Liverpool manager implies that Everton are still a ’small club’: What does the blue half of Merseyside have to say about that?

scouse1878 - January 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

benitez is a dick., everton forever

muddy_funster - January 26th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

A small club that they’ve failed to beat twice in a week, who’s bitter now?

The Rock of Anfield - January 26th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez has stoked the derby fire once again by categorizing Everton as a ’small club.’

Everton are a small club. How amny league titles? 18? No that’s us!
How many Champo Leagues? 5? Also us!

Tony - January 26th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

It’s to be expected, Benitez lacks class and does not have a particularly good team, especially when the money spent on them is considered.

EvertonAl - January 26th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

Hey, rock? It’s just the blue half of Merseyside that’s bitter, isn’t it?

I’ll give you my Rafa impression now:

Facts? I give you facts:

No Yak, no Saha, no Arteta, no Fellaini, a 70% Anichebe, a midfielder playing up front, and a 17 and 18 year old on the pitch for the last 15 minutes, and you still couldn’t beat us, even with your strongest squad.

How many f**king advantages do you want? Perhaps we’ll give the fat spanish gobshite a 1-0 start next week.

18 titles? yeah, and you were still shitting in your nappy the last time it happened, which incidentally was only 3 years after we last won it, for fuc ks sake. And typical of the redhites to start their ancient history lessons every time they are shown up to be the bag of shite that they are. Hope Ruffa stays for ever, the knobhead.

Of course, it was always asking too much for Ruffa to acknowledge that your shower of shite had every conceivable advantage and we defended magnificently. No, because that would take some of the dignity that Moyes has that Benitez can’t even spell. Without Gerrard, you would be in sh!t street.

And you wonder why we’ll all be laughing when the Mancs match your titles nubmber n the summer? You bitter red bastards. lol

Bradman - January 26th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

Bitterness Bitterness! Small club just full of bitterness! Bluenoses are always going to sit in and around the UEFA cup only places unless they spend….The cheesy Scot is right, you have to spend to win trophies that is why Liverpool, Man U, Chelsea, AC Milan, Real Madrid, Barca are all succesful don’t be bitter Gayvid Moyes just get real!!!

kermit - January 26th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

okay iam a liverpool supporter and only aught the second hal;f yesterdayman of the match for me was a toss up between gerrard and lecott, who was immense , thats the best i ve ever seen him play he cleared everything in the air and was reasonably solid on the deck too
but gerrard was brilliant agree with what the guy above says without him we d be fucked, but mascherano was also back to hisbest yesterday and gerrard couldnt have functioned so well going forward without masch playing so well moppig up, the next game will be interestiing two 1-1 draws , i was gutted afterthe first game, but evertone need to attack us now and this leaves holes at the back and no one better than stevie g combined with torres to expose these holes
oh jagielka played well also, but lescott deserves to start for england on this performance

kermit - January 26th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

and as for rafa the jury is still out on him, his lineups formations and substitutions are always suspect, the only reason i d want him to stay is to keep torres alonso at the club apart from that he can go

kermit - January 26th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

everton do undoubtedly have less wealth to throw around, but i remember the 1980s, everton one year liverpool the next , i d like to see a repeat of thatand fuck man u

steve blue - January 26th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

ha ha hes cracking up . did he read that rant off another piece of paper ???
haha we are the dignity club as well as the peoples club.
everton fc lass fame but no shame

Blue nose Liam - January 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

Its all gone tits up for Bafa and he knows it !!!!!
Can a team ever play too defensive ? I dont think so
Yes i will be the first to admit we dont have the attackin prowess of Liverpool but look how much money has been spent over the park compared to us!
With the amount of money Bafa has spent over there on shite (keane/Benayoun/veronin/Pennant/) to name but a few, with these players alone we could of bought our new stadium for that!

Simple facts are that Bafa’s Millions couldnt beat a tiny everton squad with no fit strikers,Creative Midfielders in theory 4 of our best players were either banned or injured.

But Rafa cant help but have a go because he knows he only has himself or his poorly performing team to blame.

I will bet anyone here that rafa has pissed off back to spain at the start of the new 09/10 season.

Steve McMahon - January 26th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

EvertonAl – January 26th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

Hey, rock? It’s just the blue half of Merseyside that’s bitter, isn’t it?

I’ll give you my Rafa impression now:

Facts? I give you facts:

And typical of the redhites to start their ancient history lessons every time they are shown up to be the bag of shite that they are.

2nd in the league, thru to the CL quarter’s, beaten only once all season,

And you call us a bag of shite?
So where does that leave Everton?

Ye drew with us twice in a week and ye are getting excited, calm down lad, there is no trophy available for drawing with us, although a small club may deserve one as it is an achievement for such a small club get a draw at Anfield, ye are now in the same league as Stoke, Fulham & West Brom, congrats on you’re achievement as these other small clubs mentioned are also teams that we failed to beat due by the way to our own failings more than the oppositions ability, so keep you’re excitement in perspective, lad and calm down, alright.
Ye literally parked a bus in front of the goal and ye got away with it.

“And you wonder why we’ll all be laughing when the Mancs match your titles nubmber n the summer? You bitter red bastards. lol”

If you’re only enjoyment this season is to be laughing if manure win the league, then you have just proved Raffa’s point, ye really are a small club, as since ye can’t generate any success for yourselves, the fall of others is your only joy, now how sad is that?
And you call us bitter? take a good look in the mirror lad!.

1985 - January 26th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

You are bitter because you dropped two points and will have to come to Goodison when we have all our best players back. Get over it. I would rather be a ’small’ club with integrity that retains it’s soul. Who else do you support…..BT, McDonalds??

Coggin - January 26th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

Look Everton played a 4-5-0 and it worked for them, they were down on good players so went for the defensive and even though Liverpool were all over them they got the first goal due to our poor defending and we got ours due to their poor goal keeping, a draw, it happens a lot with us this season. I am looking forward to the replay because I don’t think that Everton will play like that again, they will attack and it will make a much better game, also they might have some of their better players back so they can’t use the lack of players excuse, yes I know Rafa has had a little bit more money to spend on players but bigger clubs always will, Moyes is a good manager and Everton do have some good players, Merseyside derby’s are always a supercharged game all form does go out of the window so a draw was always on the card, we will all see a week on Wednesday who will proceed.
Oh and EvertonAL don’t think that schadenfreude is a quality I would want to boast about. Feel good about yourself and rise above it mate.

mickey b - January 26th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

Steve McMahon….. listen son what you dont understand you prick is that we are proud to bitter cos we hate everything your club stands for…. i have many many mates and close family that support the red shite (proper scousers mind not like you) so its nothing personal but as for the club – yes we would be happy if manure won the league as long as you shower win fuck all , i dont care who fuckin wins it as long as you win nothing …. i’m proud to be bitter and to be honest like ive told me red shite mates if i was a multi billionaire arab i wouldnt invest in making Everton a Chelski or Manc Shitty but i would keep us as the Peoples / Dignity Club we are but instead buy Anal-Field and bankrupt the fuckin club and get it closed down and put to sleep like it deserves

Coggin - January 26th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

Sorry that should have been 4-6-0 (can’t count)

Big Dunc - January 26th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

Kopites are Gobshites

Paul Bates - January 26th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

He’s just a very Fat Spanish Waiter………. ive had loads of Red Shite mates today telling me how embarrased of him they are…… i hope he stays with them meself …………… he has a team of clueless, gutless, spinless and spirit-less bunch of prima donas

Labby the Corinthian - January 26th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

The Fat Spanish Waiter has lost the plot, first it was Sir Alex (the most succesful manager ever tut tut) then goes on about his contract (washing his dirty linen in public) and now has a pop at the Peoples Club AKA The Dignity Club ……. You have no class Waiter Boy ! now fuck off back to Spain, no hang on a minute – stay where you are – are suited running that shower of shit

Blue Jim - January 26th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

Coggin and Kermit – reasonable reds and sound enough comments. Bradman and the Cock of Anfield – typical red sh*te. Bitter coz you missed your ferry back to Norway / or the Bentley broke down on the way to Tonbridge Wells? If Moyes had half your money then Benitez would be back serving tapas. The only tips he’d earn would be vocal ones – give up the football fatso and get a personality. Is that a dead ferret attached to his face or has his toupee slipped?

Bobby T - January 26th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

Fat Spanish Waiter is a classless twat

Steve - January 26th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

I love liverpool fans, they’ve finally got off their high horse about being top of the league because United are now, and Liverpool have hit the wall in terms of form. They go on about being far superior etc, then fail to beat us twice in a week, at home, when we have no Yakubu, Saha, Vaughan, Fellaini, Yobo, yet they have a full squad to choose from including undeniable talent. As an Evertonian, you can’t deny that Gerrard and Torres are World class and probably worth the monetary value of our entire team, but still they can’t beat our spirit and passion.

So, failure to beat us twice in a week, which they were certain they would do, they pull out their so called joker card of history, which may i remind you is, as the name suggests ‘History’.

Stop living in the past Liverpool, live in the here and now when you still can’t beat us TWICE in a week, AT ANFIELD, when we have injuries/suspensions. Great team, and great manager!!

