This tackle has started a war of words between Etihad Stadium boss Roberto Mancini and Liverpool’s Steven Gerrard. The Italian feels the challenge was as bad as the one that saw Vincent Kompany sent off during the Manchester derby, and it’s hard to argue. However in both cases the ball is cleanly won, though following the letter of the law both are probably red card offences, this debate is sure to run and run.
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anonymous11224 - January 12th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Could hardly be described as a “war of words”. Although it was a poor challenge.
anonymous206178 - January 12th, 2012 at 8:00 am
that looked like a perfect tackle for me, glen johnson got the ball and nothing else.
anonymous720224 - January 12th, 2012 at 8:17 am
that was far far worse than kompanys!
he was along the floor and connected with only 1 foot, his feet were 2 yards aprt and his body was in control
johnsons trajectary launches himself into the air and he connects with the ball with 2 feet fully forward with his studs, coming down!!
anonymous718491 - January 12th, 2012 at 8:20 am
I am a lfc fan and and other liverpool fans who say that was not a red card offence are stupid that was 100% a bad challenge, two footed and off the floor ha but I expect nothing less when barreling the likes of city good win boys now do a job in second leg 3-1 over both ties
anonymous490616 - January 12th, 2012 at 8:22 am
pfffft hardly touched him, football needs a serious revision on what and what isnt a foul, he WON THE BALL!!!
anonymous293483 - January 12th, 2012 at 8:24 am
HAHA,, LFC IS STUPID
MCFC STUPID,,
TCKLE WAS GOOD..
REF WAS SPOT ON..
BORING MATCH ,,
anonymous752814 - January 12th, 2012 at 8:35 am
This is a conspiracy. Referees are favouring liverpool by noit sending off johnson but sending off kompany.. The FA made city play fa cup against the mighty united on sunday, whereas liverpool last played on friday! How unfair, this is an injustice!
anonymous294987 - January 12th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Perfect tackle Nothing wrong with it .
anonymous934638 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:02 am
We’re never going to get any fair comments, 90% of the people that leave comments on the site are scousers or Liverpool glory supporters (can’t really see you getting much glory, supporting Liverpool, mind) but erm.. nevermind. All your going to get is people saying “Good tackle.” “Perfect tackle.” or “Did’nt even touch him.” Well it was’nt and he did, if Kompany’s was a red, then so was this. Referee’s moan about “Respect.” This is where respect has to be earned, and you aren’t going to earn it with these kind of decisions. Sort it out!
Rant over.
anonymous760492 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Sorry, although am not a Liverpool Fan, i can 100% say that Johnson did jumped with 2 feet on the ball and NOT on the other player who went to the tackle. Of course a 2 legged tackled is a foul and can result with a red card but not all situation are the same.
Against Nani, Kompany meritted a Red card and in this case, it should not even be a yellow card…GOOD refereeing.
anonymous522778 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:14 am
What if a player jumped with 2 feet on the ball and no other players around him…would he still get a card??? I agree with anonymous760492…GOOOOOOOOOD REFEREEEEING
anonymous794423 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:36 am
anonymous760492 -anonymous522778- You are idiots ….. 1
I am a lfc fan, this is a very bad tackle.
anonymous286354 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Should have been red. It doesn’t matter if he missed by an inch and didn’t fully connect, that’s the type of tackle that puts players out for a season. If he had connected he could have easily broke his leg.
anonymous685117 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:40 am
SHOCKINGLY DANGEROUS TACKLE
anonymous278838 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Really bad tackle …. 3 matches ban…IMO
NUFC fan here
anonymous346222 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Difference is, Kompany went through nani, and if nani had been in the way he would have broken his legs. In this, Johnson clearly gets to the ball first and wins the ball, and there is no question of Lescott being in the way.
anonymous8923 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:55 am
He clearly went for the ball.
mancini is a sore loser..
he also tried to blame rooney for kompany sending off.
well played liverpool.
Hope spurs add to man city misery.
