav————————————
kelly———————soto——skrtel—————–darby
————————–lucas—–spearing——————
amoo————————-aquilani—————-jovanovic
———————————–ngog——————————–

still would be pleasantly surprised if we went for it with just one holding midfielder

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

KERMIT

APPLEDAVE dont forget the superman underpants, the guy is a disgrace to his country, the best player we have yet won t play
and warren do you think he will play wilson today??? i d like to see him playand see what heis about but darby has doen a good job so far in preseason there aand i wouldn t be too surprised if agger doesnt start

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

kermit

cant say i was overly impressed by what i saw of hamsik at the world cup, but same can be said of rooney torres etc, but really i have never seen him play outside of that

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

fazer

wat bout rodriguez in the middle his a cleva player n has a gud football brain, knows wen n wer 2 pass it gud vision, n is strong will chase bak

……………………………….GERRARD………….MAXiiiiii…………………………………….

……………………………………………..AQUiiLANiii……………………….

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

Aquilani will be fine to play in the center midfield and there are numerous options out there…Banega, Defour, Asamoah, Inler, Palombo, Cattermole, Gago, are all possible options that could be great replacements. Sell Lucas and make some money of getting him out.

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:26 pm

fazer

wer can u wach the liverpol mach on the internet

n any1 tell me a site please

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

kermit fazer if you google myp2p it should be on there

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

let’s be honest here ppl if we were to field a starting eleven right now in a make-or-break match it would look something like this
Pepe
back four
Maxi Aqua Gerrard JCole
——-Kuyt—–Torres——–

with a bench

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

read it also saif, but that doesnt mean we are even looking at him

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 6:58 pm

Seriously now someone has to be pulling my chain. Stylian Petrov a Liverpool player? 30 Years old? £7 Million?

Flamini has Premiership experience, is younger and would cost about the same maybe even less?

I know what I’d do

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

KERMIT

not going as far as in roy i trust but i do have a lot of faith in roy and have an idea of what he would be looking to acheive at liverpool, a team basically, solid if unspectacular signings that will strengthen us in depth, like he said not all the wrong of last season can be put right in one go

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

————————————–reina———————————-
johnson————shawcross——agger————-figueroa
j.cole—————–gerrard———petrov————–jovanovic
—————————-aquilani————————————–
——————————–torres————————————–

subs babel pachecho kuyt bent yakubu skrtel

i d be quite happy with this

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

tonights lineup is in

———————————-cava—————————————-
kelly—————-soto—————–skrtel——————-agger
amoo————–lucas—————spearing—————–jova—-
——————————-aquilani————————————-
———————————-ngog————————————–

not totally happy that we are playing the same formation as under benitez, but considering the situation and the squad we have sent out and that we are away form home maybe its not a bad idea, hopefully lucas will be given a little more license to roam from the middle and get forward and support the attack

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

hi first off i want to say that i support united, but i have to be honest and say that since rafa has gone and you guys got roy i think you will do really really well.

you have some great players in gerrard, torres, reina and great talent in babel, aqualani, pachesco.

i would love to swap squads. buying drenthe

reina
johnson—agger—skertel—-DRENTHE
——————-masch———————–
rodriguez———————————javanovic
————–cole———–gerrard———
———————torres—————————

compare that to

van dar saar
silva—-vidic—rio—-evra
valencia—-anderson—-carrick—nani
——rooney——–berbatov———–

evra and rooney would be the onlt players i would take to liverpool. (although if i am honest with cole and gerrard behind torres would it be so bad to leave rooney??)

to me that is a premiership winning team, just need Drenthe…..

with aqualani, ngog, babel, lucus, carra, wilson, mavinga etc

i just don’t understand why macherano being sold is such a big deal??? he’s a def midfield and lets be honest is very one dimensional.

i mean look aqualani, (who was supposed to be the future of italian football a few years ago), if he can stay fit will be amazing. and pacheco is special.

reina
johnson—agger—skertel—-DRENTHE
——————-gerrard———————–
rodriguez———————————javanovic
————–cole———–aqua/pacheco———
———————torres—————————

if i were liverpool fans i would be very happy. should be a good season. please understand i love unites but no one wants liverpool to be 7th…it should be the only true big teams in the premiership that should be winning it……obviously unites more so that liverpool…

red devil

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

KERMIT

yeap me too sheley for spearing and eccleston for amoo, those would have been my choices also , bit disappointed we are using two holding midfielders like under benitez also

were you meaning babel by any chance when you mentioned roy s man management

and cheers to a very gracious red devil above, though i would take vidic rooney evra fletcher nani and valencia to liverpool from that lot