Anonymous - January 26th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Everton fans may also remember losing at home to liverpool earlier this season so I don’t know why you’re so excited about a draw at anfield when you had 10 men behind the ball the whole game.

rudeboy - January 26th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

everton fans why do they exist
“we drew at anfield put the kettle on the seasons over for us wohoo”
singing the same old hook year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year

mark - January 27th, 2009 at 2:41 am

mickey b, you’ve just completely stepped over the line and shown yourself to be an utter gobshite. instead of just being reasonable and acting like an adult, you’ve come out with utter shit. fair enough you’ve drawn with us twice without your ‘4 best players’ as one of you put it, completely undermiming your best player who is cahill.just because you’ve drawn doesn’t mean your the best club in the world. and yes everton are a small club, but they have some good players with alot of spirit, and fight for their manager, so well done to them. and on wednesday we’ll see who the best side is and they will go through. as for all you other everton jokers who come on here simply to talk crap and critise liverpool because your jelous(lets face it all you would want to be second in the league now) grow up.

Blue Jim - January 27th, 2009 at 7:34 am

Mark – most of your comments are reasonable but then you go and show your arrogance with the ’small club’ jibe again. Only 3 clubs have won more championships and trophies than us. As you guys live on your history then surely you should inclorporate ours as well when making sweeping statements? And to you, if we are small, other clubs must be miniscule and inconsequential. Sounds pretty smug and arrogant to me. Typical southerner.

9torres - January 27th, 2009 at 8:58 am

Labby the Corinthian – “You have no class Waiter Boy ! now fuck off back to Spain, no hang on a minute – stay where you are – are suited running that shower of shit”

Very dignified response…

Tony - January 27th, 2009 at 9:14 am

Dearest Red Shites from John O’Groats to Lands End this article is from the Liverpool Daily Post and Echo (so you lot wont get to read it as its a local paper for us Scousers) its from one of your own a certain Mr Lawenson ………………………………………………………………RAFAEL BENITEZ expressed his disappointment that the opposition didn’t do enough to win game – well, at least now he knows how it feels.

It’s a similar frustration that most Liverpool fans have felt this season when they have seen their team struggle to yet another draw.

So it’s a bit rich Benitez criticising someone for not going for it, as it’s not as if it’s something he has done a regular basis this season, is it?

Seriously, what did he expect Everton to do? Stick Anichebe and Cahill in a 4-4-2 and go for it? Everton were always going to sit back and soak up Liverpool’s pressure because that’s always going to be their best chance of staying in the tie.

And, let’s face it, after the success other teams have had at Anfield in applying that tactic this season, why would you play any other way?

Stoke, West Ham, Hull, Fulham. All came away with points because they put the onus on Liverpool to go at the and find a way through.

And the fact is, Liverpool weren’t good enough to do it.

So it concerns me that Benitez takes it so badly when a team comes to primarily defend (although to be fair, I don’t actually think Everton were too negative overall and at least, like Hull, they gave themselves a lead to sit on).

But what Benitez has to get used to is sides playing that way against him. It will be that way for the rest of the season and it’s not going to change.

So what does have to change is the lack of cutting edge in trying to finish these teams off.

It’s no good letting yourself get frustrated because you have way more possession but then fail to make it count. Just like Everton on Sunday, teams who come away form Anfield without getting beaten will see it as an excellent result and offer no apologies.

jimmycarterwingwizard - January 27th, 2009 at 9:20 am

reasons to be red & proud
1 celebrate a 1-1 draw like you’ve won something.
2 sing ‘your gonna win fuck all’ when you’ve actually won fuck all for 14 yrs.
3 stand on ANFIELD RD = shout ‘united’ when your team is called what?
4 you dont care what the red shite say but sing about us all the time.
EFC = EMBARASSING FUCKING CUNTS.

As 4 these moans of Rafas quote ’small club’ did any one give a monkeys turd when someone said associated with the blue shite ‘the peoples club’. No not one but when someone says something amusingly funny about those bitterest of blues fuck all hell breaks loose.

As 4 the rafa chat for the record I cant stand him never ever liked him & there is a huge split of opinion regarding this.

ps liverpool 2 win well at the goodison shed!

Steve McMahon - January 27th, 2009 at 9:36 am

mickey b – January 26th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

Steve McMahon….. listen son what you dont understand you prick is that we are proud to bitter cos we hate everything your club stands for

Morning mickey b, seems like I rattled you’re cage a little, sorry about that lad, the truth sometimes hurt’s, and like I mentioned you have once again reiterated what I mentioned about you’re own club’s abilities or should I once again mention the lack of.
You’re enjoyment of football according to yourself is “LFC’s” downfall at any time, simply emphasises the lack of faith you have in your own clubs ability and ambition.

“i would keep us as the Peoples / Dignity Club”

Hiding behind the self proclaimed title of “the people’s club” is just a constant attempt at deflection from you’re footballing embarrassment which is better known as “Everton FC”, and where ye all of a sudden get the idea that you’re club is the “dignity club”, lad get a grip, you are talking the talk of a defeatest who knows that his club is nothing more than an also ran, year in year out, football is about success, the trophy cabinet, the League, the European cup, etc, etc. And yes we do have a history that we like to talk about, those that dont hate heraing about it, but also we have a present, something that you’re self proclaimed “peoples club” dosent have either, but you could get a “Dignity Trophy” and stick it in you’re bare trophy cabinet, something to show off if you like as ye have very little else to show off from the past or the present.

(proper scousers mind not like you)

And you are basing this comment on what exactly?

Keep the faith lad, you might achieve you’re dream and beat us at Goodison in the replay, ye owe us one from earlier in the season, remember.

redhed - January 27th, 2009 at 10:12 am

even tho i’ve followed pool since toshack was knockin em down for keegan to bang in ( and not being English ) I dont get how you ” brothers ” in liverpool hate one another?. the reds might be 2nd but the blues are 6th, that makes liverpool city the best premier league city in England. come on guys backing the mancs over your big bro? and yes liverpool are the bigger team, more $, more stars but Everton are no small club! I’m no fan of benny Tiz , his transfers,team selection and blind arrogance regarding tatics is killing the spirit of the team . I’d have moyes as a manager any day, what hes done with a quarter of benny Tizs’ options…. wish you guys well on wed. night and for the rest of the season, but theres better teams to slag off, like the chavs or manure!

kel - January 27th, 2009 at 11:45 am

Get the life Evertonians, no one asked u guys to pick up most yellow cards than xpected,Liverpool rule Merseyside as a whole,U think playing defensively will help u,note it cos blues are under pressure now, cos u wld have 2 come out and attack….

We see who the best is by feb. 4th, u suckers,look @ the classic pass from Torres and the exquisite trademark finish of S. Gerrard…
What a mess of a keeper, a howler from a fucking USA keeper,need 2 be sold.

Organ.

Blue Jim - January 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

Redhed – fair enough. But what you don’t understand is twats like ‘Steve McMahon’ are southerners who think by putting “lad” after every word believe they’re fooling real Scousers (i.e. Blues) that they’re from the area. Steve – you’re a cunt LAD.

Red not dead - January 27th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

Tony – January 27th, 2009 at 9:14 am

“Dearest Red Shites from John O’Groats to Lands End this article is from the Liverpool Daily Post and Echo (so you lot wont get to read it as its a local paper for us Scousers) its from one of your own a certain Mr Lawenson”

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk The internet allows you to read papers all over the world, for your information you don’t have to live locally to be a scouser and you don’t have to be born in the city to support the team

kelty - January 27th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

how can rafa accuse us of being too negative, when in the first game as soon as they scored he brought off both strikers and defended?

liverpool were at home and had the crowd behind them and even though it pains me to say it, they have gerrard who is the best player in the league by a country mile, so obviously they would have the better chances and posession.

we dug in and live to fight another day.

ps davey please don’t play castillo, he’s a donkey.

Steve McMahon - January 27th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

Blue Jim – January 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

Hello Blue Jim, a little upset are we, just for your info I was born and reared in Liverpool, lived here most my life, proud to be red. Going by your indication of Scouse, then the use of the word “C-nt” means you must be a manc at heart, but for some warped reason follow Neverton.

Relax sonny, have a kit kat. Ok.

The Rock of Anfield - January 27th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

Hey, Evertonian Loser (Al)

No Yakupoo, no Saha, no FArteta, no Fellaini, a 70% Anichebe, a midfielder playing up front, and a 17 and 18 year old on the pitch for the last 15 minutes, and you still couldn’t beat us, even with your strongest squad. None of them r any good, it’s ure choice who u play!

How many f**king advantages do you want? Perhaps we’ll give the fat spanish gobshite a 1-0 start next week. You might as well, cos were gonna beat u anyway!

18 titles? yeah, and you were still shitting in your nappy the last time it happened, which incidentally was only 3 years after we last won it. At least we are in for a chance every year. How often do u challenge for the title? NEVER!!!

Without Gerrard, you would be in sh!t street. Wth! Have you ever spent £20Mill? No! Torres, Keane, Riera, Babel, Alonso, Aurelio, Mascherano, Ngog
, Benayoun, El Zhar! Only 1 good player?

You Everton scum will say this, but how can u back it up?
When was the last time you won anything?

The Mighty Red (formaly Rock of Anfield) - January 27th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

Look at these pics of Moyes

1. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44370000/jpg/_44370268_moemoyes203.jpg

2. http://www.the-spine.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/everton2.jpg

Moyes’s job at Neverton pays soooo bad, he needs 2 get a second job. That one shows more class!