Man utd fan
anonymous577319 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:56 am
in my opinion johnsons or kompanys tackles weren’t red card offences
anonymous693757 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:57 am
dum ass people on this site, i love lfc till i die but get over yourself and the club it was easily a red card tackle ok he didnt make contact but had he then no doubt broken foot or leg he was in the air flying with studs up and two footed i hate Johnson and wish the clown got sent off, people who say no fould just turn it the other way have lescott doing that to Captain Fantastic or Suarez we would soon be calling for his head, petty comments from fans that have no idea about the game.
I do agree the FA ruen football as do most refs with constant poor decisions but tbh what goes against you only ends up going for you at some point, i.e Suarez banned was band for the City matches HOWEVER Kompany banned Yaya out Toure out Silva Injured before k.o what more could we have asked for, football always evens its self out, as for City they no doubt would have been over the moon that Suarez was not there to torment them again even without there big guns if it were not for Savic poor display they may have got away with a draw.
anonymous49046 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:59 am
anonymous693757 i agree but Komapnys was no way a red Yellow at best!!
anonymous4223 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:07 am
“this debate is sure to run and run.”
well you were right
its the third time city “win” a red cart against liverpool, wierd or not?
i’m liverpool fan and i think fa don’t like us
why? i don’t know but i don’t fond them fait with us
but i find fa unfair with city
maybe not many english players there
i won’t fall into a conspiracy which could come from united (city & liverpool : fa not fair with them) but is double standard …
anonymous635705 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:10 am
The bottom line is Kompany should have never been shown a red card and the FA should have rescinded it , the FA is an absolute joke !
anonymous464324 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:14 am
i think man city and kompany should serve the ban silently like milijas and wolves are doing.
johnson tackle was very different in the sense that it was well timed and properly executed.
anonymous793875 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:26 am
BAD TACKLE …… 3 MATCHES BAN…..END OFF
anonymous707684 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:28 am
perfect tackle!! quality defender johnson has turned out to be!!
anonymous591417 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Both tackles, Johnson and Kompany got the ball, and was wth no execessive force and defo not red cards, it’s just that refree in the kompany game was a prick… and people that are claiming to be “liverpool fans” and wants johnson tb be sent off needs to f*k off because no liverpool supporter wants anything like that happening to their players..
anonymous632696 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Extremely dangerous tackle. A split second later or Lescott going in a split second quicker and we would be talking about a leg break. As reckless a tackle as I have seen in a while. For Millijas to get a 3 game ban and Johnson to get nothing, there is something really wrong somewhere.
anonymous22903 - January 12th, 2012 at 11:11 am
did he get ball?yes.did he get the player?no.if we go by 632696 argument,if this if that football would be finished.cant go on if he had been second earlier or later,he wasnt and got ball cleanly.look on slow mo he left foot is on the ground.no intent so no card.
kompany did go through player so was a card,but do not think it warranted,red
anonymous24309 - January 12th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Fergie and Fergie’s Assosiation must be LTAO for getting Kompany banned for 4 games and Suarez for 8 games.
anonymous660735 - January 12th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
the rules state that its a straight red if there is a chance of hurting or injuring the player he cleanly got the ball but if lescott got there first and then jumped out of the way it would be a different story so deal with it city ye lost
anonymous157009 - January 12th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Wot the f**k are people on about now great tackle.
anonymous869983 - January 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Was not a great challenge but his second foot only goes forward to avoid contact.
anonymous746085 - January 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
What aload of rubbish none were red cards but if kompany gets a red so shud johnson kompanys should of been overturned sort it out fa or the game will be ruined
anonymous864290 - January 12th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Both Kompany’s and Johnson’s tackles were clean and legitimate, as they both came in low and fairly level to the ball. Anyone who’d actually played the game before should know this. The only difference this time, was that the referee actually got the decision right. So for all those Man City fans looking for an excuse for their teams poor performance last night, they need not look any further than Chris Foy and their own team!
anonymous830362 - January 12th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
awsome!!!!!!!!!!! well done john
anonymous90566 - January 12th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
No way Kompany should of been sent off in the first place, but thats cheating scum like united for you.
anonymous157908 - January 12th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Suarez 8 matchs, Kompany 4 matches, Rooney ban reduced by the FA. Can you see the pattern here.