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

kermit

and even as a liverpool fan i have to admit rooney is one my favourite footballers, i think valencia is athe best right sided player in the epl, best delivery anyway, its a shame for you that nani can t seem to do as well on the left as the right as he has the making of a very good player

but sayng that i dont think it would take much to make utd strong either, signing defour to shore up the middle and a creative attacking midfielder any of ozil hamsik, but my personal choice would be diego of juve because he is likely to come cheap

—————————-v der saar————————————-
rafael—————-vidic———rio—————————evra
valencia————defour—–diego————————nani
———————–berba—rooney ——————————

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

KERMIT

looking forward to seeing what jova is made of tonight, would ve liked a quick peek at wilson also

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

Petrov’s a steady player but nothing about him excites me and he has the odd mistake or two in him but I think this is a sign of what Hodgson might have to contend with whilst the yanks are still the owners, he might possibly need to use the money from the Mascherano sale to get a replacement for him along with a new left back and possibly one more attacking player.

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

does anyone remmeber tlk of roy being brought in to steady the ship when he first took overa

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

Far too many Championship Manager kids on this site! It’s quite simple really. Roy’s mission is to get Liverpool back in the Champions League – not to win the league or sign ‘wonderkids’. Therefore he is shrewdly building a TEAM of experienced (if unspectacular) Premier league platers to give us the maximum chance of securing points against teams we really should beat.

Next season is all about qualifying for the Champions League. Maybe next Summer we can have marquee signings but now is not the time and nor do we have the money or kudos to attract top talent. We may be Liverpool but we are a broke Europa league Liverpool. Have faith in Roy! Look at his record at Fulham and enjoy watching our team actually pass and move again.

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

CHEERS KERMIT, but seriously rio isn’t the player he was, think agger and skertel could be great together…and van der saar is a real issue. i don’t get why we havent spent some proper money on a quality keeper. i would take david james in a flash….as you rightly said its the centre of the park which is bad. i seriously quite worried if we don’t get some decent players in…..

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

KERMIT

ANON AT 7 39 couldn t have put it better myself

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

kermit

amazed you havent signed neuer, akinfeev or the young guy from spain

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

game on

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

yeay go ngog

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

I don’t have Sky !

How can I watch the game ?

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

erm if you go to myp2p website then select football then select this game then click on the iraqgoals link its there

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

bit disappointed with this performance i feel like we could have really gone at them after getting the first goal and could have battered them 3 or 4 nil

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

kermit

aquilani is terrible he really ought to be destroying this team, spearing is a disaster and lucas is doing well to cover his ass and is by far our best outfield player, amoo looks so far out of his depth, kelly is impressive at right back, rabotnicki couldnt score in a whorehouse, they have absolutely no clue how to attack

spearing, amoo off shelvey eccleston in

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

Roy Hodgson knows his football and if he thinks buying premiership proven players will work go with it ? we cannot afford to be buying players who need “time to adjust to the premiership” it’s ok quoting your dream team players but back him on buying expierence….thats what cost us in front of goal last year.

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

weell done ngog

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

kermit

i read that also, didnt know he was actually in talks with them, i figured he was just letting roy know he wants some first team action

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

pachecho will be torres strike partner this season if aquilani keeps playing like he is tonight

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

kermit

we should pplay glen johnson wide right , martin kelly is top quality as a right back

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

kermit i honestly dont see how he can be kept out of the first team on the evidence of this game

————————————–reina————————————-
kelly——————–carra————–agger—————-figueroa
johnson————–gerrard———–lucas——————-j.cole
—————————-pachecho————————————
———————————–torres————————————-

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

pacheco will go on loan, to get some first team experience. and then come in next year!!

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

kermit
to be honest i think pachecho is good enough to play ten to fifteen games this season

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

one thing i have learned from this preseason is that aquilani cannot play in the hole

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

i know this could be untrue…but liverpool are linked with david santon who i tink would be a good player for us…before yossi joined chelsea even before d rumours hit the press i was lookin at his wiki page and it said benayoun currently of chelsea fc…even before we knew..it was changed back to current club liverpool and then back to chelsea when he officially joined..on santons wiki page it says he would be keen on a move to Liverpool FC and the club have already begun talks to buy him. to me for now its just spculation but there is a chance.