The Mighty Red (formaly Rock of Anfield) - January 27th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

Redhed – fair enough. But what you don’t understand is twats like ‘Steve McMahon’ are southerners who think by putting “lad” after every word believe they’re fooling real Scousers (i.e. Blues) that they’re from the area. Steve – you’re a cunt LAD. THATS OUT OF ORDER, LAD

Donavan Ried - January 27th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

Hi Steve McMahon, how’s things……….. Liverpool v.s. Everton The F.A. cup:…..Well that was more like it…… At least Rafa Fielded a better side this time….. Still I would have played Riera instead of Babel, but a least it was a more positive side that he put out…… Ok so we drew, The point is that I do not mind if we draw when we field a side like this and are playing to win than if we field a side that is not looking to lose……. I think we lack the trust and the ability to break through Everton’s defence, but on this occassion the blame for this can not lay at the feet of Rafa, but rather at the feet of his players. ….. For a team that past the ball as much as Liverpool (a full 30% more than any other team) it is amazing how often players make so many wayward passes,you would have thought with all that practice our passing would be crisp and on target… And our movement off the ball, or lack of it,especially in and around the box kills us…….. Rafa and coaches really need to work on this……… But well done Rafa It was a improvement. …….. One negitive. ……. No where does it say that Everton have to come here and play open attacking football. You have been a manager long enough to know how to go about breaking down a team that does this, and if you can’t do not use it as a excuse….

kermit - January 27th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

look the fucking mancs won 5-0 forget everton

Keiron - January 28th, 2009 at 12:06 am

“haha we are the dignity club as well as the peoples club.”

Yeah thats why Carra loves you so much after being a childhood supporter… you have never seen dignity, your shameless…. you even brought out a dvd to celebrate your ‘cup final’… a victory over us!!! are they that hard to come by that you need dvds to keep memories??

Blue and White Shite!!!

The City is OURS!!!

mark - January 28th, 2009 at 3:22 am

blue jim i’m not coming across as smug or arrogant, the simple fact is, when have everton ever bought a 20million pound player, yes you have good players with a lot of skill(arteta,cahill) but do you honestly think you have a world class player in your team? i don’t think so. whilst everton do punch above their weight they are never close to the top teams. everton being a small club isn’t asweeping comment it’s simply the truth and i don’t think you can deal with that. after all if you asked a person in a foreign country who was the biggest club in the world , i bet you any money they wouldn’t say everton.

redhed - January 28th, 2009 at 4:20 am

the manure thumped WBA for 5, if were not to be blown away we better get our shit together. benny stop airing the (dirty) laundery in public and do the job you’ve been paid a kings ransom for, and if you can’t, which looks increasingly more likely at every team / sub selection, then fuck off to milan.! ( but watch out, they are watching your mis-management with alarm ) and whats with kuyt? youve had an offer, for fs sake man off-load that headless chook and make a profit , sell agger now we dont need him for the remainder, we have big sam. sell bennyonion to someone, anyone please! and open your eyes man, play babbel in behind torres, would you play torres on the wing?, jesus h christ no wonder the guy has lost form ,and more importantly confidence. how many other players are you gonna destoy with your screwy tactics? i wouldn’t renew your contract even if we won anything / everything your to disruptive and have no feel for the english game. Liverpool could get any manager it wanted,… you remember that.

annonymous - January 28th, 2009 at 5:05 am

shut up readhead

Gooner - January 28th, 2009 at 5:29 am

Rafa is a Joke.
He’s had the best opportunity in years to win the league with the other top teams faltering at different stages, yet he’s not going to get close.
He’s just wary of the Everton threat

You’ll Never Win Anything

Steve McMahon - January 28th, 2009 at 9:55 am

Morning gents, Donavan, Rock etc,.
Yes it was more like it to a degree but from a fairly early stage is evident that we didnt need Masch on the field with neverton playing a 4 6 0 formation, so why wasnt Riera brought on earlier for Masch, put Riera on the left and push Babel up front or take off Kuyt and Masch and bring on Riera and Ngog.?
Anyway it didnt happen, and to be fair to neverton they played to their usual limited capabilities and we were just not sharp enough, not inventive enough and we seemed to have no real cutting edge. Gerrard did his usual thank god, Torres still seems a little off the pace but he is getting there.

With regards to our passing, we are a club built around the term ” pass & move” but curently we are only passing, not really moving with any conviction. How many times was the ball fizzed to Kuyt the other night only for him to either loose control. keep control with great difficulty or pass the ball back in the same direction it came from. Can someone pls tell me why we dont seem to be able to recieve the ball at pace, stop dead and create something instead of receiving the ball with our back to goal and continue to run towards our own goals or pass the ball back out to the midfield.

There are 2 ways of looking at our current plight,
1. we are playing muck, and we cant see any way out of it, we are going to win nothing.
or
2. we are going thru a bad spell but we are still in there with a big shout on 3 fronts and maybe others have yet to have their bad spell and when they do hopefully we can take full advantage.
So personally when we put all our complaints aside, we are only 3 points off the pace, playing RM in the CL and still in the FA cup, things are not really too bad when you look at our glass as been half full and not the other way around.

9torres - January 28th, 2009 at 10:18 am

Morning Steve McMahon et al,

From what i have seen recently there is definitely not quite right. I think it is more to do with our system becoming predictable and people knowing how to play us, coupled with some poor performances. I just pray to god that Aurelio isn’t pitted against Valencia tonitght or we could be in for a rough ride.

Having said that i think Wigan will play their own game tonight and not rely on just trying to stifle ours. Bruce doesn’t really know how to play another way and it looks like he will go for Mido and Zaki up top if they are both fit.

I was saying the same thing on Sunday regarding our substitutions, we needed more of a direct threat than Kuyt on the right hand side. Dare i say it but even Benayoun would have been more effective. Kuyt’s touch is just not precise enough for the intricacies of wing play. You just don’t see good wide players with a poor touch.

I think tonight we will hopefully see

Reina

Arbeloa Carragher Skrtel Aurelio

Kuyt Gerrard Mascherano Riera

Torres Keane

We need to get Keane and Torres playing more together if he is going to have some use within the squad and i think that will be the plan. Hopefully we will also see Babel, It’s time we stopped playing the waiting game and begin to ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!

9torres - January 28th, 2009 at 10:20 am

Sorry, couple of typo’s in that!

” I just pray to god that Aurelio isn’t pitted against Valencia tonitght or we could be in for a rough ride”

should read

“I just pray to god that DOSSENA isn’t pitted against Valencia instead of AURELIO or we could be in for a rough ride”

Apologies.

Steve McMahon - January 28th, 2009 at 11:18 am

Morning 9torres,

I just dont want to see another boring, sorry draw, I just wish we had the balls to go for it and play the folowing formation,

Reina

Arbeloa Carragher Aurelio

Babel Gerrard Alonso Reira

Keane Torres Kuyt

With regards to our recent display’s, for me, the lack of creativity / cutting edge type players are missing, we seem to pass the bal to death, we are so slow at attack sometimes that we allow the opposition to get fully set for our attack, we have very little elememt of surprise in our play and the 2 DFM just drive me mad as they just dont pass the half way line, compare this to manure and you will see not alone the midfielder’s attacking but also the CB, Vidic, etc up attacking and scoring.
Our lack of attacking ability, the instructions and restrictions put on the players by the manager that reduces our attacking threat, simple as that really, the sad part about it is that I feel if the players were allowed to attack freely we would see a completley different element to our game.
Anyway hopefully tonight we can do the business but unfortunately another draw wouldnt surprise me.

Prediction: hopefully 2 – 0.

redhed - January 28th, 2009 at 11:39 am

to “annonymous ” i realise that “shut up” is the extent of your knowlege on any subject, and look you put 2 words together!. get a life you numpty, this forum is for disscusion.

9torres - January 28th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

It should be a more open game so you would expect that to give more space to the creative players. Lets hope Bramble has one of his ’special’ games and we can get the confidence up for Sunday.

EvertonAl - January 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

Rock of analfield? you’re a fu cking numpty. At least a lot of the other reds on here have the balls to recognise that the onus of attack isn’t on a weakened away team, you prick! If you really want to know the cause of all the hostility between the two clubs look no further than your nearest mirror (be careful not to break it now, ugly nuts).

I can honestly stand here and say that when Grobbelar did his ‘wobbly legs’ routine in 84 that everyone in our fanatical Evertonian household was willing him to save the penalty, and were bouncing when Liverpool won. Fast forward 12 months and liverpool supporters were going mental when Whiteside scored in the Cup Final to prevent us doing the domestic double, a feat which had eluded your side at that time.

The animosity started when Everton became top dogs for a period in the mid 80s. Whenever Liverpool win a trophy, or a derby match, all the fucking balloons in our street are out with their smug grins, but after the 3-0 hiding two years ago you would have thought Al Qaeeda had set off a weapon of mass destruction. Our street was, surprise surprise, fucking empty. When AC milan beat you in 07 the flags were down even before the Liverpool players had left the fucking pitch. And the smugness of the cunts when they win something is astounding. You woud have thought the title race finished as Christmas listening to the gobshites. I can understand a poor loser. Unfortunately, my experience is that kopites are equally poor winners.

For the record, most Evertonians I know loathe Man U. But the utter bile and bitterness that comes from your lot makes you such an easy target to wind up. And as for Ruufas ‘defensive’ jibe? Is this the same Ruffa who bored us to fucking tears on the way to the CL in 05? yes it was, but the end justified the means, didn’ tit?