anonymous381576 - January 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
“anonymous157908 – January 12th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Suarez 8 matchs, Kompany 4 matches, Rooney ban reduced by the FA. Can you see the pattern here.”
well suarez was banned for racial abuse, kompany for a 2footed tackle and 2nd red of the season and rooney had his ban for violent conduct reduced by UEFA…
so unless the pattern is “scattergun” then no, i dont see it
anonymous509985 - January 12th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
The difference is kompany went through nani in were he had to jump out of the way or get his two legs broken the ball was there to be won for Johnson and he won it cleanly end of stop trying to get liverpool involved in your buisness city you have spent hundreds of millions on players and wages and are making excuses for your bad spell you had dzeko on the bench and he cost over 25 million and on 160 grand a week
anonymous873886 - January 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
@anonymous381576 UEFA sorted out Rooneys ban reduction, not the FA so get your facts right. Big difference between Internationals and Club football.
anonymous515490 - January 12th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
anonymous873886 – January 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
thats what i said…
“rooney had his ban for violent conduct reduced by UEFA…”
see, its right there. whats your point?
anonymous420449 - January 12th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Kompany’s wasn’t a red and neither was this. Don’t criticize defenders for tackling the BALL! It’s their job….
anonymous287807 - January 12th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Did someone just say Liverpool glory hunters?????!!!!
WTF
anonymous653658 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
glens tackle looks bad because of the angle it keeps getting shown from if you see it from the front its just a good solid tackle kompany s tackle wasnt a red card eneither maybe a yellow at best its just unfortunate that vincents was against manure anyone else he would of got away with it …
anonymous200947 - January 12th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
That was the perfect tackle, no studs were showing at all. Manchester Sicky are just moaning because they lost the game.
Don’t worry you will win everything soon with all that money, and then the owners will find another toy.
anonymous317105 - January 13th, 2012 at 1:30 am
It’s not about just following the ‘letter of the law’ for the sake of it, the law and associated guidelines that led to Kompany being sent off are intended to discourage these types of dangerous tackles (so whether the ball is won or not is totally irrelevant – the referee has to make a judgement as to whether the tackle was dangerous enough to warrant a straight dismissal).
Now, on this basis both the Komapny challenge AND the Johnson one were dangerous enough in my view to warrant red cards (the fact that Nani jumped out of the way of Kompany’s tackle is conveniently ignored by most commenters).
Unfortunately we don’t get to hear the details of referee’s decisions (or lack of them), and I don’t really blame the officials for this as judging by the comments on forums like this a vast majority of people associated with football are not mature enough to engage in reasoned dialogue with them. So, I can only assume the ref did not see this incident clearly, and it must be remembered (stating the obvious in classic football pundit style) that the referee does not have instant access to five slow motion replays of any challenge or other incident.
My apologies for bringing soom common sense to a football debate – I just couldn’t resist. I long for a day when football debate grows up….
anonymous349668 - January 13th, 2012 at 4:03 am
how was it even called a tackle by johnson? lescott was miles late on the challenge.
anonymous453903 - January 13th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
whoever is saying this is a horrific tackle or a terrible tackle need to get their facts right its as clean as a tackle can be your all pussys who cares if he used both his feet
anonymous841191 - January 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Kompany’s tackle was 2 footed. He won the ball. Fair tackle for me.
Johnson’s tackle was 2 footed. He won the ball. Again, a fair tackle for me.
Just shows how low the refereeing standards are in the country.
anonymous161407 - January 14th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
The similarities here are that both discussed tackles were two footed. There is no discussion there. The second similarity is that the offended players never complained about the tackles, so in both cases the game should have continued. The difference between both tackles was that only Foy had a screamining gnome in his face demanding a sending off. No City player complained about the tackle.
At the end of the day, that was Mancini’s point. Not that Johnson should have been sent off, that it was obvious that it was Rooney’s influence on Foy that has Kompany sent off.
It was unfortunate that the interviewer wound Gerrard up into thinking that Mancini was complaining that Johnson should have been sent off. Hopefully, Gerrard and Mancini have now made up.