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

kermit

aquilani was non existent for the whole game , only three performances worthy of merit

lucas in midfield
kelly at right back
ngog got two goals

only two of these should play in the first team and for me thats kelly and lucas

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

we won the game but i thought ngog was pretty poor in his general play took the second goal well though

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

and realistically we should beat this team by ten or eleven goals at anfield

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

with a full strength teama i d expect joe cole to have a field day against this lot and so i m predicting a hattrick for him

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

He’s been great at Villa the last couple of seasons doing an outstanding job replacing Barry last year, so defefensively one really can’t complain about his contributions! Must say though that I had wished for a better passing player (then again that wasn’t Mascherano’s strongest aspect either), so why not go for Van Der Vaart, and you’ll get a great defensive player with a great passing foot and plenty of experience pretty damn cheap at the Bianconeri’s summersale?

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

i reckon he could use the u12 squad and sstill win comfortably

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

van der vaart isnt a defensive midfielder

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

anon 7.12 ur no manc ur a pool supporter lookin for thumbs up manc my hole now be honest it was worth a try

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

yeh lets sign all the Villa rejects

lets also sign Heskey…..Young and anyone else who is not good…and Roy will turn these players into world class

watch Roy he is super

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

I doubt this will happen, the club needs left backs and a striker far more than another center midfielder. Also, 7 million for a 30 year old?? really?? that would be a terrible deal. I hope he manages to get someone better than Figueroa for left back as well.

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:00 pm

Dare I say it, We desperately need Alonso back if we are to regain our rightful top 4 position.

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:03 pm

kermit

i like and rate lucas yes, he had the captains armband for a reason, there were more senior players than him out there, soto agger aquilani, but roy chose to give it to lucas so i m obviously not the only one who rates him, and he was far better than aquilani tonight, aquilani was about as dangerous as an 11 yr old girl

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:03 pm

Only idiot would pay him 7 mil.
No one in his rigt mind would get him even if he was free.

I think Hodgson has very little knowledge about the football outside the UK.
It will be a real problem for Liverpool until they sack him.

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

i d play the same team but i d take out spearing for shelvey and aquilani for joe cole, just to give him his debut, he l prob get a hatrick against these muppets

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

can somebody tell me why on earth insua left and now pacheco is willing to go too?is our management blind or thats how much they know football?them kids are by far our best youngsters.pacheco will one day be 15-20 mil player and will end up at barca as a star,just neted 4 goals at the 19 eu championship,but no one is saying a thing about it.shame,all we know now days is english,but they are rubbish-kick’n'rush

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:07 pm

kermit

anon at 11 03, the target this season is to consildate and regain top four status immediately, you can t do this by buying wonderkids from abroad who we cannot afford, my guess is roy is working withint a strict budget and he s targetting seasoned premierr league players to give the sqaud some strength in depth and like the guy said aboive once we have regained our top 4 status and hopefully wiht new owners by then maybe then we can think about spectacular signings

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:08 pm

KERMIT
i highly doubt if pachecho will be sold

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:10 pm

yeh if we sign the players what Roy wants …what a great team we will have

—————————-Reina———————

——Figeroua……Carragher….Agger….Young——–

——Cole….Petrov…Scharner….Gerrard——-

—————-Torres(Zamora)….Crouch————–

and if Roy can get rid of Torres then he will bring in Zamora

This team will scare the living daylights out of everybody…wait and watch

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

get rid of Pacheco…we’ve got SPEARING who is much better than Pacheco will ever be….Spearing is going to be the next Bryan Robson if he’s given the chance…

Roy you muppet how can you make Lucas the captain when Spearing is on the pitch….he is by far Liverpools best player after Gerrard and Carragher

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

without doubt i,d ask for cambiasso and money hes miles better than mascherano………………

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:28 pm

kermit

the spearting for captain was a joke right, soto was the only other possible candidate for the captaincy than lucas

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:54 pm

why does no one rate SPEARING if he was given the same games as Lucas then he would be as good as any one out there….he is going to be the next BRYAN ROBSON…..

look at Barcelona they looked after Messi and what a great player he’s become

and if Liverpool gave SPEARING the same chance, then he would be awsome

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:58 pm

Since Roy licks Fergies *rse….he may as well sign Gary Neville and Michael Owen too

He will make sure we don’t beat Manure because he doesn’t want his friend Sir Alex to fall out with him

anonymous - July 29th, 2010 at 11:59 pm

Spearing essentially has the potential to be a good Championship league player, no more.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:07 am

kermit

if liverpool gave spearing the ame chances we gave lucas we would be 11th in the league