So now, Steve McMahon, perhaps you’ll have a better idea of where our glee comes from. It gives us a chance to get your smug supporters to fucking shut up for a while, or at least to laugh at the ridiculousness of the utter shite excuses they come out with. And as much as I appreciate your ‘glass half full’ outlook, because I agree with you, you would certainly have taken this position in August, by the time the end of March comes around, the mancs will be anything between 8-10 ahead of everyone.

Oh, and Rocky baby? I piss myself laughing at the irony that on Saturday, you’ll be praying Everton show the same resilience at Old Trafford as they did at Analfield. I’d pay good money to see you cheering a Cahill goal.

I am the Rock of Anfield - January 28th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

look mate, i’m sorry if i gave the wrong impressionn but here are some facts: I wasn’t there in 85!!! I wasn’t even born!
If i was, i’d be happy if you won! .

Rocky - January 28th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

Eveing McMahon, Redhead- Rock of Anfield here
It seems that over the last few days that these Nevertonians have been told lies about their scum of a club being strangely, good! I admit that Cahill and Farteta are good but the rest are pure waste of space. They think that drawing 1-1 with us means misery 4 us! Were still in the race 4 thr Prem & in the 1/4 finals of the Champions League, what have they got out of the game?

blue dave - January 28th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

hi everton arnt a small club there a massive club and if anyone knws anything about the game will knw that i think its abit silly tbh everton just aint got the money to compete with man u liverpool or cleshy if everton r a small clube soo are spurs n they aint coz we r alot bigger histrorly wise we forget this is a city of two gr8 clubs not one we should celebrat n repect this and not agrue over rubbish that aint trueat the end of the day benitz id bitter coz a team of liverpools soo called class cnt break us dwn everton fans should be proud of this coz the league game everton were fantastic n all over loiverpol 1st half should of maybe won the game so they aint got a leg to stand from everton r a gr8 club n aslong as i knw n every everton fan knws this who cares im 19 but i knw my history and aslong as the facts are there noone cn argue with them im proud of my football club this BIG CLUB WITH ALOT OF HISTORY CHEERS

Rocky - January 28th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

Spurs are a small club

Poor Spuds - January 28th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

correction rocky:

Spuds r a small useless club filled supported by retards and run by arsenal wannabes…

In short… SPUDS r SHITE!!!

Rocky - January 28th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

Didn’t mean that in a bad way!

Rocky - January 28th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

Everton Al!
What’s your problem?

EvertonAl - January 28th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

EvertonAl – January 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

Rock of anfield? you’re a legend. At the strt of all this I didn’t like u but now ure ok!
I can honestly stand here and say that when Grobbelar did his ‘wobbly legs’ routine in 84 that every Evertonian was willing him to save the penalty, and were bouncing when Liverpool won..

For the record, most Evertonians I know loathe Man U.

BANKSY - January 28th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

That was me Ally Boy!!!!!!

Rock of Anfiled is now the Mighty Red - January 28th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

I am know the mighty red

Steve McMahon - January 29th, 2009 at 9:12 am

Morning folk’s,
EvertonAl, point made and understood, and yes I will be cheering for ye at the weekend, you’re right on that account, with regards to the too and fro between the fans, personally I dont take it to heart, no matter what club the fans are from, all that’s done on this site is banter, no real mallice except for a few who can’t control their tongue’s even on a keyboard.
With regards to the “bitterness” both side’s can give details of where it all started and who did what, where and when.

Rock of Anfiled is now the Mighty Red, 9torres, Rocky, Donavan, etc,etc,

What happened last night, more madness, more negative muck, lack of finishing power, poor selection, what happened? as I didnt get to even see the highlight’s due to Kid’s been sick.

AJ - January 29th, 2009 at 9:46 am

Could’nt give two hoots about either – but for Everton, like most teams outside the boring top 4, or is it now 5, simply play 10 men behind the ball. No tactics, no passion, no desire – very boring & Preditctable. Hence why the league is so tight from top to bottom. Every club outside that top few are happy to try their luck at set plays (or throw in’s from Stoke) and then soak up the pressure.

Only really United with there billion dollar team manage to get any thing from a game now and thats normally a last minuet 1-0 :s

Last season the prem was quality now its plain boring!

So well done to Everton and the others who think defending for 90% of all games is satisfactory – If i was paying my cash to watch that, I would be gutted!

None league football is where its at – honest

jimmycarterwingwizard - January 29th, 2009 at 9:48 am

so everton al went mental when brucie did his wobbly legs! errm? interesting. as for the whiteside goal i recall that moment & yes depsite my young age 12/13 the wry smile i had that day was one of joy & relief knowing i didnt have to go to school & listen to those blue gloaters. yes everton where a gr8 side then & the rivalry between is was ace. but i can recall nastiness at both grounds even then. shit i can recall it going off in the bullens when houghton popped up with the winner in 88/89 season fa cup game. still makes me laugh now & yes to the blue shite who robbed my fave sunhat i will track u down! as for yesterday & r present state! rafa is the most overated manager in many a year. his somewhat ‘god-like’ status amongst fans i just cannot understand & i am not the only one. is outright stubborn attitude will be his & sadly r demise. a majority of r fans have kidded themselves to long. yes we have had some fantastic moments even under houllier who sadly went the same way r current man is going pigheaded & blinded by the fact that beyond 8/9 players r first team & squad is just not good enough to sustain a lenghty pursuit of a distance memory of winning the league. but hey we have won some fucking trophies since then. but sadly r gr8 club regarding what others think is in state of dismay from top 2 bottom. r present owners, r ex chairman selling us out to these halfwits i can never forgive u moores & parry what is his actual job?
so for the future rafa out for a start. one owner who now thats the question. make parry the teaboy & bring in a manager who plays the same 11 week week out christ these players r athletics. & when he buys players he gives them the opportunity to shine ie KEANE who despite some poor performances as never been given the chance to shine.
MOURINHO or O’NEIL anyone!

Coggin - January 29th, 2009 at 10:10 am

Steve McMahon & 9torres

If only he had of played your team suggestions we may well be a lot happier today.
I don’t how long I can keep being positive when we just seem to play the wrong players and wrong formations, why take off our best players, if it is to rest them for the Chelsea game why bother we have lost yet another 2 points and slowly slipping down the table. I suppose most of us thought we were lucky to be top at Christmas and in truth were just waiting for us to slip up but always hoping we wouldn’t. We can still win the league, fa cup, champion’s league or even all 3 but we will need to see a massive change in the teams performance or we could end up 4th with Villa in 3rd and that is not acceptable.

I still think Rafa is the right person to lead us but I reserve my right to change that if he continues to tinker, just play the best 11 and Attack.

9torres - January 29th, 2009 at 10:21 am

I don’t know what it is, maybe the squad is just not as strong as we thought it was, Babel is ineffective, Lucas i still rate but what was he playing at with that tackle?! If Babel is to play i think it should be right hand side or down the middle with Torres. I just can’t seem to place what is wrong at the moment.

Maybe it’s a combination of contract’s not being sorted, ownership being uncertain (especially for the long term), poor form of fringe players when we need them. I don’t think it’s the system as such, just the mentality. Maybe they are cracking under the pressure of winning the title.

MUFC - January 29th, 2009 at 11:19 am

9torres – January 29th, 2009 at 10:21 am HEY BUDDY HAVENT SEEN U IN A WHILE.NO SMART ASS COMMENTS ANYMORE HAY MATE I TOLD U WE WOULD BE TOP IN JANUARY ,LIKE WE ARE EVERY SEASON, TELL ME DID U REALLY BELIEVE U COULD WIN THE LEAGUE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 20 YEARS HAHAHAHAHA

9torres - January 29th, 2009 at 11:27 am

I’m pretty sure i’ve never seen you MUFC! yes you are top, congratulations, being top in January wins you…?

Course we can win the league! I think the turning point will come after Sunday, win, lose or more than likely DRAW, Hicks visit should put to bed some of the problems we have behind the scenes and allow us to get bak to the performances we saw at the start of the season.

If the roles were reversed and you were two points behind us having played a game more would you rule yourselves out of the title at this stage?

Steve McMahon - January 29th, 2009 at 11:50 am

MUFC – January 29th, 2009 at 11:19 am

“Here we go again break time at rehab, and MUFC has a couple of mins where no one is watching him, so he gets excited.”

Anyway.

There are a couple of things certain in life, taxe’s, death and nothing last’s forever, ye have been very successful over the past 2 decades, but like I said everything comes to an end no matter what, if not this year then poss next year, but even with 16 games to go and the way the league has gone all season, the only thing for certain is that nothing can be taken for granted. Put it like this, if we beat Chelski and ye lose to Neverton, then you might have a diff take on things, the sad part about all of this is that ye are not winning the title, we are giving it to ye.
Im not sure how old you are, but you might want to remember that ye had a gap of 26 years before ye won the lge.

Now go back into class, like a good little lad, and take your medication.

MUFC - January 29th, 2009 at 11:52 am

U RIGHT U HAVE NEVER SEEN ME JUST LIKE LIVERPOOL NEVER SAW UNITED GO PAST THEM AND JUST LIKE U WILL NEVER SEE US AGAIN(OH YES I FORGOT U STILL HAVE TO COME TO OLD TRAFFORD.THATS ONE GAME THAT WONT END IN A DRAW MATE HAHAHAHA)
BEING TOP IN JANUARY WINS U WHAT???

Lets think about it…..1)Chelsea,Liverpool,Aston Villa,Arsenal believe United have won the league already
2)Look at the Chelsea players faces,they won but were they happy
3)Liverpool just hear the fans on this site look at the players look at the gaffer .U know the battle is over mate
4)Arsenal & Aston Villa oh well 4th is good enough for them

SO WHAT HAVE WE ACHIEVED BY BEING TOP IN JANUARY HAHAHAHA
U KNOW IT & I KNOW IT WE HAVE DONE THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE MATE

redhed - January 29th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

the sad truth is bennys been found out!, like murinho before him, he only sees the team ( liverpool ) as a way of advancing his own agenda, which is to get the top job back home. he came to blighty thinking these numptys will love me with my zonal marking and rotation policies,and due to some good fortune ( take stevie out of the picture and it wouldn’tive happenned ) and fiecous pharocial support , hes got away with it . how many fans has he blinded (“in rafa we trust”) give me a break guys. plenty of managers can take over a team, and using the same players,turn it into a different team. rafa is afflicted with the european game plan, ” if they dont score we cant loose”!, that shit has never worked here . how many overseas players just cant cope with the speed of the game played in England?. the object of the game is to score more goals than your opponent ( ask fergus). this cycle of sad draws will continue while the man in charge is timid and lacks understanding of the English game and of what scoring ( not always winning) does for the fans . rafa rant over!

coggin - January 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

How many of the games that have ended in draws have we been the better team and should have won by more than 1 goal, most of them actually but we haven’t, some are down to our poor attacking options (Torres having been out of so many games and now in poor form doesn’t help) the others poor mistakes from some of the players (Lucas & Beneyeon to name 2) and Rafa. Maybe the problems between the owners, Rafa and parry haven’t helped, having no real money to buy world class player at the moment is also a problem. We all want to win the League (even Rafa) so lets hope he feels he can start playing the best team, if we are not to win the league this year it will not be the death of us, we have shown we are able to get to the summit we need to show we can stay there, for this to happen we need a few new players to help Gerrard (he can’t do it all by himself, he tried). If the press is right that one of the wealthy investors want to come in and start spending some serious cash then it has to be better than 2 broke yanks, maybe Rafa will then buy the quality he wishes he really could.
Rafa is right btw if they can’t score they can’t win but they do score that’s the problem

Sir Bill Shankly - January 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

More curtains would still get closed if they came anywhere near my garden!

simon - January 29th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

Everton the peoples club… thats just funny!
What’s Liverpool then?
What happened to ” dogs of war”.. silly logo, silly Evertonians made up?
Everton used to be massive ( 4th most succesful in England ), Proud ( non Bitter ) Friendly ( mixed support in derbys ) club..
The good old day’s hey..
Now! well it’s just sad how you wish a fellow city team, which represents your city by name, to do so badley..
Bitter is just sad! ..
How ironic your now no bigger of a club than say sunderland…
You cant call yourselfs ‘ Europe’s elite, Champion’s on even Challengers’ so yeh,, you stick to you ”people’s club” comments…
thats just so funny……..

simon - January 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

Liverpool….
We used to be the best, but havnt been for years.
get rid off Raffa some say! if that happened, then the board wouldnt want another arguementative man in control, so we’ll end up with a yes boss..
every new manager need’s 3 to 5 years to be succesfull, so where just delaying our structure to win the league.
Getting rid of Raffa would cause much cao’s than is needed.
We’d lose many players, including Torres, Reina, Alonso.. few just to name at least.
Plus we’d lose merchindise and respect, in spain and the rest of Europe.
Loosing Rafa, we’d find it hard to bring in Europes top players.
ok! i understand that we have alot of crap players like Lucus etc .. but if we win the League or Champion’s League this year, then you who called for his head would deny this and claim your love for the man you have always had..

Get rid of Raffa and replace him with who?
Keep Raffa and i’m sure we’ll win again….

Steve McMahon - January 29th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

Afternoon Coggin, unfortunately I dont really think our current plight could be put down to the yanks, off field issues, etc,etc, personally I put it down to 2 simple thing’s, the mindset linked with the formations of the manager and most of the players he has bought.
His attitude to the game is very negative, very slow and without real conviction.
e.g. when we played Arsenal at the Emirates, they went down to 10 men and only for the last 5 mins or so did he bring on an extra striker, how negative is that.? This is just one of many example’s, ok.
We play with at least 6 outfield players in our own half on the pitch nearly all of the time, 4 def and 2 dfm which gives us at best 4 players in an attacking position at any one time, yes we can create chances at times but we dont pile enough bodies forward to enable us to put teams away.
5 years now and still no real descent right winger, (Kuyt is just not good enough up front or on the wing, I dont care what anybody says) lets put it this way, if we put Kuyt up for sale in the morning for 6 mill, would Manure, Chelski or the Arsenholes even bother to make an offer, I dont think so? and by the way that goes for a number of our squad, Yossi, Lucas, etc, etc.
This system of 4 2 3 1, for me is a disaster in the EPL, by all acounts this system works in Europe, but it is a disaster without the right calibre or player in the EPL. Also for me, it’s not a very attractive style of play, boring most of the time to be honest, and it dosent really put the shits up any team, having just 1 up front. As I have mentioned before, for me the only way to play is 3 4 3 against so called lesser teams, keep the ball in their half and they are less likely to score, also it makes them less likely to advance in great numbers where as at the moment we invite teams to attack us. Of all the money we spent, net or otherwise, and I know we all hold degrees in hindsight, but I personally we would be better off today if we had just become a little more attack minded and less defensive.
Right now is not the right time to be making hasty decisions but I do feel that unless we finish stronger in the remainder of the season, then I might be abig mistake to offer Raffa a new improved contract as I just cant see him next season changing to a more attacking formation, I can still see the same frustration creeping thru with everybody about his tactics, team selection, etc, etc.
I am going to stop right now because I could go on & on & on & on, etc, etc.
For the rest of this season both LFC and Raffa, need our backing, but they also need to deliver.

9torres - January 29th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

Big difference between us and the teams doing well is that they are taking thir chances and we aren’t, like you say we need people who are going to take them, Keane has missed more sitters this year than i can remember in the history of the Premiership, the amount of times he has miss cued or completely missed the ball from 6-8 yards out is unreal. Be ruthless would be my advice. Cautious against Chelsea but not so much it stunts our creativity.

calvo - January 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

please excuse the wind-up merchant that is MUFC guys.and lets get back to what we do best and thats discuss issues on a level.Firstly no-one wins anything for being top in january (apart from silly bragging rights)and if anything the pressure is to maintain that position until the season ends.so far utd are top but it only takes a couple of dodgy results and its back to square one!l´pool and more importantly rafa have to get out of the cup mentality if they are to be successful this season in the lge by that i mean go out to win as opposed to going out with a not to lose mind set.i have said for a while that the 1 person who could hinder l´pools season is rafa.and until such a time im still convinced that that is the case.by the way im not saying that l´pool cant just that you put that squad in the hands of fergie,wenger,mourinho and even to hiddink and im pretty sure that l´pool would play without restraints and therefore go out onto the pitch BELIEVING that they are gonna win.

The Rock of Anfield - January 29th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

Afternoon lads, MUFC i’ve never seen u b4 but hello you see ok compared to some of the losers we get on here (EVERTON AL)

I am annoyed
You might win it this year if Rafa can’t get his tactics right
We haven’t won this year (2009) and you thrash Brom 5-0!

The Rock of Anfield - January 29th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

Afternoon lads, MUFC i’ve never seen u b4 but hello you see ok compared to some of the losers we get on here (EVERTON AL)

I am annoyed
You might win it this year if Rafa can’t get his tactics right
We haven’t won this year (2009) and you thrash Brom 5-0!
Not good
If Chelsea win it i wont be happy but if you win i will say………………

That it was pure luck. NO WAIT it’s cos rafa dosen’t no wat he’s doing!
I may not sound like a red but my blood is red and i cry LFC.

Rock of Anfield - January 29th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

Afternoon lads, MUFC i’ve never seen u b4 but hello you see ok compared to some of the losers we get on here (EVERTON AL)

I am annoyed
You might win it this year if Rafa can’t get his tactics right
We haven’t won this year (2009) and you thrash Brom 5-0!
Not good
If Chelsea win it i wont be happy but if you win i will say………………

That it was pure luck. NO WAIT it’s cos rafa dosen’t no wat he’s doing!
I may not sound like a red but my blood is red and i cry LFC.

Rock of Anfield - January 29th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

soz bout dat, me computers evil

Rock of Anfield - January 29th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

Who would you pick out of any player in the world to come to your club-LFC/EFC

Reina
Ramos Skrtel Carra Aurelio
Mascherano Gerrard Messi
Bojan Torres

redhed - January 30th, 2009 at 12:19 am

if were talking silly then

van der sar
ramos carra skrtel zhurkov
ronaldo alonso ribery
arshavin gerrad
torres

or…..?

Steve McMahon - January 30th, 2009 at 9:11 am

If we are talking fantasy,

Calisas (spelling?)

Ramos, Carragher, Vidic,

Ronaldo, Gerrard Xavi Ribery

Messi, Torres, Aguero

Bench:

Bojan, Fabregas, Rooney, Eto, Ronaldhino, Innesta, Reina, Lahm, Carvalliho (spelling?)