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:16 am

Jay Spearing 5 out of 10

Poor early cross was emblematic of another nervy performance in the first team.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:17 am

ask retryboy

he rates SPEARING

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:20 am

You’s obviously dont know football or squads.look at germany they might not of had the big name players of argentina and brazil but they got further way,because there was no ego’s and the players wanted to do there best for there team.And thats what liverpool have been missing,Mascherano didnt want to be there last season, so way have a big name plaer that people have been banging on about that doesnt want to play, when you can have talented players that get the job done,and dont be in the papers every other day.Banega,turan never played in the premier Hodgson is looking for a certain type of team that will play as a team not just a bunch of big money signings all thrown in together.If you cant understand that watch another sport,because the real football fans are seriously starting to get ticked of with all these clueless people.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:28 am

lOOK NOBODY UNDERSTANDS HOW ROY IS WORKING…..he is going to make Liverpool in to a new Fulham if not Blackburn

But it doesn’t matter because its been along time since we played direct sexy long ball

Just wait till Roy signs Crouch and Rory Delap and gets rid of Torres then everything will be complete

Plan A –long Ball

Plan B —Long Ball

lucky Benitez is gone

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:29 am

Roy should build his team around Carragher and Spearing because they and the style they play are the future

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:33 am

12:28 am 2 words you muppet.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:44 am

Roy for manager of the year for the miracles he has already done in the transfer market.for Liverpool..especially if he can pull off….. Luke Young…Petrov…Crouch and Rory Delap

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 2:37 am

THE CHOSEN ONE

kermit I rate Lucas to and as for spearing I think that is Gerrards influence. the Lads did ok and pleased for Ngog. Good team performance and that is all that matters as well as a win .

What in my opinion people don`t know is we only have money for a left back at the minute, our board were hoping to sell masch to fund more spending.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 3:23 am

We should get Joey Barton….last I heard, he is better than any of the English lads at the world cup.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 5:46 am

i personally like what roy has done in terms of additions to the club. he has added talented team players who with sometime to develop chemistry will make a very good team. Obviously everyone likes to see the big name players coming in, but thats just unrealistic considering what an awful job my fellow americans have done. I would like to see liverpool get petrov with a portion of the mascherano money and let lucas learn a little bit from him so in a few years he can step in and be a big difference maker and provide the offense that mascherano couldn’t.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 6:25 am

i want retryboy to be lfc manager.so we can play babel on the right and flamini centre midfield.LOL

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 6:41 am

THE CHOSEN ONE

First game of the season Guys and match fitness isn`t quite there so we cant really judge players alot but what we can say is i think at the moment we are playing the same system that we played last season and Lucas has the confidence of his team mates as well as manager as well as I hope our 2nd goalie stays, The brazilian has been an unsung Herofor us. Never ever winged and done well when called to duty. 5mil is too cheap.

Lucas valuation is 12mil for me and Ngog 7 mil taking into consideration age. Hey but thats just me

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 6:46 am

THE CHOSEN ONE

btw Aquilini was bought to play a deeper role if anyone has not noticed but due to his injuries and that he is too soft in the middle as well as him trying to adapt to the english style of footy we have played him as supporting striker or a floater. i think once he masters that deeper role where spearing was playing it will be better for the team.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 7:16 am

please roy go for the brazilian Hernanes he is classy and the only man to link the defence to the attack and at 24 it is the right age so much compared to Alonso and santos values him at 10 mill pounds

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am

Petrov is too bad but i say bring in Banega looks quality
if not try cambiasso

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 9:01 am

kermit

spearing was a disaster waiting to happen last night , getting aught in possession numerous times and being very lucky to get away with being given a free kick on several occasions, lucas was covering his arse for most of the first half although he did improve slightly in the second half and whilst he is an okay player i dont think i can ever see him making it at anfield

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am

swap Masch for Alonso the best cm in the world
then buy figueroa and llorente and Turan
I can dream can’t i

………………….reina…………………
jonno…..carra….agger….figuer
………………….alonso……………….
…….cole…….gerrard….turan……
…………llorente…….tores………….