Coggin - January 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am

I’m more worried about who Rafa will play this weekend against Chelsea, just hope lucas and Benayoun don’t play from the start.

I would try

Reina,
Aurelio, Carragher, Skrtel, Arbeloa/Insua,
Babel, Mascherano, Alonso, Riera
Gerrard
Torres.

Subs Keane Kuyt Agger

Steve McMahon - January 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am

For me, we have to win this game, therefore I would like to see,

Reina

Arbeloa. Carragher, Skyrtel, Aurellio,

Babel, Gerrard, Alonso, Reira,

Torres, Ngog,

and if we go a goal down

Reina

Arbeloa. Carragher, Skyrtel, Aurellio

Gerrard, Alonso, Reira,

Babel, Torres, Ngog,

as I am sick to the teeth of watching Kuyt running everywhere and going nowhere.

Whatever team we put out, we better attack, its our best form of defence.

Coggin - January 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am

Steve

Of course it’s a mist win game and chelsea will not park a bus in front of goal so this game will suit us.

Not sure of Ngog in such an important game but he has looked good.

Steve McMahon - January 30th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

Its about time some of these players were tested, given a chance to prove themselves, if they cant get themselves up for a game like this, they never will, personally after watching Kuyt week in week out, I am just sick of his lack of ability, but I wish everybody had his attitude. From what I have seen of Ngog, he can hold the ball up better than Kuyt and I would also be more confident of him hitting the back of the net than Kuyt if he got a shooting chance. If kuyt plays we are reducing our shooting options, simple as that.

i luv man utd - January 30th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

1:1 draw with Chelski(as is the norm on Anfield nowadays) United 2:0 victory over shitty Everton.Start opening the champagne bottles mates.

Mr Comfort - January 30th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

I THINK BOBBY CHARLES SHOULD COME BACK & PLAY FOR LIVERPOOL AGAIN HE USE TO SCORE SOME AMAZING GOALS

redhed - January 30th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

wth the amount of abuse the gaffa has coped since frigan, i feel this next game is bigger than a euro cup for for him in regards to his tenure at liverpool, its that big. if he persists then surely his bosses will be forced to act, as thier “cash cow” will depreciate seriously affecting thier soon to be forced sale. imagine the revenue loss of not qualifying for the euro cup? its not personal rafa its just business, as well you understand better than most ,you treat your players like units. and to the doubters “in rafa we rust”

jimmycarterwingwizard - January 30th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

shit or bust for rafa. what team will he play who can pick it no one. thats how unreadable this guy is. i personally want him out the more i hear his name and this blinded praise fans have for him is unbelievable. his endless drivel & tactical approaches to games remains sterile. & for those rafa disciples heres the facts.
1. both cup finals won on penalties
2. a certain player keeps getting him out of the shit.
3. he keeps playing players regulary out of position.
4 he never plays his strongest team.
5. he continues to ignore players who are more likely to win games than the shite he keeps bringing on.
6. he ruins players careers.
7. he bores us all with the rant of “players cant play three games a week”.
8. he has wrote more notes than a playwright.
9. he waves his hands this way & that way when making his 75 min substitute, of which makes little sense to the player.
10. and finally he is packing are reserve side with players “with potential” from every corner of the world” most of i will bet my whole life will hardly make a dent in the future of my beloved team.

there the facts read them and weep.

mark - January 31st, 2009 at 6:27 am

jimmycarterwingwizard- while some of your points are valid i disagree on a few of them.
1- who cares that we won the cup finals on penalties if you got to choose between losing a final or winning it on penalties i’m pretty sure everyone would pick the 2nd option.
6- i personally think he’s made torres alot better, sure he was good in la liga but he missed alot of easy chances and scored hard chances, now he’s a goal machine. alonso was crap the last 2 seasons, but this season he’s been immense after benitez gave him a much needed kick up the arse.
8- so what he writes alot of notes he might have a not so good memeory so he writes down all the stuff he obsevres in the game.
9-how do you know that when he waves his hands his players don’t understand what he’s doing- they work with him almost everyday of the week they must know what he means, just because you don’t understand them doesn’t mean that his players won’t.
and finally number 10- while that is your opinion you never know what can happen in football and in a few years we could have the next ronaldo in our reserves then no-one will be knocking rafa.

Bit long i know but my personal view

mighty reds - January 31st, 2009 at 2:34 pm

mark, i still believe what jimmycarterwingwizard said. they are facts. we nearly lost those two cup finals if not for gerrard. we lost in athens cos of his strange team selection. maybe we should get another manager for the premiership and keep rafa for champions league only. hahahahaha

Rock of Anfield - January 31st, 2009 at 4:22 pm

The match Vs Chelsea is make or break for Rafa. I’d like to see this side
4-3-3
Reina
Arbeloa Carra Skrtel Aurelio
Alonso Gerrard Riera
Babel Torres Benayoun (he deserves to play after the goal Vs Wigan)

Want to see more of El Zhar
Subs: Cavaleri, Hyypia, Keane, El Zhar, Mascherano

Rock of Anfield - January 31st, 2009 at 4:26 pm

If Rafa the Gaffa goes i’d like these choices:

Frank Rjikaard (is that right?)
Jose Mourinho
Roberto Mancini (old Inter boss)
Zico (a hit or miss but could be good)
Bernad Shuster (Real’s league winning coach 4 2years b4 Ramos)

Rock of Anfield - January 31st, 2009 at 5:19 pm

100th Comment Woooooo!!!!!!!!

redhed - February 1st, 2009 at 6:53 am

the thought of beneathus signing another long term contract fills me with dread

MartellSte - February 1st, 2009 at 11:45 pm

To quote simple simon in an earlier post ‘Now! well it’s just sad how you wish a fellow city team, which represents your city by name, to do so badley..
Bitter is just sad! ..’
Yea it sure is and im proud to be a Scouser and an Evertonian and ppl throughout the land have bad enough things to say about scousers and our city but the team which represents my city by name has brought so much shame on the good name of my city and they still to this day do with their caveman like behaviour now thats what you call sad

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 am

Morning, Coggin, 9torres, Rock, red, etc,etc,

What do ye think about yesterday’s match, were we lucky, do ye think we deserved to win,?
Personally I think we were lucky to get the win, Lampard was sent off on the hour mark, yet we still had 2 DFM and only one up front until the 82nd minute, (rem Arsenal game), once again Raffa highlighted what I said last week, negative thought process.
On the flip side, nice to get a little revenge for Rob Styles penno last season, for Xavi’s sending off a couple of seasons ago when he slipped on the wet ground and went into Lampard and was sent off, also for the Robben theatrics with Reina a couple of seasons ago. Swinging roundabouts!
Good to see Torres back on the score sheet, Gerrard played well but could also of been sent off, have to give credit to Yossi who was great when he came on, but I wouldn’t be grtting carried away with the win, as I can still see our negative approach play been a big problem for the rest of the season.
Also Mike Riley is a joke of a referee, he is liable to do anything, its a wonder he didnt book Yossi for diving after been kicked by Boswinga.!

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 am

Morning all!

I think yesterday was excellent, not a massive improvement on the everton match but the difference was taking our chances. Like the last few draws the stats were the same, 70% posession, dominating for large periods, keeping the ball well. I think the returns of Arbeloa and Torres to fitness will be massive for the rest of the season. Alonso was great again as was Gerrard, Mascherano is finding his form. Kuyt’s touch is still god-awful but his work rate stopped their left side playing.

Any news on Keane? Apparently Benitez said he is staying as he has been told that Spurs will not swap Lennon for him, but have offered Bentley and/or Bale instead.

I think the best deal would be to sell him for £15m, get Quaresma in on loan and possibly used the £15m to buy him next season if he does well. I know Quaresma would be a gamble but i’d rather take that gamble than have Keane sat in the stands.

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 am

Who is going to buy Keane for 15 mill? Quaresma would be a gamble, but like you said, he would be better than a player sitting in the stand.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 am

Apparently that is what Spurs have offered, but Benitez doesn’t want to accept as it is a loss of £5.3m and also weakening his squad.

10.37 A further update from Sky Sports News on Robbie Keane who believe Real Madrid’s Argentine striker Javier Saviola has been in discussions with Spurs over a loan deal. However, if Tottenham’s move for Keane is sucessful then Saviola could make the switch to Anfield.

That’s the latest from sky sports.

Coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 am

Steve, 9Torres etc

I thought we were the better team but it looked to have 0-0 written all over it as neither team were making their presence known in the box though Liverpool were getting there. The sending off was not a sending off but luck favors the brave and Liverpool were the braver of the two, Man U are always getting pen’s so this was our bit of luck. Good to see Rafa play one of our best line ups and the result was a good one. If Chelsea get the red card overturned I just hope they give one to Bosingwa for his kick on Yossi back, Chelsea have said on their website “Bosingwa’s out-stretched leg pushed the Liverpool player over near the corner flag……” yeah out stretched my arse a blatant red card

So we are back in the chase again, bring it on
Oh and still no news on Keane but I can see him going but is Bentley the answer we need on the right?
So Everton on Wednesday and Portsmouth on Saturday, Everton is going to be a tough one but Portsmouth must be a 3 pointer they are not doing so well now Harry’s gone

Coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 am

So the Mail says http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1133844/ROBBIE-RETURNS-Spurs-Liverpool-agree-Keane-15m-deal-striker-travels-London-medical.html?ITO=1490

Robbie Keane is on his way back to Tottenham after Liverpool and Spurs agreed a £15million deal for the striker.
Sportsmail understands that the Republic of Ireland star is making his way to London – through the snow – to discuss personal terms and undergo a medical.
Sources close to the deal believe that the transfer is virtually done after Anfield officials accepted Tottenham’s £15m bid.