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 9:09 am

kermit
out of ten for last nights performance

cavalieri 6 had noting to do
kelly 7 had a great game, johnson will be lucky to keep his spot if this guy keeps playing this well
soto 6 constantly booed little to do but did it
skrtel and agger see soto
spearing 5.5 looked nervous and out of his depth a little in the first half got better second half
lucas 7 did a good job in midfield kept things ticking over
amoo 5 great pace but he is too raw for this level first touch let him down a lot
jova 6 had little time and space to work in down the left, some nice footwork though
aquilani 4 this was the biggest disappointment for me, should have been on the ball a lot more and dominating the game
ngog 7 took his goals well, still unconvinced though

subs darby 6.5 did well again at left back once he came on
the others didnt get a chance really

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 9:10 am

kermit also i d love to swap masch for alonso

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 9:39 am

ALONSO BACK WOULD BE SUPERB BUT IT WONT HAPPEN
SO BANEGA IS THE CLOSEST THING

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 10:13 am

EL SANTO

Well Lads,I am not certain about the signing of Styilian Petrov?
Yes,he is experianced and yes,he is a ball winner.But,he is 30!

I know for a fact that he only has around 2 years of great footy left in him,and 2 years will pass without a doubt,and they will pass quite quickly in my opinion.

I think the man for the job is either Éver Banega or Lee Cattermole,I’m sure about the price though? Maybe Cattermole would cost us £12m and Banega will cost us £10m?

Personally, I want Banega,He is not a high-profile player and he won’t cost a fortune.He can pass like Xabi Alonso,tackle like Javier Mascherano and dribble like Steven Gerrard.
I think a player with that many values is definatly worth signing.
And the best thing is he will only cost £10m!

Also , I think Carlos Salcido will sign for £3m for the left-back spot.

Summary
(My predictions)
IN=
Milan,free
J.Cole,free
Wilson,£2m
Shelvey,£1.7m
Salcido,£3m
Banega,£10m
(and a young Englisg striker),£8m
TOTAL=24.7m

Starting XI

________________Reina______________________

Johnson______Carragher____Agger_______Salcido_____

________________Banega_______________________

__________Gerrard_________Aqua________________

J.Cole________________________________Kuyt___

_______________Torres________________________

That looks like a good team to me

Tell me what you think please

from el santo.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 10:24 am

el santo
not bad but with the money from masch,sales etc…

———————–reina———————–
johnson——carra—-agger——–salcido
———————–banega———————
–cole—————gerrard————turan–
——–huntelaar————–torres———–

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 10:33 am

aqua,lucas and s ireland are not dm’s like banega

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 10:35 am

L.B we should look at Capdavilla

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 11:04 am

Looks like inter milan will want to pay only 15M + Sulley Muntari. I think its not fair. if 15M + Cambiasso may be Liverpool could negotiate.

If NOT, then Liverpool may take cash only for 25M – 30M for Mascherano.

Then We can buy a good DMF like Lassana Diara or Ever Banega etc. Both of them have a good pace, can pass well too. Better than Mascherano i think.

According to some website, looks like we will sign Maynor Figueroa. But I personally think we better sign either Wayne Bridge, Fabio Coentrao or Carlos Salcido.

As for Dani Pacheco case, I think we still can convince him to play at Liverpool by giving Him chance to play 2 upfront, Pacheco and Torres. Since Torres is still injured, we can pair Pacheco with Jovanovic/Ngog upfront.

How much money does the club left if Mascherano go to Inter?

The club will give = 15M
Mashc price = 25M
Insua = 5M
Benayoun = 6M
Riera = 5M ==TOTAL =56M

————————-
Estimate money spend before transfer deadline :-

CB:
Danny Wilson = 3+M

Left-Back:
Salcido = 3M
Bridge/Maynor Figueroa = 6M

DMF
Ever Banega = 15+M

=========TOTAL = 27M

So, there’s still 29M left….

What you guys think??

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

with the 29left buy a top striker

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

29m left will cover a couple weeks interests payments..

25m for masc if a fucking joke, he’s not worth more than 10m

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:34 pm

29m buy Aguero or Turan and Huntelaar

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

kermit

i d take huntelaar on loan

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

ROBINHO IS AVAILABLE ON LOAN
GET HIM

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

ROBINHO IS AVAILABLE ON LOAN
GET HIM

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

Instead of petrov i’d go for Gago. With Khedira joining Madrid, i don’t see him being a part of their plans. He is undoubtedly talented but may cost more than 10 million.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

L.F.C

================REINA=================
JOHNO====CARRA=====AGGER====SALCIDO
====GERRARD===BANEGA===CAMBIASS0===
==COLE=====================ROBINIHO==
================TORRES===============

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

Gosh No ! ! !. Getting Petrov would be a disaster… banega still remains the best choice… Or we could get Scharner for free as a back up for Lucas who could be 1st choice.. I wouldn’t want LFC becoming another AC MILAN….

Would highly prefer:
———————–Reina——————–
Johnno—-Skrtel——–Agger—–Figueroa
———–Lucas/Banega—–Gerrard————
————————-Aquilani———————
————–Joe Cole——–Jovanovic——–
————————-Torres———————-

Crossing has not been our biggest trait in recent times and our forwards aren’t greatest headers. Passing and moving is far more attractive and result-yielding with aforementioned players… This lineup is more than capable of holding on to the ball and spreading play as Cole and Jovanovic are both capable of playing behind striker and on wings with Aquilani and Gerrard waiting to spot any open space and blast their way through… This would By far be the most flamboyant lineup we could put on the pitch….

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

liverpool news –
mascerano will be moving to inter milan for around 25 million pounds.

dirk kuyt would be intrested in a inter move but it ruluctant to state a desire for a move as he does not want to damage his relationship with the liverpool fans.

turan is a possibilty but liverpool may have to wait untill next summer to get their man due to the stance taken by galatasary – turan would love a liverpool move – muntari would welcome a move to liverpool with interkeen to let him loose for around 8 million.

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

would be happy to see petrov big fan since his celtic days. very clever player ,great tackler wid killer pass would be good mentor for lucas etc. would mean we could put more money into getting decent backup 4 el nino (bent) and figeroa

anonymous - July 30th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

If we do sell Mascherano the disloyal dimwit, we should get no less than £35M as on his day he is the best holding midfielder in the world.

And Hodgson needs to start remembering he is at Liverpool not Fulham anymore, Petrov of A Villa? L Young Of A Villa? He should be looking at quality, young, hungry, experienced players who can take the club forward.

IF and when he sells Mascherano, He should bring in two Holding Midfielders to come and compete with One another for the defensive mid role in the side.

The two we should bring in : 1st Bring back Momo Sissoko Of Juventus for £10-£12M

And 2nd to bring in M Flamini Of A.C Milan for £10-£12M

Both of these players are quality, class, no the premiership and all have shone in the premiership and would improve the quality and class at club.

Here are the best Holding/Defensive midfielders in the world at the moment:

Mascherano Of Liverpool Essien Of Chelsea M Sissoko Of Juventus

L Diarra Of Real Madrid Yaya Toure Of Man City X Alonso Of Real Madrid

De Rossi Of Roma Cambiasso Of Inter S Busquets Of Barcelona

M Sissoko Of Toulouse S Mbia Of Marseille N De Jong Of Man City

M Diarra Of Real Madrid Tiago Of Juventus C Makele Of PSG

G Inler Of Udinese W Palacios Of Tottenham M Senna Of Villareal

A Song Of Arsenal D Zokora Of Seville P Assuncao Of A Madrid

And Petrov and Poulsen are not in this calibre of players, so how the club are being linked with them i do not know.

And i am praying they are just rumours and not serious, we should sell Mascherano For no less than £35M or the only swap deal Hodgson should consider from Inter is Cambiasso + £25M for Mascherano, then use £12M to bring back M Sissoko From Juventus for £10-£12M and then use £13M on E Banega Of Valencia Or S Ireland Of Man City.

anonymous - July 31st, 2010 at 9:12 pm

Benega has 8.5 million release clause in his contract.

Taiwo was set to move to Atletico for 8 million

Turan from Gala for 12 million.

28.5 million

Sell Masch for 25/30 million

Offer Milan 4.5m and Babel for Huntelaar. from the money raised from sales.

Reina

Johnson Carra Agger Taiwo

Benega Gerrard

Cole Aquilani Turan

Torres

Cavalieri
Skrtel
Sotis
Kelly
Ayala
Darby
Wilson
Amoo
Ecclestone
Aurelio
Lucas
Shevley
Degen
Maxi
Jovanovich
Huntelaar
Kuyt
Ngog
Pacheco
Nemeth
etc etc

We’d be looking far stronger in my opinion.

anonymous - August 8th, 2010 at 7:58 am

appledave in a midfield you would seriously play Lucas & Petrov over Aquilani? We are trying to win games, not, ‘don’t lose’ mentality… i say try Gerrard & Aquilani, Cole CF Torres ST Babel, Maxi Jovanovic on the wings, so what if we concede a goal or two, if we’re 4 – 0 up… we shot abandon the holding mid vs weak teams, Stoke, etc Gerrard can always drop back anyway.