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am

I would take 15 mill + Giovanni De Santos, I cant understand how this lad has gone from Barcelona to Spuds reserves. Good player from what I saw of him in Spain.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 am

Yeah i’d agree with that one, can’t see Redknapp wanting to keep him either! Barca were reluctant to let him go so that must show the lads quality. Hope we don’t end up with Bentley, i would be suprised if we did considering how his attitude would clash considerably with Benitez’s team ethos. Not entirely sure on Gio’s position though, would it not be similar to Lucas or Babel?

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 11:24 am

Latest bid for Keane from Tottenham apparently stands at £18m

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Take it.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm

who do we replace him with tho?

Coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 pm

Steve/9Torres

I did reply to your comments earlier but they haven’t appeared yet?

Keane is on his way to Spurs for the 10m we have paid so far and another striker who plays in La Liga is on his way to Liverpool, so say Talk Sport can’t or won’t say who though.

Any ideas??

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm

For a start, someone Raffa will use, secondly, I would like to see Ngog, Nemeth, getting playing time alongside Torres, my own personal point of view is that Nemeth and Ngog are both stronger and quicker than Keane, and would be worth more playing time.
3rd, I think that it is too late now to get anyone of quality and value, unless Raffa already has his eye on somebody.
The only one possible prob with selling Keane to Spurs is when you look at who we play last game of the season, if things are tight right up until the last game, Keane comes back to Anfield, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he came back to bite us in the arse.
Personally for LFC’s sake, I hope Keane goes, one less thing to talk about in the papers, and as I have said before he is just not good enough for the system we play.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm

I agree Keane needs replacing, i think the most likely will be Saviola on loan from Madrid. If he can recapture his form then he could be a brilliant aquisition!

He would slot right in playing Keanes role but with pace and more skill place, also the ability to finish from almost anywhere in the final third.

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm

Coggin – February 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 pm

Morning Coggin,

God only know’s, I can only assume it’s not a big name or we would of heard about it.
If I hear of anything I will post back, ok.

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 pm

How would Raffa use Saviola, what formation?

Coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:46 pm

Last game at home needing the 3 points to win the league!!! Deja Vue
Lets hope it doesn’t come to that
I can’t see liverpool not having an ace up their sleeve, if Torres gets an injury then I don’t see Kuyt, Ngog or nemeth able to fill his shoes well enough to win the league

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm

Same way he would used Lennon i suppose, either in Kuyt’s or Gerrards positions.

Reina

Arbeloa Carr Skrtel Aurelio

Masch Gerrard

Kuyt Saviola Riera

Torres

??????????

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm

I cant see Raffa droping any of these, Masch, Alonso, Gerrard, Kuyt or Torres,

So where does Saviola fit into a 4 2 3 1 system, that’s all I am asking, and it’s the question that should of been asked before Keane arrived.

Reina

back 4

Alonso Masch

Kuyt Gerrard ?

Torres

Can Saviola play on the wing, do ye think he is big enough, strong enough to spear head Raffa’s formation (4 2 3 1) or will Raffa change the system?
The big problem is the negative element of this formation, means that no matter how many attacking players at the club we have, we can still only play one up front.

Going back to what I have mentioned before in other posts, 3 4 3

Reina

Arbolea Carra Skyrtel

Babel Gerrard Alonso Reira

Saviola Torres Ngog

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pm

I just can’t see him going 3-4-3, i don’t know another team in the league that starts a match that way, its fine when chasing a game but we don’t need to be that attack minded as we have more quality on the pitch than anyone bar united.

According to Setanta Keane is already in London. To be honest his car wasn’t at his house on my way to work this morning!

Coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 1:22 pm

Steve
I think Saviola plays mainly as a striker but that will not stop Rafa playing him on the wing if he wants to now will it!!
Also Liverpool have annouched that Keane is talking to Spurs at the moment so lets see what happens next.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm

Yep, just seen that on LFC.tv, it’s goin to be a mad scramble to find a replacement!

Who other than Saviola is an option?

A lot of sources are touting Keane going back for £15million, not sure how this is possible or logical as it would mean writing off £5m in just 6 months. I think £10million with THS writing off the £10million left for Liverpool to pay would be closer to the truth, especially with the limited funds we have.

Coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm

The Mail say’s
Robbie returns! Keane agrees personal terms and undergoes medical after Spurs and Liverpool settle on £15m deal
By Mark Alford

Robbie Keane is on his way back to Tottenham after agreeing personal terms with his former club.
Liverpool and Spurs last night agreed a £15million deal for the striker, who was undergoing a medical at White Hart Lane today.
Sources close to the deal believe that the transfer is virtually done after Anfield officials accepted Tottenham’s £15m bid.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 1:37 pm

Just been through it on talksport, seems Keane is defo on his way, there’s still this matter of a replacement though, can’t see us just not bothering.

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm

“I just can’t see him going 3-4-3, i don’t know another team in the league that starts a match that way, its fine when chasing a game ”

I know this, but all I am say is that this is something like what I would like to see, and with regards to us chasing games, he still dosent go 3 4 3 or anything like it, yesterday up until the 82dn minute we still only had one striker plus 2 DFM, playing against 10 men, in a game that we really needed to win to at least stay in touch with manure.

“but we don’t need to be that attack minded as we have more quality on the pitch than anyone bar united.”

Yes we may have more quality than most teams when it comes to structured players, but not in an attacking sense, and that’s our problem, which once again goes back to our manager and the mentality in which he wants the game played, defend at all costs, where as manure attack at all costs. This my friend will be our downfall come may, when we look back at the likes of the West Ham, Fulham, Wigan, West Brom, 10 man Arsenal, stoke twice, etc etc, games we could of got 3 points out of if we were a little more attack minded.

I can understand a teams reluctance to go 3 4 3 to a degree, but when we are a goal down or are playing a game we need to win, what manager in the EPL would only leave 1 striker up front while still keeping 2 DFM. Ans only 1, RAFFA!

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pm

Haha, i do get you’re point, but i think that although it is a defensive minded set-up we also create more chances than pretty much any other club, we have just missed a finisher with Torres being out. Benitez views Riera and Gerrard as very attacking with Kuyt being the “headless chicken” who does the running. so it splits from a 4-2-3-1 to a 4-1-5 when attacking. The starting positions allow us to go from formation to formation very quickly. I do like the formation and think it would be reaping its rewards if we had someone like SWP instead of Kuyt on the right, that way we would have more of an attacking threat with SWP’s pace and control.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm

Talksport seem pretty certain there is a replacement lined up for Keane, but will only say it’s a household name playing in La Liga… Henry anyone?

Coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm

Henry did say that he would love to play for liverpool and that would be a good signing so yeah good call on that one.

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm

Now there’s a name, Henry, if only.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 pm

Just a shame he has suddenly found his form at Barca, i couldn’t see them letting him go, trying to think of the household names in La Liga that:

a) we could afford.
b) will add something we don’t already have.
c) wouldn’t require lengthy negotiations.
d) is a household name.
e) would fit into Benitez’s system.

There just aren’t that may players that fit the bill!

Any ideas??

jo - February 2nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm

i think that if THIERRY HENRY comes to liverpool then its sure that any teams that will be playing against us will suffer!!coz HENRY AND NINO are 2 big striker!!especially henry who have the ability to take out freekicks!!but therefore i think that henry is unreachable coz he’ill be too costly and is playing very well at barça!!QUARESMA would have been a very good player for us but i think benitez will not go for him!!BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN STILL WIN THE LEAGUE!!but we must play the 4-4-2 with babel playing on the right and kuyt upfront with torres

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm

Well for me he will be a medium to large, strong player, with a good work ethic, that can lead the line in a 4 2 3 1 system, and I am struggling to come with an affordable household name.

Simply I cant even hazzard a guess at the moment.

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm

Just a thought, but with Keane gone, what about the idea of Babel now as another striker with Raffa bringing in a so called household winger, not a striker?
What about that lad we were linked with a couple of weeks ago, Latifa I think was his name.

9torres - February 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm

Not Queen Latifa surely?? I think it’s Lafita, not sure! yes a winger would be another possibility if Babel is being given a chance! there are so many if’s and with the deadline being shifted then i think we may have to wait a few days to find out anything conclusive.

Any idea’s on whether loan moves have to be completed by the same deadline?

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm

Im not sure, but I think that a loan move is poss if the player is not playing in the EPL, e.g. from La liga.
I think one of the prem lge clubs did this just before xmas,

coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm

what about david villa?? how much would he cost

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm

Sorry, my comment was in relation to loan deals outside the transfer window, as my last post was as clear as mustard.

Steve McMahon - February 2nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm

coggin – February 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm

what about david villa?? how much would he cost

About twice or three times the price of Torres, depending on who’s buying, Man city then prob 100 to 150 mill.

coggin - February 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm

ok so not him then!!!! I can’t see the yanks dipping into their pockets they couldn’t even afford two seats next to each other. Bless them

mark - February 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 am

steve mcmahon, we won didn’t we? there’s no need to say it was a negative display, and we were lucky. the 1st torres goal was pure class, i suggest you watch the replay again and see his run to get to the front and head past cech. then tell me we were lucky, even though chelsea only had 1 shot on target, never looked like winning, and we had numerous half chances only this time we had torres to bang them in.

9torres - February 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 am

Morning all,

Cheers Steve McMahon, been trying to find out when the deadline was for loan signings, at least we now have a chance to get someone in, we only have Torres as an actual striker so i can’t see us not loaning anyone!

9torres - February 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 am

Ok now we could be in the shit…

Transfer deadline rules:

Premier League and Scottish Premier League clubs now have until 1700 GMT on Monday, 2 February to sign players after the deadline was extended for the convenience of clubs as the previous date fell on a Sunday.

English Football League and Blue Square Premier (Conference National) clubs have the same deadline for full transfers, but not for loans. Clubs in the English non-league pyramid below the Blue Square Premier are not bound by the transfer window system.

After 1700 GMT on Monday, Premier League and SPL clubs cannot sign any players, on loan or full transfers, until the transfer window ahead of the 2009/10 season opens on 1 July.

Clubs in the Football League can sign players on loan outside of the transfer windows, following a seven-day period after the transfer window closes.

Outside of the transfer windows, any club may still sign players on an emergency basis (such as if they had no goalkeepers available) with the permission of their competition’s governing body, ie the Premier League.

Players who are out of contract and do not have a club, can be signed outside of the transfer window if they are unattached free agents when the window closes.

Coggin - February 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 am

9torres – February 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 am

Ok now we could be in the shit…

What do you mean? we are in with a great chance to win all or either 3 major competitions and we have just sold a top striker to replace him with opps nobody and our other stiker has been a little bit prone to injuries this season….
Oh I see what you mean!!!!

So we will see some more of Babel or Ngog up front.

Rafa was heard saying “I have a cunning plan my lord”

YNWA

9torres - February 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 am

Maybe they are ready to step up to the plate, we have Babel Torres and N’Gog that can play down the middle i suppose, maybe Saviola is too similar to Pacheco? Or maybe we just didn’t have time.

Steve McMahon - February 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 am

mark – February 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 am

steve mcmahon, we won didn’t we?

Morning lads, Mark, yes we won, but like I mentioned even with 10 men we still only played with 1 striker for 23 / 24 mins. We scored in the 89th minute, and again in injury time, now dont tell me that was exactly what Raffa had planned?
No, his first objective even when they were down to 10 men, was not to loose, he did the exact same against Arsenal, and we got what we deserved there, a draw.
Put it this way, how many other top teams in the EPL and europe would of only left 1 striker up front until the last 7/8 mins of real time, with the oposition reduced to 10 men from the hour mark in a game we had to win?
Look it’s great we won, but pls dont tell me that was good management on Raffa’s behalf, we could of just as easily left Anfield on Sunday with a point due to negative tactics, and I unfortunately can assure you that we will do the exact same again as Raffa didn’t learn from the Arsenal game where we only came away witha a point and I doubt he learned anything from Sunday either.

“even though chelsea only had 1 shot on target, never looked like winning,”

Correct and you’re comment above even highlights what I have said above, they didn’t even threaten our goal yet we still had 4 def and 2 dfm up until the 83 /83rd min. Now how attack minded is that?

9torres - February 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 am

The thing is a striker is not a striker with Benitez. Depending where the ball is Kuyt becomes a striker at times, same with Babel same with Gerrard. If you look at the way we play with people on form and the passes going where they should be we are unstoppable. The system allows us to go from 4-2-3-1 to 4-2-4, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 very very quickly! if we can take 6 out of 6 from chelsea and 3 out of 3 from united then in my eyes the system works.

Steve McMahon - February 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 am

Coggin, 9torres, morning,

Well he is gone at last, saga over, until the last day of the season!!!!!!
We will see then. We need to give the players that we have more of a look in, use them or loose them senario,
If I was asked to pick a team using this 4 2 3 1 system for the remainder of the season then,

The boring / negative and Raffa.s first team line up would be as follows

Reina

Arbolea Carrra Skyrtel Aurellio

Alonso Masch

Kuyt Gerrard Reira

Torres

Even if we played a 4 4 2 set up, as I know that not many people like the 3 4 3 system?

Reina

Arbolea Carra Skyrtel Aurellio

Babel Gerrard Alonso Reira

Ngog / Nemeth Torres

Now from listening to the radio Raffa is getting pelters for letting Keane go, but for me, and for once Raffa is right, as he was not strong enough, tall enough, fast enough or put bluntly not much better than Kuyt in front of goal.

As far as I am concerned Keane going hasn’t weakened out team at all due to the system we play, simple as that. We have other players named above that are just as good and even better in my eyes as Keane, we just need to give them a chance.

9torres - February 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 am

Agree completely Steve, maybe these players will get a chance to prove their worth now, let’s hope they can live up to it!

Gota be a striker in the summer though if they don’t cut it!

Steve McMahon - February 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 am

The system allows us to go from 4-2-3-1 to 4-2-4, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 very very quickly! if we can take 6 out of 6 from chelsea and 3 out of 3 from united then in my eyes the system works.

The system might work against the top teams because the top teams come out and attack you, but the system died a terrible death against, West Ham, Fulham, Hull, West Brom, Stoke x 2, etc, the problem is the lack of a constant attacking set up which would raise the tempo of our game and would familarise the players with an attacking mentality for games against lesser teams, which is where we fall down because when a team comes and puts 11 men behind the ball we are still left with the same few attackminded players trying to get past 10 men where as when we play the top teams they are only trying to get past 4 to 5 players.
When we leave 4 def + 2 dfm on the pitch against a team with 10 men behind the ball, would you call that good management?

Steve McMahon - February 3rd, 2009 at 9:53 am

Gota be a striker in the summer though if they don’t cut it!

Could’nt agree more, along with 1 or 2 full backs and a CAM, which would release Gerrard and free him up to roam about.

9torres - February 3rd, 2009 at 9:59 am

I admit we do need to be much more ruthless when playing agaisnt the lesser clubs, don’t forget though Arsenal Chelsea and United have come unstuck, drawn or just edged past those types of teams too,

Maybe removing Keane from the equation will give Babel more confidence as it shows Rafa has faith in him.

CF and 1/2 FB’s definitely,not sure if we need another CMF unless it’s to replace Lucas but i can’t see that happening on our budget, depends who we are owned by at that time!

I thought the Benitez contract would have been resolved yesterday…

Steve McMahon - February 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 am

Central attacking midfielder, take Gerrard out and we dont have one with anything near the ability of Gerrard, we have plenty of DFM and CM, but only 1 CAM.

Lucas
Masch
Alonso
Plesis,
Kuyt (for me as he is not a winger or a striker with a first touch, feet like his)

With regards to Raffa’s contract, personally I am getting edgey about giving him a new contract, unless the following is written into his contract,

a) You must win the league
b) You must play an attacking formation,
c) You must play players in their position
d) You must not rest key players during the league until the match is well and truly won.
e) When you play lesser teams you will be sacked if you play 4 def and 2 dfm, no excuses.
f) You must not make any more bad buys or we will have to say to you, goodby.
g) You must sell Lucas, Yossi, Dossena, and all the other surplus waste at the club, we are not a hostel for people with crooked feet.
h) You must give good reserve team players a better run of games in the league so that they can be tested, use them or loose them senario.
i) Do not air LFC’s affairs in public, we sort them out in house.
j) This contract can be amended when and if required by the board.

Pls sign here: …………………………………

9torres - February 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm

I think Keane moving on is positive though. At the moment it is looking like N’Gog is more of a prospect than Babel in terms of goal scoring, his finishing needs refining but the ideas are there, instead of Babels shoot on sight policy. I hope we get to see more of N’Gog, especially tomorrow night. If those two can do well in the rest of the season then we may not need another striker next year!

EFC rocks so fuck off - May 29th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

LIVERPOOL ARE FUCKS GAY GOBSHITES AND HAVE SHIT PLAYERS

THEY SAY OUR CLUBS SMALL WELL THEY SAY GOOD THINGS IN LITTLE PARCELS DIAMONDS ARE SMALL AND WORTH THOUSANDS BUT FAT THINGS LIKE ASTRIODS JUST GET IN THE BLOODY WAY AND WORTH NOTHING .

SO LIVERPOOL CAN EITHER GET ON WITH US OR FUCK OFF AS I AM CONCERNED.THERE PILES OF SHIT ANYWAY

MOST LIVERPOOL FANS ARE SHITES.BUT NOT ALL OF THEM ONLY MOST OF THEM MY MATE ISN`T A SHITE HE RESPECTS ME FOR WHO I SUPPORT AND I REPECT HIM SO WHATEVER.

RAFFA SUCK MY BALLS COZ WE ARE AT WEMBLY!!!!.

(sorry for bad language but some lfc fans are piles of shit.).

2-0 - July 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

STFU evertonians are simply jelous because we have better players such as; Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Jamie Carragher! We won they did not we beat Manchester United 4-1! Rafael Benitez knows what hes on about hmm lets see 1 Uefa Champions League trophy 1 Super Cup Only 1 loss throughout the last Premier league season. 1 Uefa Champions League final (2 in total for the evertonians who can’t count) 1 Carling cup final and 1 FA cup. + I think Moe Sislack from the simpsons MUST have been based on the scottish wanker and tosser David Moyes! XD